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Water rates in Metro Cebu are going up again. The Metropolitan Cebu Water District has approved a 12% increase — the second this year — along with changes to its payment and disconnection policies.

We're joined live by MCWD spokesperson Minerva Gerodias to explain what this means for consumers.

💬 How will the increase affect your household?
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01:00Today, we take a closer look at the stories shaping our communities and our future, going past the surface and into the context, the impact, and the conversations that matter.
01:12In every episode, we move past what's trending and examine what the headlines truly mean for everyday Filipinos.
01:19I'm Mildred Galarpe.
01:22And I'm DJ Moises.
01:24Today in Beyond the Headlines, water rates in Metro Cebu are on the rise once again.
01:31The Metropolitan Cebu Water District has enforced or will enforce a 12% increase effective October 1, its second adjustment this year, along with new rules on payments and disconnections.
01:44What's driving the hike and how will it affect consumers?
01:49We speak with MCWD spokesperson Minerva Herodias to break down the charges and what they mean for households across Cebu.
01:59Good afternoon, Minerva.
02:03Are you online now?
02:05Good afternoon, Minerva.
02:07fantasies, Minerva.
02:08Balik na sa ato ang atong kalihukan sa pag-update sa katawan, aning increase.
02:15This is the second rate increase this year.
02:19Palagan niang yetung sa March?
02:20Actually, billy niya siya, billy niya siya second. Wait ha, ako i-check.
02:28Kung mahinomdom ka, ang MCWD ni pahigayon o mga water consultation ni atong November 2022, moto siya ang amuang pagpangayo or pag-apply o water rates adjustment dito sa luwa.
02:50And part of the requirements para maka-apply ka water rates adjustment is public hearing within our service area.
03:01So, we had that public hearings in November and then ang amung original target for our rates adjustment was July 1, 2023.
03:12But for some reasons, na-delay ang approval sa amuang i-applyan nga water rates adjustment, so mauna ni siya karun. Karun pa siya yun na-approve.
03:23The one that we implemented in March was the provisional water rates adjustment.
03:30So, ni-grant ang luwa nga, we can temporarily implement an adjustment while they are reviewing our application for rates adjustment.
03:46So, kanisya karun mo, nag-iun ni siya ang final water rates adjustment. Dili na ni siya provisional.
03:53Minerva, this is a DJ Daini, no?
03:55I'm curious lang ko, when you had your consultation, as you mentioned ba, what were the feedback that you generated from the public?
04:07In general, there were no adverse reactions to the plan na increase.
04:16But they were just asking if we will have more water supply in the future because we cannot deny that.
04:25There are still areas in Metro Cebu na bilipat 24 hours ang water supply.
04:30So, generally, during the public hearing, ang ipangayos sa mga tao is more water supply.
04:38They did not really have negative reaction or adverse reaction to the plan increase.
04:46Kuan lang, that's good because they did not really have a major pushback.
04:52But allow me to ask lang because I've also heard that there are around 30% to 35% na kanang water losses,
05:04which is, correct me if I'm wrong, higher than the standard, which is 20%.
05:09Was this raised?
05:10And if ever it wasn't, at least how is MCWD addressing this one?
05:15I think what you meant, sir, is the non-revenue water.
05:19Yes.
05:20Yes.
05:21Namiya na nga percentage karo, around 32% of non-revenue water.
05:28First, ang non-revenue water is not charged to the consumers.
05:34So, kamira ang nag-absorb.
05:37Unlike other utilities, I don't know kung sa ilang charging, but we call it systems loss.
05:43Wala na siya gicharge sa mga consumers.
05:45Our consumers only pay for the water that they consume.
05:49Meaning, kung nung sa'y reading sa ilang water meter, maura na ang ilang bayan.
05:54All water nga na wasted, na ginawa because of pilferage or leak,
06:03nga not, before their water meter, wala na siya gicharge sa mga consumer.
06:09And what they're doing now is,
06:11naghanming ang mga pipe rehabilitation projects,
06:15kay most of our losses,
06:18tungod siya sa mga leak,
06:20kay na ay mga dilapidated na mga pipelines.
06:23We also have kanang leak nga,
06:26no, not leak, losses nga caused by kanaganing
06:30pilferage, kanang mga watong tubig.
06:36And then, kanasan atong gigamit sa firefighting,
06:39wala man na siya gibayran pagkakaroon.
06:41So, mapinsa na siya diha sa 32% nga non-revenue water.
06:46Minervs, ang kaning 12%,
06:502022 pa ni siya nga ipangayo, di ba?
06:55And then, I think,
06:56In any siya,
06:582022 ang amang public hearing,
07:00and then, wala gich na nagrant until now.
07:02Yes.
07:03So, ang nagrant is the provisional pagmarch.
07:10Okay.
07:11Wala gilain.
07:13Ang antoged nga water rates adjustment,
07:17nga dili provisional,
07:18was 10 years ago.
07:19That was in 2015.
07:21Okay.
07:21Ang mga water districts may apply for water rates adjustment every 5 years.
07:27Pwede na may mag-adjust every 5 years.
07:30But, 5 years from 2015 is 2020.
07:33Pandemic man to siya.
07:34So, wala.
07:34So, ang MCWD opted na to apply for a rates adjustment
07:42in consideration sa lisod nga sitwasyon.
07:46Daghang nawadan o trabaho,
07:47daghang mga nanirangan negosyo,
07:49yun na na.
07:50So, we continue to absorb
07:52the high cost in operation,
07:56in administration.
07:57So, that's why in 2022,
08:00katong mura nagninormal taong balik,
08:02so we applied na for water rates adjustment.
08:05So, we were hoping na ma-implemento siya in 2023,
08:09but sadly, wala dahon siya na-approve sa luwa.
08:14Katong 2015 na ngayon,
08:16oh, 20,
08:17wala man taong,
08:17dapat 2015,
08:19pwede na taong man ngayon,
08:20but wala man taong.
08:20Yes, nata increase 2015.
08:22Nata increase 2015.
08:22That was the last.
08:23Yes.
08:24So, dapat pag 2020,
08:25but we had the pandemic,
08:27so that's why pag-2022.
08:29Yes.
08:30The reason, I think,
08:31mangyayog increase
08:32is because there is a need
08:34to fund infrastructure
08:35and maintain financial stability.
08:38At the same time,
08:39reduce the unpaid bills
08:41for those kanang,
08:43kanang inyong bagong
08:44disconnection policy.
08:46But kanang pag-fund
08:47o mga infrastructure projects,
08:50unsay atong,
08:51sa kaning 12%,
08:52asa ni siya nga
08:53mga infra projects
08:54na itong i-dapat minors.
08:57Actually,
08:58when we applied
08:59for our rates adjustment,
09:01appeal dito sa i-present,
09:02kung anong sanay
09:03ang mga bagong
09:03mga projects.
09:05Appeal ani
09:05ang mga sourcing,
09:08ganang mga
09:08mga new sources.
09:11And then,
09:11appeal sa ani,
09:12na-appeal na na dito
09:13sa i-consider
09:15nga,
09:15why we are entitled
09:18or
09:19we are,
09:19we are,
09:21we can ask for
09:22a rates adjustment
09:23because
09:24nagka namang tag
09:25new sources
09:26like
09:26we have
09:27two new
09:28desalination plants,
09:29we have
09:30the Luseraan
09:31bulk water supply.
09:32So,
09:33maun nga siya,
09:33i-appeal na na siya dito,
09:34appeal na na siya
09:35sa i-consider
09:36ang nga
09:36rates adjustment.
09:38Appeal sa diha
09:39ang itong mga,
09:40well,
09:41kanang itong mga
09:42infrastructure projects like mga rehabilitation of old pipes, expansion projects,
09:48naaman tayo mga projects sa mountain barangays nga for decades.
09:53Wala gini sila yung MCWD water. They rely on springs, river.
09:59Karun, adun na tayo mga na-commission ng mga water service connections dito sa mga mountain barangays in Cebu City.
10:08So, mauna na siya ang mga infrastructure projects nga among bi-implement even without the approval pa of the water rates adjustment.
10:20Kaya nakaplano na mango ito siya and then 2023, we were expecting nga nami adjustment in 2023.
10:28So, naasad may mga kanang, e mo sa nang i-present ito sa luwa mga plano, mga expansion, mga infrastructure projects nga among bi-plano in the next years,
10:45like five years from our application sa water rates.
10:49Minervis, na ba kay data ka rin to tell us na from 2022, pila ang atong na-generate na water compared to today with the new water sources?
11:04You mean, pilay, in 2022, as far as I can remember, our total production was only 170,000 cubic meters per day.
11:17Karo na abot naman taong 320,000 cubic meters per day.
11:22So, it's good actually because we are tapping to additional sources and it can also be seen on the increase in terms of volume that you just highlighted.
11:35Pero, given the increase in population ba, and given also the development that's happening in Cebu,
11:45are we, can we say nga, nanagintakaroon sa correct level or are we still catching up?
11:53We are still catching up.
11:55To be honest, kaya as of covered sa MCWD, sa total demand sa Metro Cebu is only about, I think, 32% of the total demand.
12:08Other water demand, deserve na siya by private suppliers.
12:15Ang urban, they have their own water system.
12:18So, yeah, as much as possible, gusto galing nga mo expand sa among ang coverage, coverage na mo sa among ang service.
12:28That's why, nag-continue ang MCWD to develop or find new sources and also to expand our pipeline system.
12:39Muna siya ni Abotanig Mountain Barangayes.
12:41In Cebu City, we have 80 barangayes and I think we only were able, we are only able to serve about 30.
12:51Kay naradiri sa ubos niya areas.
12:53Karun lang may naka-expand dito sa mga bugkirang bahin sa Cebu City because of our Luzaran bulk water supply project.
13:03Minerva, when you say you only serve 32% of the total demand, that's for Metro Cebu, not just Cebu City, right?
13:12Yes, for Metro Cebu, not just Cebu City.
13:14Pila pa niya.
13:14For 8-terms areas.
13:16Yeah, like are we, bugk fair gear, ani niya, pila?
13:19Kay, I think ang total demand karun sa whole Metro Cebu is 600,000 cubic meters per day.
13:26And then, our 600,000, 700,000 cubic meters per day, our total production is around 300,000 to 320,000 cubic meters per day.
13:36That's more or less than 50%.
13:39But we remember that we also have losses and non-revenue water.
13:44So, muna siya nga, less than 50% pag-ihod ang naserve sa MCWD in terms of total demand within Metro Cebu.
13:52Kunsa yung mga current initiatives sa MCWD to reduce the non-revenue water?
13:59Yes, mauto siyang nami mga gihimo nga, wait ha.
14:06First is ka nang di pang rehab na mo ang mga dilapidated pipes.
14:10Then, asan may itawag o ka nang district metering system nga, ang mga areas, amunggi, area-area ba?
14:18O nyan, nami ka nang, nami, bulk water, dako nga meter ba?
14:25Bulk nga meter nga, morid.
14:27Kung pila ang, nisu diha nga volume, and then if ang digawas, pwede mo na ma-compare,
14:35naman may dedicated nga department for non-revenue water, nga pwede na siya diha nga,
14:41from makita nga, in anikadaghan ang nisu nga water, anika area,
14:46pero ang water sales or ang volume nga na baligya is much lesser than the volume nga nisu.
14:53Then, madetermine na siya nga na ay leak ba ka ha within the system,
14:58so, amun na siyang makitaan, amung ma-address.
15:02Remember, we are serving eight LGUs.
15:05Gika na siyang Kompostela, Leluan, Konsolasyon, Mandawe.
15:12We also have the island of Mactan, and then Cebu City, Talisay City.
15:17In ana kataas ang amung pipeline system nga, it's not easy to detect mga dag ko nga leak.
15:23So, muna siya nga, kinahang lang siya i-muraganig i-area-area para makita na to.
15:29Dali na to ma-isolate ang area nga na ay problema.
15:32So, those are among our initiatives to reduce the non-revenue water.
15:37And of course, kanak siya, kanak rehabilitation good or renewal of pipelines.
15:44Remember, MCWD is already 50 years old, so naanag yung mga pipes nga, dilapidated.
15:51Ito ang na-mention ni mo earlier, Bo, which is about kanang expansion, no?
15:58To address the growing demand of Cebuke, as of this time, we're still less than 50%.
16:03My question actually is more focused on the following barangays, no?
16:08Like Busay, Babag, and then I think you mentioned also Lusaran.
16:11What's keeping us from closing these gaps eventually?
16:18Unsan may challenge, Giday, na to, ang anong lisod mag-indis sila maabdan sa tubig?
16:23Ang Busay, sir, na-address na lang na to.
16:26Ang Busay, Lahog, Lusaran, Pulang Pato, Agsungot, Binalioguba, Budlaan.
16:33And these are located sa kanang bukit kaayaw.
16:37The challenge before is elevated kaayaw siya.
16:40Most of our sources, naa siya sa diri sa ubos.
16:44So, it's a challenge to bring the pressure ganit pa doon sa taas.
16:50Karun, nga na-ana ang Lusaran, nagigikan siya sa taas, so pwede na na to kapiton kini nga mga areas nga na sa elevated nga mga portions.
17:00Ang ilang location ba? Ang elevation nila, liso siya sa pasakaan o tubig.
17:05So, muna siya, we are thankful nga we have this source from a mountain barangay nga pwede na to mo i-spread it to sa mountain sa mga elevated nga area sa Cebu City.
17:17So, we are saying actually nga na-address na ni na to ang mga locations or partly pa lang?
17:23Partly, yes.
17:23Okay.
17:24Partly, yes.
17:24So, mga around when man ni siya potentially ma-close ang gap?
17:31What do you mean?
17:32Walang timeline lang na to. Estimated timeline lang na to.
17:36Nga kaning mga elevated barang guys.
17:38As of now, I cannot tell you nga, in 10 years we can cover 100% of the demand.
17:46But, nag-target me nga at least mo abot me on 60% in 10 years.
17:5160% of the total demand sa Metro Cebu.
17:56Minervs, ang MCWD is kind of dependent on surface water, right?
18:02We have our bulk water supply in Luzeran.
18:05And also, Nanatay Duhaka Dissal.
18:07I remember there were 8 Dissal.
18:10What happened to the 6 others?
18:12Asa na sila nga dapit?
18:13Ah, okay.
18:15Ang amung yun, there were other projects nga, disalination projects, no?
18:21Most of our disalination na proposal sa Lapu-Lapu City.
18:25Ang Dukha, there is isa sa Cebu City and one in Mandawe, okay na, na-operate na.
18:33Ang one in Cordova, ang amung-alang problema pa dito is ang amung pipelines.
18:40Yung wala niyemang guna siya ang situation before.
18:42Ang Lapu-Lapu is dependent sa water supply from, ah, sa Mainland Cebu.
18:50Amung gipaagi sa bridge ang supply nila and then distributed in Lapu-Lapu City.
18:56So, ang amung pipes, ana, is itawag na ito ang telescopic ang forma.
19:01Dako, gikandiri, and then nagkagamay para sa pressure ba?
19:05Kahit kung dako tanan all throughout, mo hinay man maayaw ang pressure sa tumoy.
19:10Now, ang problema na ito karoon is,
19:12ang supply nga available, kaming 20,000 cubic liters sa Vivant, diha sa Cordova,
19:18dili siya pwede nga isood sa existing na mga pipelines.
19:22So, we still have, ah, nga magkuan, magpipeling ni from Lapu-Lapu to Cordova
19:30para madistribute ang supply from that desalination plant in Cordova.
19:36Ah, we had, um, several pipeling projects in the past,
19:42but sadly, ah, wala sila nakakuhaog permit from the Lapu-Lapu City government.
19:48Ang wala nakakuhaog permit ang desal supplier, ang Vivant?
19:53No, ang Vivant is ready.
19:55Ang supply sa Vivant is ready.
19:57Naman na siya sa Cordova.
19:58Yes.
19:58Pero ang pipelines nga amung ilay para madistribute ang water in Cordova and in Lapu-Lapu City,
20:05ah, we need new pipelines nga dagko nga makadawat sa volume from Vivant.
20:11However, ah, katong amung mga na-award na unta nga mga, ah, projects,
20:16ang contractors were not able to, ah, secure mga necessary LGU permits.
20:23So, wala na padayon ang projects.
20:26Ang permit ano eh, ang katong pipe laying?
20:29Pip laying, yes.
20:30So, ah, padayon?
20:34Ah, ah, ang dilimanta, kuhan mang yun na, magkuhaog mang yun na ang pipelines
20:39pipelines o bago nga supply. Considering nga ang purma sa Lapolapo City lagi nga pipes,
20:46pula siya telescopic. Gamay ang tumuyo niya. Ang Cordoba is tumuyo na kain na siya, gamay na kain na siya dihaong pipes.
20:53Mubuto na kung yung mong ipugos, pasulod ang supply from Vivan.
20:58Yes.
20:59Sa Lisan.
21:00Ay sorry. What about kaning sa mga islands like Kilotongan or like...
21:07Wala minig. No, we don't have supply there.
21:10Yeah, pero un sa'yo ka ng plan na to at least to address that because we can see Mangud nga
21:17these islands are already developing also.
21:22As of now sir, to be honest, wala pa may ka ng concrete yun nga plan liha sa malay mga ulanggo, mga hilotongan
21:32because we would need a source within the area, Mangud, para makasupply nila.
21:37Okay, it's very costly to bring water to the islands from like sa Malapolapo, ang pipele'ing anak, pwerte ka gasto.
21:47And then we have to consider also pa ng panaganing pila yung mong gastuon at at same time pila yung mong hang...
21:54Ma-return.
21:56Ma-return.
21:57It's always like that. Aroong di ka manira, no?
22:00Pero pagkakaroon, wala pa manggutay available source within the islands.
22:06But ang island yun sa mga islands sa Lapolapo City is part of our service area or franchise area.
22:16And then, kanangkuan lang, and then gi-rule out na po na to ang possibility of desalination na lang for these islands.
22:23I know it's costly, no? But I'm just asking the question.
22:26Honestly, MCWD cannot afford to operate its own desalination plan.
22:32So, if na ay private nga muhimu o desalination plant dito,
22:38and siguro ipa ibaligya sa MCWD, then maybe we can do that.
22:43However, considering gagmay mo ni siya ng islands,
22:47mag-tan-answer na sa mga desalination plant,
22:51kaning mga private owners aning desalination plants kung ang ilang return of investment.
22:57Kaya it's very costly.
22:58Biliragid siya ang paghimo sa planta ang mahal.
23:02Ang daily niyang operation is very costly tungod sa kurinti.
23:08Kurinti man ang nagpadaga niya, yes.
23:10Ang source ko rinti sa isla, samot.
23:13Plus, ang island, gamay mo na siya, no?
23:16So, ato ka, o desal,
23:18kuan kayo siya, kanang taas kayo siya sa salinity.
23:20So, it's a long process.
23:21Dili ka kaingon aning uman nga sources,
23:24nga brackish water lang.
23:25So, medyo parat-parat lang,
23:27gamay lang ang imuhang process
23:30para mahimu siyang potable water.
23:32Dito sa mga isla,
23:33katunag yun ang tag-as gyo doog ka ng salt level ba?
23:37So, I think this is also a conversation siguro, no?
23:41Not just with MCWD,
23:42but also with the local government.
23:44The LGU.
23:45Okay, we can't help it.
23:46There are really people there.
23:48Kuan said, Minervs.
23:49What happened to the six,
23:51the other desal proposals?
23:53Did it push through?
23:54Or, anong sa'y status nila?
23:56Not yet.
23:57Gi put on hold sa namo.
23:59First of all,
24:01ka nang kato,
24:03na hold man sa nang amo ang
24:05gi project nga income.
24:08You know, mahal ba ya ang water from desalination plants, no?
24:12So, gi put on hold sa namo because wala man na approve ang among increase sa among target nga date.
24:21Okay?
24:22Second, wala man na infrastructure nga maka-accommodate sa water supply.
24:27So, it's not wise nga among ipadayun.
24:30Unya, hindi mahuma na ang planta,
24:32yung taon ang kuan,
24:33ang tag-iya.
24:34Ang tag-iya, wala siya'y kabaligyaan.
24:37We are the only sad nga daku nga water distributor in Metro Cebu.
24:42So, ang iyong investment, matanggong sad.
24:44Pinaganito atong mambaling nga desal, ang atong generation dito?
24:5010,000.
24:52Ang mandawi nga, upaw man ni, no?
24:55Ang upaw sa mandawi, 10,000 sad.
24:5810,000 sad.
24:59Okay.
25:00Kanang bare months naman tas,
25:02magdagandag hantag, uwan-uwan, tubig-tubig.
25:04But later on, in summer na sad na to, balik na sad na sa atong problem.
25:09Ang MCWD ni consider ba yun o putting up a dam to, you know, capture water?
25:19Where it's, where it's abundant so that we can use it when, during the lean months?
25:26Kung may yung kagdam, ang source na, first of all, is...
25:30Surface.
25:31Surface.
25:32Ang surface, ang first source na ma-affected during summer.
25:37So, ang pinaka-ideal for summer is the desal.
25:42Kay, ang water sa dagat, dilig yun na siya mukubas, kun summer.
25:48Pariharag yun na siya.
25:49So, consistent ang iyong supply kung gitan siya sa desalination plant.
25:52Kaning itong mga desalination plant sa mambaling, sa upaw,
25:56pwede man niya na ito ma-expand up to 20,000 cubic meters.
26:00For now, 10 lang sa ang ilanggi-supply to MCWD.
26:04So, Moni, itong backup during the lean months,
26:07nga muhihinay po na itong production sa surface water?
26:11Yes, oo.
26:12Katong question na ako earlier ba?
26:14Because, kung ano man ito na nga,
26:16we intend to cover 60% of the demand in 10 years.
26:20Just a clarification lang ba?
26:22Because, ang challenges that I see is katong elevated o katong mga islands.
26:27Pero, what about ang kanang naas sa mainland?
26:30We're good na ginby the supply.
26:33So, katong di elevated barangay, di po sila island barangay.
26:37Kanang naagid sa Metro Cebu lang yun.
26:39We're good in terms of the supply.
26:42Yes, that's why ang MCWD ni enter into an agreement
26:47with kaning duha ka desalination plants
26:50na naagid sa kanang, within Metro Cebu,
26:54like Upaw and Mambaling,
26:56para ni siya makahatag ni o more supply to the growing demand
27:03within kaning ubos nga mga areas,
27:05especially di rin sa Cebu City nga,
27:07naghan ka ayong mga na naghan ba ang kaning mga businesses,
27:14mga condominiums, yun na anak.
27:16So, that's why they sued me, Ana,
27:18ng agreement or agreement of contract with these two private suppliers.
27:26In Lapu-Lapu City, we intended
27:31ma-self-sufficient gani ang island,
27:34nga dili naming mag-supply from mainland Cebu to Lapu-Lapu City.
27:38So, that's why we initially naking-negotiate with Vivant
27:44para sa ilang supply.
27:45So, Motul, like I said a while ago, na-naunta ang supply,
27:50but because of the mga issues sa ito ang pipeline,
27:56ma-auto siya nga, wala pa na ito mag-distribute ka ron.
27:59But the plant is ready, their supply is ready sa kaning Cordoba.
28:04Pero, unsang sa'y timeline na ito,
28:08kaya ang what is keeping the supply is ang katumang pipes.
28:13So, unsang may timeline na ito for the pipes to be in place para ma-supply.
28:18Para ang mainland di na mag-supply sa Lapu-Lapu.
28:22We are in close coordination with the LGU sa Lapu-Lapu City.
28:29Sa Cordoba side, wala kayo yung issue ang Cordoba.
28:35Ang katawag yung Lapu-Lapu kay vocal,
28:38I think it was in the newspaper nga,
28:49ka na iyahanggi pa hold ang digging,
28:52ang ka nang pag...
28:54Hala mang guntang mulungan ba?
28:56At nasa sila eh?
28:57Nakasabot sa admis sa Lapu-Lapu City nga side.
29:00First is concerning niya sa traffic.
29:03Second is ma-affected ang mga bago nga,
29:07bago nilang ang mga karsada.
29:09So, we are in close coordination with them
29:12para mapadayo nagyod ang kuwan,
29:15ang kaning pipe-laying project.
29:18I think naagani may meeting this week
29:22with the LGU sa Lapu-Lapu City
29:24concerning sa aning pipe-laying project sa MCWD.
29:28Kaya concerning Mansad sila nga,
29:30anong mahatag na saan ang supplying available.
29:33My next question actually sounds
29:35ka nang far-fetched, no?
29:37Pero at the end of the day, Murag,
29:40the problems also that we are having this time
29:43could have been solved, Mansad put,
29:45many years ago.
29:46So, that's why I'm also asking this.
29:48Kaya karun mang gud, Murag,
29:50we've been talking about climate change,
29:52unpredictable weather patterns,
29:54which could affect ka nang water sources.
29:57Not just in the Philippines, but also worldwide.
30:00So, how is, at least na lang, no?
30:02How is MCWD ka nang looking far ahead also
30:07to make sure nga ma-address na po ni sila
30:10proactively?
30:13Ang MCWD, sir, part nang ginay siya sa among mission,
30:17ang kanaisang protection sa environment.
30:21Aside from, aside from, kanang climate change, no?
30:25Ang global problem ni siya.
30:26Correct.
30:27Ang, we are also protecting our underground water sources.
30:31That's why, active na sa kaayaw ang MCWD
30:35when it comes to kaniganing proper disludging
30:40of septic tank waste, household waste.
30:43Mm-hmm.
30:44Yes.
30:45That's why we have our own STPs,
30:49septic treatment plant in Cordova,
30:51and we also have one in Cebu City.
30:53Kay, ah, moragili kaayaw na siya mahibawaan sa mga tao, no?
30:58Yes.
30:59Pero ang active water, around 40%, I think 40, 30% of MCWD's water
31:07is sourced underground.
31:09Mm-hmm.
31:10So, if, imong i, kun imong tanahon,
31:13most of our households,
31:15kakaraan, especially ang karaan,
31:17ah, have open, open bottom nga septic tank.
31:21Yeah, bottom bottom.
31:22So, ang ilahang waste ni padong na siya sa ilaw,
31:25that's why contaminated ang atong, ah,
31:28ang atong underground water sources na contaminate na.
31:31Mm-hmm.
31:32So, ang MCWD is, ah, doing its best nga,
31:37mapasabot sa mga tao,
31:39and then, ah, we also operate our own, ah, septic treatment plants
31:44para maalikaya na nato ang paghugaw-hugaw sa itong mga water sources sa,
31:50sa, sa, ah, aquifer.
31:54Kay, ah, in fact, naami mga a few wells nga,
31:58ah, dili na siya pwede ma-operate ka taas na kaayaw old, ah, contamination.
32:03Second, ah, we also encourage ka ning drinking from the top
32:08or you bring your own, ah, ka ng tumblers.
32:12Mm-hmm.
32:13Kay, ah, para siya, kanimang good si gamit o bottled water
32:18kusa ni siya sa mga maka-dilibyan na siya ma-decompose ang mga bottled water.
32:24So, we also, we are also, ah, ah, in coordination with the Cebu City Government, ah, kabaw-manta aning direction ni Mayor Archival, di ba?
32:34Nga, hi-encourage ka nang, ka nang mag-dala o tumbler ang mga, mga tao, di ba?
32:39Mm-hmm.
32:40And in the future, we will have our, ah, public, kanang drinking fountains
32:46para at to maka-refill ang mga tao nga na ay kao galing yung tumbler
32:50para di linata magsigig labay ang, ah, bottled water.
32:54And at the same time, maka-save sa sila, ah, in terms of, kanang cost sa water.
32:59Mm-hmm.
33:00Mm-hmm.
33:01Okay.
33:02Miner, napakaya question.
33:03Miner's last question nina ko.
33:04Kanang, with the 12% increase, what are we looking forward sa MCWD ng, ah, service?
33:13With the 12% nga increase, then we can, ah, have, of course, ang amuang revenue pa
33:22nung mangyunasad siya sa infrastructure projects.
33:24So, we will have more, ah, pipe-laying projects.
33:28We will find, ah, more sources para mo, mu-kuan mo, daghan ang ato ang, ah, supply
33:36para ma-addressan ni nato ang kaning mga areas, especially kaning mga, ah, elevated
33:42and kanang end of the system, galing, end of the kanang pipelines ng mga,
33:48kinay na ang inahang pressure.
33:49So, we will have more water supply in the future and we'll have new pipes, ah, lesser nga, ah, leaks.
33:59We expect nga ma-lesen na to ang mga leakun ma, ah, ah, ma-implement na na to ang ato ang mga
34:06pipe renewal and pipe rehabilitation, ah, programs.
34:10So, anan na na to liha isource ang ang atong funds for that from the revenue that we get from the 12% increase.
34:19Okay. Thank you, Kaayo Minerva, sa imong panahon nga imong gipasabot ang,
34:24imong gipasabot ang atong mga audience regarding sa challenges at the same time sa mga
34:31projects na, ah, ah, on the pipeline karoon sa MCWD. Thank you, Kaayo Minerva.
34:37Thank you. Thank you, Kaayo sa Panahon, Sunstar, Miss Milred, and Sir, ah, ah, sorry,
34:44DJ. Thank you, thank you. And May Hapon. May Hapon. So, thank you, Kaayo ni Minerva, nga napasabot.
34:53Correct. Ah, ah, challenge man ang atong water source.
34:56Samot na ginilagiinig summer. I remember sa katong summer sa unang, ah, malukop tagpangita,
35:02kay magsigiman o ugubosad ang water sources, kanang, sakto to. I think in our own little ways,
35:08how we can, ah, conserve water, is kanang yung, dagang paagi DJ, simple lang.
35:15Number one gin sa household, pagpa-nutbrush. Di taman nutbrush nga, ana lang tasa tapwater niya,
35:20magsigig agas ang tapwater. Magamit yung tagbaso para makasave tas sa tubig. Diba?
35:25Kung na ay mga nakita na ito nga nag-leak itong faucets, fix it right away.
35:30Kay, ano gong ba sinig, the next time nga kanang wak na tayo tubig,
35:34nag-imagine nilang tasos ka, ano gong ako pa ang takong gisave ito nga tulo sa tubig? Ano na?
35:39So, the other thing also, although kanang, the MCWO is yet to address, no, katong mga non-revenue water,
35:48but at least it's already clear from our viewers nga, whatever was lost there is not recovered
35:54by the price increase that they are paying.
35:56Yes. Lahit gito siya.
35:57Correct.
35:58Ang katong, like for example, kanang tubig, atong gamitin sa suno, wala man na siya'y bayad.
36:02Correct. Oo.
36:03So, dinit, kanang...
36:04So, it's not passed to the consumers.
36:05It's not passed.
36:06Ila-absorbed gina siya sa MCWO.
36:08Kay, kinahanglan man siya, for public man siya.
36:11Correct. Awesome.
36:12Ang ato lang sa mga katawan, nag-inventaryo last ang City Hall sa mga...
36:17Sige nga, ana, kanang-anak kuaan ang tubig?
36:19Sige nga, Ana, Ned?
36:21Ha?
36:22No, no.
36:23Kanabang, naasadap rin sa Dan.
36:26Hydrants, kanang fire hydrants.
36:28Ang fire hydrants, sa una, naadyat nakabutang.
36:31Karoon, nagsigig ang mga balay-balay, nagsigig,
36:34na naman sud sa balay.
36:36So, wala na hikit-e.
36:38Wala na hikit-e sa Kuan.
36:40Wala na hikit-e sa Kanang City Hall.
36:42So, naibauan nila nga.
36:43Kinang lang ito.
36:44Kay, kato siya.
36:46And that's supposed to be a safety requirement.
36:48Yes.
36:49That it should have been here.
36:50So, ikaw balay, ni-intrude di ay ka sa public space.
36:54Talking of public space.
36:56Suway, Guglakao, Gikandere, sa Eskina, Pederlosario,
37:00all the way down to Kera, kanang sa Metro.
37:03Makita, yud ni mga, kinahang lang yud ka, Og.
37:07Sidewalk.
37:08And, karoon lang now that we have,
37:10we are on this conversation.
37:11Sayang, I forgot to ask Minerva about it.
37:15But, katubi taong mag-encourage naman tag-tumblers.
37:18Which is fine inside the City Hall.
37:21But, what if ang drinking fountain is outside the City Hall?
37:25Mga tanda ko, how potable it is.
37:27Kay, namang gudiya ang perception.
37:29That's why people would still patronize drinking water.
37:32Because they think, dili mainom ang MC.
37:35Actually, mo na siya.
37:38Kung ang imong pipe, wala lang kay Lake.
37:41Mas limpio pa ang MCWD kaysa bottled water.
37:44That's a good one.
37:46Because, gefilter na siya ang good minerals na nga tang-tang man.
37:49Ang MCWD na panasya ay chlorination nga system.
37:53So, next time, atong pangutan on si Minerva.
37:56Okay, I think more people will drink from the top.
37:59If assured sila nga it's drinkable.
38:02Yes.
38:03Kay, namang gud na to ang mga pipes na to asama ni Agi.
38:06Naman sa itong mga kanal-kanal.
38:08Huwata ka-report nga.
38:10Gihigitan lang na to o gumas.
38:12So, actually, makasood din ang kagaw dito.
38:16Kay, open book ka.
38:17Open book ka.
38:18That's why people are not also willing to drink from the top.
38:20So, kung para ganahan naging kag-safe,
38:22eh, maragin ang pabukalan yung tubig.
38:24Pinaragin yung magastuan na.
38:26Like, karoon pila man ang usaka galon.
38:28Kanang dako nga galon nga water nga.
38:30Atong ginainom.
38:31Nadubli man actually.
38:32I don't know.
38:33Can say, nag-suk-suk anas atong mga utok.
38:35Nadubli atong gasto.
38:36Kaya atong water from MCW,
38:38para ligo na ginahugas.
38:40Pero, inom di.
38:41Atong ginahugas niya.
38:42It's becoming a norm.
38:43Every household, you will see it.
38:45Nanagit siya.
38:46Nanagit siya yung mga water dispensers.
38:48And if not,
38:49even for the city ordinance that I knew,
38:51nga restaurants are obliged
38:54to provide drinking water,
38:57di na kung mo-order ka ng bottled water.
38:59Because in the past, it also became a norm.
39:01Nga morang di ka mo inom sa baso.
39:04Mano kong kamagayang imuti yan.
39:07Correct.
39:08Kay, kanabitaw.
39:09Tinood man gano'n.
39:10Imaga, 50 years old na.
39:11There was one time nga na,
39:13naku,
39:14nabunggid na siya nga.
39:15Nibunggid ang MCW,
39:16nga nung taas man ang ilahang.
39:18There's a pipe nga naku nga nag-leak niya.
39:21Nahibauan na lang nila later on nga.
39:23Dagan na kayong usik na water for so many years.
39:26So, kanak siya.
39:28Aging na ang atong pipes.
39:29Napagina sa ilam sa mga dandan,
39:31di li din makitan.
39:32So, mauna siya.
39:35Anyway,
39:36gamay na lang itong uras.
39:37Pero before tamo,
39:39layat,
39:40before may manamilit ni DJ.
39:41Ano ito sa anong hisgutan gamay?
39:43Pag-quit ni congressman,
39:45ako Bicol representative,
39:47Saldeko,
39:48sa congress.
39:49Unsan yung pasabutan ni.
39:51Or before tamo go,
39:52Ana.
39:53Actually,
39:54katong nakastorya man ta about marginalized,
39:56nga party list.
39:57Kanimurag,
39:58looks like this is an example of a party list that ang,
40:02ang nakuhaan is not marginalized.
40:05Mokomment lang ko, Ana.
40:06And then sige,
40:07let's go to the topic.
40:10Pero I agree.
40:11There really is a need to review the purpose and the effectiveness of party list members.
40:20The reason,
40:21sige, before we go into that,
40:23when we look at his profile,
40:25his visibility,
40:27his influence,
40:28and even now his wealth,
40:30it does not fit to the party list na...
40:33Marginalized sector.
40:35Yes.
40:36Kanala mo,
40:37comment lang ko, Ana.
40:38Pag-ingon maguni mo,
40:39ako Bicol party list is like,
40:40wow, party list.
40:41Sige.
40:42Let's go.
40:43Diba dapat ang party list mo represent sa katong mga marginalized,
40:47fisher folks,
40:48farmers.
40:49Those who do not have as much access as the wealthy and influential ones.
40:54But you know,
40:55I really find it,
40:56I mean,
40:57stupid.
40:58Sorry for the word.
40:59Ako nami-mind din yung pag-inginimog ako,
41:01party list nakuha.
41:02No, no.
41:03For a party list,
41:04for example,
41:05a group of farmers,
41:06unso may capacity nila
41:08to launch a nationwide campaign.
41:12And especially if they are competing with personalities like Zalde ko.
41:17Almost bottomless ang pocket.
41:20Yes.
41:21So,
41:22Mareg,
41:23it's defeating the purpose.
41:24And I think Zalde ko is not the only prominent, influential, and wealthy person.
41:28Wealthy person.
41:29Daman.
41:30Tingog party list.
41:31Unsan man ang tingog?
41:32Ang nagdaan na asawa ni Martin Romualdez.
41:34Martin Romualdez.
41:35Si Yela.
41:36Unsan man sila.
41:37Unsan nga sector,
41:38or unsan nga marginalized ang ilang girepresent.
41:41Kaya nabitaw ba?
41:43There's a need of review.
41:44Kanang-kanang mga nadaog sa party list.
41:46Unsan yung ilang girepresent.
41:47And especially now,
41:49nga na na tayong mga more reports of anomalies ba?
41:55Maybe they can also tie that with
41:58how many are actually involved
42:00that won through the party list seat.
42:04And kumusta ang ilang wealth?
42:06Karoon.
42:07It's true.
42:08That's a good question to ask.
42:09Unsan man sa'yo na buhatan nga mga party list representatives
42:12sa sectors nga ilang girepresent.
42:14Correct.
42:15Diba?
42:16Tanaw na ito.
42:17Pilaman kabuk ang nang dagan nga party list.
42:19Ang pinasa itong mga party list
42:20na nagrepresent yun o marginal sectors
42:22pero huwag yun ka daog.
42:24And then,
42:25ang usahay po malimtan po sa itong mga voters
42:28na they are there supposedly for legislation.
42:31Dili dalan.
42:33Dili flyover.
42:34Dili tulay.
42:35Dili.
42:36Dili tambal.
42:38Dili tambal.
42:39Kaya sa kailang measure of success na
42:41active man ni among congressman
42:43kinagpabuhat ng tulay.
42:44Kaya pila kadaan ang napabutang.
42:45Waka kaya ba o pilasad ka.
42:46O, but that's not supposed to be their main work.
42:49Dili na trabaho sa congressman.
42:50Ang trabaho sa congressman o senator
42:52is to ensure nga na proper na ito
42:55o distribute ang wealth.
42:57Kung wealth man ganing na,
42:58o utang na ito.
43:00Ngagibayran pa na sa anak ni Kenneth po.
43:03Hmm.
43:04So, kanya lang.
43:05It's good for the viewers to be
43:07more discerning
43:08how they measure success of a congressman
43:11and the party list that they represent.
43:13Kaya kung tulay ni,
43:14then that's not a measure of success.
43:16Ang isa na itong subtoon.
43:18Kaya kaning corruption,
43:19mufollow man sa niya.
43:20Kaya tungod na po din na ito.
43:22Kaya muli niya na ito.
43:24Kaya mga itag-kwartas congressman,
43:25tapos congressman,
43:26di na siya bureau of treasury.
43:28Supposedly.
43:29Wala po na siya,
43:30wala po na siya kwarta
43:31na ipanghatag sa inyo
43:32para mapalit
43:34o whatever.
43:36Ang trabaho sa congressman
43:37is pagpasar o mga balaud
43:39na matunay ang atong adlaw-adlaw
43:41na kalihukan.
43:42There are specific government agencies
43:44na responsibly sa education,
43:46sa sports,
43:47sa public works,
43:49sa health.
43:50Dili ang congressman,
43:51ana.
43:52Kung muli niya manganing ta
43:53at tutas hospital
43:54di ta sabay sa congressman.
43:56Okay.
43:57That's also part of
43:59the system that enables corruption.
44:01It's not just enable corruption.
44:03Para forever tang mabihoden niya.
44:05Indebted.
44:06Indebted niya.
44:07Mubutarta niya.
44:08Bisag dili siya maayong congressman.
44:10As early as now,
44:12before the election,
44:14change na ang paradigm
44:16on what we expect
44:17on a congressman,
44:19on a senator,
44:20or even city councilor.
44:23They are legislators.
44:25Sila ang muhimu
44:26o balansi
44:27sa executive department.
44:29Sige lang,
44:30sa sunod,
44:31mag-101 niya.
44:32Ang haigit bita na to.
44:33Bisang paglayo pa ang eleksyon
44:34mga higala.
44:35Ang haigit.
44:36Kikining mga pangitabo ka ron
44:37sa santa na to.
44:39Kita may ni-elect.
44:40Kita may ni-elect.
44:41Example,
44:42si Sen. Jingo Estrada.
44:43Sen. Estrada
44:44is no stranger
44:45to corruption charges.
44:46Diba?
44:47And then,
44:48usahay po,
44:49kaming mga nang-expose ka ron
44:51about budget insertions.
44:52And then,
44:53some people
44:54would defend sila ba nga,
44:55ah,
44:56murag,
44:57okay rani ang budget insertion
44:58kay naka-scholarship man mi,
45:00na naman mi tulay.
45:02I mean,
45:03I mean,
45:04that's not exactly the spirit.
45:06So,
45:07kita said,
45:08we should adjust our expectation
45:09to our congressman, no?
45:11If ka na ang ilang ipanghambog,
45:13then,
45:14the more we even doubt them.
45:16No?
45:17Anong nanghugat na'y kaani?
45:18Correct.
45:19Kaya murag,
45:20murag,
45:21murag,
45:22itong imo,
45:23indebtedness,
45:24murag,
45:25how do you call that?
45:26They are soliciting sympathy
45:27from the voters
45:28doing the job
45:29that they are not supposed to do.
45:31But,
45:32sa ilang trabaho nga,
45:33ang nga'y trabaho,
45:34nagpainit,
45:35sa ilang robot
45:36sa kongreso.
45:37So,
45:38basic,
45:39asa pa ni pa doon
45:40ang mong lalis,
45:41kaya mo,
45:42mo trigger na rabag yun ni,
45:43ni DJ.
45:45Kanang, ah,
45:46sa karoon nga Sunstar,
45:48karoon nga issue ni Sunstar
45:49sa business section,
45:50mabasa din niyo di ay,
45:52ang gisawat ni DJ
45:53sa iyang interview
45:55with Jack Madrid.
45:56It's a very insightful story,
45:58so I advise you to read.
45:59AI,
46:00U.S. policy shifts test
46:02resilience
46:03of PH outsourcing.
46:05Mora Bagid na,
46:06murag,
46:07ang outsourcing.
46:08Mora Bagid na,
46:09murag,
46:10second to OFWs.
46:11Yes.
46:12Kanang,
46:13it's a revenue generation
46:14for the Philippines.
46:15So,
46:16threaten ni siya
46:17karoon mga panahon na,
46:18let's,
46:19basahan ninyo,
46:20interview ni na mo ni
46:21Jack Madrid
46:22last Thursday.
46:23Yes.
46:24Right?
46:25Last Thursday.
46:26So,
46:27pwede mo mabasa sa Sunstar
46:28na Kapi Karol.
46:29Wala,
46:30hindi ko nakalimut,
46:31hindi ko pasalamat yesterday,
46:32DJ.
46:33I would like to thank
46:34to our sponsors
46:35sa Campus Journalism Summit
46:37last Saturday.
46:38It was,
46:39well,
46:40it,
46:41it's very successful,
46:42no?
46:43But it's very,
46:44the spirits of the students
46:45is really very overwhelming.
46:47makakita mo sa'y performance
46:49na mag-newscast
46:50mo mag-newscast
46:51mo mag-correct
46:52niya,
46:53oh,
46:54good,
46:55grabe!
46:56kanang,
46:57may yud ang ilahang,
46:58kung ano ba?
46:59So,
47:00wak po nag-expect.
47:01mag-trained sa Sunstar
47:02sa Ila.
47:03And,
47:04by the way,
47:05that's also a good program
47:07kaya I'm also a product
47:08of Campus Journalism.
47:09So,
47:10I don't have
47:11Journalism as a degree,
47:13but I learned it also
47:14on Campus.
47:15So,
47:16it's good that Sunstar
47:17is developing students,
47:18no?
47:19Salamatun kayo sa among sponsors,
47:21ang Visayan Electric,
47:22Smart,
47:23PLDT,
47:24Globe,
47:25Palmgrass,
47:26ang supplier na mo
47:27sa among mga lingkuranan,
47:28sa Don Carlos Gothong,
47:30Sir Natna,
47:31thank you kaayos
47:32sa imong paghatag,
47:33pagpahuwam na mo
47:34sa 500 ka mga lingkuranan
47:36o sa imong podium.
47:37Thank you king.
47:38Salamat.
47:39To Jollibee,
47:40to Laguna Cafe,
47:44salamat kaayos
47:46sa food provision
47:47na busog in town
47:48ng among mga estudyante.
47:50Nakapadayon ni
47:51sa among program.
47:52To IPI,
47:53Bioderm,
47:54Roncalis,
47:56and Conloplo,
47:58man siguro to.
47:59Thank you kaayos
48:00sa inyong support.
48:02Hope to see you again
48:03next year.
48:04Let's make it
48:06bigger and more students
48:08ang ma-accommodate na mo.
48:12Uy,
48:13o di gudin na mo malimtan.
48:14Walay mahitabo nga
48:16event
48:17o wala yun
48:18ang venue support
48:19ni G-Mall.
48:20Sir Joey,
48:21thank you kaayos
48:22sa imong support.
48:23So,
48:24bisita ha ang G-Mall.
48:25You'll be surprised.
48:26Go to the grocery.
48:27Oh, no, no, no.
48:28I go there a lot.
48:29Kay neighbor raman.
48:30Ang grocery.
48:31Kay,
48:32kanang guha.
48:33Dagan kaayos siya
48:34o kanang...
48:35Options.
48:36So,
48:37kita ta nga tonit.
48:38Grocery ta.
48:39Ug maanit na.
48:40Actually, go there
48:41sa kanang ilang house
48:42ng section.
48:43Yes.
48:44And then grocery, yes.
48:45Okay.
48:46So, that wraps up this edition
48:48of Beyond the Headlines.
48:50We hope today's conversation
48:52helps shed light
48:53on the bigger picture
48:54behind the story.
48:55And we would like to thank
48:57our guest,
48:58Ms. Minerva Herodias
48:59for helping us
49:00connect the dots
49:01in ways that matter.
49:04I'm Mildred Galarpe.
49:05And I'm DJ Moises.
49:07Thank you and
49:08good afternoon.
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