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00:00Hello and welcome to the Traitors Ireland Uncloaked, the official Traitors visual podcast with me, Kevin McGahern.
00:05If you haven't already seen the latest episode, I highly recommend you watch it first on the RT Player,
00:11otherwise you'll be as confused as...
00:14Wilkin.
00:14Well, things are hotting up in the castle as Nick just seduced Ben.
00:18The bros have a code, and as a surprise to absolutely no one,
00:22the evil Burton Ernie weren't long giving us the ick.
00:25Rolling around the bed and a load of 50 euros.
00:30Later on, Amy and Joanna will be here to give us their side of the story,
00:34and we'll have the unseen footage of them finding out the truth about the Traitors.
00:40Oh my God!
00:41So I was right. I am delighted to see that.
00:50But first, I'm joined by Rachel Galvo and Carol Mulley!
00:55Yay! What the frick?
00:57Guys, you're both very welcome to the show.
01:00That was quite a day of distrust in the castle.
01:02Rachel, what's your reaction?
01:03Oh, I thought it was such a great episode.
01:05I feel like my heart rate is up.
01:07I'm excited to talk about it.
01:08I can't believe...
01:09Now, the two lads have given me a massive ick.
01:11Massive ick.
01:11I've seen that scene on Harcourt Street.
01:13I've seen that scene when two of the private school lads get chosen for the SCT team.
01:17Like, I've seen that before, that reaction.
01:19I'm excited to get into it.
01:20There was serious pinky in the brain vibes going on.
01:23They are like, they've really tapped into each other's psyches.
01:27Although, I kind of wonder, like, could one of the other knife one?
01:33Nick is going to stop Ben in the back.
01:34You think so?
01:35I don't imagine Nick is the type of person who wants to split money with someone.
01:39I kind of feel he's the type of guy, like, if you get the taxi, I'll get you a drink in there.
01:43And suddenly, you're laughing, looking around, like, you know?
01:46You wanted water, right?
01:48I think you've had enough.
01:49I think you've had enough, mate.
01:51Guys, where did all this heat on Joanna come from?
01:54From the conversation with Oyn a few episodes back at the round table.
01:58It's a 10-second little throwaway conversation.
02:02And it completely, it shows how ruthless this game can be.
02:07Because I personally feel like Oyn knew exactly what she was doing.
02:12And she was like, heats on her, let's go.
02:15I think I'm, like, I'm all for, you know, saying something over a coffee and you completely forget it.
02:19But she knew she was going to vote for Faye.
02:22She knew that, like, that doesn't come from nowhere.
02:23You can forget having a conversation at the round table.
02:25But you don't forget having a whole suspicion about someone.
02:28I don't think so.
02:29Also, as well, if you're caught in a lie, you're done.
02:32Even a tiny little lie, if people catch you in that lie, they're like, okay, well, if you're lying about this, then you must be a traitor.
02:39You kind of have to really back yourself also when it comes to a lie.
02:42But when it came to them having to sell themselves in terms of why they're trustworthy, they were terrible at it.
02:48Nick, well, I play sports.
02:51I'm in the defense.
02:53I'm trustworthy.
02:54What?
02:54Look.
02:54It reminds me of, do you remember that episode in Father Ted where they have to, like, explain why they should get the parachute?
03:01Yeah.
03:02And then, well, I think I should get both parachutes in case one of them doesn't work.
03:06And everyone just goes, like, we're not comfortable in bigging ourselves up at all.
03:12Folks, why do you think Joanna gave Kelly the shield?
03:14There was serious mean girl vibes going on.
03:16And I personally think Kelly in Joanna's head wasn't included in that little mean girl's clique.
03:24She wasn't.
03:24I think possibly even before the roundtable, she might have been picking up on a few, not the mean girl vibes.
03:29I don't like saying the mean girl thing because as a girl, when you get accused of being a mean girl, that's a massive smack in the face.
03:34Yeah.
03:34Like, it's really, really harsh on national TV as well.
03:36But I know that Kelly's kind of go-to person was Amy.
03:39Now Amy's gone.
03:40Maybe Joanna kind of resonated with Kelly a bit, being kind of a bit alone then in that episode and felt bad for her, wanted to protect her.
03:48And then when they all started piling on at the roundtable, what did she say?
03:53It's like, thanks for the shield, bye-bye, bitch.
03:56Holy shit.
03:58You can see the knives being sharpened big time.
04:01My heart broke at that exact moment.
04:04I was just brought back to secondary school.
04:06Same.
04:06I'm not sure she meant it to be as mean as it came out.
04:09She felt awful after, didn't she?
04:10She did feel awful.
04:11You can tell she'll see it, she'll watch it back and just be like, she's going to take this off.
04:15Yeah, there was a bit of a bit, thanks for the shield.
04:17I think she thought it was a mic drop moment.
04:20It was the fact that all the other girls laughed as well.
04:22It was, it was mean girl energy, but they felt awful, awful about it.
04:26And it got called out as well.
04:27That was the big part where you were like, oh God, this is even worse than I thought it could ever be.
04:32I don't, I don't know.
04:33I think they were very clever pitting all the women against each other.
04:37Women like we talk, we gossip.
04:38Like I know it's a stereotype, but we do.
04:40That's like our culture is, you know, going to the coffee shop and talking, talking, talking.
04:44And we get too, too distracted or to stop and just look around us and take it all in.
04:49Do you know what I mean?
04:50So I think they were clever making that move.
04:52But no, I think I'm getting too invested in this now because I'm like, you're reminding me of exes.
04:56But then I'm like, no, it's a game.
04:57They remind me of the exes, you know, and you're like, I know you've been cheating on me.
05:00And they're like, no, you're crazy, babe.
05:02But they're stroking your back and you're like, oh, you're a nice guy.
05:04They're not.
05:04I kind of feel that the two lads though, they're really on the edge now.
05:09Like it seems to me they're like someone who's someone at Everest and they feel like it's job done now.
05:16And they're literally one slip away now from everyone finding out who they're running back down, putting the slip on their arse and fall.
05:23But it's it's almost like there's too much trauma in the girls group now that they don't see.
05:29Holy shit.
05:30Why are the lads just sitting back?
05:32Yeah, like I'm hoping that they will just the penny will drop.
05:36Yeah, I think with all the drama as well, everyone's really turning on looking at themselves and everyone's feeling guilty.
05:42Yeah, like Faye is freaking out about why are people perceiving me that way because I had a panic attack or whatever.
05:47You know, Kelly feels really awful about that comment.
05:50Like everyone is feeling guilty about themselves.
05:52It's the Irish thing again, isn't it?
05:54And it's a great place now for the lads to be in because they're probably going to be less likely,
06:00the girls are less likely to call someone out because they're feeling so guilty now about getting it so wrong.
06:05Yeah, well, we will get the insider scoop with Amy and Joanna on all things bromance and that devastating round table right after the break.
06:13See you then.
06:23Welcome back to Uncloaked.
06:24I'm here with Carol and Rachel and I'm also joined by Joanna and Amy.
06:31Guys, you're very welcome to the attic.
06:33Joanna, that was one of the most unjust departures we've seen in the whole series.
06:37How was it for you?
06:38Oh, it was horrible.
06:39It was absolutely horrible.
06:40I felt so bad.
06:42And the way I was being attacked at the table, it's just, it felt very personal.
06:48Well, tonight's round table had only one direction of travel and all daggers were pointed at you, Joanna.
06:54Jo.
06:55I voted for you, Jo.
06:56Sorry, Joanne, I've also voted for you.
06:58Joanna, sorry, I voted for you.
06:59Sorry, Jo.
07:00Sorry, Jo.
07:01I was really hurt by what I heard today.
07:02Joanna, you have received the most votes, so come up here and join me.
07:07Is there anything you would like to say to your fellow players?
07:10I said I'm not gonna cry and the only reason I'm doing that, because my character was being attacked.
07:17I actually hope one of the guys will win it because you're mean girls and I'm a paid follower.
07:29Mike.
07:30Boom.
07:31That is hard.
07:32Is it hard not to take it personally?
07:33It is.
07:34And I think it's because it's gone for so long.
07:36And I was, I think across every single day I was trying to, oh, sorry.
07:40Yeah.
07:41Yeah, yeah.
07:42It's, it's, it just gets to me.
07:43Yeah.
07:44Because I was like, I think I was so focused and I was like, I need to do this.
07:48I'm not like following the crowd.
07:49I'm going to do my own tactic, which I was like, never vote for the traitors.
07:54Don't go and just like be like screaming.
07:57So I think like I was like going very under everybody's raiders.
08:01Yeah.
08:02And I was just trying to stay who I am.
08:04So that was just.
08:06You think that but then there was a strength in you as well, like because you didn't lie.
08:10And you did call people out and you did go straight away to them if they said something where you taught it.
08:15And like, do you know what I mean?
08:16So like that in itself was like, made you a strong character.
08:19Yeah, not once did I lie.
08:21And my main thing was because I have teenagers daughters and I always say like, please, it's so easy.
08:28Like just, it's nice to be nice.
08:30Just like, don't go, don't fight.
08:33Like just like, don't be aggressive towards anybody.
08:36And I think it's the way how you communicate in.
08:39It's like, I think like let people talk and you talk, but do not like at the table.
08:44When Vanessa was like going after me and it was just like, you're not answering the questions.
08:49You're not answering the questions.
08:50I was like, the fact that I'm answering different than what you want to hear doesn't mean I do not answer them.
08:55So there's no point of you talking to somebody who doesn't listen to you.
08:59Well, it all kicked off over a disagreement of what was said way back in episode eight between yourself and Eoin at the round table.
09:06Let's finally put this to bed.
09:08No.
09:09What are you going for?
09:11Huh?
09:12What are you going for?
09:13What are you going for?
09:14What are you going for?
09:15I'm going for a will.
09:16We don't have a will.
09:18You're welcome.
09:19Oh, okay.
09:20There you go.
09:22Do you feel vindicated?
09:23I am.
09:24I am.
09:25And I needed that because I knew it, it did happen.
09:27Yeah.
09:29We forget we're watching a heavily condensed version of your day where things have been plucked out like important pieces.
09:39You must start to question yourself.
09:42Maybe I did say that.
09:43Maybe I didn't say that.
09:44I didn't question myself because I knew it did happen.
09:47And it was like, and I said it to people after that.
09:50Yeah.
09:51That conversation happened.
09:52I knew it's like, but my thing was because I was the only person then whose English is in the first language.
09:58And I've said it a few times to like a different people.
10:01I was like, I'm so conscious about like me speaking and talking.
10:05So I was like, okay, maybe stuff.
10:07Sometimes they're being redirected or like changed.
10:10Misconstrued or something.
10:11Yeah, yeah.
10:12That's really tough.
10:13It's hard.
10:14When you're being tired, when you're talking to so many people and trying still, like we were still like solving like who's the traitor.
10:21And having so many conversations about the same person to different people.
10:27And it's like, well, did I say that to them?
10:29Or was that like that happened?
10:30Who did I say to you?
10:31There as well.
10:32Well, when did you say that?
10:33And I was like, and my mind went blank.
10:34And I was like, I actually can't remember.
10:35I was like, and now I look so sus.
10:36And I was like, I genuinely can't remember.
10:38I was like, please come back.
10:40For keeping your cool.
10:42If you're not able to have your point across when you come.
10:47What's the point of like screaming it?
10:49Please tell me you sent a picture into your WhatsApp group with everyone just been like this.
10:53I told you.
10:54You're going to have to do that now.
10:55It's going to be easy to do that now.
10:56Now, before we talk about the shield, I have to say you were enjoying stroking that dagger a little bit too much.
11:10Let's have a look.
11:11Let's have a look.
11:12She's a fucking dagger now.
11:13Where's your head at?
11:14Going to the table.
11:15I don't know.
11:16You're going to have a rub with that dagger.
11:19Late night.
11:20How did I use this?
11:22To be fair.
11:23Can we even show that on RTU?
11:25Isn't that appropriate?
11:27Smooth movement.
11:28I was the only person who had it.
11:31So I was like, this is my first.
11:33Can I ask?
11:35But like, why did you give Kelly the shield?
11:38Kelly was having such a horrible day.
11:40And she was very emotional and she was exhausted.
11:43She was missing you so much.
11:45You were so close.
11:46I just like, it's just the mommy instincts.
11:49I was like, I have to look after her.
11:50Plus, I had the thought that she might be the next who's going to be killed.
11:55Yeah.
11:56So I wanted to protect her.
11:58Even though.
11:59I'm so grateful.
12:00And you knew that it would be useless to you because you knew you weren't going to get killed.
12:06I knew it.
12:07Yeah.
12:08I was hoping.
12:09I was hoping that I'm going to be able to have my point across.
12:12And I was hoping that Nick actually going to go against Vanessa as well.
12:17So I was like, okay, I have two votes.
12:19Yeah.
12:20And I thought it was going to go that way.
12:22Because I've seen him talking to Will as well about that.
12:25Yeah.
12:26Plus, I had the conversation with him as well.
12:28And I said it to him because I was suspicious of him.
12:31So, and I had the conversation with him, I was telling him like, I know I'm not going to win it, but I'd love to go as far as I can just because.
12:39So like, it's, it's very different when you don't have the alliance.
12:42Like, this is the danger of the show.
12:44Like if you, if you form friendships with people and relationships, then it blinds you to whether they could be a traitor or not.
12:51Yeah.
12:52But then if you don't form friendships, then you don't have those people looking after you.
12:56Yeah.
12:57It's a tough line.
12:58Well, I hope this doesn't cause great trauma, but let's have a look at the moment where Kelly turned on you at the round table.
13:05Oh.
13:06I'm glad you gave me the shield because I feel like it was kind of like, and I'm sorry.
13:09That's fine.
13:10You were getting my vote, but thank you for the shield.
13:14To Joanna, I want to say I'm so sorry.
13:16I feel like she was nothing but good to me.
13:18And I just hate thinking that she's left the game with like a sour taste in her mouth because she should be so proud of herself.
13:23She played it brilliantly.
13:24And I think she's an amazing and such an inspiring woman.
13:27Nick, like a weird teapot.
13:31The posture.
13:33So straight back.
13:35If that's a scream trait, I don't want to.
13:39Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:40There, there.
13:41As far as I know, this is how you comfort a woman.
13:46But you know what?
13:47I just didn't want to cry, but I did want it to say, please stop saying all this.
13:51No, you could say all those horrible things about me when and if I'm going to say I'm a traitor.
13:56Yeah.
13:57There was no need for like just being condescending.
14:00It is a game.
14:01And if people decide that their game plan is to be ruthless, like that's okay as well.
14:05Yeah.
14:06It's just that.
14:07Just the public will turn it around.
14:09Yeah.
14:10Yeah.
14:11But that's everybody's choice, how they want to be.
14:14And like whatever game they play in.
14:16I think like everybody was playing their own game and that's okay.
14:19Yeah.
14:20It's just there's no need to be nasty to people.
14:22Yeah.
14:23That was always my thing.
14:24Do you accept Kelly's apology?
14:26I do.
14:27She, she is a wonderful person.
14:29And I think she was like rattled.
14:31Like she just lost her best friend there.
14:33Yeah.
14:34So, and she did ask me in the kitchen.
14:36I was like, did you kill her?
14:37And I just want, and I said it like, no.
14:39No.
14:40Yes.
14:41We had that conversation.
14:42And I was like, no.
14:43And remember, it's just a game.
14:45And then she used that against me.
14:47Yeah.
14:48And I was like, I was just trying to calm her down.
14:50Yeah.
14:51Again, I just have this, like, I don't want anybody to be stressed.
14:53Anything can be misconstrued.
14:55Yes.
14:56Now, Amy, Kelly wanted to take Joanna down out of loyalty to you.
14:59Yeah.
15:00The two of you were very close.
15:02Are you rooting for Kelly?
15:04One hundred and ten percent.
15:06Yeah.
15:07One hundred and ten percent.
15:08I just said that, like, if it was between me and her that night, I hope that it's me that goes because I think she could go all the way.
15:16I love her.
15:17I think she's brilliant.
15:18And I think that she is just, she's so smart.
15:20She's so, she's just so lovable because she's just really, really genuine.
15:26And I think that they're just such good traits.
15:28So I'd love to see, I'd love to see her going all the way.
15:30I really would.
15:31I think she deserves it.
15:32See, this is the kind of sisterhood that I hope still exists in the castle right now.
15:36I hope so.
15:37If anyone's being mean to her, I don't.
15:39There's a lot of masculine power in there that needs to be taken down, I think.
15:44Guys, have you seen much of a change in the players from day one?
15:48I think people have to change their behaviors because the situation is changing.
15:52At the start, I thought, okay, I don't want to follow everybody else because I thought, okay, if I'm not going to be voting for traders, even if I know they are, and just be able to see, like, say what I see, that'll leave me kind of safe.
16:08So I'm not a threat to anybody.
16:10But in that, in the same way, nobody could say I'm lying.
16:13What do you think, Amy?
16:14Have you noticed a change in people since day one?
16:16Yeah, but I think everyone has changed.
16:18I don't know necessarily if it's to do with, like, gameplay or whatever.
16:22I think everyone is just getting more immersed in the game.
16:24And then the fewer people that there are, the fewer people that there are to blame.
16:29So then you're starting to, like, look at your, probably not your best friends.
16:33Like I said, I would never look at Kelly.
16:35But you are starting to look at people that, like, you're a bit closer to.
16:39And then you're starting to question that.
16:42So then, like, I know that I behaved a little bit differently.
16:45Like, I retreated a little bit.
16:46I started to get very suspicious of people.
16:48And I didn't like that because I'm a very open person.
16:50And I wanted to, like, continue that.
16:52And I was like, oh, if we just put the game aside for a while.
16:54Like, we can just, like, have a chat and it'll be grand.
16:55But it's not like the game is always there.
16:57So you're, I know that I was different.
17:00And then, like, I picked up on differences in other people as well.
17:02But I think that's just natural.
17:05Like, everyone is in, like, survival mode by that stage.
17:07Yeah.
17:08Well, I really enjoyed both of your reactions to the traitors reveals.
17:12Let's have a gander.
17:13The traitors.
17:15Traitors are Nick.
17:16I knew it.
17:17Like, I didn't know, but I knew.
17:18And I just said, like, there's a reason that he's still here.
17:20Nick.
17:21So I was right.
17:22Go, Nick.
17:23I am delighted to see that.
17:24Ben!
17:25Ah!
17:26Oh, my God.
17:27I did say I didn't think it was the two of them.
17:30I said it was one or the other.
17:31I'm not surprised at that.
17:32And I knew after walking in on them last night.
17:36Snakes.
17:37And Ben.
17:38That would explain why I didn't have to talk to Ben.
17:41Because he knew everything from Nick.
17:43Well done.
17:44Go, boys.
17:45Go, boys.
17:46Go, boys.
17:47That's it.
17:48Go, boys.
17:49That's a pretty healthy attitude.
17:52Yeah.
17:53From both of you.
17:54I thought you'd be more annoyed.
17:56Ah, no.
17:57No, I couldn't.
17:58I wouldn't be.
17:59Because at this stage, I was so angry with the girls and how I was being treated by them.
18:04So I was like, go, boys.
18:06Go, boys.
18:08I know.
18:09I just, I love the two of them.
18:10So I just thought it was, I just think it's so funny.
18:12Like, they're hilarious in there.
18:14Like, I can't explain how funny the two of them are.
18:16When you see them together, like, it's such a little bromance.
18:18They bounce off each other.
18:19They bounce off each other so much.
18:20So it's like, you are like, you know, brothers and sisters, like, in a sense, in there.
18:24So then, like, to see them, it's, you know, like, how are you getting away with that?
18:27It's more funny than anything.
18:28It's like, kids are literally hiding and playing sight.
18:30And no one has a clue.
18:31Cheeky, cheeky.
18:32Cheeky, cheeky.
18:33I do picture, like, Ben coming up to the castle with a footballer and, is Nick and Miss?
18:37Yeah.
18:38Can he come out?
18:39Yeah.
18:40I'm kind of reassured to hear all of this, though, because you watch this show and you're like, God, my faith in humanity, it's really running into it.
18:47And now he's talking like, oh, okay.
18:49Yeah.
18:50All right.
18:51Obviously, we're only seeing snippets.
18:53So we take back everything we said.
18:55There was a lot of speculation at the start of the series, whether there was a relationship among them.
19:01We know that it's Andrew and Poddy now.
19:04But there were rumours going round about you and Ben.
19:08Care to address this?
19:10It's so funny.
19:11I think it was Caitlin that said it to me, actually.
19:14She said that I thought you were either married or brother and sister.
19:18And I was like, that's a fair.
19:19Yeah.
19:20I was like, okay, that's very random.
19:22But it was to do it like the tattoo on my leg, I think, and then because we're from the same area, but we never knew each other.
19:29Like it was mad.
19:30We were like, wonder how many times like we passed each other in the supermarket and like didn't know.
19:34Do you know what I mean?
19:35But I'm sorry.
19:36What is the tattoo of?
19:38It's a bearded lady.
19:40So I got it done.
19:42I got it done in the tattoo studio where I work.
19:45My friend Shane done it for me and I wore a skirt in there one day.
19:49And I can't remember who pointed it out.
19:51But then it was like, oh, my God, is that Ben with makeup on?
19:54And then it was like, so there it was there.
19:58So we got like a side by side.
20:00And it was just, and I think that just kind of added like, fuel to it.
20:04That like, are they related?
20:06Are they related?
20:07If anything points towards the paranoia that must go on in there.
20:10That's it.
20:11Yeah.
20:12What do you think of the burgeoning bromance?
20:26Are the lads getting a bit too confident, do you think?
20:28I think they all together all the time.
20:31So that didn't really change much.
20:33Like so for us, like as a contestants, like being there and looking at them, like it's, it's the same.
20:39Really?
20:40Yeah, they are a duo.
20:41And like, even like seeing Ben, Ben reaction to it.
20:44Like when he opened like the letter, he was like, ooh.
20:46And then as soon as he saw him, he was like, yep, Grant.
20:49Yeah.
20:50I wouldn't want to be a traitor.
20:53Let's get murdering.
20:57So excited.
20:58Yeah. Now the bromance is iconic.
21:00But do you not think they're getting slightly like cocky?
21:02Like, you know, at the end he was saying, oh, it's ours to lose now.
21:05Like we've basically got it in the bag.
21:07They come across quite cocky at times.
21:10But then they're always the forced ones to come and like apologize.
21:13And acknowledge it.
21:14And acknowledge it and stuff.
21:16So even even a comment like, and like Nick, he was such a gentleman from the start.
21:23He was such a gentleman.
21:24Like I think like it's just, it's just like every comment that he would like make and then he'd come to you and be like, I'm sorry.
21:31I didn't really mean that.
21:32I hope you're not offended.
21:33Like it's just.
21:34And I think that's how they're kind of like, people know, but they don't know.
21:39But they do.
21:40You know, it's like, we know that we should be suspicious of them, but we just can't be for some reason.
21:44Do you know what I mean?
21:45Yeah.
21:46You can see it like that.
21:47God, it's great being a lad.
21:48Yeah.
21:49You know what I mean?
21:50Boys will be boys is all I'm hearing.
21:52Let them on.
21:53Like a little bit.
21:54But like, and that as well, you know, like, I think that like, it's really good that, you know, like, they're getting shown, you know, like the traitor hunters and stuff like that.
22:00But like the girls and stuff, like called stuff out, like really, like Iain was like.
22:04Iain was on the ball several times.
22:05On the ball.
22:06Like Kelly was the first one, I think, to call out like Eamonn as well.
22:09Do you know what I mean?
22:10And I was like, I like, I'd be saying it to Iain like, you're like the oracle.
22:13Do you know what I mean?
22:14Yeah.
22:15Amy, shush, don't be saying that too loud.
22:16I was like, no, like you are on it.
22:17I genuinely thought she was, she was, I always said septic.
22:20I genuinely thought she was psychic.
22:23Yeah, septic.
22:24And then I was like, has she got like this inside information or something?
22:27Do you know what I mean?
22:28She was so on point.
22:29On point.
22:30Who do you think is next to go?
22:31I think, and I hope I'm wrong, but I do think that it could be Iain or Vanessa.
22:37Murdered.
22:38I think that they might murder Iain.
22:41Just what they were saying is in, you know, like they know that they have kind of like, well, they think that they have Vanessa's vote there.
22:48And I think that Iain is just, she's such a powerful player.
22:53And I really hope that that's coming across.
22:55Like she is just so clued in and the two of them are so tight that like I do think that it could be one of them.
23:01I'm not sure should I be saying that, but I actually hope it's going to be Vanessa just because I don't think she deserved to win the way she was talking to people in the castle in general.
23:10So I would like somebody who's genuine people to win.
23:15Like Kelly.
23:16Like Kelly.
23:17Like Kelly.
23:18Well, tomorrow night is the penultimate episode of The Traitors.
23:23If you think tonight was like Mean Girls, I got a feeling tomorrow is going to be like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
23:28Watch on RT1 or the RT player and then we'll see you afterwards for some post-match analysis.
23:34I want to give a big thank you to my amazing guests, Carl, Rachel, Joanna and Amy.
23:41We'll see you next time.
23:43We'll see you next time.
24:13Bye.
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