What happens when an NBA superstar gets locked out of his Bitcoin? 😱 Kevin Durant’s years-long struggle with his Coinbase account highlights one of the most important debates in crypto today: self-custody vs centralized custody. This story isn’t just about Durant—it’s about how all investors should think about crypto security, backups, and recovery options in a rapidly evolving Web3 world.
In this video, we dive into the Durant Bitcoin custody drama, what it reveals about Coinbase, and why the future may belong to social recovery wallets and new custody models. We’ll also cover lessons from famous cautionary tales like the QuadrigaCX collapse and Stefan Thomas’s lost fortune, showing how crypto custody decisions can mean the difference between holding millions—or losing it all.
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In this video, we dive into the Durant Bitcoin custody drama, what it reveals about Coinbase, and why the future may belong to social recovery wallets and new custody models. We’ll also cover lessons from famous cautionary tales like the QuadrigaCX collapse and Stefan Thomas’s lost fortune, showing how crypto custody decisions can mean the difference between holding millions—or losing it all.
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00:00Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we're getting into a really fascinating story. It kind of sits
00:09right at the intersection of NBA courts, crypto markets, and well, the sometimes scary side of
00:14digital security. Our mission here is pretty straightforward, but I think really important.
00:19We're doing a deep dive into what happened with Kevin Durant. You know, the superstar athlete,
00:23he apparently had this multi-year struggle just to get access to his own Bitcoin. And we want to
00:28use his story, this really high-profile case, as a lens, a way to understand maybe the single
00:33biggest challenge facing Web3 adoption right now, this whole custody crisis.
00:37Yeah, and it's way more than just celebrity news, right? It's a proper financial case study.
00:41We've pulled together some really useful sources for this. We're looking at reporting from places
00:46like CNBC and MarketWatch. They covered how Durant finally got back into his account recently.
00:51But we're not just stopping there. We're bringing in industry research, too, like data from
00:56analysis, which actually shows the sheer scale of crypto that's just lost. And crucially,
01:01we're digging into thought leadership. People like Vitalik Buterin, Ethereum's co-founder,
01:06and his ideas about, you know, the future of crypto recovery.
01:09Okay, so the core story, when you boil it down, it's actually pretty simple,
01:13almost relatable in a weird way. Katie got locked out of his Coinbase account for years.
01:18Yeah.
01:18And it wasn't like a hack or someone stealing it. It sounds like it was just passwords,
01:23old info, maybe the sheer bureaucracy of trying to get back in.
01:26Right. Just the classic access issues, but amplified. And this long, drawn-out fight,
01:31it perfectly captures that fundamental tension in crypto, doesn't it? This constant push and pull
01:35between self-custody, you know, holding your own keys, being your own bank.
01:40Right. The whole not your keys, not your coins thing.
01:42Exactly. Versus centralized custody relying on a platform, like Coinbase in this case,
01:48for the convenience, maybe the perceived security.
01:50And the fact that he did eventually get back in, just recently.
01:55Right.
01:55Well, that doesn't just erase the years he couldn't touch it, does it?
01:58Not at all. It just changes the conversation. It's not if he gets access anymore. It's
02:02what did that lack of access actually cost him? His whole experience is this huge public example.
02:09It shows that even someone with massive resources, public profile,
02:13you're still subject to the rules, the protocols of these big platforms.
02:18The recovery process, the security checks.
02:19Yeah. It really forces us to ask who's actually in control of these digital assets when they're
02:25on an exchange.
02:26Okay. So loads to unpack there. But before we really dive into the celebrity angle and what
02:30this custody stuff means for, well, for you listening, we just need to take a quick moment,
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03:04We do. Okay. So thanks for that. Now let's get back to that main tension, right? Let's
03:09dig into this. Why Kevin Durant? Why does his story matter more than, say, the countless
03:16posts you see on Reddit or whatever about locked accounts?
03:20Well, it really comes down to the mainstream spotlight. It's that celebrity effect, right?
03:24When some anonymous person complains online about, I don't know, a 2FA loop on Coinbase,
03:29it's a problem, sure, but it stays pretty niche.
03:32Right. It's background noise for most people.
03:34Exactly. But when it's an NBA superstar, someone recognized globally. Suddenly, crypto security,
03:42the problems with centralized platforms, it's not just a tech issue anymore. It becomes a major
03:46financial news story, a conversation starter. For a lot of people out there, crypto still feels
03:51abstract, complicated. Katie's story, it grounds it, makes it human. Everyone gets, forgetting
03:58a password, right? Everyone knows the frustration of dealing with customer service lines that
04:02go nowhere.
04:03Yeah. But the potential scale here adds so much weight. This isn't like being locked out
04:08of your email. This could be millions, potentially. And it has that weird double-edged effect you
04:13mentioned the sources picked up on. It's a warning sign, definitely.
04:16Yeah, a warning sign.
04:17But also kind of a direct endorsement. It's strange.
04:19That paradox is absolutely key. Look, the lockout itself, the years of frustration,
04:24that screams risk. It tells everyone, hey, even Coinbase, this huge publicly traded company,
04:29recovery can be a nightmare. But the fact that he did get back in, eventually.
04:34After all that hassle, that sends a different signal, doesn't it? Especially to people maybe
04:39just thinking about crypto, feeling cautious.
04:42How so?
04:42Well, it suggests the system, even if it's incredibly frustrating,
04:46it can work for high-stakes situations. The average person considering buying Bitcoin might
04:50think, okay, it was rough for KD, but his money was safe on the platform and he got it back.
04:55Maybe these exchanges are basically okay for someone like me.
04:58It could actually boost confidence in a weird way, just by showing resolution as possible.
05:02Hmm. Interesting take. But that leads right into the friction, the user experience problem. We know
05:08from just looking around, never mind the sources, debt-locked accounts, 2FA issues,
05:13there are constant complaints about the big exchanges.
05:16Absolutely frequent.
05:17So KD's multi-year wait, it kind of validates all those smaller retail investor horror stories,
05:23doesn't it? It shows this isn't just small users falling through the cracks. There's a real deep
05:27friction point in how these platforms operate. It's like Web3 tech layered with old-school
05:33corporate red tape.
05:34That's a great way to put it. Think about it. If you're an average Joe, you might spend hours,
05:40days, weeks battling chatbots, automated emails.
05:43Getting nowhere fast.
05:44Right. Now imagine you're Kevin Durant. You've got lawyers, financial advisors,
05:49probably calling high-level contacts at the exchange directly. Constant pressure.
05:54You'd assume that would speed things up.
05:56You would. But even with all that leverage, it still took years. That tells you something
06:01powerful about how rigid these systems are, especially the KYC Know Your Customer and the
06:06anti-money laundering rules they have to follow. Legally required. They just can't bend the rules
06:11on verifying identity, not even for a superstar. It's too risky for them.
06:15OK, so let's talk money then. The hypothetical financial side. What was the cost of being locked
06:20out? Our sources suggest looking at Bitcoin's price history during that time. We don't know exactly
06:25when he bought or how much.
06:26No, those details aren't public.
06:27But let's make a reasonable guess. Say he bought a good chunk maybe back in the 2017
06:32run-up or even early 2018 before things cooled off.
06:35OK, that's a plausible time frame. And if he was locked out from, say, late 2018 through to
06:42early 2024, think about what happened in the market then.
06:46Massive volatility. Huge swings.
06:48Exactly. He potentially missed two major bull runs. Critically, he couldn't touch his Bitcoin,
06:54couldn't sell or rebalance near the big peak in November 2021. Remember that. Bitcoin hit almost
06:59$69,000.
07:01Wow. OK, so let's just run a hypothetical number. Say he had, I don't know, 100 Bitcoin bought
07:06at maybe $10 average.
07:08OK, 100 BTC.
07:08At $69K, that's $6.9 million. If he only got access back when the price was, say, $40K,
07:15that's $4 million. The difference, just on that hypothetical 100 BTC, that's nearly $3 million
07:21in potential gains he couldn't realize because he was locked out.
07:24Practically. It's the opportunity cost. The money was technically safe, yes. Coinbase didn't lose it.
07:29But the inability to access it, to make decisions during those crucial market moments,
07:33that was the real penalty of the lockout.
07:35It shifts the focus, doesn't it? From worrying about hackers getting your coins,
07:38to worrying about the platform itself preventing you from using them.
07:41Yeah.
07:41You're quitting your risk.
07:42It's a huge lesson. An asset's only truly valuable if you can access it, sell it, use it
07:48when you need to. If you can't touch it, its market value is just theoretical. Functionally
07:54zero to you in that moment.
07:55Which leads perfectly to that question the sources raised for the audience, for you listening.
08:00Imagine going through that years of stress, knowing you have this potentially huge sum
08:06locked away. Then you finally get it back. It's worth, who knows, tens, maybe hundreds
08:10of millions. What do you do? Do you hold or do you sell immediately?
08:15It's fascinating psychologically, isn't it? The first feeling must be immense relief.
08:18You'd want to sell something just to prove it's real, to make the wait worthwhile, take
08:22some profit.
08:22Makes sense.
08:23But then again, someone who bought Bitcoin years ago probably did so with strong conviction,
08:28belief in its long-term value. If KD just dumped it all the moment he got access, well,
08:34that might signal the trauma of being locked out was worse than his belief in Bitcoin itself.
08:38But if he holds?
08:39If he holds, it suggests his underlying faith is still there. Even after experiencing probably
08:44the worst possible user friction imaginable, his decision, whatever it was, tells us a lot
08:51about the kind of conviction you need to really be in this crypto space long-term.
08:55So KD getting his Bitcoin back eventually. It's a success story in one sense, but the years it
09:00took, that immediately pulls us right back into that core philosophical debate in Web3.
09:05It just validates that old crypto saying, the most fundamental one.
09:09Let me guess, not your keys, not your coins.
09:11You got it. We say it all the time, but KD's situation really makes it concrete,
09:15doesn't it? When he put his Bitcoin onto Coinbase, he was making a trade-off. He gave up direct
09:20control for convenience, maybe ease of use.
09:23He trusted Coinbase to hold the keys for him.
09:25Exactly. He relied on them. They were the intermediary. He didn't hold the actual keys
09:29on the blockchain. He held essentially an IOU from Coinbase. They controlled the mechanism
09:34to access the funds.
09:35And while they protected it from hackers, apparently.
09:38Right. The funds seem to have been secure from external threats, but they couldn't protect
09:43him from their own system, their internal recovery rules, their bureaucracy. His story is a massive
09:50wake-up call about custody risks. A lot of retail folks, especially newcomers, might think using
09:55Coinbase or PayPal or Robinhood for crypto is just like using a bank.
10:00Assuming the same protections, same easy recovery, if you forget your password.
10:05Yeah. They overestimate the similarity. They don't grasp that the security hurdles,
10:09the identity verification exchanges have to enforce now, especially after things like FTX.
10:13It makes getting back in fundamentally different and often much harder than a bank just resetting
10:20your login.
10:20That seems to be the real fiction point. The convenience is why people use them.
10:23Undeniably. Without these easy on-ramps, crypto would still be incredibly niche.
10:27They serve a vital purpose for adoption.
10:29But that convenience comes with this hidden cost. Counterparty risk. You're trusting the platform,
10:34not just their cybersecurity against hackers, but also their admin efficiency,
10:39their customer service speed, their ability to navigate their own rules.
10:42All of it. And Katie's ordeal shows that administrative failure,
10:47the difficulty proving you are who you say you are after years,
10:51maybe with a changed phone number or email, can be just as damaging,
10:55maybe more so than an actual hack.
10:57So what are the specific things that cause this, this investor education gap you mentioned?
11:02What do people miss?
11:03Well, it's often not about understanding blockchain tech itself. It's simpler, more practical.
11:08It's about understanding you need a long-term plan for your own security details
11:12when using these platforms. You absolutely have to keep track of the exact email address
11:16you signed up with. The phone number, the documents you use for ID,
11:20like your driver's license or a utility bill.
11:23Because of those change over the years.
11:24Exactly. If you move countries, get a new phone, lose access to an old email,
11:29the exchange's KYC systems might flag your account, security review.
11:33And security review in crypto often means you're locked out, period.
11:37Yeah.
11:37Until you jump through hoops.
11:38Serious hoops. You might need video calls to prove it's you.
11:40So notarized documents, maybe matching biometric data from when you first signed up years ago,
11:45it can get incredibly complex.
11:48It's not just forgot password, is it? It's proving ownership of potentially millions of dollars.
11:52Precisely. The burden of proof has to be high to stop fraud.
11:56But that same high bar is what causes these nightmarish,
12:00multi-year lockouts like Durant apparently face.
12:03Okay. So if there's a silver lining to this whole mess,
12:06it's that it must be driving demand for better solutions.
12:10Things that bridge that gap.
12:12Absolutely. You see a definite uptick in interest for true self-custody.
12:17Hardware wallets, things like Ledger, Trezor.
12:20The idea of holding that physical device, having that 12 or 24 word seed phrase,
12:25it seems a lot more appealing when the alternative is potentially years of battling customer service.
12:30Makes sense.
12:30But interestingly, you also see the exchanges themselves responding.
12:34They're investing in their own self-custody products now,
12:37trying to offer ways for users to hold their own keys,
12:39but still use the familiar exchange interface.
12:41And this whole thing probably pushes other related areas forward too, like insurance.
12:46For sure. There's growing momentum around specialized crypto insurance.
12:50Not just for hacks or market crashes,
12:52but specifically covering things like lost keys or recovery failures.
12:56It's an acknowledgement that maybe the biggest risk isn't the tech,
13:00but human error and institutional bottlenecks.
13:02So ultimately, the KD story makes that trade-off crystal clear for everyone, doesn't it?
13:08Do you trust yourself completely, knowing if you mess up with self-custody, it's game over?
13:13Or do you trust a regulated but potentially slow and bureaucratic third party,
13:19knowing you might get locked out like he did?
13:21That's the decision.
13:22It's now front and center for anyone holding crypto.
13:24What risk are you more comfortable with?
13:26Okay, so KD got his Bitcoin back.
13:28That's the positive outcome here, eventually.
13:30But to really understand why that's significant,
13:33we need to look at the history of when things go permanently wrong in crypto.
13:36Yeah.
13:37Because it happens.
13:38A lot.
13:39Yeah, and it generally falls into two camps, both pretty devastating.
13:42There's self-custody failure, where the user messes up,
13:45and there's centralized failure, where the platform you trust collapses or loses your funds.
13:49Let's start with the classic self-custody horror story.
13:53The sources mention Stefan Thomas.
13:54Ah, yes, Stefan Thomas and the Iron Key.
13:56It's probably the most famous, most painful example of self-custody risk.
14:01It perfectly shows the finality of being your own bank.
14:04Remind us of the details.
14:05He had a lot of Bitcoin.
14:06He had 7,002 Bitcoin.
14:09And the keys were stored on this specific type of hardware wallet, an Iron Key.
14:13These things are designed for extreme security, the crucial feature.
14:17After 10 wrong password attempts, the device either wipes itself or permanently encrypts the data.
14:23Gone forever.
14:2410 strikes and you're out.
14:25Exactly.
14:26And Thomas, he'd written the password down but lost the paper.
14:30By the time he found the Iron Key again years later and started trying passwords,
14:34he realized he already used 8 attempts.
14:36Oh, wow.
14:36So he had two guesses left.
14:37Two guesses.
14:38To unlock what was by then worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
14:42Imagine the stress.
14:43His situation is the ultimate example of self-inflicted loss.
14:47Human error, forgetting, losing the note, meeting, unforgiving cryptography.
14:50Those coins are just gone.
14:52No recovery possible.
14:54And that's the stark contrast with KD, right?
14:57Thomas had no one to call.
14:59No customer service.
15:00No legal team could help.
15:02The math just wouldn't let him in.
15:03Precisely.
15:04In pure self-custody, if you lose the key, that's it.
15:08There's no backstop.
15:10Those coins are effectively burned, removed from circulation forever.
15:15Okay.
15:15So that's the risk if you hold your own keys.
15:17Yeah.
15:18What about the other side?
15:19Trusting an exchange.
15:20KD eventually got his back from Coinbase.
15:23But that's not always the case.
15:24No.
15:24Definitely not.
15:25And the prime example of centralized risk of ultimate counterparty failure is the collapse
15:30of QuadraGACX.
15:31The Canadian exchange, right?
15:32What happened there?
15:33QuadraGACX was pretty big at the time, but it turned out its operations, especially the
15:37security of the customer funds, relied almost entirely on one person, the founder, Gerald
15:42Cotton.
15:43When Cotton died suddenly, unexpectedly, while traveling in India, the whole thing imploded.
15:48Why?
15:49Didn't they have backups?
15:50Mm-hmm.
15:50Other people would access?
15:52Apparently not.
15:53Or not sufficient access.
15:55The sources indicate Cotton had sole control over the private keys for the exchange's cold
15:59wallets, the secure, offline storage where they held the vast majority of user funds.
16:05Hundreds of millions of dollars worth it.
16:07So the keys, the passwords, died with him.
16:10That's the allegation, yes.
16:11The users had put their trust in the centralized company, QuadraGACX.
16:15But the company itself had failed at the most basic level of internal controls.
16:20Key management, redundancy, succession planning.
16:23It wasn't a tech failure like a bug.
16:25It was a human governance failure at the center.
16:28And unlike KD with Coinbase, where the company still exists and has processes, however slow.
16:33The QuadraGACX users were just stuck.
16:36The custodian effectively vanished, taking the keys with him.
16:38A total unrecoverable loss for them.
16:41So you have Thomas representing the finality of messing up self-custaining.
16:44Right.
16:44And QuadraGACX, representing the risk that the central party you trust just disappears or fails catastrophically.
16:51Exactly.
16:51Those two poles perfectly frame the custody dilemma.
16:55And when you look at the data on how much crypto might be lost this way, the numbers are kind of staggering.
17:01That's where the chain-alysis research comes in.
17:03How do they even estimate that?
17:04Yeah, chain-alysis and others try to quantify it.
17:07It's tricky, obviously.
17:08But they look at blockchain activity, or rather, inactivity.
17:12They analyze wallets, especially large ones holding Bitcoin that haven't moved coins in many, many years, often since the very early days of Bitcoin.
17:20So wallets that are likely lost, not just H.O. dealing.
17:23That's the assumption, based on prolonged inactivity and sometimes linking them to known events like the Mt. Gox collapse or individual stories like Thomas'.
17:30The general consensus estimate, the figure you hear cited often, is that somewhere around 20 to 25% of the entire long-term holder supply of Bitcoin might be effectively lost or permanently inaccessible.
17:43Wow. Quarter. A quarter of the Bitcoin held by people who intended to hold long-term might just be gone forever.
17:50That's the estimate. It has huge implications for Bitcoin's true liquid supply, its scarcity.
17:55And it certainly makes KD's multi-year lockout feel even more precarious.
18:00He was potentially on the verge of joining that lost 25%.
18:03The data must also show how people react to these events, right?
18:07Like, do people flee exchanges after a Quadrig ACX?
18:10Oh, absolutely. You can see flows on the blockchain.
18:13When there's a major exchange hack or collapse, you often see a surge in Bitcoin moving off exchanges into private wallets, people getting spooked and taking self-custody.
18:21But then you hear a story like Stefan Thomas losing his keys or just the general hassle of self-custody.
18:27And the convenience, the potential recovery offered by regulated exchanges like Coinbase, starts to look appealing again.
18:33People move funds back onto exchanges.
18:35So it's this constant back and forth, a balancing act.
18:38It's a dynamic tension, always searching for that sweet spot between security, convenience, and risk.
18:44And stories like KD's just keep reshaping where people perceive that balance to be.
18:48Okay. Stepping back from the specifics of KD or Stefan Thomas, what does this whole situation tell us about the bigger picture?
18:56About Web3 actually reaching the mainstream?
18:58Well, I think the KD story really throws the biggest hurdle into sharp relief.
19:03Despite all the cool stuff happening, DeFi, NFTs, Layer 2 scaling, the fundamental user experience around just securing your assets, managing keys.
19:12It's still, frankly, kind of broken for the average person.
19:16It feels like the barrier to entry.
19:17It is the barrier.
19:18We can't realistically expect, you know, billions of people to adopt a financial system where forgetting a password, okay, a seed phrase, or losing a little USB stick means potentially losing your life savings permanently.
19:31That complexity, that unforgiving nature of private key management, it's the single steepest climb for crypto adoption.
19:37So the industry must know this.
19:39Is it driving innovation?
19:40Absolutely. This friction, these horror stories, they create immense pressure to find better ways.
19:47The industry has to innovate beyond just telling people, be more careful or don't lose your seed phrase.
19:53We need systems that offer self-sovereignty without that crushing absolute responsibility falling solely on the individual user.
20:02Okay. So what are some of these solutions?
20:04The sources mentioned ideas from Vitalik Buterin, social recovery wallets.
20:08Yeah, social recovery is a really promising concept Vitalik and others have pushed.
20:13It's a big shift in thinking.
20:15Instead of guarding one single secret, that seed phrase, which is a single point of failure, you use smart contracts to create a different kind of backup.
20:23How does it work? Do you give your keys to friends?
20:25No, not exactly.
20:26You designate a set of trusted contacts, maybe friends, family members, even other devices you own as guardians.
20:31The key thing is they don't hold your private key.
20:34Your wallet is controlled by a smart contract.
20:37If you lose access, forget your main password or lose your device, you can initiate a recovery process through the smart contract.
20:44To approve the recovery, like resetting access or changing the main key, a certain number of your designated guardians, say three out of five, have to agree.
20:53They use their own keys to sign off on your recovery request.
20:56Ah, so it's like a quorum.
20:58They collectively vouch for you.
20:59Exactly.
21:00It distributes the trust.
21:02It moves away from relying on perfect individual memory or security towards leveraging your trusted social network.
21:08It makes the Stefan Thomas scenario, one lost piece of paper, total disaster, much less likely.
21:14That sounds genuinely useful.
21:16What else is being worked on?
21:17MPC.
21:18Right.
21:19MPC, multi-party computation.
21:20This is a different approach, often used more by institutions right now, but the tech is moving towards retail, too.
21:25MPC tackles the problem that a private key, if it exists whole in one place, can be stolen or lost.
21:31So how does MPC avoid that?
21:33It uses advanced cryptography so that the complete private key never actually exists in one single location at any time.
21:41When the key is created, it's split into multiple pieces or shards.
21:45These shards are stored in different places, maybe one on your phone, one on a secure server, maybe one held by a specialized service.
21:52Okay, so it's distributed.
21:53Right. And to do anything, like sign a transaction, a certain threshold of these shards needs to be brought together computationally,
22:02but without ever fully reconstructing the original key in one spot.
22:06So if someone steals your phone, they only get one shard, which is useless by itself.
22:10It dramatically reduces the risk of a single point of failure.
22:14That sounds powerful, especially for organizations managing lots of funds.
22:18It is. And it could eventually offer individuals a way to have security that's maybe more robust than just a hardware wallet,
22:25but without relying on a single exchange like Coinbase.
22:28Which brings us back to KD's problem.
22:30The friction wasn't the tech security. It was the identity verification, the bureaucracy.
22:36Are there innovations tackling that side?
22:38Yes. And that's where the longer term vision of decentralized identity or DD comes in.
22:44The goal here is to stop users having to prove who they are from scratch,
22:48handing over passports and utility bills to every single platform they interact with.
22:53Like separating your identity from the platform itself.
22:55Exactly. Using things like verifiable credentials and cryptographic proofs,
23:00you could potentially build a secure, portable digital identity that you control.
23:05You could then grant specific platforms temporary access to verify certain claims about you.
23:11Yes, I am over 18. Yes, I completed KYC with this trusted issuer.
23:14Without handing over all the underlying data.
23:17Theoretically, this could make those agonizing multi-year recovery battles obsolete
23:21because proving your identity wouldn't rely solely on the records held by the one platform you're trying to access.
23:27But again, all these cool tech solutions, social recovery, MPC, DID,
23:31they still have to operate in the real world, right?
23:33Yeah.
23:33The regulations.
23:34And that is the fundamental tension.
23:36Exchanges like Coinbase aren't operating in a vacuum.
23:39They're regulated financial entities.
23:41They have to comply with strict rules, KYC, AML.
23:45They must verify user identities rigorously to prevent financial crime.
23:49And that need for rigorous, centralized verification is exactly what creates the friction that locked KD out for so long.
23:56Precisely.
23:57The company is caught in the middle.
23:59They need the tough checks to satisfy regulators and prevent fraud.
24:03That means bureaucracy, delays, friction.
24:06But they also need to provide a smooth, easy user experience to attract and keep customers like KD who expect things to just work.
24:14So that conflict regulatory burden versus user expectation, that's the root cause of his lockout situation.
24:20It's right at the heart of it.
24:22The hope is that innovations like social recovery and MPC can eventually allow platforms to meet their regulatory duties
24:27without relying solely on these slow, painful, centralized verification methods.
24:32But we're not quite there yet.
24:33The tech needs to mature, get adopted widely.
24:36Until then, that difficult tradeoff remains for users and platforms alike.
24:40Which brings us back one last time to you, the listener, thinking about everything we've covered.
24:45KD's struggle, the years of waiting for the eventual recovery through Coinbase.
24:50Does that make you lean towards trusting the exchange long term?
24:53Or does the risk of that kind of lockout, plus the stories like Stefan Thomas or Quadrig ACX,
24:58push you towards taking full control with self-custody despite its own risks?
25:02It really forces you to think about your own skills, your own patience, your own risk tolerance.
25:08Tech skills versus tolerance for bureaucracy.
25:10There's no single right answer, is there?
25:12Just different sets of risks you choose to accept.
25:14Hashtag tech tech tech outro.
25:15Well, this has been a really fascinating deep dive into the whole crypto custody issue,
25:20all sparked by Kevin Durant's story.
25:22If we boil down the key takeaways, KD's experience acted as this huge catalyst, right?
25:27It took a complex technical problem and made it a mainstream conversation.
25:30Yeah, absolutely. And we've seen the risks are real on both sides.
25:34Centralized custody has this friction risk, these potentially long lockouts.
25:39Self-custody has that risk of permanent loss from simple human error,
25:42which the data shows is a massive issue, billions lost.
25:45But importantly, this pain is actually driving progress.
25:49It's forcing the industry to develop better solutions.
25:52Things like social recovery, MPC wallets, trying to find that balance between security
25:57and actually being usable for normal people.
26:00Right. Which leads us to a final thought, something for you to chew on after this.
26:04Considering everything KD's high-profile struggle, the sheer amount of lost crypto,
26:09the bureaucratic nightmares people face, do you think stories like this ultimately help
26:14crypto adoption in the long run? By highlighting the problems and forcing innovation?
26:19Or do they mostly just scare potential newcomers away, making digital ownership seem too risky,
26:23too difficult?
26:24That's a really critical question for where Web3 goes next.
26:28Thank you so much for joining us for this deep dive into the Kevin Durant custody story.
26:32Yeah, thanks for tuning in. We'll catch you on the next one.
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