00:00So when people look at President Trump, he's very hard to predict and then you
00:05personally work with him very closely. What is his decision-making process like
00:10looking at US-Taiwan-China relation? I haven't seen any any signs that he views
00:16Taiwan as a bargaining chip as you sometimes hear when you talk to people
00:20here or that he's he's on the brink of making huge concessions related to
00:26Taiwan. I don't know him that well but I did spend some time supporting the
00:33Korea diplomacy and I was with him in Hanoi when he walked away from a deal
00:37with the North Koreans. He said it was a bad deal and sometimes you walk away from
00:40a bad deal. So in my experience he is transactional but really still grounded
00:49to American interests and unlikely to take a bad deal as long as he recognizes
00:53it's a bad deal. In November we all know that Trump will meet potentially meet
00:58with his Chinese leader Xi Jinping. What do you think that the topics they will
01:03probably talk about or Taiwan related? It's quite common for China to make
01:08attempts at linkages. Well if you want this on trade you've got to do this on
01:12Taiwan. I don't think that's gonna be a very attractive offer to the president. I
01:17don't think he will want to look weak. I don't think he'll want to to make a move
01:21that looks like he made too much too many concessions to Xi Jinping. I want to
01:25quote here because Treasury Secretary Scott Besson actually comment about the
01:29chip about Taiwan as well and then there he said the single greatest point of
01:33failure for the world economy is the 99% of the high-performance chips that are
01:38produced in Taiwan. So he's trying to do risk by moving more chips production
01:46elsewhere. So what do you think about that? I can't speak for him and I can't
01:50interpret exactly what he meant. Just in general like the US administration has moved by doing that.
01:54Yeah to me it suggests Taiwan should be a closer partner and a stronger partner and
01:59that our economies are complementary not competitive. We should have a lot of
02:04confidence in Taiwan's ability to continue to play that role as a global
02:08leader particularly a dominant leader in the supply chain when it comes to these
02:13high-end chips. Yes the the US would like to see some of that production
02:18manufacturing move to the United States. Yes we'd like to see some of the supply
02:22chain also move to the United States so that we have some clean and and secure
02:29capability to manufacture but it would be unrealistic if by de-risk they mean a
02:33hundred percent. No and they mentioned like 30, 40, 50 percent. Yeah I understand the
02:38the interest on the part of the administration in the United States but
02:43that's a that's a negotiation Taiwan has chips to bring to the table to no pun
02:47intended.
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