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00:00This case was just complete and utter shock.
00:07The jury reached a verdict.
00:09Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.
00:12Seeing them say goodbye was really hard.
00:15That was one of the worst days of my life, for sure.
00:18This thing has been torn apart.
00:20It was always like this, and now then it's like this.
00:24Our household is completely divided.
00:27Tell us what we can do to help you.
00:28That question could have come two and a half years ago.
00:32If they think we're just going to go back to this big, happy family,
00:36I don't know if it can ever be repaired.
00:42Chase is not Chase.
00:44It's literally like a blank shell.
00:46It's very sad, you know, to watch him suffer
00:48and know that there's nothing that I can do to help him.
00:51I don't know what my purpose is.
00:53There's a part of me that is so afraid that he's going to die.
00:57I literally, like, I don't even want to try to have a relationship with him.
01:03Can you believe they're coming home?
01:05I'm still in shock.
01:06Oh, my God.
01:08Talk to hell.
01:12I'm pissed off.
01:13I would have loved to have seen my mom or dad walk out of there.
01:16And I should have got to go pick up my son.
01:18The honeymoon wears off very quick.
01:27Do not underestimate who's coming back.
01:29Are you?
01:30I am.
01:31It's just a long day.
01:33Not a long day.
01:35Todd, I haven't seen him.
01:36I haven't talked to him since he left.
01:38We go.
01:38You going?
01:38Okay.
01:39They're an hour and a half away.
01:40I love you.
01:41I love you.
01:42Mama.
01:45He's about to be.
02:16Now, I want you to hurry up and get finished with this.
02:31I have lunch waiting.
02:34You know, when I do that to him, it scares him to death.
02:37And I'm so used to doing it for 10 years.
02:41I'll interview table one, Mark.
02:43Today, when I wake up in the morning, my routine that I'm back in that I had forever is, it
02:53means a lot more.
02:55Being able to go and eat what I want to eat, sitting by the pool, doing my phone calls,
03:001,500 thread count, grape sheets.
03:04Those are things that I cherish now.
03:06Being able to open a pantry or open a cabinet and get whatever you want to eat out up there.
03:12You know, cooking is my passion.
03:14Being able to cook and cook efficiently, not prison cooking.
03:18Having the kids at home is surreal.
03:20It really is because it feels like things are right now.
03:25You know, for 28 months, you know, I'm separated from my husband, from my children.
03:29Yes, I got to see the kids, but it's not like being at home.
03:34And so, it just feels like everything's right.
03:48You ain't had these in the cab.
03:52I don't know why they put these right here, or I can't even see the drive.
03:55Okay, I'll...
03:56Julie, Savannah!
03:57I see it!
04:00I didn't survive prison to come home to get killed by your driving.
04:05God, it's so good to be home and to see everything.
04:08And it's amazing that all the things that have changed in 28 months.
04:12I know.
04:12I mean, everything's changed except me.
04:15Daddy, shut up.
04:16So, this press conference, do we know yet how many hours is going to be there?
04:20No.
04:21No idea.
04:23The moment my parents got home, we really jumped back into it.
04:26Dad more so than mom.
04:28We set up a press conference because the news outlets were going absolutely insane.
04:33There were, like, hundreds of requests coming in to Alexa, my publicist, Alex, our lawyer.
04:38And we just figured, might as well kill all the birds with one step.
04:44Hello?
04:45Hey.
04:46Hey.
04:46I just want to talk about messaging today.
04:48Uh-huh.
04:49I'm not going to say much.
04:50I'm just going to kind of hand over to Savannah, then hand over to you.
04:52Mm-hmm.
04:53No negative, no, you know, BOP sucks, feds, you know, screw you, however much that would
04:58be wonderful to say.
04:59We can save that for later.
05:01But I think, especially because, you know, you guys are still negotiating deals, and I
05:04think this conference will help them get a sense of, like, the flavor of what's coming.
05:07Right.
05:07So I'd leave it with, like, wow, these are really wonderful, grateful people who are
05:12excited about what they can do in the world.
05:13Right.
05:14All right, we'll see you guys in the way.
05:15Bye, dear.
05:16Bye-bye.
05:16Bye-bye.
05:17Bye-bye.
05:17I love how people want to coach us on press.
05:21Well, Daddy, let's be real.
05:23Let's be real.
05:23I tell the truth.
05:24That's right.
05:26And y'all want to curb that enthusiasm.
05:27No.
05:29You say stuff that sometimes you shouldn't say, or that will come back and bite you in that.
05:34So you act like it's a shock that people need to remind you.
05:38To curb it.
05:41Are you nervous at all?
05:43No, I don't.
05:44I'm not.
05:45I mean, like, yesterday in the mall, you were, you definitely got overwhelmed.
05:50I got a, I had a little bit of anxiety yesterday when we went to Nordstrom.
05:53Only because of the press chasing us.
05:56Yeah.
05:57Oh, my gosh.
05:58I cannot.
05:59We literally came to Nordstrom.
06:00I have been out for 12 hours, and I'm shopping.
06:04Hold on.
06:04I have had to get these poor people here at the Nordstroms to help.
06:07Help me escape.
06:08Hell, they should have been there 28 months ago.
06:10Oh!
06:11Oh, you ain't getting this picture, huh?
06:13Oh!
06:14Oh!
06:15All right.
06:16Come on, Dad.
06:17Thank y'all.
06:19Leave me alone.
06:20Let me buy some damn underwear.
06:21Okay.
06:22Ready?
06:23Yep.
06:25Hi, boss.
06:26He's a teaser right there as well.
06:28Good to see you, too.
06:29Good to see you, too.
06:30Good to see you.
06:32Hi, boss.
06:33He's a teaser right there as well.
06:35Good to see you, too.
06:36Good to see you, too.
06:43There we go.
06:49Sorry, sorry.
06:57Good morning, guys.
06:59Thank you all very much for coming today.
07:01I want to thank, first and foremost, my Lord and Savior,
07:04because that's who got me through it.
07:07I want to thank President Trump.
07:08I want to thank the administration.
07:10I want to thank Alice Johnson.
07:12I want to thank every person that has prayed for us
07:14and that fought for the truth to come out.
07:16And, you know, we're grateful for everything that has happened thus far.
07:20And as bad as this experience has been,
07:21there's also been a lot of blessings to come from it.
07:24I have met some wonderful men.
07:26I have listened to some horrific stories
07:28about things that have gone on in our system.
07:31And whether you believe it or not,
07:33because I was you at some point,
07:35even though this pardon has happened,
07:38I still was convicted of something that I did not do.
07:42It could be you.
07:44It could be you.
07:45It could be any of you.
07:47And somewhere in this room,
07:49someone has had a family member
07:51that has been affected by this system.
07:54So I understand the shame that's around it,
07:57but I refuse to feed into that
07:58because shame is like a cancer that just spreads,
08:01and I have no shame.
08:02So we're blessed to have our family back,
08:05and we're blessed to be coming back to television
08:08because we do have a much bigger story to tell now
08:12than we ever have.
08:13So I thank each and every one of you.
08:15We're happy to open this up for some questions.
08:17I'll start here.
08:18Uh, Mr. Chrisley,
08:19do you have any remorse for the actions
08:21that led to your divisions?
08:23Do I have any remorse?
08:24I would have remorse if it was something that I did.
08:26Next question.
08:27Um, you haven't seen your wife in so long.
08:32Hearing her voice, seeing her, what was that like?
08:36It was overwhelming.
08:38Julie and I have been together for over 30 years,
08:40and she is my best friend.
08:42We have raised our children together,
08:44and it was great to be home.
08:47No matter where that is, as long as she's there, it's home.
08:50I was grateful for our family to be all back in the same room,
08:53to be together, to share a meal together,
08:55to pray together,
08:56and to know that we're still in the fight together.
08:59Thank you all very much.
09:00Awesome. Thank you.
09:01Y'all have a wonderful day. God bless.
09:03We end this press conference.
09:05I feel great.
09:06I'm employed.
09:07I'm free.
09:09I'm still remotely hot.
09:12I'm good.
09:13All my friends from the prisons texted me.
09:17So proud.
09:18You look so good.
09:20Man, you representin'.
09:21We're so proud.
09:22Chrisley, Chrisley, 2028.
09:24Couldn't have been better.
09:29Hello.
09:29Hey, darling.
09:31Did you watch it?
09:33No, I didn't even know.
09:36It was live on Fox, on every news outlet.
09:39I'm here.
09:39I was in the pantry.
09:40I'm sorry.
09:41We're going to the seamstress now.
09:44Okay.
09:45All right, I love you.
09:46All right, love you, love you.
09:47I really do think that your mama needs to be in therapy quick.
09:51Yeah.
09:53Yeah, I'll do.
09:58I do see a little bit more reserve.
10:00And Julie.
10:02She's a little bit more quiet.
10:04You know, I think when we first came home, Julie was kind of in a state of shock that she was actually home.
10:10And then, you know, not knowing what her routine, how she needed to start her routine and what was going to be her normal now.
10:20I can say for sure that there is a period of just getting reacclimated.
10:26You know, for 28 months, I've had to take care of me.
10:29So, there is this part of me that is having to get back in that groove.
10:36And the first few days were really tough.
10:38You know, I think that, especially my kids, I think they thought that I was going to be exactly the same as before I left.
10:48You know, they kept saying, Mom, you're different.
10:50Mom, you're this.
10:51Mom, you're that.
10:52And, yeah, I'm different.
10:55You know, I've gone through something that has been very traumatic.
10:59I lived through it.
11:01But still, you can't go through something like that and not be changed.
11:06And I told her, I said, I'm not fighting with Pam and Harvey.
11:09Uh-uh.
11:10That's her mom and daddy.
11:11And you said last night what I wanted to say.
11:15They didn't go see me one time, but yet they didn't have a problem in letting me up.
11:18Pay to go for them to move up here and to pay that mortgage on that place.
11:22My dad's relationship with my grandparents has, again, always been extremely respectful.
11:30He has bitten his tongue a lot.
11:33My parents have gone above and beyond to help my grandparents throughout the years
11:37and to show up for them and provide for them.
11:42And, yes, they moved to Nashville, and my parents were the ones that paid for it.
11:46I know from the outside looking in, my mom has always had a very respectful relationship.
11:52with her parents.
11:53I do know, though, that there's a lot of anger and resentment towards my grandfather
11:57for the exact same reason I have anger and resentment.
12:01My father, if he's honest, will tell you the biggest bone of contention that we have is Chase.
12:07Because my father will side with Chase against me every single time.
12:12Whether I am right or wrong, indifferent, he will do it every single time.
12:17Um, and so it's, it's definitely been an issue because of that reason, you know?
12:22I, I felt like that if I, if I'm doing, trying to do the right thing by my child,
12:29then you as my father should stand beside me.
12:32And he doesn't see it that way.
12:36Julie and Todd being out, um, does feel different than I had hoped that it would be.
12:45Just a plethora of emotions.
12:46I mean, just like, flood you.
12:48Because so much has changed.
12:50And it may, it makes me sad.
12:52It does make me sad.
12:53Hello.
13:11How are y'all?
13:12We're doing well.
13:13How are you?
13:13Good.
13:14You know what?
13:15I'm going to have a really small watermelon.
13:17Look at that.
13:18A small watermelon?
13:19Yes.
13:19Okay.
13:20Yeah.
13:21And I'm going to do a small, um, let's just do a peach.
13:27Peach?
13:27Yeah.
13:27Would you like some cream on it?
13:29Like a peaches and cream?
13:30Yeah, that'd be good.
13:31Okay.
13:31Just a little, not a lot.
13:32Okay.
13:32Yeah.
13:35When's the last time we went on a date together?
13:38We're on a date now.
13:40Today?
13:41Oh, okay.
13:41Yeah, today probably in the last 30 years at least.
13:45I see.
13:46You, you're such a pessimist.
13:48Where'd you take me last time?
13:49Uh, let's see.
13:50I took you to the car show.
13:52And the swap meet before that?
13:54That was, that, that's not dating.
13:55That's not a date night.
13:57It's supposed to be about you and I, not about where you want to go.
14:02You know, we don't really do dates.
14:05We, we, that's no, that's something that has just never been something we've ever done.
14:10I mean, we go out to eat a lot and when we, we're in South Carolina, we went out to eat
14:17almost every day and we'd go with our friends, you know, one of our friends or something.
14:23But we just have never been, we've just never done stuff like that.
14:29That's just not our nature.
14:30You know, I was thinking about something.
14:33You don't realize how much you miss somebody until they've been gone for a while.
14:38You know, I miss Julie and Todd being around.
14:41I miss their personality.
14:46You know, it's kind of like a recipe and they're, those ingredients, you try to replace them
14:51with something else, doesn't taste the same.
14:54I just thank God they're safe and they're home.
14:58And hopefully when they get, have some time to themselves and get adjusted and stuff, we'll
15:03be able to spend more time with them.
15:04Yeah.
15:05Well, we don't want to, we don't want to crowd them out, you know, because remember they
15:09hadn't seen each other in almost two and a half years.
15:12Yeah.
15:13So they've got to get reintroduced.
15:15That'd be like not seeing you for two and a half years.
15:19You know, the hard part would be telling all my girlfriends I couldn't see them anymore
15:22if I started seeing you again.
15:23Mm-hmm.
15:24He laughed.
15:25Yeah, okay.
15:26Okay.
15:29You and Pam ended up leaving before Todd got home.
15:35Yeah, because he got home early, early, early in the morning.
15:37And Pam works, and I think I was still subbing at school.
15:44I have not seen Todd.
15:45I figure when he gets ready, he'll give me a call or invite me to come over, and I'm fine
15:50with that.
15:51Since both of them are out now, I don't know what I expected, but I was hoping different.
16:00I mean, I talk to Julie on the phone every day.
16:02I've talked to her every day since she's been back, so that's been good, but it's not like
16:09seeing her every day.
16:10Yeah.
16:11Julie has said that it's been an adjustment and a struggle since she's been home.
16:15Mm-hmm.
16:15She said that the other night.
16:17I knew that she was going through that adjustment period and stuff.
16:21It's because I know my daughter.
16:23My hope was that we would all be together as a family, could get along, and everybody
16:29just enjoy being together and spending time together.
16:32And so far, that hasn't happened, but I'm not to say that it's not going to, because
16:40I feel in my heart that it will eventually.
16:43But I think everybody just has to have their space, their time to deal with their anxieties.
16:52When, you know, you come back and you haven't seen your spouse for almost three years, haven't
17:00really talked to them, and then you come back and try to make everything be like it was before,
17:06but it's never going to be like it is before, and if they say that, then it's not true.
17:10I know that they've changed, because I don't think you can be away from someone for 29 months
17:21and something not change, because you've had no communication with that person for 29 months.
17:30So I think there's a lot of reconnecting.
17:36I think there's a lot of adjusting to what is our life going to look like from now until
17:44the end of our lives.
17:49I think, you know, they're going to have to kind of put all this behind them, forgive each
17:56other, and move forward.
18:00Oh, I think Julie definitely has a story to tell, and I think she'll be able to share that
18:05when she's ready.
18:14I think being able to see Julie on the FaceTime call meant more because it was the first time
18:20I was actually getting to see her.
18:23What was in each of your minds when you knew you were going to finally see each other?
18:28Sex.
18:29It had been 28 months.
18:31It was, I'm not going to sit here and lie.
18:33Okay.
18:34And when you got that call that you were going to be released and you were going to
18:37finally see Todd and her family, what were you picturing in your head?
18:41I said, he's going to kill.
18:41God, I'm going to have to have sex with him for four minutes.
18:43I said, he's going to kill me when he sees my hair.
18:46And that was true, because she looked like Trailer Park Tracy.
18:49And you know I love you.
18:50Well, Tyler's the one that had me grow it out, because he said he couldn't color it.
18:54So I thought.
18:55That shows you right there, you cannot trust a gay hairdresser.
18:58No, he actually didn't.
18:59Find you a Pentecostal hairdresser.
19:00It actually, he didn't.
19:02It was actually the best thing, because he said.
19:04No, it wasn't.
19:05Don't put any more box color on your hair, but let it grow out.
19:08So by the time you leave, it'll all be gone and I'll be able to color it.
19:11But why did you even put it on to begin with?
19:13Because it was gray.
19:14Okay, but hell, that was better than that.
19:17Looked like you've been dipped in s**t.
19:18When I saw you, I'm like, sex can wait.
19:25It waited 10 more minutes.
19:27I mean, I gave in.
19:38Bye.
19:42My fight for my parents is now over, but with that, now I've been thrust in the political
19:49world, and I got asked to speak at the Young Women's Turning Point Conference.
19:53I felt that it was the perfect time to bring mom, for us to get away, and just kind of acclimate
20:00back to what our world is.
20:02How are you?
20:03I'm good.
20:04Oh, my God.
20:05Congratulations.
20:06Oh, my God.
20:07It's huge.
20:07This is my mom.
20:08Come here, Mom.
20:09You know Nancy Mace.
20:10She worked so hard.
20:11So she hit everybody up that she possibly knew and screamed at them until they came
20:17through.
20:17I love that.
20:18I love that.
20:18The moment that I returned home, it's been crazy.
20:23Are you nervous?
20:24I feel like you are nervous.
20:25No.
20:26Or you're tired.
20:26Are you tired?
20:28There is a period of just getting reacclimated.
20:32And, you know, to be thrown back into that.
20:35Oh, you get the biggest hug.
20:36Oh, thank you.
20:39Was I prepared for that?
20:41Probably not.
20:42Is it weird seeing Savannah, like, in this situation?
20:55No, not really.
20:57I mean.
20:58Is it overwhelming?
21:00Yeah.
21:00It's a lot.
21:01There's a lot of people.
21:02So, and I haven't been around this many people, you know, in a long time.
21:05I know.
21:06So, yeah, this has been a lot.
21:07Yeah.
21:10Hey, we're ready to get you wiped out.
21:12Awesome.
21:13All right.
21:14Come on, Mom.
21:15Come this way.
21:17My mom, I could tell being at the event with so many people, it was very overwhelming.
21:23I can see how it was a lot.
21:26But, I mean, heck, when you teach a baby to swim, you're just throwing them in the water.
21:30So, I think that's just what we do here.
21:32We just throw her into it.
21:36All right, guys.
21:44This is absolutely insane.
21:51I've actually talked to a few women that I was in prison with that have already gone home,
21:56and the sentiment is all the same.
21:59They're like, it took months.
22:01Like, it took, talked to a friend of mine just the other day, and she's like,
22:04it took me a good six months just to feel like, start to feel like myself again.
22:10Where I was, it was a small space.
22:12It was one building that we did everything in that building.
22:16That's where we slept.
22:17That's where we ate.
22:18That's where we watched television.
22:19That's, everything was confined to one building.
22:22So, you got to know people really well in a short amount of time, because we were all that each other had.
22:29I met great people in there.
22:33I really did.
22:34I met some women that I will, I will stay in contact with and be friends with forever.
22:39I had a dear friend who is 77.
22:44We actually played cards.
22:45She was my card partner.
22:46So many young, young women who I could be a mentor to.
22:53I remember two of the girls when I left, she was my roommate.
22:58She was crying, and she said, I feel like we're being, we're being orphaned, you know, because I was there.
23:04You know, a lot of them come from situations where they didn't have that present mother in their life.
23:12They didn't have someone who invested time in them.
23:15So, I tried to do that.
23:16And, you know, those are the things I'll never forget.
23:20And I'll never forget them.
23:24Look at what just one daughter did.
23:28I did it because I refused to give up.
23:30Well, the past two and a half years, I have fought day in and day out to get my parents home.
23:37And now that it's finally here, I'm still in shock.
23:43I'd be lying if I didn't say that, like, us Chrisleys know when to strike when the iron's hot.
23:49What better way to end my speech than to have her walk out?
23:53This is your cue, by the way, back there.
23:55And today, because of God, and pardon my language, a pissed-off daughter, and Donald J. Trump,
24:06my mom, my mom, is here.
24:15Everyone's hard thing is their hard thing.
24:18You know, it's their thing that they're having to go through at the time.
24:20And, you know, I do.
24:23I hope it is a light for people to see, okay, I'm going to come out on the other side.
24:29This is not forever.
24:32You know, the rain's going to let up, and the sunshine's going to come out eventually.
24:38It's a lot.
24:38I think we're going to do a few questions.
24:46You know, the day that we had, you know,
25:16to self-surrender to the different locations that you and I had to go to,
25:20I did my processing, you know, fingerprinting, and all that stuff that goes along with it.
25:24It was really scary because it was a real principle.
25:28It was, like, fence and gates and bars.
25:32That was just the check-in for the women for the camp.
25:34And then I got in this van with two ladies, and they took me to where I was going to be staying.
25:41The men started coming up to me, shaking my hand, and saying,
25:45we're here if you need us.
25:48If you need something, let us know.
25:50This is when you have chow, and blah, blah.
25:52I said, what is that?
25:53And they said, they laughed.
25:55They said, well, for you, it's probably lunch and dinner.
25:58They said, laundry is on Monday and Wednesday.
26:00Monday is your laundry, Wednesday is your sheet day.
26:04I said, okay.
26:05I said, so where is the dry cleaner?
26:08And they laughed, and they said, the dry...
26:10I said, well, you send your clothes.
26:11And he said, no.
26:12You have laundry here, not dry cleaner.
26:15They took me to my room.
26:16I had someone.
26:18She helped me get my bed.
26:20She had me a new bed.
26:22And they all just kind of rallied around me.
26:27I remember making up my bed and laying down, and I started praying.
26:33I just felt like I'm at peace.
26:38It was almost this relief.
26:41It had all come to a head.
26:43You know, we had had the trial.
26:44We had had the sentencing.
26:46We had all these months leading up.
26:47Years now, years we've been dealing with this.
26:50And, okay, this is what I have to do.
26:53Okay.
26:54I'm here.
26:56This is the start of the end.
26:58I know what I have to do, and I can do it.
27:02I remember Savannah and Grayson and Chloe coming, and Chase, and we were sitting at our table.
27:10And I remember this one time, this little kid, a little black boy that came in.
27:14And he saw us, and he ran straight into my arms.
27:20And his mother looked, and she knew who we were.
27:22And she ran, and she said, Chauncey.
27:25And I said, he's fine.
27:27And she said, he watches y'all every day.
27:29He knows who y'all are.
27:30So, Chauncey became a member of the Chrisley family on my first visitation.
27:36For about four months, that was allowed to continue until one day, an officer approached me and said,
27:43you're not allowed to hold him.
27:45And I looked at her, and I said, because he's black?
27:49And he goes, you heard what I said.
27:51I can end your visitation.
27:53During that time, I started paying closer attention to my surroundings.
27:57I was soaking it in like a sponge.
27:59It was like an adrenaline rush for me to absorb everything that I knew that was wrong in humanity.
28:05I called out what I believed in my heart that God wanted me to call out,
28:09which was social injustice, which was inhumane treatment,
28:13which was physical abuse, psychological and emotional abuse.
28:17I was almost like the private investigator.
28:20I was the one bringing all the information to Barbara Walters.
28:23And Barbara was putting it out in the streets.
28:27Barbara is my daughter, Savannah.
28:29Office of Inspector General released a report in May of this year,
28:34and it states that the Bureau of Prisons, all 123 institutions,
28:39are in need of over $2 billion worth of repairs.
28:44The first news show I did was Fox News,
28:47and the Bureau of Prisons released a statement that contradicted everything that I said.
28:52And when that happened, it truly lit a fire in me to just go scorched earth.
28:59At that point, all these individuals felt that they could reach out to me and share information,
29:04employees that worked there.
29:06I mean, packages were showing up to Alex Little's office of audio recordings,
29:10photos, videos, you name it.
29:13When I started releasing all of it, there was 14 staff members that left.
29:19There was at least 30 pens, ink pens, that were recorders that multiple staff and inmates were wearing
29:28to capture them with this abuse.
29:32And now all of those recordings have been turned over to the new director.
29:37I believe at this point in my life, at 57 years old, God has said to me to be a voice for those who have no voice.
29:45We're grateful for everything that has happened thus far, and as bad as this experience has been,
29:50there's also been a lot of blessings to come from it.
29:53I have met some wonderful men.
29:54I have listened to some horrific stories about things that have gone on in our system.
29:59I will continue to fight for all of the guys that I dealt with and that I was blessed to be with at FPC Pensacola.
30:07I will continue to expose the injustices that go on there and throughout the Bureau of Prisons.
30:12And I will continue to do that.
30:15I will continue to be a voice for my brothers that I walked out of there that day.
30:19I will continue to be a voice for my brothers that I walked out of that day that were chanting my name,
30:33that were begging me not to forget them.
30:42I will continue to fight for those that can't fight for themselves.
30:49Well, yes, it's great that we're back because, I mean, I want to be with my children for the rest of my days.
30:56But, you know, I would have hoped that in these 28 months that they would have matured to the place
31:02to where they would need me to come and sit down and say,
31:05Mediate.
31:06You will play nicely together.
31:07Hey, girl.
31:21Hey, darling.
31:23You just made my day sunshine.
31:26What?
31:27I've called you 19 times now.
31:29Oh, I called you 19.
31:31You ain't even bothered.
31:33You precious thing.
31:34I love you, pumpkin.
31:39What you been up to?
31:41And what have you been up to?
31:43I'm doing my own same thing.
31:46So you're at the casino?
31:48Yeah, I have been.
31:49Not now, but I have been.
31:51The last three days?
31:52Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
31:54Four days.
31:55Four days.
31:56Why is your house a mess?
31:57Well, you know, I've been on a little vacation.
32:03I didn't have time to clean it up.
32:05I mean, if things cleaned up, you just need to pick up a few little things.
32:08Oh, my God.
32:09So what you been up to?
32:11Just working.
32:13Have you been over there to see Savannah then?
32:15No.
32:16They don't need me no more.
32:18I ain't nothing now.
32:19They don't need me.
32:21Since Mom and Dad got home?
32:22Oh, yeah.
32:23And I'm glad to give them a job.
32:24Now, listen, it ain't hurt my feelings at all, but I'm trying to relax.
32:32I haven't gotten to relax.
32:35Why?
32:36Because Dad's been on my ass 24-7 since he...
32:38Well, no, he let you rest about 30 minutes, Chester, because he's on me.
32:44How's your mama doing?
32:45You've been loving up on that precious thing.
32:49As much as I can.
32:50I mean, I haven't been able to go over there very much because of Savannah, because she
32:56and I can't get along.
32:57Well, you just didn't know her.
32:59Nanny, I can't...
33:00Like, whenever I go over there, it makes the whole situation uncomfortable.
33:03And, like, I'm not going to make Grayson or my mom and my dad feel uncomfortable, like,
33:08just because me and Savannah can't get along, just because she's Vladimir Putin's daughter.
33:12How often are you seeing your parents now that they're home now?
33:21Um...
33:22More than when they were locked up.
33:26I mean, Savannah's, like, making it all...
33:29I don't know, but...
33:32Any chance I get to go over there and see my mom and see my dad, I'm taking it.
33:40Like, but my dad's also not skipped a beat, so he's busy.
33:44Um...
33:44I've gotten to go over there and spend one-on-one time with him.
33:49I've got to spend one-on-one time with my mom.
33:51So, I'm very, very blessed.
33:57But...
33:58Well, I done told her to keep her mouth shut.
34:00Nanny, it's never going to happen.
34:01I don't even think that relationship is repairable.
34:04But that's your sister.
34:06Now, you're going to argue.
34:07Nanny, we don't speak.
34:09I know, but maybe that's the problem.
34:11Y'all don't speak enough to get it all out.
34:13Well, we're not speaking.
34:15Well, I'm going to tell you what.
34:16I'm going to get me a whistle.
34:17I'm going to put you two together, and I'm going to reference.
34:20Chase.
34:21Just get up and be the best you can be.
34:25Everybody's not going to like you.
34:27Now, everybody don't like me.
34:30But I love everybody.
34:32So, that's what you need to be.
34:34Just be proud you was able to do what you did.
34:36Regardless, which side it come from.
34:40She does not want a relationship with me.
34:42Well, she just tells me.
34:43She has flat out said she does not want a relationship with me.
34:46She does, but she wants you to be in a better place.
34:49That's what she said.
34:50How can Savannah know what place I'm in when Savannah doesn't even know me?
34:53Ever since mom and dad went away, she completely kicked me out of the family.
34:57She doesn't know what place I'm in.
34:59Whatever.
35:00Savannah's that hypocrite.
35:01I love her, but say the out of my business.
35:03Don't talk about me.
35:04I won't talk about you, and we'll leave it at that.
35:07I just want her to leave me alone.
35:09Like, it's ridiculous.
35:10I can't go see my mom and my dad without her being uncomfortable because of her.
35:18You know, where Chase and Savannah are right now is an uncomfortable situation, but it's
35:22not one that I'm feeding into because one's not going to get me over here to get me to
35:27talk about the one that's not here, and this one's not going to get me to talk about the
35:31one that just left.
35:32They're both my children, and I love them equally.
35:34I don't have that luxury.
35:36I don't have my brother who I can go to and I can sit down and have dinner with or fight
35:41and make up with, and that's how I feel.
35:43And I told both of them, I said, it's the greatest form of disrespect to me and your mother
35:47for y'all to ever be fighting because every one of y'all were conceived from pure love.
35:54Savannah is very cut and dry.
35:57If you do something that embarrasses her or you are out here partying and acting like an
36:03idiot, and that gets back to her, that sends her to a whole other level.
36:07I'm that way.
36:10But I'm not turning my back on my child.
36:14And as I said to her last week when she and I had a heated conversation, I said, you will
36:20listen to me.
36:22That is your brother.
36:24He is my son, and he will be welcome anywhere I stand.
36:29And you better get over your with him because you're not going out here holy rolling and
36:34saying that you're fighting for the world when you won't fight for your brother.
36:38I have told Chase, just because you're now in a better place and you want to say, I'm
36:47sorry, that that doesn't mean that because you're in a place to where you want to apologize
36:52and, okay, we're done, let's move on.
36:55The person you offended doesn't have to be at the same place at the same time.
37:00But at the end of the day, it is not going to continue because I'm not going to tolerate
37:05it.
37:06I actually, I sent Savannah's scripture this morning, and if you don't mind, I'll read
37:10it to you.
37:12I said, whoever claims to love God yet hates his brother or sister is a liar.
37:20For whoever does not love their brother and sister whom they have seen cannot love God
37:27whom they have not seen.
37:35How are you feeling?
37:51You get to see me and my brother.
37:54You get to see me and my brother.
37:56You ready?
37:59You're all right.
37:59Here we go, guys.
38:00You're good.
38:04Hey.
38:05The big man.
38:06Hey, good to see you, man.
38:07I appreciate you.
38:08Thank you so much.
38:08I see you on TV a lot.
38:10I see you on TV a lot.
38:12Glad we finally get to sit down and talk and do some business.
38:15Yeah.
38:17It's a good business that we were blessed to be in.
38:19Yes, yes, yes, yes.
38:21I came into Chase's life at his possible lowest.
38:26I believe that he truly is changing and that he doesn't want, you know, the life or any
38:32of the decisions that he used to make to be a part of his future.
38:36He wants the Hope family to be a family again.
38:39He doesn't want animosity and hurt.
38:41And, you know, he wants to be that loving, caring family again.
38:46He wants it more than anything.
38:48We don't need to say this on camera, but just so we can add to try.
38:51How long have you been sober?
38:53Uh, four months.
38:55Four months?
38:55Great.
38:55Yeah.
38:56That's amazing.
38:57How hard was that?
38:59It really wasn't hard.
39:01I mean, it was, I think I just got sick and tired.
39:04And I was just exhausted.
39:06And I got tired of disappointing my loved ones.
39:11And Jody right there, she was a big inspiration.
39:14By the way, what does Jody mean to you?
39:16What does Jody mean to me?
39:18Yeah.
39:19Jody's my whole world.
39:20If I didn't have Jody throughout my parents, I probably, I'm probably going to be here right
39:27now.
39:28She just never gave up on me.
39:31Very proud of him.
39:33I think this is an all-moment of, you know, them reaching out and wanting this from him.
39:39And I know it makes me proud.
39:43Makes me get choked up.
39:47Yeah, I think he's come a long way.
39:49And I'm just, I'm really, really proud of him.
39:58I just, I love him dearly.
39:59And I think, you know, he's finally got the confidence that he needs.
40:05And I've always seen, you know, in him what he can offer and what he can do.
40:11And I think that's what makes me emotional is, you know, it's finally coming to reality
40:15for him.
40:16And, um, I'm happy.
40:19I'm so happy for him.
40:21Um, he deserves it.
40:22And I'm just, I'm very, very proud of him.
40:28Moving to Chase, like, how did, how is he handling life, um, from your, you know, while
40:34you were away?
40:35Chase was my, my one that really struggled.
40:40His whole world came crashing.
40:42They, they're, they're all, all their worlds came crashing down.
40:46Um, I don't know exactly what's going on with Chase.
40:49For about four years, Chase has had stomach issues.
40:54When I saw him, I thought my heart was going to break because I realized how thin he was.
40:59And so I've been on top of that ever since I got home.
41:02And to the point that Chase is, Chase is irritated right now.
41:06I'm 30 years old.
41:08I don't need my dad going to the doctor with me.
41:10And I said, well, clearly you do.
41:12I said, because you still have not gotten to the bottom of it.
41:15Now, is Chase still drinking?
41:17I don't know if Chase is still drinking.
41:19I can tell you that I will know because Chase is one of those that you know from the first sip.
41:24Yeah.
41:25If he's drinking.
41:26Yeah.
41:27He, so if he is, he's not going to come around me for me to call it out.
41:30I don't personally believe he's drinking right now.
41:33And I don't know if that's me lulling myself into a false sense of hope or if he's just actually not.
41:41Whatever's going on, I just want Chase to be healthy.
41:44I want him to be mentally in a good headspace.
41:47I want him to be just, um, I want the best for him, as I do all my kids.
41:53You know, I, I want him to, to find his place, find, find, get in his groove.
41:59I know what he has the potential to be.
42:01And when Chase is on and when he's good, he's so good.
42:05But when he's not, he's just not.
42:08I've been worried for his health since I have been in prison.
42:13So it's very, very important to me.
42:16I have always said, you are only as happy as your saddest child.
42:20I have always said to me, by your way, when I was just a little.
42:22No, no, no, no.
42:24You are talking about it.
42:25I have always said to me, at least when he goes into my dreams.
42:28Exactly.
42:29We all we have, you know, I won't be at me.
42:30I have always said to me.
42:31I have always said to me.
42:33I am going to two dozen little였ers to me.
42:34Good morning.
42:37And we have to be resting.
42:39I'm not sure everything is inside.
42:41I'll be trước when I'm in prison.
42:43We have to福祉 with water in water.
42:46As I do ready to eat right now, Ja' AMBRE.
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