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MLA Rohit Pawar, during an interview at the India Today Conclave Mumbai, said he would not regret an angry outburst against an official, indicating a willingness to become "even angrier" if officers commit wrongdoing or deny justice to common people.
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00:00With that, we are ready to power into our first session on day two of the India Today Conclave
00:05and its Mumbai edition. Those of you tweeting, tweet under the hashtag India Today Conclave Mumbai.
00:10And ladies and gentlemen, we begin our first session with the Gen Next, the new leadership
00:18curve. And to take it from here, I'd like to quickly invite on stage Rohit Pawar, MLA Karjat,
00:24Jamkhed, Maharashtra, someone who's being viewed off late, especially as, welcome Rohit, as
00:34someone who is a de facto opposition leader. Is this after the video that you made of the
00:39agriculture minister that led to his tabadla, if one would say?
00:44This is what people say. But what I do is I genuinely put forward the real issues of Maharashtra.
00:51And a lot of people are aggressive. A lot of people from opposition are speaking against
00:57the government. But the points which I take are well accepted by the people.
01:03So you think people have accepted you and your alliance has accepted you, even though you
01:10don't have the numbers to be a leader of opposition, but de facto?
01:15No, no. See, what I say is, you have to be genuine. I am genuine. A lot of other people
01:19are also genuine. You just have to fight. So I, without expecting anything, what I do
01:24is like, I keep on fighting. I keep on put, you know, aghe jo logon ke issues hota hai,
01:31woh aghe leke jane ke mii koshish karta hai. Abhi log kya keheta hai, woh logon ka visha hai.
01:35Lekan, what I do is very genuine.
01:39Rohit, you know, you will always have the burden of legacy. You'll always have the burden of politics.
01:43But you're, you know, you're viewed as a next-gen young leader, right? And you would hopefully
01:49bring a newness to politics, which especially like the Strait of Maharashtra is extremely
01:54jaded with. And what, as per you, is your definition of politics and what are you going to be doing
02:04differently than possibly your uncles have done?
02:08See, if you ask about my grandfather, you know, his politics has always been developmental
02:16politics. So what I believe is, I also have to do the same. It has to be developmental politics.
02:22We have to work on education. We also have to work on infrastructure. We have to work on employment.
02:28So there are a lot of issues what we have to work on. But if you talk about what I define,
02:35how I define politics is basically, you have to work on real issues rather than, you know,
02:41doing politics just to be in politics. So today, if you look at it, whether it is BJP or the Alliance
02:48parties or BJP, what they do is they do caste-based politics. So development is not talked about.
02:56They are just building their politics on caste-based or, you know, Hindu-Muslim, those point of,
03:03those issues. So which I feel are not the real issues. So we have to build our politics on real
03:09issues. We have to be pretty straightforward when we talk about Maharashtra or development
03:15of Maharashtra.
03:16But your legacy, your political legacy is already in place, right? And Rohit, you come from a state
03:21where money power is huge. But for somebody who's new, who brings a newness to politics,
03:28wants to do things differently, you talk about caste. Two days ago, you had Supriya Suleji,
03:34who actually said that maybe we don't need reservation. Do you also have a new way of looking at that?
03:38Look, she said what she said. I think, you know, her statement was misplaced. If you look at the
03:45whole statement, she had said caste-based politics is important. But if there's someone who has taken
03:53benefit of reservation, and if that person is well-to-do, then he should think, or she should
04:01think whether to take benefit of, you know, reservation. That is what she meant. She didn't
04:08say about economic-based reservation, but her statement was, you know, a little twisted
04:15later on. Like, for example, when we say, when we speak for, say, one minute, and from that,
04:21some people take out ten seconds, and they use it for a political mileage. So her statement
04:26was misrepresented. That is what I feel. You feel that the statement, did she tell you her
04:30statement was misrepresented? No, see, when you look at the whole statement, when you hear the
04:35whole statement, so definitely the point what people are talking about, the opposition is talking
04:40about, they're talking about part of her statement. So Rohit, what do you believe? Do you believe there
04:45should be reservation on the basis of caste? See, reservation is... Especially in a state like
04:50Maharashtra, because if you look at the current context, we're looking at reservation over 70%. There's a lot
04:55of youth out there who's going to be looking at a young leader like you and just say, what
04:58about merit? What about us? See, reservation is important. It's important for education.
05:03It's important for job and all. But what I feel is, along with reservation, we also have
05:07to work on policies. Like, for example, why... Like, from... When a child is in school, from
05:15there, like, for example, uniform. Few students get uniform, few don't get uniform. So from there,
05:25the child starts thinking, why that child has got uniform and I don't get it. So what I feel
05:30is, from school time, we have to see that everyone gets. Like, for example, in school or whether in
05:39the case of education also, there also, if government takes a call, say, for example, professional courses,
05:47if government does the funding of professional courses in Maharashtra, it will require about
05:53eleven and a half thousand crores. If education... Today, to become an engineer, you need six
05:59to seven lakhs. So... But if government takes care of education, what I feel is, today, along
06:05with caste-based reservation, we also need certain support for education. And plus, today, why
06:13caste has become... Caste-based reservation has become important reason is, like, for example,
06:19aggregate crisis are there in Maharashtra. So now, people from agriculture or the people
06:24who are doing agriculture or their children, they feel, if I get a reservation, then maybe
06:31in future, I would get jobs. So today, job is a problem. So you think the current context
06:36of... in which we are looking at the Maratha reservation, you're pro that, that it should
06:41happen. We need it. See, we need it. But for that, we have to go to parliament. So, you know,
06:45we have to go above fifty percent. Exactly. The real thing is, we have to go to Delhi. But
06:50today, if you look at it in Maharashtra, people who are in power... See, for example, one...
06:57For example, I'll tell you what. We had the chief minister of Maharashtra yesterday, and
07:02he did speak repeatedly about it's time to only look and address the creamy layer. And
07:08every caste will have a particular, even, you know, when you look at the SCST, will have
07:14a layer which is the creamy layer which actually draws all the benefits of reservation and the
07:18others get left behind. So it's time to, A, look at the creamy layer, B, also to identify
07:24economically weaker sections, EWS.
07:29So, you know, generally, he creates problems. But he has no solution for anything. Now,
07:39they have told us that we need to get a reservation, we need to get a reservation. But today, what
07:45is the problem is that the problem is that, because of the agrarian crisis, the children of
07:52farmers or the laborers, today they have degree but they don't have work, they have no work,
08:00they have misrepresentation, that after getting a reservation, they will get a job. So this is
08:05the misconfusion. Like, in Maharashtra, only two and a half lakh jobs are there in government.
08:12Reservation is only required for that. So, generally, if you look, politics of BJP, they will just
08:19keep on increasing the difference between different caste. So, after the vertical erection
08:24and now they are talking about 13 percent, they are talking about the AC. Now, the committee
08:30has been formed. So, how many of these are the sub-casts are coming from the people who
08:35have come from the people. How many of them will get to the people who have come from the
08:37people who have come from the people who have come from the people who have come from the people.
08:39Like, maybe there is one caste which generally people say that they get the most
08:45the most. But there is a other caste who definitely get some benefit out of it. But what is the
08:50percentage? They have to talk about in detail. Or what happens is that the BJP general,
08:55who has any election to come from the first, they raise the amount of caste
09:00or the amount of caste. Like in 2014, they had to fight election. They had to
09:07take the first cabinet in the first cabinet. But they didn't do that.
09:16Okay.
09:17So, even though, like I said, you are a young leader, but you do subscribe to the old ways
09:23of politics, especially where reservation is concerned. No.
09:26So, you have stuck with that. But let me… No, no, no. I think I want to correct.
09:30Okay. Look, I want to say that, politics mein, caste based jo bhi vishay hai, wo politics ka
09:37bhaag nahi banna chahi hai. Okay. Politics mein, it must be more development. But, okay.
09:42Rohit, because we have less time, so let's quickly move on. The other question, which, you know,
09:46you are young, you are in politics, but you are also, like I said, carry the burden of your
09:52legacy, which is the Pawar legacy. Be dinists, Nepo kids, raising questions of, is there space for
09:59somebody who doesn't come from a non-political background, enter politics? We have, we are
10:06talking about next-gen leaders. All three that we have today, right after you, there will be
10:10Shrikansh Chandeji, there will be Mr. Harsh Sangvi, all of you are somewhere down the line,
10:14come from political legacy.
10:16So, what is there a problem? Where are the other places?
10:20So, you are okay with being called a Nepo kid.
10:27So, you are okay with being called a Nepo kid.
10:30So, you are okay with being called a Nepo kid.
10:32No, no.
10:34Look, if someone doesn't say a Nepo doctor, someone doesn't say a Nepo, someone doesn't say a
10:38doctor, someone doesn't say anything, and everyone should get there,
10:41whatever comes from that, look, who is the family...
10:43But, no one can become a doctor, Rohit.
10:45No, no.
10:46It's very difficult, in today's times, where it's all about money, where it's all about political
10:53allegiance, for somebody who is completely off the cuff to come and say that I will make it
10:58big in politics.
10:59There's very little space.
11:00No, that doesn't happen.
11:01Look, they can start with the Nepo kid and all.
11:03And they can go...
11:04Like, if I was a Nepo kid, you can understand.
11:07I could become an MLA or an MP.
11:10Where did I start from?
11:11I started from the Nepo kid.
11:13Then, in the Pune, there was our power.
11:15Did I take any position there?
11:17No.
11:18When I became an MLA, it was our government.
11:21There was no power.
11:22Did I take any position there?
11:23No.
11:24But, when it comes to the Sattah, then definitely I will take a pause.
11:28The reason is, I worked for it.
11:29Now, anyone who works with the mind, gets the truth.
11:32But, why do you want to come to politics?
11:34That should also define it.
11:36Like, I was in business first.
11:38Business settled.
11:39Then, I came into politics.
11:40Many people come into politics.
11:43Then, they become businessmen.
11:45Now, many young people think that the value of spending is politics.
11:50Which is a wrong thing.
11:52But, if somebody wants to come in for the right reasons, there is very...
11:56Which is good.
11:57You are saying that you will start from Zilla Parishat.
11:58Then, you will stay on Zilla Parishat.
12:00No.
12:01There are many MLS who have no background.
12:02Then, they are coming.
12:03They are now in politics.
12:05But, you don't see it as a privilege.
12:07It is a privilege.
12:08How can you do that?
12:09No.
12:10It is a privilege.
12:11But, there is also a burden.
12:12Now, let's see.
12:13You are going to go further.
12:14You want to go further.
12:15However, you are the person who are very interested.
12:18The people are the people who are very interested in research,
12:20I must say what you have to do further.
12:22That is the problem that you have to do further.
12:24Your younger generation, they have already done this.
12:26So, we have much more research on this.
12:28Now, you have to go further.
12:30Okay, you talked about the burden. How big was it when your uncle split? Where do you want to go?
12:38No, look, if you have asked a question of emotional, then we were all emotional. It didn't happen to happen. But they took it. So if you look, we wanted to keep the family together.
12:53Ajit Dada also knows.
12:53There was a doubt that maybe I should go Ajit Dada with him.
12:57No, I didn't come to politics. I didn't come to politics. That's why I stayed with my grandfather.
13:03It happened to me and then I was with my grandfather. There was another election. I was with my grandfather.
13:08Now I'm very much with him.
13:09Rane Ji says, in 2019, you were in the BJP touch.
13:12Who?
13:12Nilesh Rane Ji says, you...
13:14Nilesh Rane Ji says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he says.
13:18He said, no.
13:19Why will I be with you?
13:21Okay, okay. It was a decision that you made to stick to your uncle Sharad Bawar.
13:25Yes.
13:25Ajit Pawar ji also said that you
13:27won your constituency only thanks to him.
13:30When? This time around.
13:31Look, there was time.
13:33If you had the election of the people
13:34who had the election,
13:36after that, there was so much pressure
13:38on them, or on the one hand,
13:40that the people of the people
13:42were on the side of the Mahavikas Agadi.
13:44So there was so much pressure.
13:45There was no time.
13:46They were giving attention to their constituency.
13:48He was saying that it came down to postal ballots.
13:501240, you were winning.
13:53It was very low.
13:54If you were not, you were not.
13:55Thank him for it.
14:25But Rohit, how inspired are you,
14:39where you call him Ajit Dada is concerned.
14:41Abhi, pichle mahi ne,
14:43he was seen screaming at a DSP,
14:45a woman DSP,
14:46for doing and dispensing her job.
14:48As a youth, young leader,
14:50one would have thought that Rohit Pawar would have come
14:52and said that this is wrong.
14:54What do you want to defend your uncle?
15:18What who ended up is the truth?
15:24The truth is not.
15:24How did it go after?
15:26The truth is,
15:28he was pushing me to learn situation in my future.
15:30foreign
16:00Now what we have said? You give them the help of the people who were there, give them the people who were there.
16:06And the other one, who is BGP's leader, is a very big company.
16:13So you are saying that the language was different from them?
16:16It's different from them, but I don't want to say that.
16:18But Rohit, you have used this language as well?
16:21When?
16:22Right after that, you have used similar kind of language against where you are seen rebuking
16:28an officer on duty screaming at him to do his job.
16:32There is, you know, these are bureaucrats, these are police officers.
16:36You think you can speak to them like this?
16:37Look, if you are speaking in good language, if you don't have a job,
16:43if you have two-time MLA, if you don't have a job of two-time MLA,
16:47then how will your job be done?
16:49You understand this, right?
16:50So sometimes the people, look, 90% of the officers are good.
16:56There are 10-time people who are like this.
16:58If you have to speak straight to them, then you have to speak in that language.
17:02That gives you the entitlement to scream at an officer in uniform?
17:05Look, the thing about the uniform is different.
17:08But in which way you are, who are you, who are you, who are you?
17:12Who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you.
17:14If the MLA doesn't listen to MLA, then if there is any poor person or any person,
17:20if there is no work in the office, then there is a bit of anger.
17:24We are young people, we are a little bit of anger.
17:28It is natural, but who is it?
17:31I did not have a problem for myself.
17:34Why did I get angry?
17:36Do you regret it?
17:45No.
17:45You don't regret using that kind of language?
17:47I won't regret.
17:48If someone will come forward, if someone will do the wrong way,
17:52if the people will not give it enough, then it will also be a lot of anger.
17:58But one day before I was there, the person who is there, the person who is there, the person who is there,
18:05I had a question in front of them.
18:07But the unfortunate thing is that I didn't have a question in front of them.
18:09There was no news.
18:10But I cried because there was a lot of news.
18:13But I am still there.
18:14But Rohit, it gives a sense of entitlement that, you know, somebody might not be doing their job,
18:20but to justify screaming at them and say, I will do it again.
18:24Is this the right approach?
18:25Look, if you are angry, that is the intent of the matter.
18:29I am going to go to the canton and I am not going to the mouth of someone.
18:31The people who are in the corner are going to the mouth of someone.
18:34Nothing is happening.
18:35If you look at that, there are people who are on the police.
18:38They are shooting on the police.
18:39They are not happening.
18:40But I am keeping my space.
18:42But I am saying that actually, if there is Ajit Dada, Rohit Pawar wants to be Rohit Dada.
18:47Look, it is my style.
18:48The style is the same.
18:50No.
18:50Look, if you look at my history,
18:53you talk with the media, you talk with the people.
18:56Look at that style.
18:58And when Adikari works and doesn't work,
19:00look at that style.
19:01The good work, look at Adikari's style.
19:04I don't want to copy anyone's copy.
19:05I don't want to copy Xerox.
19:07I want to be Rohit Pawar myself.
19:09I have maintained my style.
19:10Rohit, we are talking about Ajit Dada.
19:12Let's talk about Sharad Pawar Ji as well.
19:14Sharad Pawar Ji has said on record,
19:17that there are two thoughts in their party.
19:20One thought, one train of thought,
19:22that we will go back to Ajit Pawar Ji's party.
19:26And the other, to stay in the opposition and fight against right-leaning forces.
19:32Now, which camp is in which camp?
19:34That we will go back to NCP or to fight against right-wing forces?
19:40I am going to quote them.
19:42Look, if you see,
19:43who is the most important part of this government?
19:46I am.
19:47So, the answer is that I am against the government.
19:50I am against the right-wing forces.
19:52I am against the right-wing forces.
19:53Look, when there are ten-hundred people,
19:56there are ten people who say,
19:57why do you go to the force of this government?
19:59There are 90 people in the world.
20:00You come to 90 people in the world.
20:02Okay, so you are saying that you are in the other camp.
20:05In the fighting camp.
20:06But you are saying that there are two thoughts.
20:09How do you think?
20:09Sharat Pawar Ji has told you,
20:11Sharat Pawar NCP.
20:13MLS is saying that you have to go to the force of this work.
20:18And we want to fight this way,
20:21that in the politics,
20:22we have to have a temporary benefit.
20:24Or for a temporary benefit.
20:26Or for a temporary benefit.
20:26Or for a temporary benefit.
20:28We have to have to have to have to have a little bit.
20:29But many are saying that for survival,
20:31this is your only option.
20:32How many do you know?
20:34Party survival.
20:34Many, few.
20:36No one knows.
20:37Pawar Ji has not told you
20:38how many people are.
20:39How many people are saying that there are two thoughts.
20:42One small thoughts.
20:43But the thoughts are two thoughts.
20:45One third thought is that you should join with BJP?
20:48Who would say that?
20:48I am asking.
20:49No.
20:50That's not the thoughts.
20:51No.
20:52No.
20:52No.
20:53No.
20:54No.
20:55No.
20:56No.
20:58No.
21:00No.
21:01No.
21:01No.
21:03No.
21:04No.
21:04No.
21:05No.
21:07No.
21:09If he wants to go back, we can probably come together.
21:13You are giving options?
21:14No.
21:15That could happen.
21:17Do you want to fight alone?
21:19How do you want to fight alone?
21:22BMC is a big deal.
21:25If you look at the budget, it's a big deal from many people.
21:29Whatever you can do, all parties are cut.
21:32You can't take alone one party.
21:35but Rohit Paghaar Ji
21:37this sub party
21:38which was the last assembly election
21:41was not sitting there
21:41there were lots of issues
21:44when it came down to seat sharing
21:45now how are you going to sit?
21:46look how does it happen
21:47after the people of the people
21:47after the people of the people
21:48we had to win a lot of our leaders
21:50we had to win a lot of our leaders
21:52we thought that our leadership
21:54is now in the MahaRashtra
21:55we have to have a lot of time in that negotiation
21:57and that time
21:59after the people of the people
22:00and the people of the people
22:01who have been in the BGP
22:03and the leadership of the people
22:04who have been in the past
22:04their use of different schemes
22:06and for the people of the people
22:07who have been in the past
22:09so we have been in a little bit
22:12now we are realistic
22:14so when the church will be done
22:16then the good way of the church
22:18will be taken out of the good strategy
22:19and the good strategy will be taken out of it
22:20Rohit, yesterday we had Aditya Thakre Ji with us
22:24and he said that he is planning
22:25a similar Rahul Gandhi-like investigation
22:30Rahul Gandhi is planning to drop a hydrogen bomb
22:32is what he says
22:33where his new investigation
22:36in what he claims is vote jury
22:37Aditya Thakre says
22:39that he is working on his own
22:40some constituencies
22:41and he is also going to do a surgical strike
22:43in the EC
22:44is that you have a plan of such a plan?
22:46No, no, no
22:47if Rahul Gandhi Ji
22:49if we add hydrogen bomb
22:49we will add it for us
22:50that will be our work
22:51we will also be able to do it
22:52is going to be able to do it
22:52now if Aditya Ji
22:54if we are surgical strike
22:55foreign
23:25the constitution to protect them, the vote of their struggle is to fight Gen Z, to get out of the way.
23:34Rohit, if you see the whole context in Nepal, there was a very bloody revolution.
23:42In that context, the BJP said that it was very dangerous.
23:45Tomorrow Devendra Fadnavaj Najee said that Rahul Gandhi Ji should go to Nepal, where he goes.
23:50The BJP is fighting for which one thing is fighting for.
23:55If people will go against them, who are now looking at it, then definitely they are scared of it.
24:00And the second thing, we know that the Central Home Ministry has given information to each of the rulers,
24:09that when they were fighting, when they were fighting, when they were fighting,
24:14they were fighting, they were fighting, they were fighting, they were fighting, they were fighting.
24:16This is the whole information that the Central Government has asked them there.
24:20What about Nepal?
24:22I mean, there is fear in the mind that if people are fighting, they won't go against EVM.
24:28They won't go against the vote there.
24:30They can have problems.
24:31Rohit, you're not instigating the youth of the country to take up arms, anarchy?
24:37No, arms are different.
24:39Arms should not take anyone.
24:41The biggest strength is unity.
24:43You're talking about Nepal.
24:44That's what happened in Nepal.
24:45It was wrong.
24:46It was wrong.
24:47It was wrong.
24:48It was wrong.
24:49It was wrong.
24:50It was wrong.
24:51No, no.
24:52If you're a bomb, you're going to fire, you're going to fire.
24:53It's wrong.
24:54But if you want to fight, you're going to fight.
24:56It's wrong.
24:57It's wrong.
24:58Rohit...
24:59Okay.
25:00I just have a...
25:02Your next guest is late.
25:04We'll just take two more minutes, Rohit.
25:05Or let's do five more minutes.
25:06I think we can get a five minutes extension.
25:07But, yeah.
25:08So, you're saying that you're going to fight, and the youth should be out of it.
25:22It should be.
25:23We're all 60 people.
25:24We're all 60 people.
25:25But, if you're going to be falling off of the government property, or putting fire against
25:31the fire, or blowing fire against the fire, then that's not the same.
25:34But, the biggest strength is unity.
25:36If the unity is holding up in mind, you're coming to yourself.
25:40Look, the rainfall that happened, because of that was missing, if the government doesn't
25:44rainfall
25:46because of that
25:47if the government
25:49doesn't do anything about it
25:50people are going to come
25:51Rohit
25:53how do you see your career
25:54the perception is
25:57Rohit Pawar wants to now
25:59if this is going to be
26:00the Sharad Pawar faction
26:01possibly lead it
26:02at a state level
26:03is that
26:04how you are looking
26:05at your own career
26:07no, look
26:08if we come to business
26:10then we come to grow
26:11in the business
26:12if you work in social life
26:13then you want to grow
26:14in the center
26:15no interest in you
26:16no, in the Maharashtra
26:17there is an interest
26:17in the mind
26:18to work in the Maharashtra
26:19because if you look at Maharashtra
26:21it is the most powerful state
26:23unfortunately
26:24after 2014
26:25after 2014
26:26there is an ambition
26:27that ultimately
26:27you are looking at
26:28the chief minister's chair
26:29but not a central post
26:31in the center
26:31as a minister
26:32I will say that
26:33there is so strong
26:34that if any state
26:36or any person
26:38or anyone
26:39there is so strong
26:40on a phone
26:40but there is so strong
26:42in the government
26:43that I need to get
26:44to get in the future
26:45Rohit
26:46what made you
26:47pull out your phone
26:48and make a video
26:49of the agriculture minister
26:50playing Rami on his card
26:51on his phone
26:52I did not make a video
26:53I did not make a video
26:54anyone else
26:54I did not make a video
26:55that was a state
26:55or someone else
26:57you gave it
26:58on a pen rate
26:59but I just did it
27:00and whatever
27:02you get into it
27:02like information
27:03that is great
27:04you did not make a defamation
27:06I did not make a video
27:07Thank you very much.
27:37Thank you very much.
28:07Do you accept that it's wrong?
28:10100% it is wrong.
28:13But your party has been equal party to that.
28:16There have been so many allegations over the years.
28:19About what?
28:21They were against who?
28:23Against your own leaders.
28:24Who?
28:25Now you're not your name, Ajit Ji.
28:27Who is with it?
28:28How many allegations are there?
28:30Who is with it?
28:31The only one who has said that, who is with BJP?
28:36Who has said that?
28:37When BJP was with BJP, then we are talking about them.
28:40So many, so many allegations are there.
28:44You have an ED, a CBI, who was able to do it, they were able to do it.
28:48After doing everything, I didn't get anything.
28:50That's why Power Sahib is now fighting for the people.
28:52And who will be against it or not, they will not know them.
28:55They will not know them.
28:56They have been against a allegation, the BJP.
28:59And who is against a allegation, who is against the leaders, they are all with them.
29:03And we are now living, we are also on ED, we are scared, we are not gone.
29:08So today, we are the people of Marathi people, we are fighting.
29:13We are now with Power Sahib, with people, because we want to fight.
29:17Today, if you will fight, then we will have a good day for the 29th, 29th or 29th, we will show you all.
29:25Who should become a leader in the 29th?
29:27India Alliance will be in the 29th.
29:30We can stay, no?
29:31We can stay?
29:31We can stay.
29:33Bihar का election कैसे हो?
29:34Should it be a Rahul Gandhi versus Modi?
29:37Modi साफ रहेंगे नहीं, रहेंगे नहीं मालूम.
29:39अभी तोड़ा साफ रहूल गांदी होने चाहिए है?
29:41कैसे हो दा था?
29:42पहले RSS का बहुत दम था.
29:44लेकिन आज इसे लग रहा है, RSS का दम कम हो गया,
29:47बीजेपी का नेता उनको वापे दम बढ़ गया है.
29:49वो 75 का एज लिमिट का विशे था.
29:52RSS के जो प्रमूग थे, उन्होंने कहा था कि 75 is must.
29:55दस दिन के बाद उनको उनका स्टेट्मेंट वापस लेना पड़ेगा.
29:58पढ़ा.
29:59तो अभी मोदी साफ 29 तक रहेंगे, ऐसे तो दिख रहा है.
30:02ने तो अभी उनका रिटार्मेंट हो सकता था.
30:05RSS के पॉलिशी के हिसाफ से.
30:07RSS का अभी नहीं चलता.
30:09BJP की हिसाफ से अभी 29 तक चलेगा.
30:11उसके बाद शाद कोई और रहेगा.
30:12अभी कौन महाराष्टा का वो व्यक्ति रहेगा कि UP का रहेगा?
30:16उतने सिर्फ क्वेश्चन है.
30:17और महाराष्टा में भी दो लोगों की चर्चा है.
30:21लेकिन एक जो बड़ा नेता है,
30:24जैसे 2014 के पहले जब चर्चा उनकी चल रही थी,
30:28तब उनके कमपनी का विशे है.
30:30यूपी के बात कर रहे हैं, वो आप अधित्यानाज जी की बात कर रहे हैं,
30:33यूपी जी की बात कर रहे हैं, महाराष्टा में किसकी बात कर रहे हैं?
31:03बीजेपी ने सेव साबोटाज किये थे.
31:05100% एसा लोगों को लगता है, मैं लोगों में से एक हूँ,
31:08सिटीजन हूँ, दूसरी बात, अभी देखो, वापच चर्चा चालू हो गई,
31:11तब हम्भी कहते हैं, इस मास्टर वोइस,
31:14महारष्ण में बहुत सारे ऐसे लोग है,
31:16चानक की निति क्या जाते हैं, दूसरों का इस्तमाल करने का,
31:19वैसे इस्तमाल करके, अभी कल पर सो ही,
31:21नितिन गटकरी साब का, एक और एक विशे बाहर आ गया,
31:24मतलब जब भी इंपोर्टन टाइम आता है,
31:26तब कोई न कोई विशे नितिन गटकरी जी के खिलाफ,
31:29नितिन गटकरी जी ने on stage बोला है,
31:31तर दिर इस अ पेड कैंपेंग अगेंस्ट हिम,
31:33वेर एथनोल इस कंसर्ण,
31:35अनफोर्टनेटली इट कुट भी,
31:37फ्रम बीजे प्यों ली,
31:38आप ये कह रहे हैं,
31:39हो सकता है,
31:40पैसा उनी के पास है,
31:41पैसा थो आपके पास बहुत है,
31:43काप है,
31:44दिखा हो,
31:45जो भी है,
31:46लिजिट है,
31:47और दुसरी बात,
31:47ED भी उसके बारे में धुन्रे काप पैसा मिलेगा,
31:50मैं ED को कहा रहा हूँ,
31:52और अगर आपको एक्ष्टर पैसा काप पैसा मिलेगा,
31:57देद दो,
31:58फंडिंग की कम है,
31:59हम पार्टी के लिए इस्तमाल करेंगे,
32:01कुछ ने,
32:02सिर्फ वहाँ पे एक पिच्चर पेंट किया गया है,
32:04Last two questions,
32:05do you think Rahul Gandhi is fit enough to lead,
32:08which you said के India Alliance रह सकता है उन्तिस तक,
32:11to lead India Alliance,
32:12is he the preferred Prime Ministerial candidate for you?
32:16No, no, why not?
32:18I'm asking.
32:18Why not?
32:19आगे जाके लेकिन,
32:21जो दुसरा भी नेता है,
32:22सब नेता,
32:23जैसे की,
32:24अखिलेजी है,
32:25फिर और बहुत सारी नेता है,
32:27उनके बारे में भी,
32:27साथ में बैठके जो भी निनने लिया जाएगो,
32:30लिया जाएगा.
32:30So you're saying,
32:31मतलब चलो,
32:31He's a good candidate.
32:32He's a good candidate,
32:33but he's one of the candidates like
32:35an Akhilesh ji or a Mamata Banerjee is also in that?
32:38No.
32:39She can be.
32:40She can be.
32:41But he's not the only one.
32:42एक पेज पे तो आने चाहिए सब.
32:44जब इंडिया का विशे आता है,
32:46तब सबको एक पेज पे आने की जरुवत है.
32:48आप इंडिया के बारे में सोचते हो,
32:50फिर बाद में आप स्टेट के बारे में सोचते हो.
32:52अगर आपको इंडिया के बारे में सोचना है,
32:55तो country के लिए साथ में आना पड़ेगा.
32:57लेकिन जब state politics आजाता है,
32:59And you are very happy staying in the state and fighting for Maharashtra.
33:11You have no ambitions of leading a bigger charge by the Senators.
33:15After the 14th, if you look, Maharashtra is taken so far.
33:18Now, Maharashtra is taken so far.
33:19Now, Maharashtra is taken so far.
33:20And with that, we have to go back with Agdi Dada.
33:22You have to go back with Agdi Dada.
33:23No, you are telling me that we will not go with them.
33:26If we want to come back with the BJP, then we will welcome them.
33:32Last question for somebody who is young, who looks at politics, should there be a retirement age?
33:38You spoke of 75 years right now, where the whole question of the RSS.
33:44But do you think, you think that there should be a retirement age?
33:50Is it done?
33:50Now, how much do we do?
33:51Do we give others?
33:53Look, it depends on the leader.
33:55If that leader keeps all things in itself, then it's a wrong thing, centralization.
34:00But if that leader is up to 75, up to 80, then what he does is decentralization.
34:08That is more important.
34:12If you have centralization, then that's a wrong thing.
34:16Like if you are running a business.
34:18If there is a chairman, he is 85 years old.
34:20So there should be no retirement age?
34:22If you are running a business, then there is no problem.
34:25In the RSS, the body is important, the brain is also important, and the anxiety is also important.
34:31If we are new people, if we are new people, if we are doing something in excitement, then the power of the king will be the king.
34:39If an experienced person is with you, a leader, then he will tell you that if you are a leader, this will be the impact.
34:45So experience is also important.
34:47Have you been, you said decentralization, have you been given the charge for the state of Maharashtra by Sharad Pawar Ji, for NCP Sharad Pawar Ji?
34:54Yeah, yeah, I am heading different cells.
34:56But to lead the party?
34:58Different cells, now I am leading different cells.
35:01Is that the ambition in the long run right now?
35:03No, look, the party is an important factor.
35:07For the party, there are a lot of people who are going to go forward.
35:10There are a lot of people who are working with them.
35:13All right.
35:15Thank you, Rohit Pawar Ji, for joining us.
35:17Ladies and gentlemen, please raise a warm applause for Rohit Pawar.
35:22Well, he has taken all questions and more or less some controversial ones as well.
35:28But Rohit, thank you for joining us this morning.
35:30I wish you all the best.
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