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00:00You must not let these doubts creep in.
00:16I've been staring at that scar on his cheek for decades,
00:19and I vividly remember him telling me
00:21it was a tree-locking accident.
00:24My duty is to present all the evidence,
00:26no matter what it is or where it's from.
00:28If you do have something that will help this case,
00:31then you should tell me Llewellyn.
00:33Dad, you know I'm not here just for a holiday, hey?
00:35I'm here so we can get to know each other.
00:37Take a deep breath in.
00:40Head out.
00:41Yeah, while you were cancelling Principal Thorne,
00:43you forgot you were cancelling me too.
00:44Leave me alone!
00:46I'm ashamed of you!
00:51I feel like I can't find you!
00:53If I am, I'm here!
00:55But you're actually not.
00:56I love you.
00:58I'm meant to be having dinner with her tonight.
01:00I'm going to cancel it.
01:02Hey!
01:03Jazz, this kind of thing is going to keep happening.
01:05Do you not realise that?
01:06If you weren't there that night,
01:08something could happen.
01:09We helped you, and now you want to what?
01:10You want to get the club shut down?
01:11Mr. Delamore, this is Brett Colby, SC.
01:22I am in the thick of a murder trial,
01:37and it is imperative that I speak with you,
01:41as I believe that you have critical information to this case.
01:46Now, as we are not able to meet,
01:49could you please contact my associate, Nina De Stasio,
01:52to set up an urgent video call with my fax?
01:56tingles,
02:10taxi from Mr. Delamore, De Stasio.
02:16I feel you
02:26Buddy, they call me
02:33Nina, hey, I'm just wondering, have you found out who John is?
02:39You can't discuss that.
02:42Look, I'm the one that gave you the photo. Please.
02:46We've found him, yes, but it's not promising. That's all I can say.
02:52It was a feat
03:00I wanna say while we mix
03:04Hey.
03:05It's summer's July
03:12I know you know
03:14Red off
03:16Red off
03:18Court starts in 15 minutes, so chop chop
03:22Oh, hey
03:24I was thinking of maybe switching things up a bit and switching seats
03:28The wind is blowing
03:30Uh, you would you can't because the seats were allocated
03:32Oh, I know. I was just thinking that maybe we could reallocate them
03:36This is the Supreme Court. It's not high school
03:38It's not high school
03:44A deep echo
03:50A strong appeal
03:52For that mystery
03:57I know
03:58No
03:59I need to swap seats with you
04:10Why?
04:11Um
04:12Because I want my period and
04:14What?
04:15And I need the air
04:16Right, yeah, well, look, I don't think we're supposed to
04:18Come on, please, it's really bad
04:20Oh, just
04:22Okay, no
04:23Just don't have too many details, okay?
04:33Um, hello?
04:35What?
04:36Mr. Lee
04:40When did you first meet Amanda Taylor?
04:43I met Amanda when she sent me a video pitch and a manuscript submission in 2020
04:50What was the manuscript about?
04:51It was about her father being the Cape Rock killer
04:56When my mother died, I found these newspaper clippings among her things
05:01Of the unsolved Cape Rock murders of Judith Donnelly and Susan Mead
05:10I believe that she thinks that my father murdered these girls too
05:14My book, My Father is the Cape Rock Killer
05:18Will expose the truth
05:24Were you interested in publishing?
05:26No
05:27Oh, but why?
05:28Why was that?
05:29It was all supposition
05:31Using what was already on the public record
05:33Except for a few interviews with her family
05:36I told her to come back when she had definitive proof that her father was the killer
05:41She would have to solve the crime, basically
05:44Otherwise it had no value
05:46Hmm
05:47Did you believe that Miss Taylor had given up on her book?
05:50I had no belief either way
05:52I didn't expect to hear from her again after the rejection
05:56What do you do with books that are rejected?
05:59Do you...
06:00Do you delete them?
06:02Not immediately
06:03They stay on file for 12 months
06:05I see
06:07Er...
06:08Joana, it's been brought to my attention that juror 183 and 105
06:12Are not sitting in their allocated place
06:16183 and 105
06:17Kindly move back to your assigned seats
06:19It's essential that all jurors remain in your allocated seats at all times
06:24Miss Lee, is Gia Pandit one of your authors?
06:35Yes, she's my top selling true crime writer
06:39Three books, over two million copies sold
06:43That's very impressive
06:45I imagine that the income stream from that would be absolutely critical
06:48To keep things afloat at a publishing house like your own
06:51Now what was she writing about in 2023?
06:54She was writing her own version of the 1968 Cape Rock murders
07:02The same crime as Miss Taylor
07:05Yes
07:06So, were you aware of Miss Taylor's suspicion that you had passed on her manuscript to Gia Pandit?
07:15Guilty
07:16It must make it very competitive to find new material for your books
07:21Yes, new crimes definitely
07:23But there are plenty of old crimes that haven't been mined yet
07:26I'm currently writing a book about an unsolved double murder
07:30That sounds very interesting
07:31Mmm
07:32Can you tell us more?
07:33Yeah, it's about the 1968 Cape Rock murders
07:35Oh wow
07:36I've got some new sources
07:37Including the families of the suspects who have never been willing to talk until now
07:42You've worked your magic on them
07:43I've made them inroads, yes
07:45And what they have to say is very interesting
07:48Who did you speak to?
07:50Uh, am I picking interest already?
07:53I just want to know how you made those inroads exactly
07:58No spoilers for my story
08:00We'll take questions at the end, thank you
08:02Yeah, but it's not your story, is it?
08:05Security
08:06No, just be honest and tell them how you made inroads with my family
08:11She stole my manuscript
08:13Yeah, that's what she mined
08:16Get her out of here please
08:18Mmm
08:19That's fine, I'm leaving
08:21Gia Pandit everyone
08:24Gia fucking Pandit
08:26She accused Gia of stealing her manuscript
08:30It happens all the time with new writers
08:32They think they're the only ones that can come up with their idea
08:36So, you have Amanda Taylor's manuscript on file
08:39And one of your writers, perhaps your most lucrative
08:42Begins a book on the same murders
08:45Using Amanda Taylor's family as a source
08:48Is that a coincidence, Mr. Lee?
08:50Gia is a prize-winning, best-selling journalist
08:54She had no need to steal anything
08:56Amanda's accusations of plagiarism are completely unfounded
09:00Did these accusations, as you call them, cause you any trouble?
09:05She might as well have screamed plagiarist and rung a fucking cowbell
09:08No one will listen to her, just ignore it
09:10Hard to ignore being defamed in front of an audience, Phil
09:13Don't waste that brilliant brain of yours worrying about this
09:17Just leave it with me and I will shut her up
09:19Good
09:21Will you just do it?
09:22I simply had my legal team issue Ms. Taylor with a concerns notice
09:28After you sent Ms. Taylor the concerns notice, did she stop?
09:34No
09:38So did you commence legal action?
09:41I can create drama, sir
09:43Or was it simply that her accusation
09:48That her accusations were actually true?
09:50No
09:51Jura 183, please, stay in your seat
10:00I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I can't, can't
10:05It seems one of our jurors is indisposed
10:09We'll adjourn while the jury officer establishes what's ailing her
10:18Hey
10:20Hey, babe, can I get you anything?
10:35You're fine, go with me
10:37I'm here if you need to talk, okay?
10:42What are you doing?
10:43What the, what is this?
10:44I'm just trying to help you
10:46You're okay
10:47No, no, no, no, no
10:49Trying to help you
10:50You keep ignoring me
10:51You're nice to be the next
10:52I don't understand why you are
10:53Just because I make another friend
10:55You've been icing me out all week
10:57You just sat a seat away from me
10:59And then you were a fucking liar on my note, on my notebook
11:02God
11:03The hell is about the witness
11:04Enough with the gaslighting, Jasmine
11:06I can't fucking, I can't fucking do this
11:08Woah, woah
11:13I'm so sorry, I was just trying to help
11:15I can, I can have it
11:16Go back to the jury room
11:17Gretel
11:19Gretel, take a, take a deep breath
11:21I can't breathe
11:22Yep, take a deep breath
11:23I can't
11:24Take a deep breath
11:28Slow breath
11:30Slow breath
11:32How, how, try, eat
11:34Wow
11:37Oh, please
11:43What was the holdup?
11:44I just got a call from the UK
11:45John Dalamore's taking a sudden leave of absence from work
11:49Where's he gone?
11:50The PI's searching now
11:54Oh, shit
11:55You okay?
11:56Yeah, um
11:57Yeah, make sure he finds me
11:59Beth
12:01Beth
12:02Where's Xavier?
12:04Beth
12:05Oh, he, he's okay
12:07Um, he called me to ask if I could get a message to you in court
12:10So I, I didn't want to interrupt
12:12So I just drove him myself
12:14No, it's fine
12:15We adjourned almost before we began, so thank you
12:18Oh, I mean, is everything alright about that?
12:20Have I missed anything?
12:21No, no, no
12:22And it's probably a godsend
12:23We need a little more time to find this John Dalamore fellow
12:26Okay, uh, do you want me, do you want me to stay?
12:28No, no
12:29You, you, you go home to Josie, alright?
12:31Okay
12:32Alright, bye
12:33Oh, Lord
12:38I'm fine, just a fucking idiot
12:42What happened to you?
12:44Recording in the shed and I just tripped over the dog
12:48If I can smash my head open
12:50I hope the dog's okay
12:52And, um, not too much damage to the shed
12:56My poor bugger, here
13:01Let me give you a hand
13:03Let me give you a hand
13:04That's fine
13:05Alright, give it to me
13:06I want to make sure they give you an MRI scan
13:08Dad, just let
13:09We're talking about the head here
13:10Let them do their job
13:11It's fine
13:12Alright
13:14Thank you for your concern
13:21You're welcome
13:22Right, um, date of birth
13:36Three
13:37Six
13:40Of
13:42Nin...
13:43Nin...
13:44Nin...
13:45Ninety-one
13:46How old am I?
13:47Nin-ninety-nin...
13:48Ninety-nin...
13:49It's ninety-two, isn't it?
13:51Is it?
13:52No, no I'm supposed to know this shit
13:54Oh, no, no
13:55It's a dementia ward, just a...
13:56That's the whole
13:57Oh, thanks man, that's very kind
13:58You're very kind.
14:05Jesus Christ.
14:14What time is it?
14:16Me?
14:18I guess this afternoon.
14:23Do you want to do something?
14:25I have to go to the club.
14:28Do you speak to what's-her-face?
14:40Yeah.
14:43She's not still mouthing off, is she, about the chat threads?
14:46No, but even if she was, no-one would believe her.
14:53So this is the only interaction you had?
14:56Yeah.
14:58Jasmine told me a different story.
15:02What did she say?
15:04She told me that you were rejected by her and her boyfriend
15:07and that you were accusing his club of a spiking incident as a kind of revenge.
15:11What?
15:12Sorry, that's bullshit. I'm not really sure why she would say that.
15:15She also said that you suggested calling each other Judy and Susie as a way around me.
15:21That was her idea. That was all her- sorry, this is really stupid. I need to go. This is a mistake. I can't be here. Please.
15:26Gretel, sit down, sit down.
15:28Look, she's twisted everything, okay? That is exactly why I didn't want to sit next to her this morning.
15:31She is making me look like I'm crazy.
15:33I want to hear your side of it. I just need you to sit down and tell me everything that's happened.
15:36Yeah, but you're not going to believe me, are you? Because she's gotten to you before I have.
15:40Gretel, believe it or not, I've met Jasmine's before. Now sit down.
15:46Sit.
15:53Hey.
15:54Hi.
15:55I'm sorry I didn't call before coming over. I just, um, I bring sustenance.
16:01My housemates, we had a party last night and there's plenty of leftovers, so...
16:06And Salma mentioned missing her mother's mirasata, so...
16:10Right.
16:11Salma isn't here, actually.
16:13Oh, um, but...
16:16Sorry, um, I don't have to come in. You can put this in the fridge and I can just go.
16:19No, come in. Please.
16:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:24What about Salma? How is she with her auntie?
16:27I haven't heard from... Do you want some water?
16:29Yes, please, thank you.
16:30The tap's good?
16:31The tap is fine.
16:32I've called her a few times, she doesn't pick up.
16:35Oh.
16:36But Elisa, her aunt, uh, she keeps me updated.
16:40Sometimes she reminds me, you know, that I'm not her real dad.
16:45But you are her real dad.
16:47Yeah.
16:49Hmm.
16:52How did you meet Salma's mom?
16:54I was teaching English in Malaysia.
16:57Oh.
16:58And, uh, we met there. She was a widow.
17:00And Salma was nine when we came to Australia.
17:05Huh.
17:09You're right.
17:11I am her dad.
17:13Yes, you are her dad.
17:17No, I think it's my phone.
17:19Maybe it's Salma.
17:20Yes, we're burning.
17:21You know, I can, I'll just...
17:22No, no, no, please.
17:24Just be a minute.
17:30Hmm.
17:37Hmm.
17:43Not Salma?
17:44No.
17:45No, it's the principal for the new public school in Chifton.
17:49Yes?
17:50I think I want to meet me.
17:53Really?
17:54I think I'm being headhunted.
17:55No, look.
17:56That is just amazing.
17:57That is a...
18:00Sorry.
18:01No, no, no.
18:06I think I'm going to go, okay?
18:08Um, I'll see you tomorrow.
18:11Yes.
18:12Yeah.
18:13Awesome.
18:14Congratulations.
18:16Really happy for you.
18:17Thanks for that.
18:18Anytime.
18:19Yeah.
18:20Bye.
18:21Bye.
18:26Hello.
18:28Hello.
18:29Hi.
18:30How are you doing?
18:31Good.
18:32How are you?
18:33I'm good. How was your night?
18:34Oh, so good.
18:35You look amazing.
18:36I went dancing.
18:37Oh, yeah.
18:38Dancing with who?
18:39With Mel.
18:40With Mel, huh?
18:41Yeah.
18:42Do you want to dance with me?
18:43Come on, sir.
18:44Dance with me.
18:45Now.
18:46Yes.
18:47Oh, baby, I mean, there's no...
18:48Yes, yes, yes.
18:49Oh, no, there's no music.
18:50Oh, can you sing me a song?
18:51Sing you a song?
18:52Yeah.
18:54To the...
18:56Can you sing me a different song?
18:58That's the only song I know, right?
18:59That's the only one I know, yes.
19:03Hey.
19:04Yes.
19:05I've had a really big day.
19:06I don't feel like dancing.
19:07Is that okay?
19:08Ugh.
19:09Fine.
19:12Ugh.
19:13Okay.
19:14What's that?
19:17Okay, I'm sorry.
19:18We're just...
19:19No, it's okay.
19:20I don't know.
19:21We're just in different places right now, too.
19:22Yep.
19:24You okay?
19:25Yep.
19:27Okay.
19:28What?
19:29I'm pregnant.
19:30I'm sorry.
19:31You're pregnant?
19:32Yep.
19:34Are you serious?
19:35Yeah.
19:36Yeah.
19:37Yeah.
19:38Yeah.
19:39Yeah.
19:40I know you're not really ready and...
19:43No, no, no, that's amazing.
19:44You're pregnant?
19:45Yes.
19:46That's amazing.
19:47That's amazing.
19:48That is...
19:49That's a lot of amazing.
19:50Are you happy?
19:51Yeah, yeah.
19:52Are you happy?
19:53Yeah, yeah.
19:54Oh, my God.
19:55That's...
19:56That's incredible.
19:57Are you okay, Drew?
20:00Oh.
20:01Oh.
20:02Oh.
20:03Oh.
20:04Oh.
20:05Oh.
20:06Oh.
20:07Oh.
20:08Oh.
20:09Oh.
20:10Oh.
20:11Oh.
20:12Oh.
20:13Oh.
20:14Oh.
20:15Oh.
20:16Oh.
20:17Oh.
20:18Oh.
20:19Oh.
20:20Oh.
20:21Oh.
20:22Oh.
20:27Oh, oh.
20:29Oh, oh.
20:31Oh.
20:32Oh.
20:33Oh.
20:43That's...
20:44That's actually amazing news.
20:48there's there's something that i need to tell you it's about leo
20:58yo what you doing oh just a bit of a walk and a sink before i go to work
21:12with huey huey come on good boy there's a good boy you should take it easy today yeah well i've just
21:23got a sound check later on do you mind if i come along to the sound check yeah as soon as i can't
21:29see the real thing sure yeah that'd be great all right i'll pick you up after work after yeah cool
21:42so
21:49so
21:54You know what this is about?
22:14I think the bolt from yesterday.
22:18Newsflash. Gen Z panic attack. Scuttle's trial.
22:24Gen Z.
22:26I'll tell you later.
22:30Can you explain this image to me?
22:33Juror 183 approached Mr. Fraser only to avoid compromising the trial,
22:37which she's now realised was not the best approach.
22:40Juror 131 was with 183 that night and took this photo.
22:44She brought it to me after they'd had a small clash.
22:49Is this clash resolved or can I expect more disruptions?
22:55I believe it's under control.
22:57Juror 183 has assured me there'll be no more incidents.
23:00Be that as it may, the jury should not be socialising together.
23:04I'll have the jury officer make that clear to them.
23:06I'll also reiterate that to them, Your Honour.
23:08Thank you, Madam Foreperson.
23:10We'll let the jury know when I've made my decision.
23:13You're free to go.
23:14Thank you, Your Honour.
23:16She seems sensible and thorough.
23:26I'm happy with her account.
23:29Any concerns, Counsel?
23:31None.
23:33None for me.
23:35Very well.
23:36Miss Nicholls, verify that there's been no other contact with your witness.
23:40He'll need to corroborate before we proceed.
23:43Of course, Your Honour.
23:44If you can tear him away from his latest press conference.
23:47Your Honour, I do believe that Mr. Fraser is in the building.
23:51He comes to court every day.
23:52Good.
23:53Call him in.
23:54Does anybody think Amanda might have been neurodivergent?
23:57For fuck's sake.
23:59No, I've been doing a bit of reading and she shows all the signs.
24:02It's really not appropriate to be diagnosing people we don't know with a disability.
24:05Is it a disability, though?
24:07Really?
24:08Yeah, it is.
24:09No, it's just like, you know, a mild social problem doesn't really-
24:13Mild.
24:14A social problem doesn't really rate on the same level as dealing with physical challenges.
24:18Yeah, so some prefer a differability.
24:20Well, ableism.
24:21Find a dollar for every child whose parents have told me that they were on the spectrum
24:25I'd be a rich man.
24:26Richer man.
24:28It's a plague.
24:29The vaccines are sending all the kids bonkers.
24:31Yeah, it's not vaccines bonkers.
24:33Is that problematic?
24:34Nobody ever heard of panic attacks until this generation.
24:36Holy and rubella shots were all we had when I was a kid.
24:39Okay.
24:40Okay.
24:41Sorry.
24:42I-I can't partake in this anti-vax rhetoric, so for my mental health I'll be-I'll be outside.
24:49Blake, you-you started this.
24:51I didn't start anything.
24:52No, no, I'm asking you genuinely, please explain, Blake.
24:56What makes you think Amanda Taylor was neurodivergent?
25:00Well, her-her own boyfriend said she was odd, and the way she-she rubbed people up the wrong way.
25:06Right, so it was the victim's fault for getting herself murdered?
25:08No, that's not what he was saying.
25:10No, it was what he was saying.
25:11Even if she was a little socially awkward, at least she wasn't a fucking narcissist.
25:17Now, those people, they're really fucking awful.
25:20Oh, shit!
25:22Since, since when are we talking about narcissists?
25:25Hey, how come anyone can't express their opinion anymore without-without getting their head bitten off?
25:29Because no one asked for your opinion, Blake.
25:30Just shut up.
25:31Is it out there?
25:32What?
25:33Your sanity.
25:34They're nuts.
25:35I know.
25:36I know.
25:37I know.
25:38You, uh, you okay?
25:39Yeah.
25:40About last night?
25:41Yeah.
25:42Yeah?
25:43Good.
25:44You?
25:45Oh, yeah.
25:46Fantastic.
25:47Maybe we can, uh, um, you know, think about it again.
25:48Maybe.
25:49I'll take it.
25:50I'll take it.
25:51Oh, she's not.
25:52She's crying over what I said.
25:53No, that's not why she's crying.
25:54She's crying over what I said.
25:55No, that's not why she's crying.
25:56Okay?
25:57Okay?
25:58Yeah.
25:59Yeah.
26:00About last night?
26:01Yeah.
26:02Yeah?
26:03Good.
26:04You?
26:05Oh, yeah.
26:06Fantastic.
26:07Maybe we can, uh, um, you know, think about it again.
26:12Maybe.
26:13I'll take it.
26:16Oh, she's not.
26:17She's crying over what I said.
26:18No, that's not why she's crying.
26:19You guys are all so fucked up.
26:20Being on this jury is so toxic.
26:21You're all a bunch of losers.
26:22Yeah.
26:23What does that mean?
26:24Bitch, turn the fuck out.
26:25Yeah.
26:26Yeah.
26:27Yeah.
26:28Yeah.
26:29Yeah.
26:30Yeah.
26:31Yeah.
26:32Yeah.
26:33Yeah.
26:34Yeah.
26:35Yeah.
26:36Yeah.
26:37Yeah.
26:38Yeah.
26:39Yeah.
26:40Yeah.
26:41Yeah.
26:42Yeah.
26:43Yeah.
26:44Yeah.
26:45Yeah.
26:46Yeah.
26:47Yeah.
26:48Yeah, yeah.
26:52Yeah.
26:53Yeah, yeah.
26:56Yeah.
26:58Yeah.
26:59Yeah.
27:00Yeah.
27:03No, no, no.
27:05Okay, guys, guys, shut up.
27:11I'd like to clear the air about recent events because I know that you're all curious and
27:23concerned. But Judge West has made a decision that we are going forward and the details
27:29are not up for discussion. She knows and we don't. I'm sorry Blake, is there something
27:33you want to share? No, no, no, no, no, no. You're the one holding back Sharon. Blake,
27:37Blake. Sharon is doing a good job. You know the role of foreperson isn't a real job. The
27:44only difference between you and us is you deliver the verdict. I don't want to be in
27:48this position. If anyone else in this room would like to put up their hand and take over,
27:55be my guest. Anyone? We were this close to a mistrial. Going forward, I am proposing a
28:04total ban on juror interaction outside of court. Do we agree? Do we agree? Yes. Good.
28:25Oh, right. Sorry. Sorry. Excuse me. I need a coffee. Do you want one? What is with those
28:33two? I was on it to hold Sharon everything and now they're acting like buddy-buddy. It's
28:39weird.
28:44I've given up smoking. Same. Thank you.
29:14By the way.
29:18There's nothing to thank me for. Someone has to be the bad guy.
29:23You saw nothing. You all right, Alan? They're fucking morons. What do you think the judge
29:50will say? Well, fortunately in this instance, Vincent Fraser confirmed the girl's story,
29:58but Judge West could swing either way. I have no idea. Jesus. If they buggered it, it means
30:05I'll spend two years. I'll spend two years in lockup waiting for another trial.
30:11We're back on.
30:13What?
30:14We recommend scene 15.
30:17Well, there's good news.
30:18We appreciate the sacrifice each of you have made to be here. The court knows this task
30:27places a burden on your personal lives, which is why so many make outlandish excuses to avoid
30:33it. You're here because you have accepted the call to do your civic duty and should be approached
30:40with diligence and dedication. Your voice determines the future of the defendant.
30:49The evidence and arguments presented in this court should remain your only focus,
30:56no matter how distracting interpersonal dynamics may be.
30:59What do you see and hear matters? Your presence in this court matters. Is that understood?
31:13Yes, Your Honor. Thank you. Shall we proceed?
31:18Miss Padgett, when did you first meet Amanda Toney?
31:48Miss Padgett Taylor. In January 2023, during a writer's convention.
31:55And what was the nature of your contact on that occasion?
31:59My dear, you should really sign some more books before we leave.
32:02I can't stay any longer. I don't feel safe.
32:04Oh, dear. Can you please sign this?
32:06Thanks for your support. Thank you so much.
32:10You should know that I have spoken to a lawyer.
32:14I think you've got your wise quest.
32:16No, I have grounds to sue for copyright infringement, idea theft.
32:19Idea theft. The Cape Rock case is on public record.
32:22It's my angle. He gave you my manuscript.
32:25Oh, I have nothing more to say to you.
32:29Hi.
32:31Answer me this, then.
32:32How did you know who to speak to in my family?
32:35They're not on public record, as you put it.
32:39You wouldn't even know who they are.
32:44Thief!
32:50Thanks.
32:51Smile.
32:52Ah!
32:53Amanda confronted me about her rejected manuscript.
32:57She was very inappropriate and aggressive.
33:00Aggrieved, too, I would imagine.
33:03Are you aware of the mystery nexus interview with Amanda Taylor in early 2023?
33:09I am.
33:10But I'm currently pursuing a legal suit against the writer, Gia Pandit.
33:16I'm not going to sit back and let her take credit for my hard work.
33:22She is a liar and a thief.
33:26Did Amanda Taylor's accusations have an effect, do you think, on your reputation?
33:31She isn't someone people would take seriously, so, no.
33:37Not taken seriously, but nevertheless brutally murdered.
33:41Were those allegations substantive enough to make you angry?
33:51No.
33:52I wasn't angry.
33:54It was water for duck's back, to me.
33:56In March 2023, were you interviewed on Cold Cases Unpacked?
34:07Yes.
34:08Play Exhibit 21, please.
34:10So, moving on from your previous work.
34:12Earlier this year, you announced the title of your new book, Cape Rock Killing.
34:16Oh, I'd rather talk about something else, if that's all right.
34:19It must be tricky, right, given that this new up-and-coming writer, Amanda Taylor, has accused you of copyright theft, of plagiarism, and made legal threats against you.
34:29Look, I've responded to those claims in the appropriate forum.
34:34This woman wants to spread lies about me.
34:38It's her funeral.
34:41Would you say you were angry in that interview?
34:43No, I was annoyed with a lazy interviewer regurgitating irrelevant questions and not respecting my requests.
34:50Not because the allegations were correct.
34:53Now, let me...
34:54You say, I want to get this right, it's her funeral.
34:58Is that a threat, by the way?
35:01It was a figure of speech.
35:03Meaning, if she continued spreading malicious lies about me, she would suffer the legal consequences.
35:10My publisher took action.
35:12That is incorrect.
35:13Your publisher took no action.
35:15Did that make you angry?
35:16No.
35:18Amanda Taylor was a nobody in the publishing world.
35:21Her opinions were immaterial.
35:23Nobody, and yet brutally murdered.
35:26Do you consider yourself ambitious, Miss Pandit?
35:29In a healthy way, yes.
35:32You were described in a crime fiction interview by a fellow author, James Morrow, as a viciously ambitious sociopath.
35:39Do you know why Mr. Morrow claims that you are viciously sociopathic?
35:43Morrow's bitter.
35:45He's had it in for me ever since I won the Ned Kelly for Best True Crime, and he didn't.
35:50As an ambitious writer, would you stop at nothing to ensure that your reputation remained unblemished?
35:56Anything I would do would be through legal means only.
36:00So, finally, on her death, Miss Taylor is silent.
36:06When you heard about her death, how did you feel?
36:09I felt terrible.
36:10No one should have to die that way.
36:13Are you writing a book about this case?
36:14No.
36:24Why not?
36:26I'm a witness in the trial.
36:29Her public hatred of me, many reasons.
36:33It would be tasteless to capitalise on her story.
36:36Tasteless, I agree.
36:37Exhibit 42, please.
36:39Now, this was captured on CCTV during this very trial outside this very courthouse.
36:47What were you doing out there?
36:48Observing, writing.
36:49I do it a lot.
36:50Writing, yes, in a notebook.
36:52If the court subpoenaed that notebook, would we find references in there to anything pertaining
36:57to Miss Taylor, or indeed to this case?
37:00Yes.
37:01In case there's more to it in the future, but that doesn't mean I'll write a book about it.
37:05Right, so you can't rule out the possibility that you might capitalise in the future on
37:10Miss Taylor's death.
37:11What I said is true.
37:13In case there's more to it...
37:14Yes or no, Miss Bandit, can you rule out writing a book about Miss Taylor?
37:18No.
37:20No.
37:21Now, would it be even more helpful for a crime writer to experience a murder at first hand?
37:27Oh, objection, Your Honour.
37:29My learned colleague is pushing his case theory beyond the bounds.
37:34I agree, Miss Nicholls.
37:35Upheld.
37:36My apologies, Your Honour.
37:38Um, exhibit 43, please.
37:42Miss Bandit, would you be good enough to read the highlighted section for the court, please?
37:48Uh, we know batterers suffocate their victims.
37:51In order to silence them, they may cover the victim's mouth or nose with their hands, a pillow
37:55or a plastic bag.
37:58Where did this extract come from?
38:00From a published article online, which I quoted in my book.
38:05And you used this quote to explain the psychology of suffocation, yes?
38:09Yes.
38:10Killers suffocate their victims in order to silence them.
38:16Did you use a plastic bag to suffocate Miss Taylor in order to silence her?
38:22No.
38:22I did nothing of the kind.
38:23Your Honour.
38:24Mr. Colby.
38:25No more questions, Your Honour.
38:33Your witness, Miss Nicholls.
38:38Miss Bandit.
38:38In 2014, you were involved in a legal dispute with, uh, Jane York over your book, Deaths
38:46of a Rose.
38:46Is that correct?
38:47Yes.
38:48She claimed I stole material from her.
38:50She was very vocal about it on her podcast.
38:53Did she make similar public accusations as Amanda Taylor?
38:56She was more creative about it, but yes.
38:59I'll read.
39:01Gia Pandit is a thief and a fraud who has a pathological aversion to the truth.
39:07Miss Pandit, is that what Miss York said about you in her podcast?
39:11That and a whole lot more.
39:12I see.
39:13And, and how, how was this case resolved?
39:16I sued for defamation and we settled out of court.
39:19And in light of that, what is your relationship with Miss York like now?
39:23Objection, Your Honour.
39:24I failed to see the relevance of my learned colleague's line of questioning.
39:27Miss Nicholls?
39:28Your Honour, Mr. Colby appears to be putting the witness on trial.
39:31If Miss Pandit has experienced similar altercations as she did with Miss Taylor in the past, then
39:36it provides context and perspective.
39:39I like that answer, Miss Nicholls.
39:41The state may continue.
39:43Thank you, Your Honour.
39:44Miss Pandit, what is your relationship with Miss York like now?
39:47We're on good terms.
39:48It was a long time ago and eventually she realised several people could be working on the same
39:52story.
39:53It happens.
39:54I'm sure Amanda Taylor would have come to the same conclusion.
39:56given time.
39:58I'm sure.
40:00Miss Pandit, just to be crystal clear, after your altercations with Miss York, you did
40:07not murder her, did you?
40:09No, I didn't.
40:14Thank you for your help, Miss Pandit.
40:16No further questions, Your Honour.
40:25So where do you think our johns fled to?
40:28Oh, Cayman Islands.
40:30That's helpful.
40:31Bess?
40:32Bess?
40:34Everything all right?
40:35Yeah.
40:36Um, yeah, but I did think I should mention that, um, on my call with Alan last night, he,
40:44um, he, he brought up that he's concerned that we're a bit close since, since he's been
40:51in remand.
40:52Fuck's sake.
40:52Mm.
40:53Um, yeah.
40:56He's, he's isolated.
40:59Well, it happens.
41:00Yeah.
41:01It's the trial, he's going out of his mind.
41:03Yeah, well, he's not the only one.
41:05I'm still bloody angry.
41:06Oh, God.
41:11For fuck's sake, who's going to believe the crime writer did it?
41:14I mean, I mean, take a look at her.
41:16She doesn't look the type.
41:18What were you thinking?
41:20Actually, there is no type.
41:28You think I'm the best suspect, don't you?
41:30You are the best suspect, Alan, and that is why you are on trial, and that is why I broke
41:40poor Nina's back, tracking down John Delamore.
41:43You've just got to work fucking harder.
41:49I am doing everything I can, and you need to start getting your shit together.
41:56You need to start thinking straight, and you need to start trusting people.
42:00Do you understand me?
42:12So this is what I said.
42:14Okay.
42:15There's no pressure to come home right away.
42:18When you're ready to talk, I'll be here.
42:21Love, comma, dad.
42:25Full stop.
42:27Do you think it's good?
42:28Mm-hmm.
42:29Mm-hmm.
42:30She'll respond, if I can.
42:31Oh, she may not respond right away, but I'm sure she will eventually.
42:38All right.
42:39Yeah.
42:40So let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
42:42Okay?
42:43You can be my proofreader.
42:46Sure.
42:47I'm an expert.
42:48I can do that.
42:50Yeah.
42:50Mm-hmm.
42:51You're writing a book on Amanda Taylor.
43:02I can't wait to read that.
43:04Piss off, Phil.
43:19Touchy.
43:20My next book's about a crime writer who murdered a fucking publisher.
43:25Gold.
43:26Gold.
43:35Nina.
43:36Hey.
43:36Nina.
43:37Nina.
43:37Nina.
43:37Um, when you said it's not promising about John, what do you mean?
43:44We don't have John.
43:46Full stop.
43:47No, John.
43:58They don't have a witness.
44:00They're dead in the water.
44:01Yes.
44:03High five, whatever.
44:05All right.
44:07Let's get our closing address singing, Charlie boy.
44:11Can you please stop calling me Charlie boy?
44:13No.
44:21Tiggs?
44:27Tiggs?
44:40I was expecting your signature sorry working late text.
45:08No, not today.
45:10Is there anything you're taking?
45:11Yeah, the rest is in here.
45:16Brett Colby?
45:18Yes.
45:19I'm John Dallimore.
45:22John Dallimore?
45:27Xavier, why don't you take the car?
45:28I'll meet you there, all right?
45:31Sure.
45:33I hope I haven't come at a bad time.
45:35No, it's, uh, it's a good time, John.
45:38I'll meet you.
45:51No, no, no.
46:01No.
46:02No!
46:04No!
46:04No!
46:05No!
46:05Help!
46:06Help!
46:07Help!
46:08Help!
46:09Help!
46:10Alan, no!
46:35I've always loved it so much than I can, every day.
46:46You may not be interested in supervisingkgs changing.
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