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Unlocked Family Secrets Season 1 Episode 1

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00:00We are a church who believe in Jesus Christ!
00:07I was the first lady of a mega church, and we had it all.
00:12The big house, fancy cars, and a loyal congregation.
00:17But everything that glitters ain't always gold.
00:21And we were hiding a big secret.
00:23We have this perfect marriage, worship life, and family life.
00:30We were a classic American, black, Christian family.
00:34Wait, what? Paul.
00:36He did what?
00:38I had to hone in on my secrecy skills and lie.
00:43We were just all beaten up by the trauma of it all.
00:48The secret broke us.
00:50Lydia lost everything that she had.
00:55Secrets are poison.
00:57And they will kill you.
01:00I just can't believe Mother has all these pictures of my family.
01:16I know.
01:17I'm Lydia Meredith, published author, pastor, luminary, activist.
01:22I'm a mother of three magnificent sons.
01:26I have six grandchildren.
01:30That's Dennis and I riding a motorcycle together.
01:33Oh, man.
01:36You all are such a beautiful couple.
01:38When I think about my life, my faith has always been my driving force.
01:44And the church has always been my refuge.
01:48But it's also a place where I learned that deep secrets and keeping them is what's expected.
01:55I was born in 1952 in Macon, Georgia.
02:03That was when the civil rights movement was just beginning to start.
02:08But still, Jim Crow was a reality.
02:11I had five older siblings and four younger.
02:17We didn't have a social life except for church.
02:21Wednesday was Bible study.
02:23Friday was singing, choir rehearsal, and Sunday was church.
02:27I was always so narrowly focused on being everything my dad wanted me to be, because that was my hero.
02:37My father didn't go any further than the third grade.
02:41So he wanted all of his children to be very well educated.
02:47My mother was the disciplinary.
02:49If you did something you weren't supposed to do, then, you know, you just expect a real beating.
02:58So I was like the perfect kid, because my goal was to make straight A's and not get a beating.
03:09Lydia was the smartest sister, ambitious.
03:15She got a scholarship to Vanderbilt.
03:22In 73, I had finished my engineering program.
03:27In 1975, I had earned my master's.
03:31Life was moving perfectly according to plan.
03:35I moved to Birmingham, Alabama to start a new job, and I had a serious boyfriend.
03:41And then he wrote me that Dear John letter explaining he wasn't ready to make a commitment.
03:48I was devastated.
03:50After I got that letter, that's when I heard an inner kind of spirit voice say,
03:58Dennis Meredith is going to be your husband.
04:02Dennis was the youth pastor at Sardis Baptist Church, where I sang in the choir.
04:09I saw Lydia for the first time, it would be back in 1977, and I was attending Sardis Baptist Church.
04:21I had seen him, we had hung out.
04:23I was never interested in him.
04:25But every mother that had a single daughter was in his face, because Dennis could dress.
04:32Lydia was not first lady material.
04:37Lydia was very loud.
04:39She came to church, oftentimes with raggedy jeans on.
04:43But she was pretty, you know, and she had some pretty legs.
04:48I wasn't paying him no attention, because I made more money than him.
04:53My mother had taught us to marry up.
04:56And I knew he wasn't making what I wanted him to make.
04:59But then the voice said, you're going to marry Dennis.
05:04Over time, I started seeing Dennis in an entirely new light.
05:10And I bought a nice house.
05:12On the corner lot in a white neighborhood.
05:15She has a housewarming.
05:17So she invited me over.
05:18You guys came to my housewarming.
05:23Remember?
05:23I remember I came with Dennis.
05:24And Dennis was at the housewarming.
05:27Y'all interrogated him.
05:28Said, don't you like my daughter?
05:30Embarrassing.
05:33And so her mother looked at me.
05:35She said, Lydia, this man is a nice.
05:37You might think about marrying him.
05:39And I was like, oh, shoot.
05:43We were friends.
05:44We had someone.
05:44We just hanging out.
05:45And then I had that voice.
05:48I heard something.
05:49I don't know what it was.
05:50I know.
05:50And look at us right now.
05:53A match made in heaven.
05:59Then one night, he came over to fix my television.
06:03And I fixed him something to eat.
06:06When I tell you that woman could cook, do you hear me?
06:10I'll never get she fried me some fish.
06:12Well, I got through and I said, hmm, I better marry her.
06:17And we just started dating.
06:20My family loved her.
06:22My mother was like, Dennis, you got to marry this girl.
06:25To my surprise, he said, Lydia, I think we need to pray about getting married.
06:34But later, he said, I changed my mind.
06:36I think it's too early.
06:39I said, all right, bye.
06:42I went home and I started praying.
06:45I said, God, if this is not supposed to happen, just take these feelings away.
06:51Honey, when I got up off my knees, Dennis was knocking on my door.
06:54I don't believe in premarital sex because the Bible say this.
07:03But that night, we kind of did the do, you know.
07:07She was the best I'd ever had.
07:14After that, we prayed all weekend.
07:17And then, I do recall doing the one knee and, you know, just saying, let's get married.
07:24I want to marry you.
07:27We were married in December of 78.
07:32Everybody named Mama came.
07:35The church gave me the most beautiful wedding you had ever seen.
07:39She loved Dennis.
07:42They were just inseparable.
07:44We made the decision to have children immediately.
07:51And Taylor was born in November of 1979.
07:57Child, me and my son.
07:59Oh, we were together everywhere.
08:01I was just so happy.
08:05And then, Mikey was born in February 1981.
08:11Then, Dennis got his first church.
08:14Mount Zion Baptist Church.
08:17We still in the honeymoon stage with two babies.
08:20And the sex was amazing.
08:22He was an amazing dad.
08:24It was the best years of my life.
08:26I had the marriage and home life I'd always imagined.
08:31Until one night in 1983.
08:34We went to a choir rehearsal or some church event.
08:38I'm exhausted working all day.
08:41And I went to bed.
08:43I was at church.
08:45And when I left, something said, you know, go home.
08:50I didn't go home.
08:50Two o'clock in the morning, I get this call.
08:56Your husband has been arrested.
08:59I couldn't believe you.
09:02Arrested for what?
09:03Dennis and I, we had this perfect marriage and family life.
09:13And out of the clear blue sky, I get a call about two o'clock in the morning that Dennis
09:18was arrested.
09:20I couldn't believe you.
09:21Not my husband.
09:24It was on a Monday night in the summer of 1983.
09:28I was thinking, how am I going to get out of this?
09:31What am I going to do to hide this?
09:34So I called my neighbor next door and asked her to come over and watch the kids.
09:38So I went downtown to pick Dennis up.
09:42I didn't want to call Lydia.
09:44I think part of that was motivating.
09:46Let me get out of this.
09:47Go home.
09:47And she would never know.
09:50But the police called Lydia.
09:52When I walked into that police station, he had his head hung down and he was in tears.
10:04The policeman said he was in a theater and he solicited a planted male police officer.
10:15It was entrapment, but, you know, I shouldn't have been there.
10:18That didn't make sense to me because he was all over me.
10:22And he seemed like he was happy with the sex.
10:26I didn't even know what solicited meant until afterwards.
10:30I was brokenhearted.
10:32I was humiliated.
10:33And so I just shut it out.
10:42And then Lydia bailed me out.
10:45I expected outrage.
10:47But her response was, it's like she dismissed it, like buried it.
10:56He cries the entire ride from the police station to the house, and I was silent the entire time.
11:04And so I went to bed, and I had stopped speaking to him.
11:09My first thought was that I didn't want to lose my marriage or my children.
11:15That was always a forefront.
11:18And then we said he was sorry.
11:22And I'd never do it again.
11:23And I believed him.
11:26So I was willing to say, hey, that's over now.
11:29I didn't want to ever confront this painful experience again.
11:33Because Dennis was pastor at Mount Zion Baptist Church.
11:36We didn't want it to get out that he was involved in a scandal.
11:41Had I gotten exposed, they probably would just, you know, voting me out of the church.
11:47But she covered.
11:48She never said anything.
11:50Dennis continued to pastor at the church.
11:53But soon he started telling me he wanted a change of scenery and a fresh start.
11:59He decided he wanted to go to seminary.
12:02So he put in applications for seminaries.
12:06He was a gifted preacher.
12:08And so he could go wherever he wanted to go.
12:10But he decided he wanted to move to California on all places.
12:15I said, oh my God, he wants to go across the country.
12:19I wanted to get the hell up out of there and go to California.
12:23In some respects, I was running from what had happened.
12:29After the move to California in late 1983, Dennis and I got our groove back.
12:36And while he was still in seminary, he got an offer to become a pastor at Mount Calvary Baptist Church in Oakland.
12:45I was going to work for Pacific Gas and Electric Company.
12:48Dennis was excited about rebuilding his ministry life there.
12:51After we got there, you know, Lydia had Eddie.
12:54Then Dennis got a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go on a month-long missionary trip to Africa.
13:06He came back really excited about ministry.
13:08And he tells me about opportunities for him to go to different churches and preach.
13:13And he would travel with these pastors all over the place.
13:17Over the next several years, even though he was in and out, Dennis was a model pastor, an attentive husband, and a loving father.
13:29My parents were the perfect complement to each other.
13:32I saw a lot of love between the both of them, especially my mother towards my father.
13:37We were just tight-knit, extremely affectionate.
13:40There was never any tension.
13:41We had weathered the storm until one Saturday in 1991.
13:55I remember one day, I go out in the garage, and I find a video.
14:03And it's a video of men having sex with men.
14:07And I am in shock.
14:13What is this?
14:14Where did this come from?
14:16Why is this in my house?
14:20Lydia puts this video in my face.
14:24What is this?
14:25She's angry, too.
14:28And so I said, it's a porn video.
14:30I like to look at porn.
14:33And she said, but you're a preacher.
14:34And so I told her how I looked at porn all my life.
14:40Cognitively, there was a connection.
14:43From when he behaved that way eight years ago, when he was arrested, obviously there was a connection.
14:50And I was upset.
14:53We argued all day, all night.
14:58And so we got up normal Sunday morning, went to church.
15:06You know, I'm not confrontational.
15:08But something in me just said, tell the truth.
15:12That Monday morning, I called her on a job.
15:16And I said, Lydia, if you're willing and ready, I'm going to tell you everything.
15:21I had come home from work.
15:28I was nervous because I still didn't have any answers.
15:33We retreat for the evening, you know.
15:37He sits on this orange chair that's in our bedroom.
15:43He said, I'm bisexual.
15:44And I told her everything.
15:49My sexuality, the infidelity, the sex with men, all of it.
15:57I let him finish talking.
16:00I didn't interrupt him at all.
16:03He had been doing the entire marriage.
16:06I was ready to collapse.
16:10And I'm thinking, she's going to divorce me.
16:14He said to me, it's just sex, and I love you, and I want my family.
16:23And I believed him.
16:29Lydia says, we'll get therapy.
16:32We'll figure it out, because I'm not going to divorce you.
16:35And because I wanted my family, and I wanted my marriage, I said, yes, okay, we will figure
16:42this out.
16:44I listened to this Christian radio broadcast, and they were talking about conversion therapy.
16:52I said, oh my God, I can't believe I'm hearing this.
16:55And I told Dennis about it.
16:59And we researched this organization called Merrimerth and Meyer Clinic in Los Angeles.
17:04After a week in the clinic, they come to me and say, um, well, since you have such a high
17:16sex drive, we want to give you something that's going to curb that, take away, you know, that
17:22desire.
17:24I'm like, what the hell is this?
17:26I called Lydia.
17:29I said, just forget it, because, I mean, we enjoy our sex, so just come home, Dennis.
17:33They gave me a list of therapists when I checked out.
17:41So we picked a therapist who was not in our area.
17:44And so she diagnosed me as a workaholic, and she called him a sex addict.
17:54We agreed to do the work for the sake of our marriage and our family.
18:00So I focused on my work-life balance.
18:03And Dennis promised to stop having sex outside of our relationship.
18:09I tried to be better as a wife and as a mother.
18:15Every week, we would go out, just the two of us, and have quality time together.
18:21But Dennis would tell the therapist I didn't give him enough sex.
18:25And I said, oh my God, how much sex does he want?
18:29The therapist tells us, do not judge his addiction, because addiction is addiction is addiction.
18:35And we go to her for about a year.
18:41It was at that point that I said to myself, I'm a bisexual man, and to hell with all it is trying to get rid of it.
18:54And so I knew I violated her trust.
18:58What's interesting is people demonize the cheater, and they think you don't feel.
19:03Well, that's not true.
19:05When you love somebody, you hurt like they hurt.
19:08I was just a hoe.
19:11I just continued to do what I was.
19:13But I didn't say anything to Lydia, because she thought that I had changed.
19:19He hid it.
19:20It was nothing in me that made me think that he wanted anything different than to be with me and save his family.
19:32I didn't see anything else except a faithful husband and a great father.
19:37I believed in our marriage, and I believed that he could stay faithful.
19:44So I was determined to make sure our skeletons remained hidden and that everything appeared to be normal.
19:52My mom worked a lot.
19:55You know, my dad, most of the time, was at home with us.
19:58He did a lot of the cooking, a lot of the helping with homework.
20:03It was the classic American Christian family.
20:07We prayed before our dinners.
20:09We went on family trips.
20:11Our parents were extremely affectionate towards each other.
20:15We knew they were in love.
20:16I didn't know at the time, but rumors started to spread throughout our church family like a wildfire.
20:29One Sunday, this girl comes up to me and says,
20:32Your husband is a hypocrite.
20:35I saw him with such and such and such, and he was clearly effeminate.
20:41I said, Well, I promise you, he's not a hypocrite.
20:43And I didn't entertain that any further.
20:48And I remember this one lady came up to me, and she said,
20:51They say, You're a homosexual?
20:52We ain't never had no homosexuals in this church until you got here.
20:57Everybody knows the musician, the chairman of the trustee board,
21:01the president of the choir.
21:02They were gay.
21:03But, you know, I just kind of shrugged her off.
21:05I said, Oh, well, I didn't know nobody was gay in this church.
21:08And I walked away.
21:09For me, it was solving the problem.
21:12My focus, my vision, always goes to how to fix it, how to make it work, how to succeed, how to win, how to get what I want.
21:22That's the way I am.
21:25We shut down all the talk immediately.
21:31And I'm going to make right here and right now work for us and going forward.
21:36I don't care what you tell me.
21:38You're not going to sit here and talk about my husband.
21:41With the gossip surrounding Dennis at the church, I didn't know what to believe about him and his relationship with men.
21:56I know they would have put me out because they were totally against same-sex love.
22:03If I get exposed, it's not going to be good.
22:07By 1994, Dennis and I left Mount Calvary Baptist and the rumors behind in Oakland.
22:14This was about our family, and there were better opportunities for all of us in Georgia.
22:19So we moved across the country.
22:22We got a call about Tabernacle Baptist Church having a vacancy in Atlanta, Georgia.
22:28So they invited us to come.
22:32God has no picks and choosers.
22:35God loves everybody!
22:36And that was the first time I worked with my husband.
22:42I started to be the church administrator.
22:46His income was tied to the growth of the church.
22:49But when we first started, there were so many empty seats.
22:53You could throw a football and wouldn't hit one person.
22:56After that first sermon, the word got out.
23:00The tabernacle had a new pastor under new leadership.
23:06When we first got here, it was the first Sunday of April.
23:09It was on the Easter.
23:10Yeah!
23:11But you know, my sermon, I'd always preach when I got a new church, was moving forward.
23:16Right, right.
23:16And this congregation, we grew this church.
23:20You had people in the aisles.
23:21Dennis tore up that church.
23:27Women was going crazy.
23:30I mean, it was pandemonium.
23:33And before you know it, you couldn't find a seat.
23:38I grew the church from probably 120 people to maybe 800 and something.
23:46Over the next few years, our church thrived.
23:54And our family seemed stronger than ever.
23:56It felt like the troubles Dennis and I had were finally behind us.
24:01And then, as he began to feel himself, his power, he started to abuse it.
24:10Doing anything and everything he wanted to do.
24:12He just went berserk.
24:16Coming in late.
24:18Staying out all night.
24:21I did not know that he was still doing what he had promised me he wasn't going to do.
24:28And then, one day, he told me he had gonorrhea.
24:32And I needed to go get myself checked out.
24:35And I was like, are you kidding me?
24:38I know she was pissed as hell.
24:44And so, you know, I was broken.
24:47And then I had to figure out, you know, what do I do now?
24:52I did not think about how his behavior could create a scandal.
24:59The fear was around the family, keeping the family together.
25:02Because family was number one for us.
25:05It wasn't the church wasn't number one.
25:07The family was number one.
25:09Once again, Dennis promised to be faithful.
25:13Looking back, it's hard to understand why I believed him.
25:16But we agreed to continue working on our relationship.
25:20Then he decided to build me my dream house.
25:23To me, that was the ultimate expression of commitment to our future.
25:33It took about two or three years to do that.
25:37And that absorbed my disappointment, my attention, and all of that.
25:45The home was completed in 1998.
25:51It was a seven-bedroom house, five bathrooms.
25:55I mean, we were making good money.
25:58Big home, Mercedes cars.
26:03It was the life.
26:05Our parents would take us on a family trip every year.
26:10Whether it was to the beach, or to the cabins, or to go skiing.
26:16But, yeah, like, we were really, really close.
26:19At the time, I just don't remember my parents doing a lot of going back and forth in front of us as children.
26:26Or being privy to, you know, marital issues.
26:31Even though there was harmony, I was consumed by the idea that someone would learn Dennis' past and blow up our lives.
26:43Then I found out we weren't the only ones in the family keeping a secret.
26:49Mikey comes home from school.
26:53He's a freshman at Shorter College.
26:55It was on his birthday, Mikey comes in the kitchen, he says something I want to tell, you know, you and Mom.
27:02And he tells us that he was gay.
27:05And I was just shocked.
27:08It was in 2000.
27:09I was 19 when I came out the closet to my parents.
27:12I knew he was different from when he was born.
27:15But when he announced he was gay, I was devastated.
27:19In the summer of 2000, the Meredith family experienced our latest secret.
27:28When my son, Micah, came out.
27:31He just announced it and walked out.
27:33Didn't give us time to discuss it or anything.
27:36I said, you know, big deal to me.
27:38In my mind, I thought, you don't have to be like me.
27:40Don't be like me.
27:42Follow your conviction of being gay and just be.
27:45But Lydia was not open to it.
27:47I was afraid because I was over the HIV ministry at the church.
27:55And I had seen men dying.
27:58I had seen boys dying.
28:00And I knew that he was at risk.
28:04I didn't even think about Dennis and HIV.
28:07And that's the strangest thing.
28:09I never thought that I could get HIV.
28:12But I thought about my baby and HIV.
28:17I hadn't been out of the closet a year.
28:20And then I contracted there.
28:22I was 20.
28:27I was in Florida.
28:28And Dennis calls me.
28:30And he tells me that Mikey is HIV positive.
28:33I took the next plane back to Atlanta.
28:35And I was there within a couple of hours.
28:40And his daddy is crying.
28:42I'm crying.
28:43His brothers are crying.
28:46He was really scared.
28:47I was pretty scared, too.
28:49But I just felt like in that moment, I could tell my brother, we're going to find a way for this to be okay.
28:56That was one of the most horrific points in my life.
29:01But I believed God was going to save my son.
29:05You know, my mom was like, you're going to live.
29:08You're going to be okay.
29:09Even though that we had medicines and stuff like that, at that point, I still was thinking, you know, I'm going to die.
29:18It took me about four years to where I wanted to live and to where I felt like I can have a good life.
29:28It was a moment of reckoning.
29:32My son was living his truth.
29:35But for nearly 20 years, Dennis and I had been hiding ours.
29:39And now, our kids were having to face the gossip about his double life.
29:45The image of our perfect family was cracking.
29:50I started to hear things about my father being promiscuous.
29:55You hear people, they say things like, yeah, your daddy was in the park.
30:01I was like, what?
30:03What's the park?
30:04They be in that bathroom.
30:05They be in the bushes.
30:07And I'm like, my dad would never go in a park and behind bushes and, you know, stuff like that.
30:12So I was shocked about that.
30:15One Sunday, Dennis preached a horrible sermon.
30:19And I was sitting next to his mother.
30:21And his mother said, now, you just look around.
30:24Now, whoever he's f***ing is right in front of you.
30:29The rumor was that Dennis was seeing LeVar, the man he'd begged me to hire as a teacher in the child care center I had been running for a decade.
30:41And I called Dennis.
30:43And I asked Dennis, was this true?
30:45He didn't deny it.
30:46He did admit it was true.
30:48And I said, how could you do this to me?
30:51And she's very angry, because how dare me bring my lover into that school?
31:01And that was wrong.
31:02That shouldn't have happened.
31:04He had been bringing LeVar in front of my face all of this time, family meals, the church, my house.
31:16And he was sleeping with him.
31:19I said, I feel like you have hit me with a truck.
31:25And you just keep running over me with the truck.
31:28I was 27 years old when I met Dennis.
31:34He was 53.
31:37I met him November the 14th, 2005.
31:40We were at a place that's called Insurrection.
31:43One of them sex places.
31:46I saw this tall, interesting man.
31:48I thought that he was some basketball player.
31:51Only to find out he doesn't even know anything about sports.
31:54So we exchanged numbers.
31:57The next day I was at his house.
32:00I don't know what it was about him that I just could not let him go.
32:04I started seeing him on a regular basis.
32:08Sneaking around.
32:09And that's when it started getting messy between me and her.
32:15Dennis had had multiple affairs before.
32:17But each time, he told me it was just about sex.
32:23And that he still loved me.
32:26This time was different.
32:29I knew he was in love with him because he wasn't in love with me.
32:35He didn't have to tell me.
32:38At that point, my priority was more him than her.
32:41This relationship with LeVar is the most important relationship to me.
32:44In late 2005, I finally decided I would no longer be the secret keeper.
32:52I was going to speak the truth.
32:55I said, I can't keep dealing with this drama.
32:58I needed to tell the boys what was going on and not try to protect Dennis like my mother protected my daddy.
33:05She never told us that daddy was cheating.
33:07I ended up doing the same thing, protecting Dennis.
33:14We were in the house.
33:17We were upstairs.
33:18And, you know, my mom was upset, obviously.
33:22You could tell she had been crying.
33:24My dad, you know, said he was kind of sitting there.
33:26He had his legs crossed like this.
33:28And he was kind of looking down.
33:30And she said, I want to tell y'all something.
33:31And then my mom kind of comes out and says, yeah, your daddy was messing around with some man.
33:40Wait, what?
33:41Pause.
33:42He did what?
33:43With a man.
33:45Uh, did I hear that correctly?
33:48I was like, why is she doing this?
33:51But, you know, I deserved it.
33:52You know, I done my crap.
33:53I felt like my stomach had just dropped to my, um, my feet.
33:58And it was just like, what is going on?
34:02My dad's secret ripped our family apart.
34:11In front of the congregation, family, and friends, me and Lydia looked like the perfect couple.
34:18He didn't announce anything to the church, but we were separated.
34:24I met LaVar in November 2005.
34:26I asked him for us to be exclusive in January.
34:30LaVar presents this, uh, life for me that is so comforting.
34:36And so, at that point, he moved into our condo.
34:40And we're actually living together.
34:42You know, my dad literally moving on with somebody else, it forced a change.
34:49We were just all beaten up by the trauma of it all and the drama of it all.
34:57It felt like he was choosing that new family over the family that had been ride or die all these years.
35:06And LaVar, you know, I had all the hate in the world for him.
35:09And it was just like, dude, there's no way you'll be accepted, like, by any of us, man.
35:15And so, it was 2007 when I filed for divorce.
35:23I was dumbfounded.
35:24I couldn't believe it.
35:26They were just a perfect family.
35:29And the next thing I knew, she said, I can't take anymore.
35:32It's over.
35:33She went into that marriage so innocently, and it just tore her up.
35:40Lydia lost everything that she had.
35:44Later, I found out that they stayed together to keep the family together.
35:48You know what I'm saying?
35:50But I don't want you to stay in a marriage, you know what I'm saying, where you're getting cheated on.
35:53You should have left my father when it first happened.
35:57The secret of my dad's sexuality, the secret of his infidelity, his double life, it broke us.
36:05And I saw how she was hurting.
36:07I saw my mom literally deteriorate.
36:12She became, like, this big.
36:15Because emotionally, she was just ripped to pieces.
36:20I was empty.
36:21I was broken.
36:24I was fractured.
36:25I was stampeded.
36:26I was crushed.
36:30I was alone.
36:31I was in therapy at that time.
36:37I started going to seminary to try to make some sense out of my life.
36:41I said, this is just too crazy.
36:43This is just something I didn't anticipate.
36:47My marriage has ended.
36:49I just got to come to some kind of reckoning of what's happening in my life.
36:56One Sunday, I just said, I'm going to tell the church who I'm with.
37:03Y'all been asking questions.
37:04Am I dating somebody?
37:06Yes, I'm dating LeVar Brickett.
37:08Stand up, LeVar.
37:10And I stood up, and that's when everybody could put a face and name together.
37:16I'm like, what the are you doing?
37:18It was a crazy, crazy moment.
37:21Some of the people in the church already knew who he was and what he was doing.
37:26You know what I'm saying?
37:27So like, okay, pastor, congratulations.
37:29You came out.
37:30But then there were people that just got up and like walked out.
37:33And when I saw people walking out, I was like, he's ruining, you know, what we built here.
37:39But by now, the congregation is 85% gay.
37:43I lost people announcing that LeVar and I were together.
37:47And I gained a whole lot of others.
37:48Because then they said, he's really one of us.
37:51He's a gay man.
37:56It took many, many more years of therapy to unravel the decades of secrets that tore my family apart.
38:06But through it all, I learned how to heal and be true to myself.
38:12I had to start over with a love life, start over with a church life.
38:17I was alone.
38:19And that space of isolation is when I penned the gay preacher's wife.
38:24I had so much shame.
38:26I had so much anger and contempt.
38:30And I knew what I needed to heal.
38:33And that was to forgive Dennis.
38:37If I could reach that mark of forgiveness, I would be free.
38:41I knew if I didn't forgive Dennis, that my family would always be fractured.
38:49So I did the work to forgive.
38:52Okay, here we go.
38:57And I want you to follow me in and bring these two dishes.
39:00Here we go!
39:02Ooh, look at that.
39:06Grandma's famous banana party.
39:07If you look at my family today, you see a blended family.
39:14You see two dads.
39:16You see six grandchildren, three sons.
39:19You see a gay son, two straight sons.
39:22You see nothing but love, compassion, and happiness, and acceptance.
39:28But it, I promise you.
39:30The only person in the entire world that could have done this was her.
39:34It just wasn't overnight.
39:35It was years of healing, years of acceptance.
39:39This is a journey.
39:3918 years of the day.
39:40It's been a journey.
39:41It was a journey of our family.
39:43And now we're stronger than we were before this all happened.
39:48God put me and her together, and God put me and him together.
39:51It was very difficult.
39:52But we're good friends.
39:55Me and Lydia, I think we're at the best place we've ever been.
39:58There are no secrets.
40:00And I think that's a wonderful way to live with people you love.
40:05Dennis' secret deconstructed my life.
40:09But it gave me the kind of faith that has made me stronger and wiser.
40:16Here's my husband.
40:17And this is my ex-wife.
40:19And I'm sitting in between them, and we enjoying being here.
40:22And eating her dessert.
40:23And eating her dessert that my ex-wife cooked in my husband's kitchen.
40:30I could not be that person today if I hadn't gone through that.
40:34And I know that I'm supposed to use my experience to help others.
40:42Secrets are poison, and they will kill you.
40:46Nothing but pain comes from that space.
40:48But forgiveness will set you free.
40:52When you're looking for something, there is this euphoria when you find it.
40:59But then you have more questions.
41:02There was a secret.
41:04Her origin.
41:05The full weight of the story, this is pretty ugly.
41:08Mom took this secret to the grave.
41:12Your ass will catch up with you.
41:14That storm is coming.
41:16It was just too much.
41:17I remember saying that I want to stop.
41:19And then I started weeping.
41:22It felt like a world break.
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