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A recent discussion at the India Today Mumbai Conclave addressed Mumbai's civic issues, including potholes, traffic congestion, and waterlogging. Panelists debated the city's trajectory, highlighting governance challenges posed by over 20 government bodies involved in its planning. A central proposal advocated for a single, accountable planning agency to streamline oversight and end blame-shifting. The slow pace of historical infrastructure development was noted, with only 11 kilometers of metro built in 11 years prior to 2014. While a government representative stated Mumbai is progressing, questions arose regarding whether the current infrastructure boom primarily benefits contractors and car owners or the city's residents. The conversation emphasized the need for a realistic 20-year development plan and increased consultation with civic society to enhance Mumbai's liveability. The debate also explored the effectiveness of a Chief Minister's war room versus a single agency like the BMC, and the potential for an elected, accountable mayor, drawing parallels with New York and London models, to provide focused leadership amidst upcoming BMC elections.
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00:00Ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to the India Today Mumbai conclave.
00:05Can you have a conclave on Mumbai without discussing Mumbai?
00:11A city that we all love, but we also get exasperated with.
00:17It is a city which is full of contradictions, but in many ways,
00:23India's strength is derived from cities like Mumbai and what happens in Mumbai.
00:28So, my colleague Sahil Joshi and I are very privileged to have a very special panel joining us on a simple topic.
00:36Is Mumbai sinking or is it rising?
00:40How should we see Mumbai?
00:42Please welcome Kaustub Dhause.
00:44Kaustub is the Chief Advisor Investment and Strategy to the Maharashtra Chief Minister.
00:49Please give him a big hand.
00:50Ashish Shailar is Minister in the Maharashtra Government and he is also the Guardian Minister for Mumbai.
00:58So, anything that goes wrong, you know where to call.
01:01Please take his mobile number.
01:03Varun Sardesai is the young face of the Shiv Sena UBT.
01:07It's MLA from Bandra.
01:09And Dr. Kavi Arya.
01:11Bandra East, Bandra East.
01:12Bandra East.
01:13No, it's very interesting.
01:15Ashish Shailar is a Bandra West MLA.
01:17Okay.
01:17And Varun Sardesai is Bandra East.
01:19Okay.
01:20So, these are the two Bandras.
01:22And we are joined by Dr. Kavi Arya.
01:24He is from Mumbai First, an organization committed to building a better Mumbai,
01:30as well as one of the most distinguished professors at IIT.
01:34Please give them all a very big hand, ladies and gentlemen.
01:38Before we start, I would just like to show some pictures here in the background.
01:45And we would like to throw a question, looking at those pictures.
01:50Is this the Mumbai at this point of time?
01:53Whenever we think of Mumbai, is this the Mumbai we think of?
01:58Please look at the picture.
01:59This is when the Mumbai gets waterlogged.
02:03This is an every year picture during the same time what we are talking about.
02:08This is the spread of the slums.
02:10There are a lot of slum redevelopment projects going on in Mumbai.
02:14This we face every day, including me.
02:17It takes me almost one and a half to two hours to reach my office,
02:22even if it is just 10 kilometers away from my house.
02:25And of course, the pothole riddled roads in Mumbai.
02:29And everybody sitting here is from Mumbai.
02:33So I would like to throw a question to the panelists one by one.
02:38When are we going to see the change in the city from these pictures?
02:43Kaustu, why don't you start?
02:45Is Mumbai sinking or is it rising?
02:47Sahil has shown four very evocative pictures,
02:50which would suggest to an outside viewer, Mumbai is sinking.
02:56There is absolutely no chance that Mumbai will ever sink.
03:00Mumbai is known and embodies the value of India.
03:03It is resilient.
03:06It is unstoppable.
03:08And it is dynamic.
03:10And yes, there are significant amount of challenges
03:12in the process of creating a world-class city.
03:15But I believe that we have a great opportunity.
03:19I think I would say that there are three fundamental areas
03:23in which the focus should be.
03:27One is mobility and infrastructure.
03:29I think there have been significant steps in the last 10-12 years
03:33which have been taken in this direction,
03:34whether it is the coastal road,
03:35whether it is the underground overhead metros,
03:38whether it is the Atal Setu,
03:39connectivity across the board,
03:41single ticketing and so on and so forth.
03:43The other issue that we have to deal with
03:45and which is why we are seeing this
03:47is that climate change is real.
03:50Sustainability and resilience
03:51should be the primary founding principles of policy
03:54when we talk about Mumbai.
03:56We have to protect our mangroves.
03:58We have to have a smarter drainage system.
04:00And we need to create an inclusive, equitable
04:03and a clean society.
04:05And I think that is very essential.
04:07And the third piece obviously is about innovation and jobs.
04:10Mumbai today is at the brink of a very important moment
04:15in the history of India.
04:17It's the financial capital, but is it prepared?
04:19So the question we are asking here today is that
04:21is Mumbai ready for 2047?
04:24Is Mumbai ready to become a global city?
04:26I think there are reasons that need to be addressed
04:31at the level of governance,
04:33at the level of execution.
04:34People need to be given logical answers
04:37and there has to be execution.
04:40And I think it is very, very essential
04:42that we follow this in a systematic manner.
04:46Okay, we'll come to the details in a moment.
04:48But Sahil, you want to ask our guardian minister,
04:52while we talk about 2047,
04:54we are in 2025, Mr. Shailar.
04:57All these pictures that Sahil has shown today
04:59are all what is happening now.
05:01Today's Mumbaikers don't want to know
05:04what will happen in 2047.
05:06They also want to know what's going to happen
05:07immediately in the next five years.
05:09Beyond the coastal road, the metro projects,
05:12the infrastructure projects by this government
05:13and successive governments have put focus.
05:16Can you tell us one thing
05:18that will make Mumbai future ready
05:20in the next five years,
05:22that will transform Mumbai?
05:23Let me first tell you that
05:25when you ask me a question
05:27whether Mumbai is sinking or rising,
05:30I can say that Mumbai is progressing.
05:34And when the progress,
05:35you have to look,
05:35you have to see the procedure.
05:37This is a continued process.
05:39So in that process,
05:40Mumbai is progressing.
05:42Progressing meaning more potholes today
05:43than we had five years ago.
05:45Maybe one may have a debate on the same,
05:47but I can tell you frankly,
05:48when you ask me the question
05:49whether coastal road,
05:53metro,
05:53something more than that
05:54has happened or not.
05:56The answer is yes.
05:58Aggressively.
05:59It's in the process
05:59and it has been done.
06:01Take a simple way.
06:02What was the suburban railways,
06:05routine, transport, lines,
06:07whether it has been enhanced?
06:09Yes, the answer is yes.
06:11Whether the trips
06:11of the Mumbai suburban railway
06:13has been enhanced in the number?
06:15Yes, answer is yes.
06:17We will see the gap
06:18between the platform
06:19and the railway,
06:21the bottom of the railway,
06:23railway locomotive.
06:25Has that been reduced
06:26to reduce the accident?
06:27The answer is yes.
06:28If you ask me question
06:29whether the Mumbai
06:30was unsafe prior,
06:32what is safe now?
06:33The answer is
06:34CCTV cameras
06:34has been put up.
06:35Yes.
06:36If you ask me
06:37the rehousing
06:37has been done
06:38for the slum dwellers
06:39or for the BDD chores
06:41or the people
06:43who are staying
06:43in the chores
06:44which is under 33.7,
06:46the answer is yes.
06:47If you ask me
06:48whether there was
06:48a restriction
06:49to the CRZ-related areas
06:51where the people
06:52were staying
06:53and they really wanted
06:54to have their own house
06:55repaired,
06:56Honorable Modi
06:57has given the
06:57relief in CRZ notification
07:00and therefore
07:01they can do that.
07:02The answer is yes.
07:03So there are many answers
07:04by which I can say yes
07:05and that's why I'm saying
07:06this is a process.
07:08If you say that
07:09today that is the picture
07:10and today you want
07:10this picture,
07:11it can't happen.
07:13The difference is that
07:14much prior to that
07:15there was no vision
07:17for Mumbai City.
07:18I can say that
07:18there is a clear vision
07:19and that gap
07:21has been fulfilled
07:22by nobody else
07:23than the Honorable
07:24Chief Minister
07:25Devendra Fadanwis
07:26because he has seen
07:27that metro can be
07:28executed nine routes.
07:30He has gone to Japan
07:31and he has said
07:32that we can make
07:33the Mumbai
07:34what you have shown
07:35just now
07:36the flood free.
07:38That is a process.
07:39I don't want to
07:40pass a buck
07:40what has happened
07:41earlier to that.
07:42Well, I can clearly
07:43see on Mumbai's
07:45skyline
07:45the projects
07:46which are going on
07:47at this point of time.
07:47Specifically
07:48if you talk about
07:49the metro construction
07:51which is going on
07:51at the same time
07:52the coastal road.
07:55There is a common
07:56thing which
07:56the Mumbai
07:57has been seeing
07:58since last 25 years
07:59is the everyday
08:00construction of
08:01either the roads
08:02or the metro.
08:04I mean everyday
08:04there is some
08:05or the other
08:05new construction.
08:06But I will
08:06I will just put up
08:07the basic things
08:09for the Mumbai
08:10because you have
08:11been a Mumbai
08:11municipal
08:12corporator as well.
08:14The two basic
08:15issues for the Mumbai
08:16curse.
08:16One is water supply
08:17and here are the
08:19numbers.
08:19The Mumbai is
08:20experiencing right now
08:2115% shortfall
08:23in the water supply
08:23is what the numbers
08:24I can see here
08:25at this point of time
08:26with 9% of the
08:27water lost
08:28due to leaks
08:29and evaporation.
08:32So that is the
08:33basic problem.
08:34The second thing
08:34very interestingly
08:35the slump residents
08:37receive around
08:3845 litres per capita
08:40per day
08:41below the recommendation
08:42of 135 litres.
08:44Every household
08:44should be getting
08:45at least 135 litres
08:46water supply.
08:47That is about
08:48the water supply.
08:49The second thing
08:49is about the
08:50sanitation challenges.
08:52We have spoken
08:53about Lariki Bahen
08:54but look at this.
08:55One toilet seat
08:56available for every
08:581820 women
09:00in Mumbai
09:01at this point of
09:02time.
09:03Is this the
09:03Mumbai we are
09:04looking at?
09:06Can we see
09:07some kind of
09:08a change?
09:08Because it
09:08definitely needs
09:09an immediate
09:10change.
09:12Let's take that
09:13what the numbers
09:14to Kavi Aria.
09:16I'll come to you
09:17Ashish.
09:18Kavi you are
09:19seeing this
09:19because in a
09:21city of the
09:22size of Mumbai
09:22there is a point
09:24in which Ashish
09:24Shailar says you
09:25can't transform
09:26Mumbai overnight.
09:27It's a process.
09:29But do you see
09:30any signs that
09:32give a hope
09:34sense of hope
09:35that Mumbai
09:35could be a more
09:36livable city today
09:37than it was
09:38let's say 10 or
09:3920 years ago?
09:42Thank you Rajdeep.
09:43Let me just
09:44rephrase this.
09:45What I am really
09:45concerned about is
09:46that
09:48half our population
09:50is below the
09:51age of 29.
09:53We should be
09:54asking ourselves
09:55the question
09:55what
09:56where is the
09:57wealth going to
09:58come from in
09:58Mumbai is
10:00going to come
10:00from people.
10:02The whole
10:02purpose of a
10:03city is to
10:04enable people
10:05to come here
10:06because where
10:08talent comes
10:09global capital
10:10comes and
10:11talent comes
10:12wherever there
10:12is livability.
10:14Right?
10:15So I am not
10:16happy with just
10:16infrastructure by
10:17itself if you
10:18say coastal
10:18road, this,
10:19that, metros
10:20and all that.
10:22Are we building
10:23all this for
10:25cars and for
10:26the contractors
10:27or are we
10:28building it for
10:29the people?
10:30So for the
10:30people I think
10:31to make Mumbai
10:32more livable
10:32whatever that
10:33means is much
10:34more important
10:35and I think we
10:36need to work
10:38along that
10:39sense and for
10:40that I feel
10:41that there needs
10:41to be far more
10:42consultation with
10:43the civic society
10:45like the
10:46government agencies
10:47can work with
10:48agencies like
10:49Mumbai First
10:50which can
10:50aggregate civic
10:52opinion and
10:53co-create
10:54infrastructure with
10:56the government
10:57which we are not
10:57seeing enough of.
10:58No but give me
10:58an example,
10:59give me an
10:59example, you
11:00know, where a
11:01practical example
11:03where you see
11:03there can be
11:05public-private
11:07partnership or
11:08citizen-state
11:09partnership that
11:10can make a city
11:11livable.
11:12Okay, we've got a
11:13wonderful example.
11:15Mumbai First
11:15played a small
11:16role 25 years
11:17ago when it
11:19was concerned
11:19that a lot of
11:20business is going
11:20away from Mumbai
11:21to Calcutta and
11:23Delhi.
11:25At that time,
11:26it commissioned
11:26a McKinsey report
11:27which came up
11:28with a Mumbai
11:28vision report
11:29and they
11:31formed an
11:32inter-ministerial,
11:33they helped
11:34the CM at
11:35that time form
11:35an inter-ministerial
11:36committee to
11:38look at the
11:39infrastructure of
11:40Mumbai.
11:41Almost 70%
11:43of that report
11:44has been
11:45implemented and
11:45that included
11:46things like
11:46Metro, Navi
11:47Mumbai Airport,
11:48Atal Zetu Link,
11:50Sea Link and
11:50all that.
11:50So that's an
11:51example of
11:53civic society
11:54working with
11:55the government
11:55through these
11:57kind of agencies
11:58and making
11:58change happen.
11:59So 20 years
12:00later you have
12:00all these things.
12:01I won't say
12:01that Mumbai
12:02First is
12:02responsible.
12:03I'm just
12:03saying that
12:04there were
12:05energies in
12:06the government
12:06willing to
12:07listen,
12:07there were
12:08IIS officers
12:08who were
12:09willing to
12:09listen,
12:09there were
12:10civic society
12:11members who
12:12were willing
12:12to listen,
12:13industrialists
12:13who want to
12:14talk about
12:14these things.
12:15So when
12:15people come
12:16together,
12:17these kind
12:17of ideas
12:18take place.
12:19But Varun
12:20Sardesai is
12:21part of the
12:22problem that
12:23while the
12:23ideas are
12:24there,
12:24there are
12:24also
12:24multiplicity
12:25of
12:25authorities.
12:27There's the
12:27Maharashtra
12:27government,
12:28there's the
12:28BMC,
12:29there's
12:29MMRDA,
12:31there are,
12:31if you look
12:32at New
12:32Mumbai,
12:33there is
12:33Sitco,
12:34there are
12:34far too
12:35many
12:35organizations
12:36and therefore
12:37to have a
12:37concerted plan
12:38for Mumbai
12:39is extremely
12:40difficult.
12:41even there
12:42is no one
12:42therefore when
12:43something goes
12:44wrong like
12:44waterlogging,
12:46who is
12:47accountable
12:48when things
12:49go wrong
12:49in Mumbai?
12:50You can't
12:50only place
12:51it at
12:51Mantra
12:51will turn
12:53to BMC,
12:53BMC will
12:54say,
12:55you know,
12:55will throw
12:56its hands
12:56up.
12:57Do you
12:57need a
12:59different way
13:00of running
13:00Mumbai?
13:01The
13:01Shiv Sena
13:02model won't
13:02work anymore.
13:04I first
13:05want to
13:06disagree with
13:06you.
13:07Mumbai
13:08agrees with
13:10the Shiv Sena
13:10model.
13:11And Mumbai
13:11will continue
13:12to agree
13:12with the Shiv Sena
13:13model.
13:14Because you
13:14were in
13:14charge of
13:15the BMC
13:15for decades.
13:16I think
13:16the Mumbai
13:17cars know
13:17it very
13:17well.
13:18They've
13:18been blessing
13:19us with
13:20their votes
13:20till now.
13:21I'm sure
13:21they'll
13:21continue to
13:22do so.
13:23I'm not
13:23here to
13:23make a
13:24political
13:24pitch.
13:25So I
13:25will first
13:26address the
13:26question that
13:27you asked
13:27me.
13:29First of
13:29all, I
13:30think there
13:30are more
13:30than some
13:3120
13:31government
13:31agencies
13:32that operate
13:33in Mumbai.
13:34So if
13:35we were to
13:35make a
13:36real
13:38concrete
13:38solution,
13:39I think
13:39the first
13:40step
13:40should be
13:41that there
13:41should be
13:41only one
13:42planning agency
13:43for Mumbai.
13:44I'll give
13:45you a very
13:45small example
13:46of my
13:46constituency.
13:48There's a
13:48Vakula
13:48junction in
13:49my
13:49constituency
13:50where every
13:51single day
13:51commuters
13:52face at
13:53least 1.5
13:54to 2
13:54hours of
13:55traffic.
13:56Now there's
13:56a new
13:57bridge that
13:57has been
13:57inaugurated
13:58which has
13:58been built
13:59by the
13:59MMRD.
14:00Within
14:007 days
14:01there were
14:01portals on
14:02the bridge
14:02and hence
14:03the contractor
14:04has been
14:04fined some
14:0510 lakh
14:05rupees.
14:07Below
14:07the new
14:08bridge
14:08there is
14:09a flyer
14:11on the
14:11Western
14:11Express
14:12Highway
14:12that is
14:13been
14:13maintained
14:14by MSRDC
14:15which has
14:15potholes and
14:16the contractor
14:17there has
14:17also been
14:18fined 5
14:18lakh rupees.
14:20Below
14:20the bridge
14:20is a
14:22highway,
14:23the Western
14:23Express
14:23Highway that
14:24has been
14:24maintained by
14:25the BMC
14:26Highway cell
14:26where there
14:28are potholes
14:28and that
14:29contractor has
14:30also been
14:30fined.
14:31And alongside
14:32that express
14:33way there is
14:33a service
14:3410 lakh,
14:345 lakhs
14:35and the
14:36cost is
14:36going down?
14:37It is,
14:38I mean,
14:39it's a joke
14:40sometimes.
14:41Just yesterday
14:41I read that
14:42even the
14:42contractor for
14:43the Atal
14:43Setu has
14:44been fined
14:44some amount
14:45of money.
14:46The reason
14:47why I make
14:48this point
14:48is because
14:49there are so
14:49many multiple
14:50agencies involved
14:51it is very
14:52easy to
14:52shift the
14:53blame to
14:54other agencies.
14:55No,
14:55no,
14:55but I would
14:56just like to
14:56make one
14:57point here.
14:57I mean,
14:58I get your
14:59point and
14:59that's why
15:00we showed
15:00the pictures
15:00of the
15:01potholes.
15:01But that
15:01is not the
15:02case today.
15:03I mean,
15:03we have
15:04been seeing
15:04this since
15:04last 20
15:05years.
15:06The pothole
15:06problem has
15:07not been
15:07solved since
15:08last 20,
15:0825 years.
15:09It has been
15:10always there.
15:11It's not
15:11something which
15:12is happening
15:12just yesterday.
15:14No,
15:14you're saying
15:15a single
15:15planning authority,
15:16who will it
15:17be accountable
15:17to?
15:18Yes,
15:18I agree.
15:19There has
15:19to be a
15:20single
15:20planning authority
15:21because I
15:21will tell you.
15:22Accountable
15:22to whom?
15:23Who will
15:24oversee them?
15:25Accountable
15:26to the
15:26Mumbai
15:26curse.
15:27Let's
15:27make BMC
15:28the single
15:28planning authority.
15:29We blame
15:30BMC for
15:30everything.
15:31Why don't
15:31we make
15:32them the
15:32single
15:32planning
15:33authority?
15:34I'll tell
15:35you so
15:35many instances
15:36when the
15:37BMC has
15:38probably made
15:38a road and
15:39seven or
15:40eight days
15:40later,
15:41some
15:41Mahanagar
15:42gas or
15:42some
15:43internet
15:43Wi-Fi
15:43line people
15:44have come
15:45in and
15:45they've
15:45said we
15:45want to
15:46dig up
15:46the road
15:46because we
15:47want to
15:47lay down
15:47our
15:47pipelines.
15:48Some
15:48or the
15:49other
15:49utility
15:49person
15:50will
15:50come
15:50in and
15:50all
15:50of
15:50us
15:51face
15:51these
15:51issues.
15:51It's
15:51not
15:52just
15:52me.
15:52If
15:53you
15:53ask
15:53Kashi
15:53Ji
15:54he's
15:54going
15:54to
15:54agree
15:54with
15:55me.
15:55So
15:55this
15:55is
15:56beyond
15:56politics.
15:57So
15:57I
15:57think
15:58first
15:59of
15:59all
15:59what
15:59we
15:59need
15:59to
16:00do
16:00is
16:00make
16:00a
16:00single
16:01planning
16:01agency
16:02for
16:02Mumbai
16:02and
16:03secondly
16:03the
16:04second
16:04step
16:04according
16:05to
16:05me
16:05is
16:06that
16:06we
16:06should
16:07have
16:07a
16:07clear
16:0720
16:08year
16:08plan
16:09for
16:09Mumbai
16:10that
16:10is
16:11very
16:11realistic.
16:12The
16:12plan
16:12that
16:13we
16:13have
16:13right
16:13now
16:13is
16:14completely
16:14idealistic.
16:15It
16:15is
16:16not
16:16in
16:16touch
16:16with
16:16reality.
16:17Let
16:17let
16:17Kaustub
16:18you
16:19think
16:19that's
16:19possible
16:19a
16:20single
16:20planning
16:20agency
16:21for
16:21Mumbai
16:21that
16:22is
16:22accountable
16:22to
16:22the
16:23citizens
16:23and
16:24a
16:2420
16:24year
16:25realistic
16:26plan
16:26that
16:26you
16:26are
16:27able
16:27to
16:27share
16:27with
16:27Mumbai
16:28cars.
16:28So
16:29the
16:29problem
16:29is
16:30real.
16:30We
16:31have
16:31faced
16:31it.
16:31I
16:32remember
16:32that
16:32we
16:32had
16:33a
16:33very
16:33unfortunate
16:34statistic
16:35when
16:36we
16:36came
16:36into
16:37power
16:37in
16:372014.
16:38We
16:38had
16:39built
16:3911
16:39kilometers
16:40of
16:40metro
16:40in
16:4011
16:41years.
16:42And
16:42the
16:42reason
16:42is
16:42what
16:42Varun
16:43just
16:43cited.
16:44There
16:44are
16:44multiple
16:45agencies
16:45involved.
16:46But
16:46the
16:46solution
16:46to
16:47that
16:47we
16:47put
16:47was
16:48the
16:48chief
16:48minister's
16:48war room
16:49on
16:49infrastructure.
16:50And
16:50when we
16:51put
16:51the
16:51CM's
16:52war room
16:52on
16:52infrastructure
16:53we
16:53were
16:53able
16:53to
16:53get
16:54all
16:54these
16:54utilities
16:56have
16:56very
16:57senior
16:57officers
16:57and
16:58most
16:58of
16:58them
16:59don't
16:59see
16:59eye
16:59to
16:59eye.
17:00Which
17:00delays
17:01the
17:01whole
17:02process.
17:02They
17:02don't
17:02agree
17:03on
17:03many
17:03points.
17:04There
17:04are
17:04debates
17:04and
17:04conversations.
17:05The
17:05file
17:12large
17:13scale.
17:14That's
17:14the
17:14reason
17:14why
17:15you
17:15see
17:15the
17:15infrastructure
17:15drain.
17:16A
17:16single
17:17planning
17:17agency
17:17will
17:18get
17:18into
17:18too
17:18much
17:18of
17:19conversation
17:19and
17:19politics
17:20because
17:20there
17:20are
17:20so
17:21many
17:21different
17:21agencies
17:22and
17:22then
17:22to
17:22combine
17:23them
17:23into
17:23a
17:23single
17:23one.
17:24A
17:24mechanism
17:25which
17:25is
17:25driven
17:25by
17:26the
17:26government
17:26so
17:27that
17:27it
17:27becomes
17:28like
17:29a
17:29review
17:29mechanism
17:29so
17:30that
17:30large
17:30infrastructure
17:31projects
17:31can
17:31be
17:31executed
17:32in
17:32time
17:32is
17:33the
17:33solution.
17:34And
17:34I
17:34also
17:35believe
17:35that
17:36we
17:36have
17:36to
17:36stop
17:37giving
17:37these
17:38excuses
17:38to
17:39the
17:39people.
17:39There
17:39has
17:40to
17:40be
17:40a
17:40point
17:40in
17:40time
17:41when
17:41there
17:41has
17:41to
17:41be
17:41the
17:42accountability
17:42has
17:43to
17:43set
17:43in.
17:44And
17:44it
17:44is
17:44the
17:44time
17:45when
17:45now
17:45you
17:45start
17:46defining
17:46what
17:46you
17:47will
17:47deliver
17:47to
17:47Mumbai
17:47in
17:48a
17:48timely
17:49fashion.
17:50We
17:50know
17:51for a
17:51matter
17:51of
17:51fact
17:52that
17:52we
17:52can
17:52create
17:53roads
17:53without
17:53potholes.
17:54We
17:54know
17:54for a
17:55matter
17:55of
17:55fact
17:55that
17:55we
17:55can
17:56do
17:56a
17:56little
17:56bit
17:56better.
17:57We
17:57are
17:57far
17:58better
17:58than
17:58what
17:58we
17:58are
17:58doing
17:59today.
17:59We
17:59just
18:00need
18:00to
18:00tell
18:00ourselves
18:01and
18:01we
18:01need
18:01to
18:01put
18:02a
18:02non-corrupt
18:03ecosystem
18:03in
18:04place
18:04so
18:04that
18:04we
18:04can
18:05deliver
18:05the
18:05goods.
18:05That
18:25it's
18:26not
18:26merely
18:27the
18:27redevelopment
18:27project.
18:28It's
18:28not
18:28merely
18:28the
18:28building
18:29roads.
18:29It's
18:29not
18:30merely
18:30building
18:31metro
18:31infrastructure
18:32but
18:32there
18:32is
18:33much
18:33more
18:33to
18:33it.
18:33And
18:34to
18:34add
18:34to
18:34what
18:35Sahil
18:35said
18:35to
18:35take
18:36off
18:36from
18:36what
18:36Kaustub
18:37said
18:37how
18:37do
18:37you
18:37create
18:37a
18:37non-corrupt
18:38ecosystem
18:39when
18:40for
18:40the
18:40last
18:4050
18:41years
18:42people
18:42have
18:42benefited
18:43from
18:43an
18:43extremely
18:44corrupted
18:44and
18:44unaccountable
18:45system.
18:46How
18:46do
18:47you
18:47create
18:47a
18:47non-corrupt
18:48ecosystem
18:49with a
18:49clear
18:49vision
18:50for the
18:50next
18:5110-20
18:51years
18:52realistic
18:52vision?
18:53Let me
18:54first reply
18:54what
18:55Kavi has
18:55just
18:56mentioned.
18:56We
18:56were
18:56replying
18:58the
18:58question
18:58which
18:58you
18:58asked
18:59me
18:59and
19:00which
19:00you
19:00have
19:00shown
19:01about
19:01the
19:01flooding
19:01of
19:02Mumbai
19:02and
19:02all.
19:03So
19:03we
19:03are
19:03not
19:03concerned
19:04about
19:05other
19:06part
19:06of
19:06it.
19:07You
19:07are
19:07only
19:07replying
19:07to
19:08your
19:08question
19:08number
19:09one.
19:09Number
19:09two
19:10as
19:11ideally
19:11Varun
19:11has
19:12said
19:12it
19:13is
19:13much
19:14needed
19:14to
19:14have
19:14one
19:14implementing
19:15agency.
19:17We
19:17are
19:17for
19:17it.
19:18It's
19:18ideal.
19:19But
19:19it's
19:19possible.
19:20The
19:20answer
19:20is
19:21no.
19:22Forget
19:22all
19:23other
19:23multiple
19:24agencies.
19:24Is
19:24it
19:24a
19:24political
19:25issue?
19:25No.
19:26I
19:26don't
19:26wish
19:26to
19:26comment
19:27on
19:27the
19:27same.
19:28I
19:28just
19:28wanted
19:28to
19:28explain
19:29the
19:29reality
19:29because
19:30today
19:30we
19:30wanted
19:30to
19:31show
19:31that
19:33the
19:33reality
19:34what
19:34it
19:34matters.
19:36Take
19:36it to
19:36BMC
19:36itself.
19:37Forget
19:38other
19:38agencies.
19:39In
19:39BMC
19:40only
19:40there
19:44road
19:44work
19:44does
19:44their
19:45work.
19:46Then
19:46BMC
19:46storm
19:46water
19:47does
19:47their
19:49own
19:49work.
19:49Then
19:50sewerage
19:50operation
19:50does
19:51their
19:51own
19:51work.
19:52Then
19:52water
19:52department
19:52does
19:53their
19:53own
19:53work.
19:54Is
19:54there
19:54consensus
19:55between
19:55all
19:56the
19:56department?
19:57Forget
19:57all
19:57other
19:58authorities.
19:59So
19:59we
20:00need
20:00to
20:00have
20:01something
20:01which
20:02as
20:02rightly
20:02stated
20:03by
20:03Kaustubhubh
20:04somebody
20:05who should
20:05take
20:05the
20:06onus
20:06for
20:07this
20:07city
20:08and
20:08you
20:08ask
20:09me
20:09Rajdeep
20:09you
20:10want
20:10to
20:10have
20:10uncorrupt
20:14example
20:14is
20:14there.
20:14How
20:15do
20:15you
20:15create
20:15this?
20:16Let
20:17me
20:17reply
20:17to
20:17that.
20:17Sorry
20:18this
20:18is
20:18the
20:18rare
20:18time
20:19that
20:19you
20:19would
20:19see
20:19two
20:19politicians
20:20team
20:21up
20:21against
20:21the
20:21bureaucracy.
20:23So
20:23the
20:23politicians
20:24are
20:24going
20:24to
20:24blame
20:24the
20:25bureaucracy
20:25is
20:25it
20:25now
20:26for
20:26Mumbai
20:26is
20:26I
20:27think
20:27Varun
20:28was
20:28little
20:29hasty
20:29he
20:29did
20:30not
20:30allow
20:30me
20:30to
20:30complete
20:32my
20:32answer.
20:32Please
20:32go
20:33ahead.
20:33I
20:33am
20:33not
20:33passing
20:34the
20:34buck.
20:34I
20:34am
20:44simple
20:44as
20:44that.
20:44Are
20:45you
20:46telling
20:47me
20:47an
20:47individual
20:48can
20:48transform
20:49Mumbai's
20:49fortunes?
20:50Are
20:50you
20:50saying
20:50that
20:51Devendra
20:51Fatnavis
20:52on his
20:52own
20:52can
20:53transform
20:53Mumbai's
20:54fortunes?
20:54Isn't
20:55that
20:55also
20:55putting
20:55too
20:55much
20:56onus
20:56on
20:56one
20:57person?
20:57Tomorrow
20:58he
20:58is
20:58not
20:58chief
20:58minister.
20:59What
20:59happens
20:59to
20:59Mumbai?
20:59Rajiv
21:00let
21:00me
21:00reply.
21:01If
21:01you
21:01ask
21:01the
21:02same
21:02to
21:02Devendra
21:02also
21:03he
21:03will
21:03say
21:03yes
21:03I
21:04will
21:04with
21:04my
21:04colleagues.
21:06So
21:06his
21:06answer
21:06is
21:06also
21:06inclusive.
21:07So
21:08don't
21:08try
21:08let's
21:09not
21:09make
21:09it
21:09the
21:09way
21:10that
21:10he
21:10individually
21:10I
21:11am
21:11saying.
21:11He
21:11means
21:12yes
21:12as
21:12a
21:12chief
21:12minister
21:13he
21:13with
21:14his
21:14colleague
21:14and
21:14his
21:14system
21:15including
21:15opposition.
21:17We
21:17are
21:17very
21:17clear
21:18about
21:18that.
21:19My
21:19point
21:19is
21:20that
21:20it
21:21is
21:21very
21:21interesting
21:22that
21:22the
21:22Mumbai
21:23city
21:23like
21:24Mumbai
21:24doesn't
21:25have
21:25a
21:26working
21:27municipal
21:27corporation
21:28a
21:28working
21:28body
21:29for
21:29municipal
21:29corporations
21:30since
21:30last
21:30more
21:31than
21:31five
21:31years
21:31almost.
21:33But
21:33I
21:33didn't
21:33see
21:33that
21:34Mumbai
21:34is
21:34missing
21:35their
21:35corporator.
21:36I
21:36mean
21:36I
21:36am
21:36really
21:36surprised.
21:38Nobody
21:38is
21:39raising
21:39their
21:39hand
21:39and
21:40saying
21:40that
21:40we
21:40don't
21:41have
21:41an
21:41elected
21:41corporator.
21:43And
21:43that
21:43is
21:43definitely
21:44a
21:44political
21:44question.
21:45I
21:45mean
21:45I
21:45would
21:45like
21:46both
21:46of
21:46you
21:46to
21:46answer
21:47this
21:47question.
21:47Is
21:48it
21:48the
21:48political
21:48reluctance
21:49of
21:49the
21:49Mumbai
21:50cars
21:50that
21:50nothing
21:51is
21:51being
21:51solved?
21:51Varun,
21:52not
21:52really
21:53I
21:53would
21:53invite
21:54you
21:54to
21:54visit
21:55any
21:55of
21:55the
21:55Mumbai
21:56offices
21:56in
21:57the
21:57evening
21:57and
21:58you
21:58would
21:58see
21:58how
21:59much
21:59Mumbai
21:59cars
22:00are
22:00actually
22:00missing
22:00the
22:00corporators.
22:01Because of
22:02lack of
22:03corporators.
22:05I
22:05think
22:06we
22:06have
22:06been
22:06asking
22:07for
22:07BMC
22:07elections
22:08for
22:08the
22:08last
22:08three
22:09years.
22:10Who
22:10says
22:11so?
22:11How
22:13do
22:14we
22:14say
22:14the
22:14common
22:15class
22:15is
22:15not
22:15asking
22:15for
22:16elections?
22:16Of
22:16course
22:16they
22:16are
22:17asking
22:17for
22:17elections.
22:17But
22:18can
22:18I
22:19ask
22:19you
22:19this
22:19Kavi
22:19which
22:20you
22:20know
22:20taking
22:21out
22:21from
22:21what
22:21Sahil
22:21again
22:22said
22:22is
22:22civic
22:23engagement.
22:24It's
22:24one
22:24thing
22:24to
22:24blame
22:25Ashish
22:25Shailar
22:26one
22:26thing
22:26to
22:26blame
22:26Varun
22:27Sardisai.
22:28When
22:28will
22:28Mumbai
22:29take
22:29responsibility
22:30for
22:30Mumbai?
22:31Each
22:31one
22:31in
22:32Mumbai
22:32is
22:32involved
22:32in
22:33his
22:33or
22:33her
22:33own
22:33activity.
22:34You
22:34don't
22:35see
22:35that
22:35kind
22:35of
22:36civic
22:36engagement
22:36that
22:37you
22:37see
22:37in
22:37some
22:37western
22:38cities.
22:38There
22:38are
22:38far
22:39greater
22:39investment
22:40that
22:40people
22:41are
22:41willing
22:41to
22:41make
22:42in
22:42their
22:42own
22:43city.
22:43Even
22:43during
22:43coastal
22:44road
22:44there
22:45was
22:45a
22:45battle
22:45between
22:45the
22:46environmentalists
22:46and
22:47those
22:47who
22:47wanted
22:48the
22:48coastal
22:48road.
22:48But
22:48by
22:49and
22:49large
22:49Mumbai
22:50seem
22:51very
22:51cynical.
22:51So
22:57how do
22:57you
22:58then
22:58create
22:58a city
22:58when
22:59the
22:59citizens
22:59themselves
23:00are not
23:00interested?
23:01It is really interesting
23:01that people
23:01are queuing up
23:02to buy
23:03iPhone 17
23:04which is
23:04launched
23:05and
23:06creating
23:06a ruckus.
23:07But I
23:07didn't
23:07see that
23:08thing
23:08for
23:09the
23:09civic
23:09amenities
23:10creating
23:11noise
23:11for the
23:12civic
23:12amenities
23:12and
23:13what
23:13we
23:13used
23:14to
23:14see
23:14in
23:14earlier
23:14days.
23:14How do
23:15you
23:15do
23:15that
23:15Kavi?
23:15How do
23:16you
23:16create
23:16civic
23:17participation
23:18in
23:18building
23:18a
23:19better
23:19city?
23:20By
23:20perhaps
23:21having
23:23an
23:23elected
23:24mayor
23:24who
23:25is
23:25responsible
23:26for
23:26the
23:26city
23:27itself
23:28because
23:28Mumbai
23:29city
23:29is a
23:29very
23:30distinct
23:30entity
23:31other
23:31than
23:31the
23:31state
23:32of
23:32Maharashtra.
23:33We
23:33have
23:33MLAs
23:34running
23:34it
23:35who
23:35are
23:35from
23:35all
23:35over
23:35Maharashtra
23:36who
23:36are
23:36not
23:36responsible
23:37for
23:37Mumbai
23:38as
23:38such.
23:39So
23:39perhaps
23:39what
23:40we
23:40are
23:40saying
23:40a
23:41planning
23:41authority
23:42means
23:43the
23:43same
23:43as
23:43a
23:43mayor
23:44and
23:44no
23:45better
23:45person
23:46to
23:46understand
23:46this
23:47than
23:47Devendra
23:48Fadnavish
23:49himself
23:49because
23:50he used
23:50to be
23:50the
23:50mayor
23:50of
23:50Nagpur
23:51if you
23:52recall.
23:52So
23:53are
23:53you
23:53calling
23:53for
23:53a
23:53New
23:54York
23:54city
23:54like
23:54model
23:55where
23:55you
23:55have
23:55an
23:55elected
23:56accountable
23:57mayor
23:58with
23:58a
23:59clear
23:59planning
23:59authority.
24:00Absolutely.
24:01So
24:01maybe
24:01this
24:01is
24:01something
24:02that
24:02we
24:02can
24:02put
24:02our
24:03heads
24:03together.
24:03There
24:06was
24:07a
24:07mayor
24:07in
24:07council
24:07and
24:08the
24:08issue
24:08was
24:08picked
24:09up
24:09that
24:09is
24:10Mumbai
24:10being
24:10separated
24:11from
24:11Maharashtra
24:12by having
24:12an
24:12elected
24:12mayor
24:13and
24:13having
24:13a
24:14mayor
24:14in
24:14council
24:14are
24:15you
24:15getting
24:15into
24:15some
24:16I'm
24:17just
24:18reflecting
24:19what
24:19seems
24:20to be
24:20a
24:20universal
24:21answer
24:21abroad.
24:21London
24:22has
24:22a
24:22mayor.
24:23There's
24:23one
24:23in
24:23New
24:23York.
24:24The
24:24fact
24:24is
24:24Mumbai
24:25is
24:25a
24:25very
24:25complex
24:26organism
24:27and
24:28it
24:29needs
24:29a
24:29very
24:29special
24:30kind
24:30of
24:30handling.
24:30I think
24:31I should
24:31response
24:32to this.
24:32Yeah,
24:32because
24:32you
24:33see
24:33there
24:33are
24:3336
24:34MLAs
24:34from
24:35Mumbai
24:35in
24:35and
24:35around.
24:36Maharashtra's
24:37total
24:37is
24:37288.
24:39The
24:39people
24:39taking
24:40decisions
24:40sometimes
24:41from
24:41Mumbai
24:41are
24:41not
24:41the
24:42Mumbai
24:42MLAs
24:43either.
24:43They
24:43are
24:43from
24:43outside.
24:44They
24:44have
24:45another
24:45complete
24:45interest.
24:46They
24:46are
24:46accused
24:46that
24:47it
24:47is
24:47a
24:47chidia.
24:51Would
24:51you be
24:52willing
24:52for an
24:53elected
24:54mayor
24:54with
24:54full
24:54powers
24:55in
24:55Mumbai?
24:55Do you
24:56think
24:56any
24:56government
24:56would
24:57be
24:57willing?
24:58I
24:58don't
24:58wish
24:58to
24:58comment
24:59what
24:59is
24:59not
24:59there
25:00in
25:00BMC
25:00Act.
25:01I
25:02agree.
25:03But
25:03Koustu,
25:04is
25:04there
25:05something
25:05you
25:05are
25:06nodding
25:06your
25:06head
25:06when
25:06you
25:06heard
25:07is
25:07there
25:07a
25:08model
25:08out
25:08there.
25:09You
25:09are
25:10not
25:10a
25:10politician
25:10so
25:10you
25:11can
25:11speak
25:11more
25:11freely.
25:13These
25:14views
25:14incidentally
25:14are
25:15personal.
25:16No,
25:16don't
25:17worry.
25:18You
25:18have
25:19been
25:19in
25:19IIT
25:19long
25:20enough
25:20not
25:20to
25:20worry.
25:20But
25:20go
25:21ahead.
25:22See
25:22as
25:22somebody
25:22was
25:22born
25:22in
25:23Dadar
25:23raised
25:23in
25:23Andheri
25:24a
25:24core
25:24Mumbaikar
25:25I
25:25many a
25:26times
25:26feel
25:27extremely
25:27helpless
25:28and
25:28I
25:29am
25:29unable
25:30to
25:30explain
25:30the
25:31illogicity
25:31of
25:32how
25:32we
25:32are
25:32governing
25:33the
25:33city.
25:34While
25:34the
25:34city
25:34is
25:34extremely
25:35complex
25:35I
25:36fully
25:36agree
25:37and
25:37I
25:37am
25:37not
25:37casting
25:38aspersions
25:38on
25:38anyone
25:39the
25:40time
25:40has
25:40come
25:40for
25:40us
25:40to
25:41deliver
25:41to
25:41the
25:41people.
25:42Even
25:43if
25:43they
25:43are
25:43not
25:43approaching
25:44us
25:44we
25:45need
25:47to
25:47deliver
25:49and
25:49I
25:49think
25:50the
25:50only
25:50way
25:50to
25:51do
25:51that
25:51is
25:51to
25:52have
25:52a
25:52solid
25:52plan
25:53and
25:53I
25:53think
25:54Devendra
25:54Fudnavis
25:55has
25:55delivered
25:56this
25:56to
25:56a
25:56very
25:56large
25:57extent
25:57to
25:57Mumbai
25:57I
25:58feel
25:58very
25:59confident
25:59under
25:59his
26:00leadership
26:00which
26:01is
26:01both
26:01credible
26:01and
26:02with
26:02high
26:02integrity
26:02that
26:03we
26:03will
26:03deliver
26:03the
26:04goods
26:04to
26:04Mumbai
26:04No
26:04but
26:04I
26:05come
26:05back
26:05to
26:05it
26:05you
26:05see
26:06you
26:06are
26:06again
26:06putting
26:07the
26:07onus
26:07in
26:07a
26:07way
26:08of
26:08one
26:08person
26:08we
26:09need
26:09institutions
26:10individuals
26:10have
26:11their
26:11place
26:11no doubt
26:12leadership
26:12has
26:13a
26:13place
26:13but
26:13we
26:14need
26:14institutions
26:14that
26:15will
26:15outlast
26:15individuals
26:16so
26:17do
26:17we
26:17need
26:17technocratic
26:18solutions
26:18to
26:19mumbai's
26:19problems
26:19or
26:20is
26:20it
26:20a
26:20political
26:20surely
26:23there
26:23will
26:24come
26:24a
26:24time
26:24where
26:24you
26:25need
26:25stronger
26:25institutions
26:26what
26:26are
26:26those
26:26institutions
26:27I
26:27think
26:27it's
26:27about
26:28the
26:28trait
26:28of
26:28the
26:28individual
26:29or
26:29the
26:29leader
26:30Devendra
26:30Fadnaves
26:30today
26:31embodies
26:31certain
26:32qualities
26:33which
26:33is
26:33helping
26:33him
26:34deliver
26:34he
26:34is
26:35focused
26:36he
26:36is
26:36solving
26:37problems
26:37he
26:38is
26:38extremely
26:39concerned
26:40about
26:40the
26:40degradation
26:41of
26:41livability
26:42index
26:43and
26:43he
26:43works
26:44day
26:44and
26:44night
26:44in
26:44order
26:44to
26:49whoever
26:49is
26:50there
26:50if
26:50those
26:50traits
26:51are
26:51retained
26:51we
26:52will
26:52deliver
26:52to
26:52I
26:54love
26:58the
26:58panel
26:58that
26:59you
26:59have
26:59formed
26:59there
26:59are
26:59clearly
27:00three
27:00BJP
27:01people
27:01and
27:01one
27:01Shivzena
27:02guy
27:02so
27:02I
27:03think
27:04that
27:04shows
27:05your
27:05confidence
27:05anyway
27:06so
27:08I
27:08think
27:08it's
27:08more
27:09than
27:09one
27:09person
27:09I
27:09think
27:10policies
27:11have
27:11to
27:11be
27:11set
27:11in
27:11place
27:12for
27:13example
27:13I
27:13will
27:14give
27:14you
27:14I
27:14quote
27:14another
27:15example
27:15let's
27:17say
27:17the
27:18biggest
27:18problem
27:19right
27:19now
27:19Mumbai
27:20is
27:20facing
27:20is
27:20that
27:21of
27:21housing
27:21right
27:21so
27:22we
27:22have
27:22so
27:22many
27:23slum
27:23rehabilitation
27:24programs
27:24happening
27:25most
27:26of
27:26these
27:26slums
27:26are
27:27encroached
27:28on
27:28public
27:28lands
27:29on
27:29government
27:29lands
27:30lands
27:31where
27:31there
27:31were
27:31supposed
27:31to
27:31be
27:32hostels
27:34where
27:34there
27:34were
27:34supposed
27:35to
27:35be
27:35recreational
27:35gardens
27:36and
27:37hence
27:37the
27:37infrastructure
27:38there
27:38was
27:38designed
27:39that way
27:39roads
27:40were designed
27:41according
27:41to
27:41gardens
27:42the
27:42water
27:43supply
27:43was
27:43designed
27:44as
27:44per
27:45gardens
27:45now
27:46because
27:46they're
27:46encroached
27:47there
27:47is
27:47already
27:48a
27:48big
27:48stress
27:49on
27:49all
27:49of
27:49this
27:50infrastructure
27:50now
27:51what
27:51should
27:51be
27:52the
27:52logical
27:52solution
27:52it
27:53should
27:53be
27:54either
27:54to
27:55displace
27:55all
27:55these
27:55people
27:56which is
27:56of
27:56course
27:57not
27:57possible
27:57the
27:58people
27:58have
27:59been
27:59living
27:59there
27:59for
27:5930
28:00or
28:00more
28:00years
28:00so
28:00they
28:00want
28:01to
28:01live
28:01there
28:01so
28:02either
28:02you
28:02have
28:02to
28:02increase
28:03your
28:03resources
28:03your
28:03infrastructure
28:04but
28:05what
28:05have
28:05we
28:05been
28:06doing
28:06the
28:07policy
28:07right
28:07now
28:08is
28:08extremely
28:09focused
28:10and
28:10oriented
28:10towards
28:11real estate
28:11developers
28:12and
28:12contractors
28:13what
28:13we
28:14are
28:14doing
28:14is
28:14where
28:15there
28:15was
28:15supposed
28:15to
28:16be
28:16a
28:16recreational
28:16garden
28:17which
28:17has
28:17now
28:17been
28:18encroached
28:18by
28:18let's
28:18say
28:19500
28:19slums
28:19around
28:202000
28:20people
28:20living
28:21there
28:21we
28:21are
28:21granting
28:22them
28:224-5
28:23FSI
28:23plus
28:23TDR
28:24and
28:24now
28:25in
28:25place
28:25of
28:25a
28:26recreational
28:26garden
28:26some
28:27big
28:27prestige
28:28L&T
28:30and
28:31some
28:31big
28:31real estate
28:32guy
28:32is
28:32going
28:32to
28:32come
28:32he
28:33is
28:33going
28:38back
28:39to
28:39what
28:39you
28:40said
28:40we
28:41are
28:41going
28:41to
28:41face
28:42enormous
28:42issues
28:43in
28:43the
28:43future
28:43issues
28:44like
28:44water
28:45supply
28:45issues
28:45like
28:46sanitation
28:46issues
28:47like
28:47picking
28:47up
28:47of
28:47garbage
28:48and
28:48all
28:49of
28:49this
28:49is
28:49linked
28:49to
28:49policy
28:50it
28:50is
28:50not
28:50linked
28:50to
28:50one
28:51person
28:51like
28:52you
28:52said
28:52I
28:53do
28:54not
28:54wish
28:54to
28:54comment
28:54on
28:54anyone
28:55individually
28:55but
28:56there
28:56has
28:57to
28:57be
28:57a
28:57policy
28:57in
28:57place
28:58which
28:58will
28:58keep
28:59working
28:59whoever
28:59is
29:00in
29:00office
29:00the
29:01policy
29:08people
29:08are
29:09running
29:10entire
29:12Mumbai
29:12now
29:12is
29:13that
29:14we
29:16need
29:17not
29:17to
29:17add
29:17a
29:18burden
29:18to
29:18Mumbai
29:18yes
29:19the
29:19answer
29:19is
29:20yes
29:20obviously
29:21then
29:21the
29:21policy
29:22should
29:22not
29:22be
29:22what
29:23was
29:23been
29:23proposed
29:23then
29:24that
29:24those
29:25who
29:25will
29:25go
29:25for
29:25construction
29:26will
29:26give
29:26them
29:27the
29:2750%
29:28rebate
29:28in
29:29their
29:29premium
29:29you
29:30builders
29:30are
29:30my
29:31friends
29:31please
29:31come
29:31take
29:3250%
29:32premium
29:33rebate
29:33and
29:33construct
29:34that
29:34was
29:34also
29:35the
29:35policy
29:35and
29:36that
29:36has
29:36been
29:36done
29:36by
29:37which
29:37regime
29:37I
29:37need
29:37to
29:38wish
29:38politically
29:39as
29:39you
29:39rightly
29:39stated
29:40coming
29:40to
29:41this
29:41first
29:41point
29:42which
29:42on
29:42lighter
29:43mode
29:43but
29:43factually
29:44correct
29:44maybe
29:45his
29:45comment
29:463 vs
29:471
29:473 BJP
29:48vs 1
29:48UBT
29:49I don't
29:50wish to
29:50comment
29:50on that
29:51but I
29:51can only
29:51say
29:52as far
29:52as
29:53Mumbai
29:53voters
29:53are
29:53concerned
29:54this
29:54is
29:54a
29:54factual
29:54it
29:55could
29:55be
29:553 vs
29:561
29:56again
29:56I wish
29:57to
29:58disagree
29:58I wish
29:59to
29:59disagree
30:00if
30:01we are
30:01going to
30:02talk
30:02politics
30:02I
30:06I
30:07was
30:08hoping
30:08for
30:08a
30:08bipartisan
30:09debate
30:10and
30:10suddenly
30:11the
30:11politicians
30:11have
30:12joined
30:12in
30:12but
30:12go ahead
30:13BMC
30:13elections
30:13are
30:14not
30:14too long
30:15around
30:15the
30:15corner
30:16go ahead
30:16Varun
30:16quickly
30:17so
30:17I
30:18think
30:19he
30:19was
30:19commenting
30:19about
30:19the
30:20Vidansaba
30:20results
30:21which
30:21were
30:21I
30:21think
30:22BJP's
30:22best
30:23performance
30:23till
30:23now
30:24and
30:24which
30:24has
30:25been
30:25maybe
30:26our
30:26worst
30:26performance
30:26so
30:27far
30:27even
30:28by
30:28our
30:28worst
30:28performance
30:29we
30:29have
30:2910
30:30MLAs
30:30and
30:303
30:30MPs
30:31in
30:31Mumbai
30:31and
30:32even
30:32at
30:32their
30:32best
30:33they
30:33have
30:33some
30:3313
30:34or
30:3414
30:34MLAs
30:34and
30:34just
30:351
30:35MP
30:35so
30:36I
30:36think
30:36we
30:40are
30:40equal
30:40so
30:40okay
30:41so
30:42we
30:42can
30:43definitely
30:43have
30:43this
30:44debate
30:44again
30:44because
30:45the
30:45BMC
30:45elections
30:45are
30:46around
30:46the
30:46corner
30:46and
30:46hopefully
30:47it
30:47will
30:47happen
30:48in
30:48the
30:48month
30:48of
30:48January
30:49so
30:49again
30:49we
30:49will
30:50invite
30:51both
30:51of
30:52you
30:52and
30:52we
30:52have
30:52this
30:52debate
30:53again
30:53but
30:53lastly
30:53because
30:54our
30:54time
30:54is
30:55up
30:55one
30:55of
30:55the
30:56pictures
30:56I
30:56showed
30:56here
30:57is
30:57of
30:57the
30:57slums
30:57and
30:58in
30:58Marathi
30:59Mumbai
31:00used
31:00to
31:00be
31:00introduced
31:01at
31:01Sramikanchi
31:02Mumbai
31:02that
31:03the
31:03people
31:03who
31:04worked
31:04here
31:05mill workers
31:06and
31:06many
31:06other
31:06people
31:07are
31:08we
31:08going
31:08to
31:08change
31:08that
31:09face
31:09of
31:09Mumbai
31:10completely
31:10or
31:11will
31:12those
31:12people
31:13also
31:13have
31:13place
31:14in
31:14Mumbai
31:14in
31:14the
31:14future
31:14and
31:15I
31:15would
31:15just
31:15like
31:16to
31:16know
31:16it
31:16from
31:17the
31:17political
31:17people
31:18here
31:18because
31:18and
31:19of
31:19course
31:19later
31:19but
31:20quickly
31:20before
31:21we
31:21wind
31:22up
31:22Mumbai
31:24is
31:24for
31:24everyone
31:25everyone
31:25means
31:26I'm
31:26saying
31:26Shramik
31:27and
31:28non-Shramik
31:28both
31:29Mumbai
31:30is
31:30for
31:31them
31:32for
31:32BDD
31:33today
31:34they're
31:34being
31:34for
31:35redevelopment
31:36for
31:36them
31:37for
31:37them
31:37for
31:38337
31:38redevelopment
31:39for
31:39them
31:40for
31:40them
31:40for
31:41them
31:41I
32:07was
32:07waiting
32:08for
32:08that
32:08that's
32:09another
32:09debate
32:10which
32:10you
32:11did
32:12not
32:12ask
32:13me
32:13on
32:13linguistic
32:13you
32:14asked
32:14me
32:14on
32:14Shramik
32:15and
32:15non-Shramik
32:16I replied
32:16on that
32:16Mumbai
32:17is
32:17Marathi
32:18and
32:18Marathi
32:18will
32:19stay
32:19and
32:19if
32:20anyone
32:20has
32:20chilled
32:21you
32:21will
32:21stay
32:22with
32:22Marathi
32:23on
32:23that
32:24note
32:25I
32:26appreciate
32:26my
32:27guest
32:27joining
32:27us
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