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Marlon Wayans, Tyriq Withers and Julia Fox are starring the the Jordan Peele produced, Him. They chatted about the man himself and compared UK football to American. Report by Jonesl. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
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00:00This is too much. That's a lot.
00:01I was a troll.
00:02Ask me that question, he's answering it.
00:05Guys, congratulations on the movie.
00:07Thank you. Thank you so much.
00:08Every time I see Jordan Peele's name on something now,
00:11I know it's going to be messed up,
00:13which is weird considering how long he was this shining light
00:18in someone who's going to make you feel good and fluffy inside
00:21and make you laugh.
00:23So the best place to start, I guess, Marlon, with you, mate,
00:25you've kind of danced this line between humor and fear,
00:29comedy and horror, like, for a while,
00:32but we've always felt kind of held in your humor along that way.
00:37What's your take on how Jordan's sort of turned his back on this world
00:41and now is so immersed in the horrors and the scares?
00:45Do you think you could ever do that?
00:47Could you ever kind of just put a pin in that part of you?
00:49Absolutely. Because it's like when you're doing comedy,
00:54you have this huge light.
00:55And then when you start doing drama and horror
01:00and it gets twisted, it's turning the light off.
01:03And now you just have one little flashlight on,
01:06not even a full flashlight, it's like a phone light.
01:09And you're just in this dark space exploring.
01:12And it's a lot more fun than the light.
01:14This is too much. That's a lot.
01:16When you get to focus that light and turn it off
01:18and maybe turn it red and make it weird,
01:20that's fun to explore.
01:22That's what I was able to do, I mean, for me, for Isaiah,
01:25I got to own that same kind of dark light that he lives in.
01:30Do you think you could do that, like, every day, though?
01:32Like, week on week, year on year,
01:34and just be like, this is me now.
01:35I'm living in the darkness.
01:35This is easy compared to comedy.
01:38I'll switch.
01:40Comedy's hard.
01:41But there were moments in the film
01:43where Isaiah was really funny, too.
01:46Because, I mean, because he's dark.
01:48Yeah.
01:48And he's twisted.
01:49And I think it's fun that a bad guy has fun.
01:51I think it's testament to your performance in this.
01:54There was, like, whenever you're known for humor
01:56and then you do something serious,
01:58there's always, as an audience member,
01:59you're kind of, you're waiting to be told,
02:02hey, it's okay, I'm still here.
02:03I'm going to make you smile.
02:04I'm going to make you laugh.
02:05But I thought there was a kind of darkness
02:06in you throughout this.
02:08So there was moments when it was funny,
02:09but it was, like, awkward funny.
02:11Like, when your mate says something
02:12or you're introduced to somebody
02:13and you don't know if they like you yet
02:15and they're, like, taking the mick out of you
02:16or they're actually, like, giving you a hard time.
02:20So I enjoyed that.
02:21I was done with intention, right?
02:23Anytime I cracked the joke,
02:25it was because I was trying to humiliate him.
02:28It was coming from a bad place.
02:30I was insecure.
02:31And Isaiah was insecure
02:33and he wanted to humiliate him.
02:35He wanted to twist him.
02:36He wanted to hurt him.
02:37He wanted to, you know, cut him in some kind of way.
02:41So that's where the humor came from.
02:42So, yeah, it was uncomfortable.
02:44It wasn't like someone was playing nice.
02:47Tariq, I heard you,
02:48I looked at some clips from the US premiere
02:50and you talked about you guys' relationship on set
02:52and there was a sort of, like,
02:54a brotherly thing that sounded like it was both,
02:58Marlon giving you a bit of a hard time,
03:00as, like, a big brother would do, like, hazing.
03:01But then because of the performances in the movie,
03:04like, I see it and I'm like,
03:05was there some of that, like, hard edge?
03:08Were you, like, trying to put him in an awkward space
03:10because of the actual,
03:11what you were trying to put on camera?
03:12How did you feel around that?
03:14And how different has he been
03:15since you finished filming?
03:18I did it the whole movie.
03:20Yeah.
03:20I trolled him in a light way.
03:22Yeah.
03:23Marlon to Tariq.
03:24I would, I would, I was a troll.
03:26I apologize.
03:27He's trolling me right now.
03:28Because you asked me that question and he's answering it.
03:32No, but, you know, having a brother,
03:35I don't know if you have siblings,
03:37but, like, I had an older brother who passed away.
03:40But, like, the, you know, it's wrapped up.
03:43The love is wrapped up into, like, the humor,
03:45the jokes, the hard times, you know.
03:47Luckily, me and Marlon kept it light, you know,
03:49like, the, you know, the cool arguments.
03:52He'll say he's better at pool.
03:53I say I'm better.
03:55But, you know, that fun competition.
03:57And then the jokes.
03:58And, you know, he'll, he'll throw a party.
04:00I'll throw a bigger one.
04:01Yeah.
04:03I throw a potluck and he throws something
04:05that he paid for the entire thing.
04:07But, yeah, I think that, that,
04:10that made the film even better.
04:12And also, you know, he'd give me certain,
04:15you know, improv moments.
04:17And I know part of his improv was messing with me
04:19in the scene.
04:20And I think the one word I can think of is permission.
04:23We gave each other permission to just go to those,
04:25those extents to get that reaction from each other.
04:31And I think that permission from him and Justin
04:35is why you get what you get from Isaiah White.
04:38That's really sort of the kind of,
04:40the start of his career in many ways.
04:42And the movie seems to be, like,
04:44muses on various different things,
04:45like the trappings of fame and ambition
04:47and manipulations behind the scenes,
04:50what people project onto you
04:52when you're on a rise into kind of a public sphere.
04:55You guys have kind of lived in the public sphere
04:58for a longer time now.
04:59Was this movie at all kind of cathartic in a way
05:02because of the experiences you've had
05:05in your, like, being thrust into the spotlight?
05:08And it sounds silly to say
05:11because of the kind of movie it is,
05:12but how, like,
05:13were there any kind of realistic areas
05:16of the kind of people you've been around
05:17as you've, like, tried to navigate your careers
05:19and the people you've had to, like, watch out for
05:22as you've gone about your business?
05:24Definitely.
05:25Yeah.
05:26I think it's a cautionary tale.
05:30So there's a, so when you,
05:32when things,
05:33I don't want to give too much away
05:34because it does become quite graphic
05:36and stuff like that.
05:38There was no one in your mind's eye,
05:41you won't have to name any names,
05:42but mind's eye when you're like,
05:43oh, it'd be nice if this happened in real life
05:48at any point with the kind of people.
05:49It all does happen in real life.
05:52You know, you've seen it all.
05:53You've seen the wild parties.
05:55You've seen the, you know,
05:56what people, the bad mentors.
05:58You've seen, you know,
06:00what people were willing to sacrifice
06:01for fame or for success
06:03or just for opportunity.
06:05And, you know, I think it's a,
06:07you know, a lot of it is,
06:08I think a good movie has to resonate.
06:10Yeah.
06:11It makes you feel a certain way.
06:12It makes you think about
06:13if I was in that experience.
06:15It's like, I look at this movie
06:16and I go, I feel the same way,
06:19but different about like
06:20Requiem for a Dream.
06:21It was a movie that was so impactful.
06:24Like it made me put down the weed.
06:28I'm good.
06:30I'm good.
06:31You know what I mean?
06:31Maybe it changed me.
06:33It made me look out
06:34when I think this movie has the same effect.
06:36Except Requiem,
06:37it crashed through the ground.
06:39Those rollercoaster went up
06:40and crashed through the ground
06:42and everybody died.
06:43It was like final destination.
06:45This movie is,
06:46it goes up,
06:47it goes down
06:48just when you're about to hit the floor.
06:49It twists,
06:50it goes back
06:51and then stops
06:52on a dime
06:53and then it goes backward.
06:54And you get off the ride
06:56and you go,
06:56I don't know what happened,
06:59but I want to do it again.
07:01I was thinking about that movie
07:02because again,
07:03when people put their expectations on you,
07:05we know you from comedy for so many years
07:07and you forget sometimes
07:08that you're in these very dark,
07:10there's some dark roles
07:11along the way as well.
07:12I think people need to stop
07:14like differentiating comedy
07:16from drama
07:17because I think that comedy
07:20and laughter
07:21is a tool
07:22that really hurt
07:25or like people
07:26that are in pain
07:27use.
07:28You know what I mean?
07:29Like it's all the same.
07:31It's two sides
07:32to the same
07:33like scale
07:34or spectrum,
07:35I guess.
07:36Like they go hand in hand.
07:37You can't be funny
07:38unless you've been through some shit.
07:40So that's why I think
07:41comedians are the best
07:43dramatic actors
07:44and I've got to witness that
07:45firsthand
07:46with multiple comedians now.
07:49That's a very good point.
07:50The whole like tears of a clown.
07:51It's not its own thing.
07:52They're not two separate things.
07:53They are one.
07:54And you often find
07:55like even great dramatic actors,
07:57they've done some good
07:57like comedy roles along the way
07:58but it always seems to be
07:59the other way around
08:00where they kind of excel.
08:02I've never seen a great
08:03dramatic actor
08:04do an hour of stand-up.
08:06Something goofy,
08:07crazy,
08:08and make you laugh.
08:09Making somebody laugh,
08:10evoking that emotion
08:11to the majority of a crowd.
08:14You have to really strike a chord
08:15inside someone's like
08:17like soul, psyche.
08:19And I think audiences
08:20are kind of open to it as well
08:21because when you see
08:22somebody who's used to
08:23making you feel good
08:24and smiling laugh so much
08:25looking like they're in pain,
08:27there's part of you
08:28like you're giving yourself
08:29to them as well.
08:31It's like seeing a family member
08:32as someone you love in pain
08:34and you're kind of
08:35invested in that way.
08:36I want to touch on American football.
08:39It's not as good
08:40as real football obviously
08:41but it does seem to be
08:42the most cinematic sports
08:45of all time.
08:46there's very few good
08:48like real football movies
08:50or shows that kind of
08:51encapsulate that excitement
08:52whereas there's you know
08:54Remember the Titans
08:55and Friday Night Lights
08:56Any Given Sunday.
08:57There's just like so many
08:58American football movies.
09:00Why do you think
09:00this sport and this world
09:02is as cinematic
09:03as it is?
09:06What lends itself
09:07to be so enthralling
09:08visually
09:09and the stories behind it?
09:10I think the violence
09:11is one of the elements
09:13you know
09:13the violence
09:15the camaraderie
09:16the brotherhood
09:17the desperate
09:17fight to win
09:19everybody
09:19when you watch a movie
09:20you're looking for an elixir
09:21winning is an elixir
09:23so you're rooting for somebody
09:25who's willing to put
09:26their life on the line
09:28every play
09:28just to win this little
09:31trophy
09:32and it's loud
09:34so when crunching
09:35of the helmets
09:36and you play that
09:37on THX
09:38it affects you
09:39you know
09:40I went to watch
09:40this movie
09:41in 4X
09:42and it was wild
09:44it was blood
09:46every time
09:46you know
09:47the helmets collide
09:48the water hitting our face
09:50and we was going
09:50up and down
09:51and you feel the hits
09:52and I'm telling you
09:53it was a
09:54that was a roller coaster
09:56so it was a hell of a ride
09:57I just think that
09:58you know
09:59there's a lot about
10:00the sport
10:01football
10:01and that's why
10:02I'm happy
10:03athletes are starting
10:03to make more money
10:04you know
10:05there's a lot of
10:05athletes that suffer
10:07a lot of damage
10:07after the sport
10:08and you know
10:10but would you ask them
10:12would they do it again
10:13they'd smoke a cigar
10:14and blow it out
10:15in your face
10:16and go hell yeah
10:16I think you make a good point
10:18about the sound
10:19as well
10:19I mean
10:19I don't remember
10:20many good rugby movies
10:22and that's violent
10:23but like the thud
10:23of bodies just clashing
10:25together is one thing
10:25but the cacophony
10:27of noise
10:28that comes from
10:28something like
10:29American football
10:29anyway guys
10:30I enjoyed it
10:31it was messed up
10:32but messed up
10:34in a good way
10:34thank you
10:35and I hope you guys
10:36continue making movies
10:38that kind of scratch
10:38that itch
10:39as you go on
10:40and hopefully
10:41I'll still be
10:41big props to Justin
10:42Tipping who
10:43I honestly say
10:45I think this is
10:45my favourite movie
10:47I've done
10:47awesome
10:48even over Requiem
10:49yeah
10:50different
10:51I think
10:52I was able to
10:53for me personally
10:55I think
10:55Justin
10:57this character
10:58Isaiah
10:58and
11:00in the hands
11:01of Justin
11:02Justin allowed me
11:03a lot of freedom
11:03and
11:04Darren gave me
11:06wonderful direction
11:07he's a great director
11:08as well
11:08but
11:09I didn't have the
11:10freedom on Requiem
11:11as I had
11:12on this
11:12this was untethered
11:14well let's see
11:15how Scary Movie 6
11:16does
11:16because it might
11:17blow it out of the water
11:18who knows guys
11:19you
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