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00:08:50All right, well, I came here to apologize to you, and I've done that, and I really don't
00:09:00think I have anything else to say.
00:09:03Official divorce time.
00:09:06It's called spade to spade.
00:09:07That's what it is.
00:09:13Madison, what is causing your demeanor right now?
00:09:16I can sense his anger, and I, you know, I don't, I don't feel like anything that I say is going
00:09:25to make it better, honestly.
00:09:27His opinion of me won't change, and it sucks, and I'm going to have to live with it, but
00:09:33I'm not going to just beat a dead horse and make myself continue to feel sh**.
00:09:40What is the point of this?
00:09:42Closure.
00:09:42I don't see any benefit in it.
00:09:44Closure.
00:09:45Mm-hmm.
00:09:45Closure.
00:09:46He, don't you owe him closure?
00:09:48I actually, I honestly don't want it.
00:09:50You don't want it?
00:09:50Yeah.
00:09:51I don't need closure.
00:09:52There's Madison, it's, it's easy to get over.
00:09:55You know, the whole situation, I mean, it's like a switch in my mind.
00:10:01Um, so yeah, there, there's no closure needed.
00:10:04I don't have any questions.
00:10:05I don't have any, uh, desire.
00:10:08Like, none of her words hold any value in my eyes.
00:10:11I don't.
00:10:11What about from David?
00:10:12Oh, no, he's, he's like, dirt to me.
00:10:17There's no, okay.
00:10:21I mean, it is what it is.
00:10:24Like, I'm not going to sit here and, I'm not going to dwell on it.
00:10:27You know, I'm going to move forward and go about my life.
00:10:32Does moving forward mean, um, I have to ask this.
00:10:35Does that mean that you're going to, uh, continue your pursuit of the connection with David?
00:10:42Is that what that means, moving forward?
00:10:46I mean, possibly at some point.
00:10:47I think right now I'm just focused on healing myself.
00:10:50It's a tough situation.
00:10:52Um, we can't help but feel really bad for Alan.
00:10:57Because he's a very trusting guy.
00:11:03I always thought that you were being pretty valiant, trying to figure out how to appreciate him.
00:11:08But I had no idea you were trying to tell someone else.
00:11:13Is there anything else you want to, you want to say?
00:11:16Hmm.
00:11:17Nope.
00:11:17There's no part of me that wants to be married to this woman.
00:11:25Okay.
00:11:25Well, it's an unhappy ending.
00:11:28Yeah.
00:11:29Uh, there's nothing we can do about that.
00:11:31Yeah.
00:11:31And, and don't, um, lose hope.
00:11:35You know, um, I do believe that everyone deserves happiness.
00:11:39Yeah.
00:11:39So, uh, I, I, I'm wishing the best for you.
00:11:43I have.
00:11:44Thank you.
00:11:44All I hear, loud and clear, everything you don't say, insistence, servin' this everything that you gave.
00:11:51Thank you, guys.
00:11:52I appreciate it.
00:11:53Thank you.
00:11:55I truly wish nothing but the best for Alan.
00:11:57Everything that we have gone through, I thought that we would at least be able to have a conversation where we could at least look at each other in the face.
00:12:03Um, but apparently I don't even deserve that much from him, so.
00:12:06He's rightfully angry, for sure, but he seems a little more spiteful.
00:12:09I mean, I didn't come into this experience to get a divorce.
00:12:12But, I mean, I still have feelings for David, no question.
00:12:15And I, you know, could see those being something for sure.
00:12:18And now we can both move forward.
00:12:20It is what it is.
00:12:20You take care of yourself, Alan.
00:12:27Thank you, thank you.
00:12:28Feels good knowing my divorce is official.
00:12:31I'm going to get back to, you know, my pursuit of actually finding somebody, you know, that deserves me and that I deserve.
00:12:39I want that genuine, true love.
00:12:44Cheers.
00:12:47To life.
00:12:49Me and Bina were just saying.
00:12:50Ooh, it's actually pretty good.
00:12:51Yeah.
00:12:51We were just talking about it today, how your wedding even felt.
00:12:55Oh, yeah.
00:12:55Like it was yesterday.
00:12:56I know, it was two months, like two months ago.
00:12:58Really?
00:12:59Two months ago.
00:12:59That surprises me, though, because I feel like so much time has passed and so much has happened.
00:13:03And I'm like, it's only been a few weeks.
00:13:05I feel like it's been so long.
00:13:06Well, two months.
00:13:07Yes.
00:13:07Yeah.
00:13:08Or a few weeks or, yeah, whatever.
00:13:09Yeah.
00:13:10Yeah, that's a long time.
00:13:11Well, you know, Juan and I really made strides in, like, building, like, a really great friendship.
00:13:16But, like, part of me thinks that, like, we're both tiptoeing around each other to feel where we're at and no one's, like, just straight up saying anything.
00:13:28So, like, it's hard to be, like, vulnerable.
00:13:32I know you've put effort in so far.
00:13:34It's not turning out to be the way you envisioned it.
00:13:37But how are you feeling inside?
00:13:41I think now that we're coming close to, like, decision day, it is really starting to sink in and, like, reality is starting to hit.
00:13:55I feel, I don't know.
00:14:01Because I think from what I just talking to you and knowing you, I feel like I just kind of, like, want to shake him.
00:14:06Is there anything that he could do or whatever that would, like, possibly change?
00:14:13I don't think there's any, like, set, like, oh, he needs to do or say this for me to have hope or for me to.
00:14:22I think, honestly, just, like, a simple gesture of just, like, Carla, I really like you.
00:14:27I didn't really know how to navigate this relationship.
00:14:30I did have walls up.
00:14:31I was scared of being vulnerable.
00:14:34But going forward, I do want to try with you.
00:14:38I do want to lower my walls.
00:14:40I do see this working out.
00:14:43I do find you attractive.
00:14:45I am interested in you.
00:14:47I feel like any of those words would be great.
00:14:51Can you, like, any of the above?
00:14:52Anything.
00:15:12Hi.
00:15:12Hi.
00:15:13Good to see you.
00:15:18Great dress.
00:15:19Oh, thank you.
00:15:20You look good at that.
00:15:21Thank you.
00:15:21All right.
00:15:22You better.
00:15:22You better.
00:15:23You better.
00:15:26Well, tell us how it's been for you.
00:15:30I mean, where do I start?
00:15:32I know.
00:15:33Yeah.
00:15:34I feel like there's just been a lot of lying for probably way longer than I'm aware of.
00:15:39To what extent do you think David and Madison are involved?
00:15:44I don't know how much they're involved.
00:15:46I think to send a message like that, like, probably more than I've been told.
00:15:56Hello, everybody.
00:15:58Hello.
00:15:58Hey.
00:15:58Hello.
00:16:02Hi.
00:16:05So mostly, this is about helping you talk to each other, seeking clarity.
00:16:10Well, I'll start off by saying I do truly do apologize.
00:16:18There was no intention to hurt you whatsoever.
00:16:21That is not in me. That's not the person I am.
00:16:25Unfortunately, I caught feelings for Madison.
00:16:30And that wasn't fair to you.
00:16:32I should have gave my feelings to you in regards to how I was feeling
00:16:36and what I wasn't happy about in the marriage
00:16:39so that we could work on those things.
00:16:41But I held those in, and I do apologize for that.
00:16:46You know that everything you've said up until this point,
00:16:48and maybe this is even a lie, too,
00:16:50so do you expect me just to leave you now?
00:16:52And why is that funny?
00:16:54I'm not laughing at like that.
00:16:55It's just what you always say.
00:16:57I'm like, you're going to choose to either believe it or not.
00:16:59I can't help you do that.
00:17:02Okay.
00:17:03May I ask where the defensiveness is coming from at this point for you?
00:17:07That wasn't defensive.
00:17:08I just want to be completely done with this.
00:17:12Mentally, I'm checked out.
00:17:14So it's just like when I got shit spinning in my head,
00:17:18I just shut down.
00:17:20Unfortunately, that's where I'm at.
00:17:24Yeah.
00:17:24And you don't see that as defensive?
00:17:26No, that's just...
00:17:27Okay.
00:17:29This is how you are, right?
00:17:33Yes.
00:17:33There's too much going on.
00:17:36You know, you check out.
00:17:40How do you feel that works in relationship,
00:17:43either with your wife or with anyone else?
00:17:47Um, I think it would be something that if I was in a relationship,
00:17:52my partner would help me with.
00:17:54Um, if that's something to like talk about.
00:17:58Yeah, but don't you feel like that's your responsibility?
00:18:00Right.
00:18:00Well, yeah, at some point, you know,
00:18:02but, uh, asking how you're feeling type deal can't help that.
00:18:08I've never been asked that once in this whole marriage.
00:18:12How are you doing?
00:18:14I feel like you're making a case for why it's okay for you to have had an affair on this job.
00:18:20I'm not condoning that.
00:18:21I f***ed up.
00:18:21I've already admitted that.
00:18:22Do you think anyone believes this?
00:18:24I don't care.
00:18:24I don't care what other people believe or don't believe.
00:18:26That's very apparent, David.
00:18:28You're doing a great job of letting us know that you don't care.
00:18:31And that's what I'm saying to you.
00:18:33Your apology doesn't feel genuine.
00:18:35It doesn't sound genuine because it's couched in.
00:18:40But did you do this?
00:18:40But did you do that?
00:18:41It's like you're now saying to Pastor Cal,
00:18:43if you don't know something,
00:18:44then it's your partner's responsibility to help you figure that out.
00:18:48Like, at what point do you take responsibility for your own actions as an adult?
00:18:54I'm taking them all right now.
00:18:55I'm admitting to me f***ing up and not condoning it.
00:18:58So I don't...
00:19:00At this point, I'm just literally checked out.
00:19:04What is your process for getting checked back in?
00:19:08I got to take time for myself.
00:19:10Because at the end of the day, I got to make myself happy.
00:19:13And right now, I'm totally not happy.
00:19:15Is a part of your happiness also pursuing Madison?
00:19:20Yeah.
00:19:28It's hard hearing that.
00:19:31Like, you're trying to work on yourself,
00:19:33but you're also trying to work on things with Madison.
00:19:36Like, that doesn't make sense to me.
00:19:37I don't know what to tell you, Michelle.
00:19:43Michelle, what would you like to hear from him,
00:19:46if not now, in the future, or whenever?
00:19:49Nothing.
00:19:52I mean, there's no remorse here.
00:19:54He blames me for everything.
00:19:56He could care less how I feel.
00:19:58All that matters is with him and Madison.
00:20:00Get along fine, and I need to get out of the way.
00:20:03So, yeah, there's nothing, honestly, he could say
00:20:05that will make me feel better.
00:20:06I don't need anything from him.
00:20:08So it's all good, David.
00:20:10Good luck with Madison.
00:20:12Do you care about me?
00:20:13Yeah, I did care about you as a person.
00:20:15That's why I didn't run out on the marriage.
00:20:16That's why I treated you with respect.
00:20:20I was loyal to this marriage.
00:20:21Yes, I did care.
00:20:23Did I ask you how your day was every day?
00:20:25No, I guess Madison was doing that.
00:20:27But I cared, so don't take that away from me.
00:20:33Do you care about me?
00:20:35I don't, to be completely honest with you.
00:20:37Okay.
00:20:40And why didn't you just,
00:20:42if you had all these feelings for Madison,
00:20:44why drag me along?
00:20:45Like, why wouldn't you have just said in the beginning,
00:20:47like, I have a connection with Madison.
00:20:48Like, I want to end things with you.
00:20:49Like, why did you keep dragging me?
00:20:51I don't know, because I didn't think you cared.
00:20:53To be completely honest.
00:20:55Well, she stayed in the marriage, man.
00:20:57You got to give her credit,
00:20:58because she obviously cared some, somewhat.
00:21:01I mean, she admitted that she was having trouble.
00:21:03She admitted that she was slow to catch on,
00:21:06that it was taking time for her to develop.
00:21:09Oh, okay.
00:21:10Are you okay?
00:21:13This is what I get.
00:21:15Well, I mean, that's only an exercise.
00:21:25I mean, it was over anyway.
00:21:26Right.
00:21:28When you're saying you didn't think she cared,
00:21:32are you then saying because she didn't care,
00:21:34like, it was a free-for-all for you to do whatever?
00:21:36I don't know.
00:21:36Well, um, I don't know if there's anything further to be said.
00:21:47No.
00:21:48Do you guys have anything to say?
00:21:50I would like a divorce.
00:21:51Okay.
00:21:52It sounds like David's already moved on with Madison,
00:21:55so I don't really know where that leaves me.
00:21:58Yeah, and I'm sure you, that's...
00:21:59Lord, does he care?
00:22:00Yes.
00:22:01I would like a divorce as well.
00:22:03Yeah.
00:22:04I really hope for you that you do some deep soul searching,
00:22:08and I must say I've lost all respect for you
00:22:12and the way that you have behaved.
00:22:14And for you, I mean, your lessons have been massive, you know,
00:22:19and I don't want you to lose hope.
00:22:20Mm-hmm.
00:22:21You know, don't lose hope.
00:22:22You don't lose hope.
00:22:22Don't lose faith in marriage.
00:22:24I still want to get married again.
00:22:25Of course.
00:22:26And you deserve that.
00:22:27You deserve the things that you want.
00:22:29Yeah, don't lose hope.
00:22:29Yeah, don't.
00:22:30Yeah.
00:22:31This has been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, hands down.
00:22:34So, yeah.
00:22:35So, yeah, that's...
00:22:36Yeah.
00:22:37I did learn a lot.
00:22:38Needless to say, we're sorry we're in this place.
00:22:43This chapter of your life is something to be thought about and learned from,
00:22:48but it's concluded at this moment.
00:22:57Thank you, guys.
00:22:59I'm kind of relieved that it's over.
00:23:01and then it's just done.
00:23:02So, I'm kind of relieved on that aspect, on how it ended and the situation.
00:23:06Probably not the best, but things happen.
00:23:09I go back and do it differently.
00:23:11Fuck yeah, but it's a learning lesson.
00:23:13You live and you learn and move on.
00:23:14Tomorrow's a new day.
00:23:19It's our last day before decision day.
00:23:22Things are, you know, things are good.
00:23:24She's my best friend, you know, like, we get along really well.
00:23:27And I enjoy being a husband in our marriage.
00:23:29I've seen a lot of patience and care for each other.
00:23:32And the thing that I'm thinking about is where this can grow from here.
00:23:37We have made it this far.
00:23:41Was it what you expected?
00:23:42Not that, I mean, that I had expectations on, like, who you were as a person, but just, I think for me it was more natural to kind of go into that space of, like, considering someone else.
00:23:58Yeah.
00:23:58And it wasn't really reciprocated.
00:24:01Yeah.
00:24:01So for me, that's where I was, like, struggling.
00:24:04Yeah, for sure.
00:24:04So it was, like, this, like, tug of war within me that I'm, like, do I just, like, kind of sit back and just do my own thing?
00:24:13Or, like, do I remain myself and just, you know, stay considerate and, like, mindful of you?
00:24:22Yeah.
00:24:24No, that makes sense.
00:24:25I mean, I could definitely sense that.
00:24:27I think the toughest part for me for sure was, you know, I think feeling that, you know, and then I think towards the beginning, I got, like, one sense of, like, what you wanted.
00:24:40And then I felt like that's what I was giving you, and then I wasn't, you know, so I was kind of a little bit confused, and that's when I was, like, I don't know.
00:24:49But that's when I took a step back, and then that's when I was, like, okay, you know, I've always also told you, like, I want you to stay authentic to yourself.
00:25:01Like, I'm not here to shift or to try to change or just, you know, like, it's truly seeing if two people can, like, intertwine their lives together.
00:25:12And, um, for me, being able to truly just release all expectations and, like, surrender and just, like, it allowed me to just truly appreciate you for, like, who you are.
00:25:25Life is hard enough. Like, I'm not here to bring, like, more hardship to your life. If anything, I think, um, a marriage should be with your friend, a place where you're able to, like, escape and just, like, the comfort of being together.
00:25:41No, I mean, I think we make a good team, for sure.
00:25:45Do you want my love?
00:26:00Thank you.
00:26:02Do you want my love?
00:26:04This is beautiful.
00:26:06Okay.
00:26:08I got you.
00:26:08Thank you.
00:26:11Ooh, this thing's cold.
00:26:15Man, look at this. It's like an outdoor garden oasis.
00:26:20I know. Beautiful.
00:26:22How you guys doing?
00:26:23Hi, good. How are you?
00:26:24Hey, welcome.
00:26:25Thank you.
00:26:25Here you go. Here's our little charcuterie board.
00:26:27Wow.
00:26:27Like that.
00:26:28These are our Meade flights.
00:26:29Wow.
00:26:30Okay.
00:26:33Enjoy.
00:26:34Thank you.
00:26:35Yeah.
00:26:36All right.
00:26:37In my alley, there's all these tastings.
00:26:39I'm always down for a good flight, get a little bit of everything.
00:26:41I can't even believe decision day is literally right around the corner.
00:26:47I know.
00:26:48Time flies.
00:26:49How you feeling about it?
00:26:50Um, I mean, I feel good.
00:26:52I feel like we're at a place where we're not going to have any regrets.
00:26:56But I just want to, you know, make sure that we are both making the best decisions
00:26:59and that, you know, there's definitely legs to this.
00:27:04Uh, I try not to let feelings dictate how I make rational decisions.
00:27:09But also you have to look at longevity and, like, logic behind it, too.
00:27:14Yeah.
00:27:15No, I would agree.
00:27:16You know, I know we've kind of just tossed around different ideas about after decision day,
00:27:22um, living arrangements, things like that.
00:27:24What are your thoughts on that, like, move out day?
00:27:28Mm-hmm.
00:27:29Where are we going?
00:27:29What are we doing?
00:27:30Okay.
00:27:31So I know when we talked to Pastor Kyle, he suggested that if we were to go to separate
00:27:37residences and kind of, like, share time at different places, we could lose traction
00:27:41on what we've built.
00:27:43Um, but I also got to look at it realistically.
00:27:45So it's going to take time to make that happen.
00:27:48Mm-hmm.
00:27:49I would love for you to just move in with me, uh, but I don't have the space to support
00:27:56that.
00:27:58Mm-hmm.
00:27:58So I think initially that would be my first thought.
00:28:01I think that's, you know, one thing that I want to kind of push you on or, you know,
00:28:07that I'm looking for and needing to help me feel better about saying yes on decision
00:28:13day is not just looking up and wondering, you know, what's next or, yeah, it's just,
00:28:20it's all about that progression and, and feeling kind of prioritized or important enough to
00:28:27make plans for kind of thing.
00:28:29Yeah.
00:28:30So on decision day where we both say yes, that's like our next move.
00:28:34And then going from there.
00:28:36But some things just aren't as concrete as I'd like them to be because, you know, I don't
00:28:42know what's going to happen on decision day.
00:28:44I don't know what, you know, you're going to say, um, you know, and you don't know what
00:28:47I'm going to say yet.
00:28:48So.
00:28:49But if I'm saying like that would help with the yes or help me feel more secure in the
00:28:54yes, I also don't want it to be like, you know, we've just been playing house.
00:28:59I want to know what your thoughts and plans are for the future.
00:29:03And I do need to hear those and, you know, don't just want to fall back on like, this
00:29:08is, you know, fun in the moment.
00:29:10It's like real life.
00:29:12You took the words out of my mouth, like playing house.
00:29:15Like that's, that's not what I want to do either.
00:29:18I take things very serious and I want to make those plans.
00:29:22I want to, I have plans in my head.
00:29:24I have a timetable for what I want things to happen.
00:29:27You know, I definitely want to pursue a family and, you know, I want to do that in a couple
00:29:31of years.
00:29:32So I want to make sure like you're on board with that.
00:29:35Well, and that's what I was going to say is, you know, you saying that you have like timelines
00:29:39and goals and plans in your head, but like those are what I need to hear too.
00:29:43Or, you know, especially when they involve me and like that's the stuff that I think will
00:29:48make me feel so much better and more secure in the end.
00:29:53I feel like we both stated right at the beginning of this, that we have issues with the vulnerability
00:29:59piece and really, really putting ourselves out there.
00:30:03I feel like through this entire process, I've been like more vulnerable than I've been in
00:30:08my entire life.
00:30:09You know, I've just, I kind of laid it all out there and I don't regret that.
00:30:12I wanted to do that for you.
00:30:14I wanted to do that for me.
00:30:15Um, but from my perspective, I don't know that you have, I've, you know, I've seen you
00:30:20cry once, which I'm not expecting you to bawl your eyes out constantly, but I guess I, I
00:30:25would ask what is vulnerability to?
00:30:27I don't think I've ever gone this deep in any relationships before with just our conversations
00:30:32and I want to tap into that softness and be able to loosen up and not be the planner,
00:30:40programmer, coordinator.
00:30:41Um, and I think that that will help with that as well.
00:30:45Kind of being able to feel like I can, you know, sit back and relax and be able to, to
00:30:50tap into that softness and vulnerability more.
00:30:54Yeah.
00:30:54I just want to know that, you know, that's something that you're committed to.
00:30:58Yeah, definitely.
00:30:59For sure.
00:31:00There's a portion of me that's thinking he's not really understanding that a lot of my
00:31:04vulnerability has a direct correlation to his lack of ability to make a concrete decision
00:31:10and have a firm stance on anything, even asking him tonight, like, what are our plans after
00:31:16decision day?
00:31:17Where are we going?
00:31:18Where are we living?
00:31:19And still just, you know, kind of getting hit with that vague, I want to live with you
00:31:23someday.
00:31:24I see that in the future.
00:31:25It almost feels like he's not choosing me above all else or just too complacent for me.
00:31:33You ready?
00:31:37I'm ready.
00:31:38Get some balls.
00:31:40Oh, it's so nice.
00:31:42Oh.
00:31:43So happy, so happy, so happy.
00:31:47Well, first of all, cheers.
00:31:49I haven't been on a date in a while.
00:31:50I haven't asked anybody on a date in a hot minute.
00:31:52So, uh, thank you for joining me.
00:31:54A little golf.
00:31:55Yeah.
00:31:56Are you kidding me?
00:31:57This is something we've talked about for a while.
00:31:58I know.
00:31:59This is like my ideal.
00:32:00Finally made it happen.
00:32:01My ideal weekend activity.
00:32:03Oh, this is my ideal date.
00:32:05I'll tell you.
00:32:05Your ideal date?
00:32:06Yes, 100%.
00:32:07Can't go wrong with booze, a beautiful woman, and some golf.
00:32:12I would agree.
00:32:13That's a pretty good date.
00:32:16You can't watch me.
00:32:17Oh, sorry.
00:32:18I'm going to be nervous.
00:32:18I'm going to be nervous.
00:32:18Great first one.
00:32:23You better keep that head down.
00:32:25How long have you been golfing?
00:32:27Ooh, how long have I been golfing?
00:32:29Probably since I was like maybe 11, 12.
00:32:33What about you?
00:32:35I probably got into it like a couple years ago.
00:32:37My dad and my uncle and my grandparents, they've always played.
00:32:45If I could just take that slice out of my head.
00:32:48How are you feeling about everything?
00:32:52Are you just in general?
00:32:54Like life?
00:32:55Yeah, life.
00:32:58Oh.
00:33:00Does that explain it all?
00:33:02Better?
00:33:02Better?
00:33:02Better?
00:33:03Better.
00:33:04It's better.
00:33:05No, I feel like I've definitely felt more like myself in the last week.
00:33:09Okay.
00:33:10Definitely feeling happier than I think it was.
00:33:13Happy is a good word.
00:33:14Yeah.
00:33:17Yeah, I mean, I know that there's been like a lot that's happened, but I feel like doing
00:33:22stuff like this and hanging out with you, it's a lot easier.
00:33:24It's just not as forced.
00:33:26It's not like, there's no pressure to it.
00:33:28And we're doing things that we like.
00:33:29Yeah.
00:33:30Like, this is something that I love to do.
00:33:32Like, I could just be out here for hours.
00:33:34Like, hours.
00:33:35Speaking my love language.
00:33:36Golf is the way to the heart.
00:33:41That's what I've been told.
00:33:41Golf and food.
00:33:42Golf and food.
00:33:43Oh.
00:33:44But what about you?
00:33:45I'm back at peace.
00:33:46Positive vibes.
00:33:47Happy.
00:33:48Like, sure, my smile fucking doesn't hurt.
00:33:54But, yeah, just, I'm really excited, to be honest with you, and I like spending time
00:33:58with you, and I want more of this, to be honest.
00:34:01So.
00:34:02Me too.
00:34:02It's all fun.
00:34:05Not great, but it'll do.
00:34:07It'll do?
00:34:08It'll do.
00:34:09I'll take a drink.
00:34:09Oh.
00:34:11Shaking over here a little nervous.
00:34:13Yeah, what?
00:34:14I said a little nervous.
00:34:15Why?
00:34:15Why am I nervous?
00:34:22Let's see.
00:34:25Because, how do I put this?
00:34:30My feelings for you are strong, but I'm not trying to overwhelm you.
00:34:34I know we're going through a lot, as well.
00:34:37But I could see a lot with us.
00:34:41And I didn't know how to put it, so that's why I'm a little nervous.
00:34:44I know there's a lot going on, but I just want to let you know that I'm still going to
00:34:51rock with you, no matter what.
00:34:54So, I know it doesn't have to happen today to tomorrow, weeks from now months, but I just wanted to let you know I want to rock with you.
00:35:01And thank you.
00:35:02Well, you're welcome.
00:35:03I mean, my feelings for you are strong, too.
00:35:05Like, I don't want to, like, diminish how I'm feeling.
00:35:08Like, when you and I have hung out, it's been so fun, and, like, it's been easy.
00:35:12Oh, definitely.
00:35:13Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
00:35:14It's just, it's easy peasy.
00:35:16And, uh, when I'm with you, I definitely have fun, and I feel good.
00:35:20So, that's, I could see down the line, so.
00:35:24But I just wanted to let you know.
00:35:25You're so cute and you're nervous.
00:35:28David.
00:35:29No, yeah, damn, man.
00:35:30Mr. Convay, my shit don't stink, yeah.
00:35:34Don't want to overwhelm her or push her off, you know.
00:35:36She could just be feeling a little bit, but I feel it a lot.
00:35:40You know, rejection's never good.
00:35:43Oh, yeah, come on.
00:35:44No, yeah.
00:35:45There ain't nobody in my eyes but you, so don't let that be good.
00:35:51Cheers.
00:35:52Cheers.
00:35:52Cheers to growth and figuring shit out and just trying to be happy and.
00:35:58Well, we're going to be happy.
00:35:59Blowing shit up every long way.
00:36:04It took me a while to open up to you.
00:36:10Now you've left me unopened, I don't know what to do.
00:36:15Carlita, Carlita.
00:36:20What's going on, Mancho?
00:36:22Not much, just about the pack.
00:36:25Some stuff in a little bit.
00:36:27You know, we got a lot of thinking to do tonight.
00:36:29Tomorrow is decision day.
00:36:29I know, it's our last night before decision day.
00:36:32But yeah, I think, you know, tonight I think it's a good idea for me to probably just stay in my apartment.
00:36:37You know, I think it'll give us both time to, like, clear our minds and, you know, come in tomorrow with a level and clear ahead on what we want to do.
00:36:46Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
00:36:49What's on your mind going into decision day?
00:36:51Um, I, nothing really on my mind.
00:36:55I think I lead more with my heart and just, like, the way that I feel.
00:36:58So I've just been, like, reflecting on, like, the way that I felt throughout this marriage.
00:37:05And I think, um, yeah, there's, like, a lot of positive things.
00:37:09I mean, a lot of things that I ask the experts for, you have.
00:37:13And I think, um, this is a very healthy marriage.
00:37:17Like, this is, like, what I would see myself overall having.
00:37:21And we did build a really nice foundation.
00:37:24But when it comes to intimacy, unfortunately, it kind of just came to a standstill.
00:37:32And, like, to me, it's kind of, like, just sitting back and, like, thinking, like, is there something, like, more there?
00:37:40Like, I don't know.
00:37:43Yeah.
00:37:44I mean, for me, it just didn't feel organic for me to make that move.
00:37:48So we would have to figure something out in regards to, like, how to be able to be intimate and be organic, you know,
00:37:58or just be, like, how do we grow a romantic connection?
00:38:02You know, and maybe I would say also, like, compromise on some of the spiritual stuff, you know?
00:38:11Like what?
00:38:13I don't know.
00:38:14The spiritual, it's, like, a lot of spiritual stuff for me is just too much sometimes.
00:38:19Like, throughout this experience, what's been too much for you?
00:38:22No, just, like, you know, when we really dove into, like, cards and...
00:38:27But that's not, like, an everyday thing.
00:38:30That was, like, you stepping into my world.
00:38:34Exactly.
00:38:34So it's like, oh, my God.
00:38:36I was like, is this, like, something that happens quite often?
00:38:39Like...
00:38:40Did it?
00:38:40In the two months that you lived with me?
00:38:42No, but exactly.
00:38:43Did it?
00:38:43We were only together for two months.
00:38:45And I would never, like, push my beliefs on, like, someone else.
00:38:50I appreciate that.
00:38:54And, you know, I do see a lot of positives.
00:38:57You know, we had a lot of fun adventures, and you were always open to getting dirty.
00:39:01And, you know, for me, that was a plus.
00:39:03I liked that about you, that you were always, like, open to just saying, fuck it, let's do this and see how it goes.
00:39:10And obviously the communication piece, you know, I've had great relationships, but I've never been able to, like, successfully communicate with a partner in the past.
00:39:19So it's nice to be able to, like, bring that into a relationship with someone.
00:39:23So going into decision day, I guess those are the things that I'm thinking about.
00:39:27It's been really refreshing to be around someone who also sees life the way that I do and, like, be able to, like, learn from each other, so.
00:39:39Yeah, I totally agree.
00:39:40I think it's been really good.
00:39:43All right, so I guess it's time for me to pack my little bag.
00:39:47Woo-hoo.
00:39:49Happiness is above all the most important thing going into decision day.
00:39:54What's going to make you happy for the rest of your life?
00:39:57You want to have, like, a little goodbye dance party?
00:40:11Carla's a lot of fun.
00:40:13She makes me laugh.
00:40:14She does a lot of different things as I do.
00:40:17You know, like, those moments I like a lot, you know?
00:40:21And there are some good foundational qualities that Carla and I have.
00:40:26But, you know, is that enough to hold a marriage together?
00:40:30No.
00:40:31I don't know.
00:40:32I'd like to see you go, but I'd love to watch you leave.
00:40:35Thank you, thank you.
00:40:35I appreciate that.
00:40:36Ciao, ciao.
00:40:36Ciao, ciao.
00:40:37Don't forget your coat.
00:40:38Oh, my coat.
00:40:39Absolutely, yeah.
00:40:40Thank you.
00:40:41You should wear your poncho.
00:40:43I know.
00:40:43I'll leave that here.
00:40:44You can enjoy that for one more night before decision day.
00:40:47Okay.
00:40:48Ciao, ciao.
00:40:49Ciao, ciao.
00:40:50Ciao.
00:40:50Ciao.
00:40:51Ciao.
00:40:51This time, the wind is at my back.
00:40:55The gods are by my side.
00:40:58There's no one who cares about me.
00:41:00Man.
00:41:02Today's tomorrow.
00:41:04We're by really fast.
00:41:07A lot of different feelings.
00:41:09Like, a lot of different emotions.
00:41:11Like, it's going to be the first time we've really been away from each other.
00:41:15and, you know, this whole process.
00:41:18Yeah, just a lot rides on this.
00:41:20And, yeah, there's a lot of pressure to make the right decision
00:41:23and just trying to figure out what that is for the both of us.
00:41:29And then, yeah, it's just going to be really different, you know, spending the night apart.
00:41:35But I'm kind of looking forward to that because I think I need that, like, a good night to sleep on it.
00:41:42And that is one of the things I like to do when making decisions, is really sleep on it.
00:41:47Because tomorrow kind of determines everything.
00:41:50Yeah, tomorrow's going to come fast.
00:41:52Are you all packed up?
00:41:54Almost.
00:41:54On that note.
00:41:56Almost.
00:42:00I feel like when I go and sit on that couch tomorrow,
00:42:05it's really going to be deciding, you know, what I want the rest of my life to look like.
00:42:10Do I feel like Thomas is a man that, you know, that I see with me in this life
00:42:17that I really know I want to live?
00:42:20You know, just worrying about Tom's forward-thinking life goals and life plans,
00:42:27I haven't really liked what I've seen.
00:42:29So it's something that I'm going to really have to think hard about tonight.
00:42:32It's a decision day, and I'm feeling, like, a little scared and hesitant.
00:42:39Like, what do we need to, like, make a decision?
00:42:43It's just, like, I don't even know what to expect.
00:42:45Like, where is this going?
00:42:46What's next?
00:42:47So, we shall see.
00:42:50I figured, you know, for decision day, I wanted to look presentable.
00:42:53I love the mustache, but I feel like the clean shave is going to be a little more respectable.
00:42:58I feel kind of, like, a little bit nervous.
00:43:02At this point, I think what's weighing on my decision is what's really going to make me happy.
00:43:07You know, whatever happens, I hope that we walk away on a positive note.
00:43:13Hello, Mr.
00:43:14Hey, how are you?
00:43:15Wonderful.
00:43:15The first time I saw Juan, I thought he was very handsome.
00:43:28Are you in love?
00:43:29I hope that we can follow you all.
00:43:32I love that Juan has been able to bring a positive outlook on life in every situation.
00:43:39Let me turn her around.
00:43:41It looks better when you turn her around.
00:43:42Oh, no.
00:43:44Too fast.
00:43:45Too fast.
00:43:45Too fast.
00:43:46A little bit, a little bit.
00:43:48Woo!
00:43:50But we have some differences.
00:43:53Something that we're kind of working our way through is his mindfulness.
00:43:57Not really considering my needs or my wants.
00:44:00Juan and I have become amazing friends.
00:44:03I'm super grateful to have you in my life.
00:44:06I'm trying to really focus on our bond and, like, where we do have strengths.
00:44:11I'm really proud that you chose to continue to grow and evolve.
00:44:14But it's important to have affection as well.
00:44:20I actually love cuddles.
00:44:21Thank you so much.
00:44:22I'm not big on that kind of stuff.
00:44:23But I mean, obviously, you know, I'm going to try to meet in the middle at some point.
00:44:26Right.
00:44:27I do see a potential future with Juan and I, but going into Decision Day, I'm feeling open to surrendering to the universe.
00:44:37The first time I saw Carla, I thought she was beautiful.
00:44:52Hello.
00:44:52And we danced the night away.
00:44:59This is my husband!
00:45:05When Carla and I are together, we have a lot of fun.
00:45:10You've been having good times every night.
00:45:12Every night.
00:45:13Every day.
00:45:13Feels like forever.
00:45:15Forever, ever.
00:45:16I care for Carla because she is a beautiful human being and she has a big heart.
00:45:22I'm so sorry.
00:45:23Thank you.
00:45:24But Carla's passive aggressiveness and strong spirituality were definitely things that I had to get used to.
00:45:32It's going to clean the energies inside of your body.
00:45:35Oh, for real?
00:45:36Mm-hmm.
00:45:36Okay.
00:45:37There's just too many crystals and burning of incense and it's just not me.
00:45:42Carla has made me feel insecure about our financial future together.
00:45:48I left my job today.
00:45:51You can be crazy, but you shouldn't be stupid.
00:45:53I know you guys started off emotionally into each other.
00:45:58You know, you were very tactile.
00:46:00You were touching.
00:46:00And I know that you've pulled back.
00:46:02Am I right?
00:46:03I have.
00:46:03I have.
00:46:04You have?
00:46:04I think Carla's beautiful.
00:46:06I'm just not feeling the chemistry yet.
00:46:09Maybe if I keep getting to know her, I will fall in love with the person that she is.
00:46:14I'm flirty when I touch him.
00:46:16Maybe he's not there, but...
00:46:18I enjoy being a husband.
00:46:19In our marriage, I've seen a lot of patience and care for each other.
00:46:23You energize the world with laughter.
00:46:26Yeah.
00:46:26Mm-hmm.
00:46:27It ain't perfect, but it ain't.
00:46:30Carla and I have developed a strong friendship.
00:46:32And I've been trying my best to make our friendship grow into something more.
00:46:41All right, all right.
00:46:43Here is the gorgeous Langham Hotel.
00:46:45Yeah.
00:46:46Getting to meet with two couples today.
00:46:49We're meeting with Carla and Juan.
00:46:52Yeah.
00:46:52What do you think about...
00:46:54What do you think?
00:46:55It's hard to read for me.
00:46:57I worry about them being too nice and not expressing themselves to one another, like, their concerns more directly.
00:47:05Because they haven't seen all sides of one another.
00:47:07Maybe they're the kind of couple that Suche asked because there's so much they don't know yet.
00:47:12There's so much they could find out more about each other.
00:47:15And they would give each other the license to get that time.
00:47:19I agree with that.
00:47:21Well, let's go talk to Juan and Carla.
00:47:23Okay.
00:47:24Let's do it.
00:47:24I'm up for it.
00:47:31Welcome.
00:47:31How are you doing?
00:47:32How are you doing?
00:47:33Oh, you guys are beautiful.
00:47:34High five.
00:47:35Good to see you.
00:47:36You don't look too bad yourself there, guys.
00:47:37Good to see you.
00:47:38How are you doing, bud?
00:47:39Hello, sir.
00:47:39How are you?
00:47:40How do we remember you being that tall?
00:47:43How are you?
00:47:44You're all clean-shaving.
00:47:45I know.
00:47:45I've had all kinds of looks throughout this experience.
00:47:48There she comes.
00:47:53Wow, she looks very beautiful.
00:47:57Carita, carita.
00:47:59Hello, Juan.
00:48:00Hello, Carla.
00:48:01How are you?
00:48:02Good.
00:48:02You look very beautiful.
00:48:04I love your dress.
00:48:05It's amazing.
00:48:07We want to hear about your journey together.
00:48:11I've had a great time with you.
00:48:13I think you and I have really laughed a lot.
00:48:16and you've been a great partner to me for the past eight weeks.
00:48:22Thank you.
00:48:23I agree.
00:48:26Initially, meeting him, we had similarities where our viewpoints on life
00:48:30and viewing it in such a positive manner.
00:48:33Mm-hmm.
00:48:33If it wasn't until later, if I did take him a little deeper into my spiritual beliefs,
00:48:40it might have been, like, too much.
00:48:42Yeah, I mean, at the beginning, like, I was, like, totally cool with it.
00:48:45And I, you know, I just played along with it, you know, and we had fun with it.
00:48:48But I wasn't used to stuff like that.
00:48:50I really tried to see myself go into that dimension, and I just failed mentally to, you know,
00:48:57I was checking out when things like that were happening, you know.
00:49:01How do you feel about that?
00:49:02I know that you're very connected spiritually.
00:49:04I'm not looking to have a partner who is so similar to me
00:49:09because then there's, like, a limit to the growth there.
00:49:14Like, to me, to be able to have a partner who has these differences
00:49:18and is able to introduce me to a whole new world,
00:49:22that's where the magic is for me, and, like, that's what balances me,
00:49:26and I want to be able to balance my partner the same way.
00:49:30Oh, sure.
00:49:30You know, I mean, there's a difference between unity and sameness.
00:49:34You know, you know, people, you can be unified and be different.
00:49:38Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:49:39I would say that I would like to be with someone that we share the same interests.
00:49:43Not exactly everything is alike, you know, but, like, for me, I mean, that's...
00:49:48I go to the gym every day.
00:49:50But she's a Pilates instructor, no?
00:49:52Yeah, she is a Pilates instructor, but it's just a totally different...
00:49:55Like, for me, it's a totally...
00:49:56I did Pilates with her, and for me, it's a totally different experience, you know?
00:49:59So you want somebody who does exactly what you do?
00:50:02I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that.
00:50:05You would say that.
00:50:06I would say that.
00:50:07No.
00:50:08Well, even, let's say, because I could play, like, yes, going to the gym,
00:50:12but it's like, oh, I'm going to the gym at 6 in the morning.
00:50:15Like, do you want to come?
00:50:17Like, if you really want to share that interest with someone,
00:50:20you can check in with that person and be like,
00:50:22what time does the gym work for you?
00:50:24Like, if that's an interest you want to share together.
00:50:27So it made me feel like there was, like, a lack of care of what, like, my plans were,
00:50:33even making, like, plans together.
00:50:35But there was also, like, lack of affection in so many other ways.
00:50:39There was no, like, physical touch.
00:50:41Whether that was, like, a hug coming home from work
00:50:44make me feel that you were even interested.
00:50:48So there was, like, the love bucket wasn't, like, filled
00:50:53for there to be flexibility in other areas being put in.
00:51:01I hear you. I hear you, and I'm sorry that I couldn't do that.
00:51:04But I just never felt that, you know, that magnetism towards her.
00:51:09I believe that sometimes when we don't allow ourselves
00:51:13to experience something outside of what we might feel
00:51:16and you're like, I'm not feeling good about this,
00:51:21it's not clicking right now, you know,
00:51:24I think sometimes you're going to do yourself a disservice
00:51:26if you just go on those feelings
00:51:27and not go on the fact that this person has all the values that are necessary,
00:51:32this person has all the qualities that are necessary
00:51:34to make me an incredible partner.
00:51:37But because I don't feel it right now,
00:51:39eh, I'm going to let it pass.
00:51:42Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:51:43No, I hear you, yeah.
00:51:44And, you know, she does fulfill a lot of the things
00:51:47that I was looking for.
00:51:49And we really got to know each other deeply,
00:51:51you know, to figure out if this makes sense or not.
00:51:55And that's something I've never done, you know,
00:51:57and I really like that.
00:51:58And for me, I told you, like,
00:52:01this is the first healthy relationship that I've been in.
00:52:04And, like, I'm thankful for that alone
00:52:08because I've never experienced that before.
00:52:10It's powerful.
00:52:11That says so much.
00:52:14Well, the time has now come for you to decide.
00:52:19Do you want to stay married?
00:52:22Or do you want to get a divorce?
00:52:27The only thing that I was lacking in this marriage
00:52:30was the affection or feeling
00:52:32like I was desired by my partner.
00:52:36But I enjoy kind of just, like,
00:52:40that childlike nature
00:52:42that we were able to enjoy with one another,
00:52:46just, like, having fun, laughing,
00:52:48and just not taking life, like, so serious.
00:52:51So I am choosing to...
00:52:54to end this marriage
00:52:56and get a divorce
00:52:57based on the simple fact
00:53:00we weren't truly compatible.
00:53:03Carla, I had so much fun with you.
00:53:12And I think we made this unforgettable experience
00:53:17and adventure,
00:53:18and we killed it.
00:53:20You know, we really had a good time.
00:53:23But I think we should get divorced.
00:53:27And, you know, I think that going forward,
00:53:32I have nothing but great things to say about you,
00:53:34and I'll always see you in a positive light.
00:53:36Thank you.
00:53:37I feel like my forever person
00:53:39will not be able to say goodbye to me
00:53:41because of my athleticism
00:53:45or because of my spirituality.
00:53:47To me, that's not enough of something
00:53:49to say goodbye to someone
00:53:51that you see a future with
00:53:53or want to see a future with.
00:53:55I wish nothing but the best
00:53:57for both of you
00:53:57in that you both find partners
00:53:59to share the love that you have to offer.
00:54:02I agree.
00:54:03Well, I love love,
00:54:04so I give this love to everybody.
00:54:07I think it's a future.
00:54:09Then you will find it.
00:54:10Good nonverbal communication.
00:54:11Yeah.
00:54:14I love love.
00:54:15I mean, it's just...
00:54:17I love love.
00:54:19I'm going to keep on
00:54:20just rolling through life.
00:54:22Okay.
00:54:22All right, all right, please.
00:54:24Okay.
00:54:25Thank you, guys.
00:54:27That was great.
00:54:29That was beautiful.
00:54:31Thank you, guys.
00:54:31Thank you.
00:54:32Thank you so much.
00:54:34It was a pleasure.
00:54:35It was a pleasure.
00:54:36Thank you so much.
00:54:37Appreciate you.
00:54:38I didn't go into this,
00:54:40you know, expecting a divorce
00:54:42or planning for a divorce.
00:54:44You're an awesome man.
00:54:44Thank you, man.
00:54:45I appreciate it.
00:54:45I'm glad you guys saw that.
00:54:47Oh, absolutely.
00:54:47I see your heart, man.
00:54:48Thank you.
00:54:49I appreciate it.
00:54:50Carla and I just shared such a unique experience.
00:54:55So I hope that we find ourselves in a place
00:54:59where we can have a good friendship.
00:55:01You are so happy.
00:55:02Oh, I love you.
00:55:03Thank you.
00:55:04I didn't come here for a friendship.
00:55:06I came here for a marriage.
00:55:08Juancho, not being able to, you know,
00:55:11deal with me being a magical unicorn.
00:55:14I get it.
00:55:15Not everybody is open to receiving.
00:55:18You know, but it's cool.
00:55:20I see my light
00:55:21and I won't do my life for anyone.
00:55:23And I know the love of my life is out there.
00:55:25So out with the old,
00:55:27out with the new, out with the new.
00:55:30Ciao, ciao.
00:55:32Ciao, ciao, poncho.
00:55:48Decision day is here.
00:55:49It's a lot of high stakes today.
00:55:51I got some nerves in my stomach,
00:55:52that's for sure.
00:55:54Didn't get the best sleep last night.
00:55:55Just a lot to think about.
00:55:59I'm just a little bit nervous
00:56:01and nothing else is going to happen.
00:56:02Nothing happened, you know, in a day.
00:56:06I set out on this journey to find love.
00:56:09When I first saw Camille,
00:56:11I felt so blessed.
00:56:14You look beautiful.
00:56:16Thank you.
00:56:16Thank you.
00:56:17You look amazing, too.
00:56:18I couldn't believe she was my wife.
00:56:24Camille gives me purpose
00:56:26and makes me feel needed.
00:56:28Oh, my God.
00:56:30I look at her, it's just...
00:56:31her smile brightens up her room.
00:56:34Oh, my goodness.
00:56:35Camille is very competitive and adventurous.
00:56:38Not on my watch.
00:56:42Life is never boring with her.
00:56:44Come on, go back to one.
00:56:46Don't be a little bitch.
00:56:47Oh.
00:56:51See how strong those hands are.
00:56:53Come on, go back to me.
00:56:54Camille is sweet.
00:56:56She's confident.
00:56:58She's radiant and funny at the same time.
00:57:02All right.
00:57:03Looking good.
00:57:03Looking good.
00:57:05And the companion I've always longed for.
00:57:07And, you know, we've really been able
00:57:11to tackle the ups and downs of our journey.
00:57:15I feel like I've been being the emotional one
00:57:18for the most part in this whole marriage.
00:57:21I feel like a lot of the stuff that bothers me
00:57:24is just, you know, almost rather just,
00:57:26okay, I'm not even going to worry about this.
00:57:28Camille struggles with vulnerability
00:57:30and doesn't share how she feels in the moment.
00:57:33You feel like if you, like, don't think you're in love,
00:57:36that's going to play a factor?
00:57:37For saying yes on decision day?
00:57:38Yeah.
00:57:38Right now it is still so early.
00:57:43I feel like Camille would say yes,
00:57:45but I don't feel like 100%.
00:57:47I've laid it all on the line
00:57:48and I've done everything I could,
00:57:51but if anything could happen,
00:57:53maybe this just all becomes overwhelming
00:57:56and it becomes too real
00:57:57and she doesn't feel good enough to say yes.
00:58:00When I first saw Thomas,
00:58:04I thought he was handsome with an endearing smile.
00:58:07Hi, nice to meet you.
00:58:12It's all right, it's all right, it's all right.
00:58:14Thomas is supportive, empathetic.
00:58:16Thank you.
00:58:17I appreciate your effort.
00:58:19Authentic and kind.
00:58:20The end goal is me to make you feel comfortable around me,
00:58:25for you to trust me.
00:58:26That's definitely, I think, what I need.
00:58:27I just want to have more time with you, okay?
00:58:29He cares a great deal about making me feel loved
00:58:31and always putting a smile on my face.
00:58:33First basket.
00:58:34First basket.
00:58:35He's a little stiff, a little straight,
00:58:37but he is down to try just about anything.
00:58:40I've got you.
00:58:42And it's been fun.
00:58:43I want to be here at first sight because I'm ready for that
00:58:47two lifelong apartment that makes life fun and enjoyable.
00:58:51Where are we within the state of a constant demand?
00:58:54Oh, I'm curious.
00:58:55I'm a dad.
00:58:56I'm a dad.
00:58:57Dad.
00:58:58Okay.
00:58:59But it's also down to ride through the storms together
00:59:02and, you know, choose each other no matter what.
00:59:05She is here to do that.
00:59:07Maybe I'm not, like, traditionally the type of guy that she dates.
00:59:11I would probably say what's missing is a little smoothness
00:59:17and the swag factor.
00:59:20At 42 years old, Thomas is very complacent
00:59:23and plays things that's a little too safe for me.
00:59:26I would love to be self-employed around real estate,
00:59:28just being able to, like, move how I want to move
00:59:30and, like, determine my day-to-day schedule.
00:59:33I'm so impressed by that.
00:59:35Like, that's, like, I wasn't even thinking about that.
00:59:37Thomas struggles with setting goals and planning for the future.
00:59:40He's not very assertive and rarely takes the lead
00:59:42when I wish he would be the leader in our marriage.
00:59:45We both have our leases that go for a while after decision day,
00:59:49so after we move out of here, like, where's the next move?
00:59:51Yeah, those are all real things.
00:59:57But I see the reasons why Thomas and I were matched.
01:00:00I think what's kind of missing is have the same mindsets
01:00:04when it comes to the future and building a future together.
01:00:08Their relationship has been smooth.
01:00:10You know, there hasn't been a lot of sway.
01:00:13I mean, they've had some challenges, comparatively speaking.
01:00:16I think they're both so committed to this,
01:00:19and they really want to make things work.
01:00:21I did worry in the beginning,
01:00:23and it's sort of a little floating worry that I have,
01:00:26that she's so used to a certain kind of swag.
01:00:30Yeah, we can have these ideas about swag.
01:00:32Swag is so multifaceted.
01:00:35I think you want your partner to have confidence.
01:00:38You know, I think that's what you're looking for.
01:00:40Yeah.
01:00:40But I think he's grown in that.
01:00:42I think he looks at her and he sees in her, you know,
01:00:44as someone who's actually going to build him up
01:00:46and help him, you know, to become the man he wants to be.
01:00:49Yeah, yeah.
01:00:50And I got to admit about Thomas.
01:00:51I had my reservations.
01:00:53Oh, yeah, we all did.
01:00:54I'm kind of like, is he really ready for a woman like her?
01:00:57Because she's, she's said some things, right,
01:01:00that could kind of drop his ego a bit.
01:01:02But he's, he's handled it like a champ.
01:01:04Okay, well, let's go find out and go see Camille Thomas.
01:01:07Let's do it.
01:01:07Oh.
01:01:14Hey, buddy, I'm Dapper.
01:01:22Let me set this back here real quick.
01:01:24Okay, I was going to say, I think it's Decision Day.
01:01:28Yeah, it's Decision Day.
01:01:29Yeah, yeah, Game Day, it's the same thing.
01:01:30Good to see you.
01:01:31Yeah.
01:01:32How's it going, buddy?
01:01:33You're looking sharp, man.
01:01:34Thank you.
01:01:34Thank you as well.
01:01:35All right.
01:01:35Looking very Dapper.
01:01:37Thank you so much.
01:01:38Good to see you.
01:01:39You too, yeah.
01:01:40All right.
01:01:41You know, you're different from when we first met you.
01:01:44Okay.
01:01:45I see, I see, I see change.
01:01:46I see growth.
01:01:48She's swagging you out.
01:01:49I see that.
01:01:50We got the woman's touch.
01:01:52You know, you know, which is always a good thing.
01:01:54Do you feel like you've changed, Kimmy?
01:01:56Yeah, I feel like there's small things that I've changed.
01:01:58I was, you know, going into this,
01:02:00I wanted to be open to everything.
01:02:02And I like the influence that Camille has given me.
01:02:06So if there's little things I can do to make her happy,
01:02:08I'd love to do it.
01:02:09And speak of Camille.
01:02:09Yeah.
01:02:10Hey.
01:02:10Whoa.
01:02:11Whoa.
01:02:17Hello.
01:02:18I love you.
01:02:20Of course.
01:02:21Do you know where to go first?
01:02:22I'd ask you, Paul.
01:02:24Look at you.
01:02:25Oh, my God.
01:02:26Oh, my goodness.
01:02:27We're matching.
01:02:28Yeah, that's right.
01:02:31Well, but I'm not worthy.
01:02:32I mean, oh, my goodness.
01:02:33No.
01:02:34I know, right?
01:02:35A vision in red.
01:02:36Oh, man.
01:02:38Thomas and Camille.
01:02:39Eight weeks ago, you married a stranger.
01:02:42What were some of the things that surprised you about him?
01:02:47Oh, I would say how little he really cares about being embarrassed.
01:02:53in a good way.
01:02:55In a good way.
01:02:57Really?
01:02:58Yeah, you know, a lot of guys are always trying to play it too cool.
01:03:01And they're like, you know, they don't want to, in fear of, you know, not doing something
01:03:06right or looking silly, like, looking silly doing it.
01:03:10It's, he's never really, like, he's not leading with his ego.
01:03:14And he's always down for whatever.
01:03:16So that's been much appreciated.
01:03:19Yeah.
01:03:19That's so cool.
01:03:21Yeah.
01:03:21Camille's been amazing.
01:03:23She's a very loving person.
01:03:25She's an accommodator, but she's also a protector.
01:03:27So she's very strong, but not in, like, an outward or, like, very loud manner.
01:03:33She just has this confidence and she makes me believe in myself.
01:03:37She just makes me feel more confident and feel like I can do anything.
01:03:41So thank you.
01:03:41I love that.
01:03:43But there have been some rough spots, right?
01:03:45Mm-hmm.
01:03:45Mm-hmm.
01:03:46Yeah, for me, I think it'd be nice to not have to be, you know, the one that is always
01:03:53forward thinking or, like, figuring out the next move.
01:03:57You know, like, what are we doing after decision day?
01:04:00You know, like, part of me was starting to feel that if I hadn't brought it up, then
01:04:04move-out day would come and we'd be standing out on the curb with our bags, like, what now?
01:04:11She is a better planner than me.
01:04:13That's never been a strength of mine.
01:04:15It's something I work at.
01:04:17I, you know, I think long-term plans are important, but you think about, like, five-year plans,
01:04:23and I don't, I don't think I've ever made a five-year plan.
01:04:26No one wants to be the person who feels that all the decisions of everyday life are theirs.
01:04:34I think that is some of it, and, you know, I hate to bring up the past, but he was in
01:04:38a nine-year relationship that kind of, like, ended up fizzling out in the end.
01:04:44That's what I worry about.
01:04:46Like, what if he gets to that point with me?
01:04:48Ironically enough, um, it's similar for me, but not for the same reasons.
01:04:55This has gone great, um, but it's, like, a small sample size, and we have to spend the
01:05:00rest of our lives together.
01:05:02So I don't want to get to a point to where one of us stops, like, working at this.
01:05:07You know, that's something we've kind of talked about, um, all along the way, and early on is
01:05:11me saying, you know, part of me being kind of that dominant personality and needing to work
01:05:17on my softness.
01:05:18Um, I was telling him that part of him, you know, taking on some of those roles, I think
01:05:24directly kind of correlates with that, or, you know, just creating that space that allows
01:05:28me to feel like it's okay to let down some of those walls.
01:05:33So, with all that in mind, the time is here for you to decide.
01:05:38Okay.
01:05:43Do you want to stay married?
01:05:49Or do you want to get a divorce?
01:05:56Um, so this entire process has been, it's been crazy.
01:06:05I always overthink things, I always have to calculate things out and think about the risk.
01:06:11You have kind of put me through a lot physically.
01:06:15That's how I pulled hamstrings.
01:06:17I have more injuries in the last eight weeks than I've had over the last probably five years
01:06:23of my life.
01:06:24But, you know, it's been worth it to me.
01:06:28Um, so I have one thing for you.
01:06:29Mmm.
01:06:31Oh, wait a minute, man.
01:06:32Ahem.
01:06:33Okay, so you are the preferred, but I want a rematch.
01:06:40Wow.
01:06:41So, let's stay together.
01:06:43That's cute.
01:06:44Aw.
01:06:46Aw.
01:06:46Aw.
01:06:46Aw.
01:06:48Well, you know, it's, it's been such a roller coaster.
01:06:55You've helped me grow a lot, um, a lot more than I even knew I needed.
01:07:01And I think, you know, you do push me to be better.
01:07:06Um.
01:07:06But, yeah, I just.
01:07:09I just.
01:07:13A world where I wouldn't be married to you.
01:07:15So, I would love to stay married.
01:07:17Girl.
01:07:18Girl.
01:07:18Girl.
01:07:19Girl.
01:07:20Girl.
01:07:20Girl.
01:07:21Blood pressure going up.
01:07:22Oh, my God.
01:07:23I'm sorry.
01:07:24I couldn't help myself.
01:07:25Oh.
01:07:26Oh.
01:07:27I love it.
01:07:28I love it.
01:07:29I'm sorry.
01:07:30Oh, my God.
01:07:31You're a girl.
01:07:32You're a girl.
01:07:33You're a girl.
01:07:34You're a girl.
01:07:35You're a girl.
01:07:36Oh, my goodness.
01:07:37We are so happy.
01:07:39Yeah.
01:07:40This is the beginning of something beautiful.
01:07:43I felt confident in my decision.
01:07:45But I didn't think there'd be jokes involved.
01:07:48So, she definitely threw me for a loop.
01:07:50I had to throw my own little Camille razzle-dazzle in there.
01:07:52Just keep him on his toes.
01:07:54And, like, you just.
01:07:55You gotta know.
01:07:56This is what's to come forever.
01:07:57Like, you gotta just always, you know, be ready for the different sides of Camille.
01:08:02Woo!
01:08:03All right.
01:08:04All right.
01:08:05Pride first.
01:08:09I love you too.
01:08:12I love you too.
01:08:15Thanks to the rest of your life.
01:08:16Yes.
01:08:17Absolutely.
01:08:18I'll do it again.
01:08:19I think I'll make you so great.
01:08:39I'm at the warehouse.
01:08:42The whole crew, the whole crew's coming over.
01:08:46I'm curious to see the dynamic between Madison and David.
01:08:50You know, how they conduct themselves and, you know, in front of everybody, in front of me,
01:08:55I think will show a little bit too, you know, the respect that they actually do have for the situation and Michelle and myself and for themselves.
01:09:05What's going on?
01:09:08Juan.
01:09:09Como estas, senor?
01:09:10Como estas?
01:09:11It's been a while, man.
01:09:12Good seeing you.
01:09:13You as well.
01:09:14Hey, welcome to the Fantasy Factory.
01:09:15It's amazing.
01:09:16This is crazy, right?
01:09:17Yeah.
01:09:18Here, let's go upstairs.
01:09:19Regardless of the differences that everyone has had throughout this experience, we did share this bond.
01:09:24Hey, a long time no see.
01:09:25I know.
01:09:26Nice.
01:09:27I think when you go to battle together, it's something that you never forget.
01:09:28Yeah.
01:09:29Thank you.
01:09:30Pleasure.
01:09:31Yeah.
01:09:32No see.
01:09:33Yeah.
01:09:34Okay, cool.
01:09:35I'm gonna...
01:09:36Oh, man.
01:09:37I think it's fitting for us to come together and figure out, maybe resolve some issues and
01:09:53you know, get things in closure.
01:09:56Look who showed up!
01:09:57Carlita!
01:09:58Carlita!
01:09:59Hello!
01:10:00How are you?
01:10:02How are you?
01:10:03You know, I appreciate everybody coming out.
01:10:05I know, you know, we've had a lot of awkward moments, so I'm glad it's not so awkward.
01:10:09You know?
01:10:10Yes!
01:10:11It's not awkward.
01:10:12It's a little early.
01:10:14Yes!
01:10:15What do you want to drink?
01:10:16What else do you want to drink?
01:10:17I just breathed fire out of my nose.
01:10:18What's up, guys?
01:10:19Oh, hey, y'all!
01:10:20Hey!
01:10:21Hey!
01:10:22Hey!
01:10:23Hey!
01:10:24I'm not spicy!
01:10:25Oh, thank you!
01:10:26Hi, Ray!
01:10:27What's up, man?
01:10:28How you doing?
01:10:29How you doing?
01:10:30Good.
01:10:31Good.
01:10:32Good.
01:10:33What's up, man?
01:10:34What's going on, man?
01:10:35I just don't know what you're doing.
01:10:37Good.
01:10:38Good.
01:10:39Good.
01:10:40Good.
01:10:41Good.
01:10:42Good.
01:10:43Good.
01:10:44Good.
01:10:45Hey, man.
01:10:46Good.
01:10:47Good.
01:10:48Good.
01:10:49Good.
01:10:50Good.
01:10:51Good.
01:10:52What's up, man?
01:10:53How you doing?
01:10:54Oh, let me move out the way so you guys keep your hitch.
01:10:55I am taking a high road tonight.
01:10:56I am not stooping down low.
01:10:57I am not causing chaos.
01:10:58But, yeah, I'm more upset than I thought I would be with them walking in tonight.
01:11:03What's up, Madison?
01:11:04How are you?
01:11:05Good, how are you?
01:11:06Good.
01:11:07Good.
01:11:08Good.
01:11:09Good to see you, Danny.
01:11:10Bucky đó, họ hiện vào nhu grenade
01:11:13thật quý vị
01:11:14Chúng nó nhỉ
01:11:17Quý vị
01:11:19Chúng ta đã có� nên
01:11:21Để bắt đầu
01:11:22Có những kiểu mới
01:11:23Chúng ta sẽ thấy
01:11:24Chúng ta sẽ có những gì
01:11:25Chúng ta sẽ biết
01:11:25Chúng ta nhỉ
01:11:26Chúng ta muốn cho
01:11:27Chúng ta không bây giờ
01:11:31Chúng ta không bỏ
01:11:31Nhưng đeo
01:11:33Chúng ta sẽ không bỏ
01:11:34Chúng ta
01:11:34Chúng ta sẽ ứng những gì
01:11:34Chúng ta sẽ không bỏ
01:11:35Chúng ta
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