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00:00Grazie
00:30Buonasera a tutte e buonasera a tutti e grazie di questa grande partecipazione
00:39grazie soprattutto alle nostre meravigliose ospiti di questa sera
00:43voglio accoglierle con un grandissimo applauso
00:48una e un'amica, Katy Piri
00:50che è portavoce sull'immigrazione e l'asilo del suo partito
00:58una delle figure più promettenti del partito laburista
01:03che da poco si è fuso in Olanda con i Groenlinks
01:07ed è in questo momento impegnata in una campagna elettorale
01:10molto difficile per le elezioni politiche che si terranno alla fine di ottobre
01:15per cui voglio che facciamo a lei, a tutto il suo partito, a Franz Timmermans
01:19un grande in bocca al lupo
01:21e poi la gioia di ospitare qui una donna che è stata per noi grande ispirazione
01:35mentre era prima ministra del suo paese, la Nuova Zelanda
01:41e ha ispirato le progressiste e i progressisti oltre ogni confine
01:45Jacinda Ardern, grazie di essere con noi
01:48accoglietele con tutto il calore di cui siete capaci
01:52grazie, grazie, grazie
01:54ora ovviamente io continuerò in inglese la conversazione con le nostre ospiti di oggi
02:07ma prima c'è una cosa che voglio fare in italiano
02:10voglio ringraziare il PD di Milano, il segretario Capelli, la segretaria Roggiani
02:17voglio ringraziare soprattutto però tutte le nostre volontarie e volontari
02:21che tengono in piedi le nostre 500 feste dell'unità come questa
02:26grazie
02:27grazie perché siete voi il cuore pulsante della nostra comunità
02:31senza la base scordiamoci le altezze
02:35grazie
02:37grazie
02:38so, I was thanking you for the gift of being here with us today
02:42and I wanted to start with you Jacinda
02:46asking about what you're doing right now
02:49you're touring the world with your new book
02:53and we can see, you can see and you can find also here the book
02:56we just discovered that the Italian version is like a hundred pages longer
03:02because, you know, we like to use more words
03:06so, the book is A Different Kind of Power
03:11why do you think there is a need for a different kind of power and leadership?
03:18and what kind of leadership is that?
03:21well, first of all, grazie mille
03:24thank you for having me
03:25it's so wonderful
03:28so wonderful to be here with my friends
03:34in, you know, next to New Zealand
03:37one of my favourite places on earth
03:40so thank you for having me
03:41you know, my answer is simple
03:43why do we need a different kind of power?
03:46because look at the world
03:47look at the world right now
03:50you know, I think when young people look at politics
03:54they wonder where our humanity has gone
03:56and you need only look at the poly crisis we have
03:59war
03:59a lack of focus on climate change
04:02and these existential crises
04:04the fear and uncertainty
04:06that comes from financial insecurity
04:09and technological disruption
04:12at the core of empathetic leadership
04:16is people
04:17and right now in all of these crises
04:20we need to be reminded
04:21that politics is an act of public service
04:24and we are there to serve the needs of our people
04:27and yet we feel this drift, I think
04:30from those who hold power currently
04:32and what people need in their daily lives
04:35so that's why in my mind
04:37we need to be out there
04:38championing an approach
04:40that is focused on people
04:42and an approach that is focused on kindness and empathy
04:45and do you think it is enough
04:49to be a female leader
04:50to embody a different kind of leadership?
04:55just asking for a friend
04:56I mean my question
04:58to anyone
05:00to any audience
05:02let alone an audience
05:04perhaps of like-minded people
05:05would be
05:06what did you teach and value
05:09when it came to raising your children
05:12or when it comes to being a role model to others
05:16what do we value?
05:18no, we value curiosity
05:21we value bravery
05:23and courage
05:24and generosity
05:25and we also value kindness
05:28we teach our children to be kind
05:30why
05:32when it comes to political leadership
05:35do we interpret kindness to be weak?
05:39in the world we live in today
05:41the decision to act with empathy
05:44is an act of courage and bravery
05:47it takes strength to be in politics
05:50it takes even more strength
05:52to be an empathetic leader
05:54so I believe these values
05:56are not just values
05:58that are held
05:59or should be held by women
06:01we should expect them
06:02of all of our leaders
06:04you founded a fellowship
06:21you founded a fellowship field
06:23to strengthen the network of empathetic leaders
06:27and connect women
06:29that are engaged in politics
06:31all across the world
06:33can you tell us a little bit more about it?
06:36you know I think that
06:37in politics right now
06:39we have this
06:40very singular focus
06:42on a particular style of leadership
06:45and I think it's one of the reasons
06:48that we see increasingly
06:50people are disengaging from politics
06:52and we see in the global surveys
06:55there's a survey that's been happening
06:57internationally for many years
06:59the Edelman survey
07:00it tracks trust and confidence in politics
07:04and it has found that not only
07:06have we got very low levels of trust in politics right now
07:10we have a sense of grievance
07:13people feel a grievance towards our political leaders
07:17because they feel that disconnection
07:19and we can see why
07:21the type of politics and leadership
07:23they see daily in the media
07:25is often in the extremes
07:27people who are using inflammatory statements of blame
07:32to try and attract voters
07:34and to also keep the spotlight away from them
07:38making a difference in people's lives
07:40and so the reason that I'm working on empathetic leadership in part
07:45is to model that an alternative
07:46is not only viable
07:49it can be successful
07:50but also because I want to put a spotlight
07:52on those who are in politics to serve people
07:56not to serve themselves
07:57and there are good people still in politics
08:01two of them are on this stage here
08:03I don't want people to lose hope
08:06Cathy, in the Netherlands
08:17we have seen the failure
08:20of the extreme right of Gert Wilders
08:25to form a government
08:27that was chaos for months in your country
08:30and then to keep it in charge for more than a year
08:34now you're facing this very important national election
08:38in the Netherlands on the 29th of October
08:40so what is at stake for your country?
08:43thank you and buona sera a tutti
08:46that's all you were here in Italian from me
08:52grazie
08:55yes, it's going to be important elections
09:00of course every election is always important
09:02but I have the feeling
09:03that there's a lot at stake
09:06at these national elections in the Netherlands
09:09we had for the first time
09:11the most far-right government
09:14ruling the Netherlands
09:17since the Second World War
09:18and to be very honest
09:20for most people
09:22this meant that everything stood still
09:25there were four parties
09:27including Gert Wilders
09:28as the biggest party
09:29trying to govern the Netherlands
09:31it was chaos every week
09:33and they did not manage
09:35with big promises they made
09:38to the electorate
09:39they did not manage
09:40to do anything
09:43on the promises they made
09:45they didn't manage
09:47to put any law
09:48into legislation
09:50so actually to be honest
09:52Ellie
09:52for a lot of people
09:54time stood still
09:55and if you're rich
09:58it's fine if time stands still
10:00but if you need good education
10:03if you want something to be done
10:06with climate change
10:07adaptation
10:08if you want something to be done
10:10with housing
10:11one of the biggest problems
10:13in the Netherlands
10:13is that young people
10:14cannot
10:15they're still living with their parents
10:17they cannot move
10:18to an affordable housing
10:20you cannot allow your country
10:22to stand still for years
10:23so that's one of the biggest issues
10:25another issue
10:26which is at stake
10:27is democracy itself
10:29democracy itself
10:31we have seen
10:32when the far right is in power
10:34they don't respect parliament
10:36they don't always respect
10:38how things were done
10:40for many years
10:42they try to do
10:43emergency legislation
10:45emergency legislation
10:47bypassing parliament
10:48and of course
10:50the blame politics
10:51that is the
10:53you know
10:53the selling point
10:55of the far right
10:56putting people up
10:57against another
10:58and perhaps
10:59as a last point
11:00one of the saddest thing
11:03is that
11:04you know
11:05a lot of right-wing parties
11:07said
11:08Geert Wilders
11:09became the biggest
11:10let him govern
11:12his voters will see
11:14he doesn't deliver
11:15and then
11:16he will be less popular
11:17the opposite is true
11:19the opposite is true
11:20actually right now
11:22you only have one force
11:23on the right
11:24which is the far right
11:25it's only the far right
11:27it's only the far right
11:27and the trust of people
11:29in politics in the Netherlands
11:31is now down to
11:32four percent
11:34four percent
11:36so it's the trust of
11:37politics being able
11:39to make a change
11:40in people's life
11:41that's what's at stake
11:43at this election
11:43and I very much hope
11:45that all the democratic parties
11:48will take this very seriously
11:50and show
11:51that a different type
11:52of politics
11:53is possible
11:54a way of politics
11:55where we can move forward
11:57and no longer
11:58standing still
11:59Jacinda you have been
12:10the leader
12:11of the Labourist Party
12:13in New Zealand
12:15and were elected
12:16prime minister
12:17for six years
12:18of mandate
12:20what are the policies
12:22you managed
12:22to implement
12:23that you're most proud of
12:25and at the same time
12:27what is instead
12:28a difficult choice
12:30or moment
12:30that you remember
12:32during your time in charge
12:34yeah I mean
12:35I remember
12:37very early on
12:39in my political career
12:41I was in parliament
12:42for 15 years
12:44and I remember early on
12:46at the beginning
12:47of a parliament session
12:48we were all asked
12:50to give a minute silence
12:51because a past member
12:53of parliament
12:54had passed away
12:55and the first few times
12:58that happened
12:58I knew the people
12:59because I loved politics
13:02but I remember
13:03the first time
13:04I didn't know
13:05the name of the person
13:06I was standing for
13:07and it was a reminder
13:09to me
13:10that your time
13:11in politics
13:11is a moment in time
13:14it will pass
13:15and it's not about
13:17what your legacy
13:20is with your name
13:21on it
13:21it's about the policies
13:23that stick
13:24and to make a policy
13:27stick
13:28people have to believe in it
13:30they have to cherish it
13:31they have to love it
13:32they have to make sure
13:33that no one takes it
13:34away from them
13:35and sometimes it means
13:37building consensus
13:38for those policies
13:39so the things
13:40I'm proud of
13:41are some of the things
13:42that we did on climate change
13:44that we managed to get
13:45the opposition
13:45to vote for
13:46I'm proud that we managed
13:48to ban military-style
13:50semi-automatic weapons
13:51in New Zealand
13:52and that the opposition
13:53voted for it
13:54I'm proud that we passed
13:55child poverty laws
13:56and that the opposition
13:58voted for it
13:59I'm proud of the things
14:01that I hope will last
14:02beyond me
14:04those are the things
14:05I'm proud of
14:06You mentioned the
14:14that you managed
14:16to set a high ambition
14:17on fighting climate change
14:19we remember that
14:20we remember you
14:21passing
14:22very strong
14:23climate legislation
14:24we were
14:25taking inspiration
14:27out of it
14:28I remember that
14:29I was
14:30in a campaign
14:31for Emilia-Romagna region
14:32at the time
14:33and we were saying
14:34look
14:34we have the same population
14:36quite the same GDP
14:37pro capite
14:38we have to do the same
14:40and so
14:41there was
14:42you know
14:43verification
14:44to check out
14:45if it was true
14:45that we were the same
14:47and we could do the same
14:48as New Zealand
14:49but
14:49how would you explain
14:51something that also
14:52me and Cathy
14:53have been working on
14:54for years
14:55when we were together
14:56in the European Parliament
14:58that
14:59social justice
15:01and climate justice
15:02are deeply interconnected
15:04how would you explain
15:06that
15:06with complete examples
15:07also from what you have done
15:09in New Zealand
15:10I have to say
15:11I mean
15:11it's a different debate
15:14in my country
15:15in my country
15:17we are not having
15:18a debate
15:18about whether or not
15:19climate change
15:20is real
15:21because we are
15:24deeply
15:25climate affected
15:26and our neighbours
15:27are deeply
15:28climate affected
15:29we are a
15:30Pacific nation
15:31one of the realm
15:33countries
15:34of New Zealand
15:35is a set
15:36of three
15:36atolls
15:37called
15:37Tokelau
15:38I visited
15:39one of those
15:40atolls
15:40and I stood
15:41at the edge
15:42of the atoll
15:42as the leader
15:44of that atoll
15:45showed me
15:46a graveyard
15:47where
15:48they had buried
15:49their people
15:50that New Zealand
15:51had helped build
15:52a sea wall
15:53to protect
15:54the gravesite
15:55and only after
15:56a few years
15:57it was gone
15:58their atoll
15:59was washing
16:00away
16:01and when
16:02you think about it
16:03from that perspective
16:04from the perspective
16:05of those
16:06where this is
16:06not a debate
16:07about what will
16:08happen in 50 years
16:09time
16:09it's happening
16:10now
16:10Tokelau
16:12is trying
16:13to get
16:13the international
16:14community
16:15to allow
16:16them to still
16:17be defined
16:18as a nation
16:19state
16:20if they don't
16:21have land
16:22because Tokelau
16:24will be one
16:24of the first
16:25islands to go
16:26so in my
16:27country
16:28we absolutely
16:29understand
16:30that if you
16:31don't have
16:32a home
16:33you literally
16:33don't have a
16:34home
16:34you are a
16:35refugee
16:35if you
16:37can't
16:37insure
16:38your property
16:39anymore
16:40because the
16:41weather
16:42is so
16:43changeable
16:43that no
16:44one will
16:45flood
16:45protect
16:45you
16:46or
16:46landslides
16:47increase
16:48or your
16:48crops
16:49are lost
16:49climate change
16:51affects people's
16:52lives and
16:53livelihoods
16:54so the debate
16:55we're having
16:56is how fast
16:57do you go
16:58and how much
16:58responsibility
16:59do you hold
17:00now as a
17:01progressive
17:02my view is
17:03always a
17:04collective one
17:04no one
17:06should be
17:07off the
17:07hook
17:07we all
17:09have a
17:09responsibility
17:10there is no
17:11geographic
17:12boundaries
17:12when it
17:12comes to
17:13this issue
17:13because what
17:14you do
17:14here
17:15affects us
17:16at the
17:17bottom
17:17of the
17:17world
17:17this is a
17:19time for
17:19progressive
17:19values
17:20because it
17:21will only
17:21take that
17:22collective
17:22approach
17:22to solve
17:23climate
17:23the
17:23climate
17:24crisis
17:24Cathy
17:34we were
17:35together
17:36in
17:36Utrecht
17:37in July
17:38to celebrate
17:39a historic
17:40congress
17:41where
17:41that sealed
17:43the merge
17:44la fusione
17:45of your
17:46Labour Party
17:47with the
17:47growing links
17:48can you tell
17:49us what
17:50brought your
17:50parties to
17:51that decision
17:52and how
17:53did it
17:54change
17:54your
17:55political
17:55vision
17:56of the
17:56future
17:57yeah
17:58it was
17:59a nice
17:59congress
18:00look
18:03I think
18:03it started
18:04already
18:0520
18:0525 years
18:06ago
18:07that
18:07members
18:08of our
18:08parties
18:09were
18:09talking
18:09with
18:10each
18:10other
18:10especially
18:11when we're
18:12in opposition
18:13like perhaps
18:14we should
18:14do a
18:15merger
18:15but then
18:16every time
18:17that the
18:17Labour Party
18:18went into
18:19government
18:19there was
18:21no such
18:22interest
18:22anymore
18:23for merging
18:24with the
18:25Greens
18:25who were
18:26in the
18:26opposition
18:26and I
18:28think
18:28if you
18:29look
18:29you know
18:29Ellie and me
18:30we were in
18:31the European
18:31Parliament
18:32and who
18:32were the
18:33allies
18:34of Labour
18:35always in
18:36the European
18:36Parliament
18:37when it
18:37came to
18:38whether it's
18:39fighting for
18:40climate change
18:41but also
18:42whether it's
18:42fighting for
18:43raising the
18:46minimum wage
18:47for affordable
18:48housing
18:48for all those
18:49social justice
18:50issues
18:51our natural
18:52allies
18:52have always
18:53been the
18:53Greens
18:53but nationally
18:55the Greens
18:57and Labour
18:58Party
18:58were always
18:59the ones
19:00competing
19:01with each
19:01other
19:01for votes
19:02we were
19:03always
19:03fighting
19:04each other
19:04for votes
19:05in the
19:06Netherlands
19:07we have
19:0715
19:08political
19:08parties
19:09in Parliament
19:10and the
19:10last Parliament
19:11even had
19:1119 parties
19:13in Parliament
19:14and this
19:14is where
19:15four years
19:17ago
19:17a couple
19:18of us
19:18said
19:19it's
19:19enough
19:20it's
19:20enough
19:21the moment
19:21that for
19:22the European
19:22Parliament
19:23elections
19:24they published
19:2530 questions
19:27which each
19:28party had
19:28to fill
19:29in
19:29and the
19:31Greens
19:32separately
19:33from the
19:33Labour
19:34we all
19:35filled in
19:36the same
19:36answers
19:37to 30
19:37questions
19:38so
19:39they had
19:39to make
19:40up a
19:4031st
19:41question
19:41to show
19:42the difference
19:43between
19:43the two
19:44parties
19:44when it
19:45comes to
19:45policies
19:46and this
19:47is the
19:47reality
19:48it's
19:48always
19:49you're
19:49fighting
19:50for the
19:50same
19:50votes
19:51rather
19:52than
19:52uniting
19:53there are
19:54so many
19:54issues
19:55which we
19:56have
19:56in common
19:57and the
19:57fight
19:58we need
19:58to do
19:58today
19:59is so
20:00much
20:00bigger
20:00than
20:01this
20:01bickering
20:02on the
20:02left
20:03and it's
20:04always
20:04the
20:04leadership
20:05which
20:05has a
20:05problem
20:06with
20:06this
20:07type
20:07of
20:07PD
20:08has
20:08been
20:08through
20:09it
20:09right
20:09the
20:10Parti
20:10Democratic
20:11has
20:11been
20:12through
20:12making
20:13sure
20:14that
20:15left
20:15parties
20:16unite
20:16Elie is
20:17I think
20:17the example
20:18of how
20:20you try to
20:21align
20:21against the
20:22far right
20:23in Italy
20:24all the
20:24left-wing
20:25progressive
20:25voters
20:26and the
20:27funny thing
20:27is that
20:28the first
20:28time we
20:29had a
20:29vote
20:29of our
20:30members
20:31whether
20:32they want
20:32these two
20:33parties
20:34to merge
20:34into one
20:35above
20:3790%
20:38of the
20:39members
20:39said
20:39yes
20:40and
20:40every
20:40vote
20:41we
20:41had
20:41since
20:42then
20:42was
20:43above
20:4390%
20:44people
20:45want
20:46to have
20:46a
20:47united
20:47left
20:48a
20:48united
20:49left
20:49which
20:50is
20:50fighting
20:50for
20:52their
20:52livelihoods
20:54and
20:55this
20:55is
20:55where
20:56after
20:56the
20:57far
20:57right
20:57won
20:57the
20:58last
20:58national
20:58elections
20:59we
20:59had
21:00the
21:00European
21:00elections
21:01and we
21:02went
21:02in it
21:02together
21:03with
21:03one
21:04list
21:04with
21:05one
21:05program
21:05as
21:06one
21:06united
21:07party
21:07and we
21:08won that
21:08election
21:09and I
21:09very much
21:10hope
21:10the end
21:10of
21:10October
21:11we
21:12will
21:12also
21:12show
21:12at
21:12the
21:13national
21:13level
21:13that
21:14united
21:15we
21:15stand
21:16strong
21:16whether
21:16it's
21:17in
21:17Italy
21:17or
21:17whether
21:18it's
21:18in
21:18the
21:18Netherlands
21:18this
21:19is
21:19what
21:20we
21:20should
21:20be
21:20doing
21:21bravo
21:21I
21:30I
21:30couldn't
21:30agree
21:31more
21:31Cathy
21:31and
21:32you
21:32know
21:32also
21:32our
21:33party
21:34comes
21:34from
21:34a
21:35merge
21:35of
21:36important
21:37parties
21:37of
21:37the
21:37past
21:38and
21:39the
21:40challenge
21:40was
21:40to
21:40put
21:41together
21:41different
21:42political
21:43cultures
21:44that
21:44now
21:45are
21:45feeding
21:45us
21:46the
21:47new
21:47generation
21:48who
21:48keep
21:49together
21:50all the
21:50different
21:50political
21:51culture
21:51the
21:52socialist
21:52the
21:53catholic
21:53democratic
21:54culture
21:55but also
21:55the
21:56communist
21:56culture
21:56the
21:57democratic
21:57culture
21:58so
21:58we
21:59are
21:59now
21:59seeing
21:59and
22:00you
22:00see
22:00and
22:00when
22:01we
22:01say
22:01hi
22:02also
22:02to
22:02the
22:02giovani
22:03democratic
22:03because
22:04they
22:04are
22:04now
22:05standing
22:06up
22:06as
22:07the
22:07generation
22:08who
22:08come up
22:09from
22:09the
22:09merge
22:09and
22:10it's
22:11working
22:11but
22:13I
22:13think
22:13that
22:13unity
22:14is
22:14important
22:14also
22:15for
22:15another
22:16matter
22:16and
22:17we
22:17are
22:17happy
22:18to
22:18be
22:18able
22:18to
22:19say
22:19and
22:19to
22:19welcome
22:20you
22:20today
22:20in
22:20the
22:21festa
22:21democratica
22:22di
22:22Milano
22:23festa
22:23dell'unità
22:24by
22:24saying
22:25that
22:25we
22:25managed
22:26in
22:26the
22:26last
22:27weeks
22:27to
22:28build
22:30in
22:31all
22:31the
22:31seven
22:32regions
22:33that
22:33will
22:33go
22:33to
22:33vote
22:34and
22:34it
22:34hasn't
22:35happened
22:35for
22:3520
22:36years
22:36because
22:37we
22:37believe
22:38in
22:38unity
22:39to
22:40fight
22:40the
22:41rights
22:42and
22:42what
22:42they
22:43are
22:43doing
22:43to
22:43our
22:43country
22:44Jacinda
22:47talking
22:48about
22:48party
22:49organization
22:49in
22:51your
22:51book
22:51you
22:52describe
22:52one
22:53moment
22:53after
22:54the
22:55primaries
22:55for
22:56the
22:56leadership
22:56of
22:57the
22:57party
22:57where
22:58your
22:58candidate
22:59lost
22:59by
23:00one
23:00percent
23:00and
23:02you
23:02mentioned
23:02that
23:03under
23:03the
23:03new
23:04leader
23:04your
23:05team
23:05was
23:05newly
23:06disciplined
23:06and
23:08all
23:08the
23:08leaks
23:09that
23:09had
23:09destabilized
23:11the
23:11party
23:11over
23:12so
23:12many
23:12years
23:13calmed
23:14down
23:14asking
23:15again
23:15for
23:15a
23:16friend
23:16how
23:16did
23:16you
23:16do
23:17it
23:17yeah
23:19and
23:20just
23:20to
23:20say
23:21that
23:21again
23:23I
23:24spent
23:24nine
23:25years
23:25nine
23:27long
23:28years
23:28waiting
23:30to
23:31do
23:31something
23:31useful
23:32in
23:32politics
23:33being
23:34in
23:34an
23:34opposition
23:34is
23:35so
23:35hard
23:36it's
23:36so
23:37hard
23:37and
23:37people
23:37get
23:38restless
23:38and
23:39they
23:39get
23:39frustrated
23:40and
23:41that's
23:41when
23:41people
23:42are
23:42restless
23:42and
23:43frustrated
23:43and
23:44waiting
23:44to be
23:44useful
23:45and
23:45to
23:45make
23:46change
23:46sometimes
23:48they
23:48start
23:48fighting
23:49amongst
23:49themselves
23:49and
23:51sometimes
23:51that
23:51leads
23:52to
23:52leaks
23:52and
23:52destabilization
23:53and the
23:54undermining
23:54of
23:55leaders
23:55when
23:57that
23:57starts
23:57to
23:57happen
23:58I
23:58have
23:58one
23:58question
23:59that
23:59I
24:00put
24:00to
24:00any
24:01of
24:01my
24:01colleagues
24:01or
24:02any
24:02party
24:02movement
24:03or
24:03any
24:03party
24:03membership
24:04or
24:04wherever
24:04the
24:05problem
24:05may
24:05be
24:05existing
24:06the
24:07question
24:07I
24:07ask
24:08is
24:08this
24:09why
24:10are
24:10you
24:10here
24:11if
24:12you
24:12are
24:12here
24:13because
24:13you
24:13like
24:13to
24:13play
24:14politics
24:14if
24:15you
24:15are
24:15here
24:15because
24:16you
24:16like
24:16the
24:16cut
24:17and
24:17thrust
24:17and
24:18you
24:18like
24:18the
24:18games
24:19then
24:20you're
24:20in
24:20the
24:21wrong
24:21place
24:21and
24:22people
24:23will
24:23see
24:23it
24:23the
24:24public
24:24will
24:25see
24:25that
24:25you
24:25are
24:25there
24:26for
24:26the
24:27art
24:27of
24:27politics
24:28and
24:29not
24:29to
24:29serve
24:30them
24:30more
24:31that
24:31you
24:31fight
24:32amongst
24:32yourselves
24:33the
24:34less
24:34you
24:34are
24:34fighting
24:35on
24:35behalf
24:35of
24:36the
24:36people
24:36that
24:36you
24:36are
24:36there
24:37to
24:37serve
24:37you
24:38will
24:38bring
24:39yourself
24:39down
24:40if
24:40you
24:41fight
24:41amongst
24:42yourselves
24:42so
24:43always
24:44ask
24:44the
24:44question
24:44why
24:45are
24:45you
24:46here
24:46and
24:47if
24:47it's
24:47not
24:47for
24:48the
24:48people
24:48then
24:49move
24:49on
24:49in
24:56your
24:56book
24:56you
24:57also
24:58is that
24:58too
24:59blunt
24:59is that
25:00too
25:00blunt
25:01in
25:02your
25:03book
25:03you
25:03often
25:03talk
25:04also
25:04about
25:04the
25:05so
25:05called
25:05impostor
25:06syndrome
25:07this
25:09is
25:09something
25:09the
25:10idea
25:11of
25:11impostor
25:11syndrome
25:12yes
25:13does
25:13that
25:13translate
25:14yes
25:14and
25:15this
25:17is
25:17something
25:18women
25:18experience
25:19in
25:19all
25:19different
25:20roles
25:21and
25:21jobs
25:21we
25:22have
25:22how
25:23did
25:24you
25:24learn
25:24to
25:24live
25:25with
25:25it
25:25while
25:26bearing
25:26the
25:26responsibility
25:27of
25:28ruling
25:28your
25:28country
25:29you
25:31know
25:31I
25:31think
25:31the
25:31main
25:32point
25:32you
25:32make
25:32there
25:33is
25:33how
25:33did
25:33you
25:33learn
25:34to
25:34live
25:34with
25:34it
25:35people
25:35often
25:35ask
25:36me
25:36how
25:36did
25:36you
25:37overcome
25:37it
25:37and
25:39I
25:39don't
25:39know
25:39that
25:39you
25:39do
25:40you
25:41know
25:41if
25:41you
25:41have
25:42ever
25:42doubted
25:43your
25:43ability
25:44to
25:44do
25:44a
25:44job
25:45or
25:45wondered
25:45if
25:45you
25:46are
25:46the
25:46right
25:46person
25:47then
25:48that's
25:49a
25:50version
25:50of
25:51imposter
25:51syndrome
25:52and
25:53I
25:53have
25:53no
25:53magic
25:54to
25:55share
25:56on
25:56how
25:56to
25:57get
25:57rid
25:57of
25:57that
25:57but
25:58what
25:59I
25:59do
25:59know
25:59is
26:00this
26:00thing
26:01that
26:01we
26:02treat
26:02somehow
26:03as
26:03being
26:04a
26:04weakness
26:04maybe
26:06it's
26:06not
26:06because
26:08anyone
26:08who
26:08has
26:08ever
26:09doubted
26:09themselves
26:10they'll
26:11do
26:11something
26:11differently
26:12because
26:12of it
26:13they'll
26:13prepare
26:14they'll
26:15research
26:16they'll
26:17anticipate
26:17risk
26:18they'll
26:18bring
26:18in
26:19an
26:19expert
26:19or
26:20an
26:20advisor
26:21or
26:21someone
26:22who
26:22can
26:22make
26:22sure
26:23that
26:23they
26:23have
26:24all
26:24the
26:24information
26:25they
26:25need
26:25to
26:25make
26:25the
26:25best
26:26decision
26:26they
26:27will
26:27bring
26:27humility
26:28to
26:29leadership
26:29and
26:31maybe
26:31that's
26:33what we
26:33need
26:33a little
26:33bit
26:34more
26:34of
26:34in
26:35these
26:35times
26:35so
26:36I
26:36think
26:37my
26:37position
26:38changed
26:39I
26:39don't
26:40see
26:40imposter
26:40syndrome
26:41as a
26:41weakness
26:42anymore
26:42I
26:43think
26:43actually
26:44it's
26:44a
26:44strength
26:44so
26:45that's
26:46the
26:46only
26:46advice
26:47I
26:47can
26:47offer
26:47Cathy
26:55when we
26:57met in
26:57July
26:58there
26:59was
26:59let's
27:00say
27:00a tough
27:01debate
27:01a tough
27:02debate
27:03around
27:04your stance
27:05your position
27:06on Gaza
27:07when you
27:08right
27:08when you
27:10rightly proposed
27:11to stop
27:11selling weapons
27:12to Netanyahu's
27:14government
27:14what was the
27:21impact
27:22of that
27:24position
27:24and did
27:25it put
27:26pressure
27:26to change
27:27the position
27:28of the
27:28right-wing
27:29government
27:29yes I
27:32think
27:32we
27:33all
27:33are
27:34witnessing
27:34one of
27:36the
27:36biggest
27:37war crimes
27:38that we
27:38can see
27:39on a
27:39daily
27:39basis
27:42on our
27:43phones
27:43when we
27:44enter
27:44the
27:45television
27:46when we
27:46watch
27:47the
27:47news
27:47and
27:49there
27:49is no
27:50leadership
27:51standing up
27:52and saying
27:53no
27:53and this
27:54is enough
27:55and this
27:56is a
27:56problem
27:56we
27:57are
27:57facing
27:57all
27:58over
27:58the
27:58world
27:59all
27:59over
28:00the
28:00world
28:00so
28:01when
28:01we
28:01organized
28:02our
28:02congress
28:03just
28:03the week
28:04before
28:04we
28:05handed
28:05in
28:06I
28:06handed
28:06in a
28:07motion
28:07in
28:07parliament
28:07calling
28:09for
28:09a
28:09full
28:10weapon
28:10embargo
28:11to
28:11Israel
28:11the
28:13right
28:13was
28:14furious
28:14and
28:15they
28:16were
28:16attacking
28:16us
28:17for
28:17days
28:17before
28:18a
28:18party
28:18congress
28:19but
28:20how
28:21can
28:21anyone
28:22explain
28:22to
28:23any
28:24country
28:24to
28:25any
28:25country
28:26that
28:27we
28:27would
28:27be
28:27sending
28:28weapons
28:28to
28:29a
28:29country
28:30committing
28:30genocide
28:31to
28:32a
28:32country
28:33committing
28:33ethnic
28:34cleansing
28:35we
28:42would
28:42never
28:43do
28:43that
28:44with
28:44any
28:45country
28:45so
28:46this
28:47double
28:47standard
28:48why
28:49we
28:49are
28:49doing
28:49that
28:50with
28:50Israel
28:50is
28:52the
28:52double
28:52standard
28:52of
28:53the
28:53right
28:53it's
28:54the
28:54double
28:54standard
28:54of
28:55the
28:55right
28:55and
28:55I
28:55think
28:56you
28:56see
28:56it
28:56all
28:57over
28:57not
28:58only
28:58in
28:58Europe
28:59I
28:59think
28:59also
28:59you
29:00see
29:00it
29:00in
29:00the
29:00United
29:01States
29:01that
29:02the
29:02public
29:03the
29:03people
29:04in
29:05the
29:05country
29:05are
29:06much
29:06more
29:07critical
29:07than
29:08the
29:08politicians
29:08I
29:09have
29:10never
29:10in
29:10the
29:1011
29:11years
29:11that
29:11I'm
29:11in
29:12politics
29:12I
29:13have
29:13never
29:13seen
29:13a
29:14topic
29:14where
29:15there's
29:15such
29:16a
29:16gap
29:17between
29:17what
29:18the
29:18people
29:18expect
29:19from
29:19their
29:19politicians
29:20to
29:20do
29:20and
29:21what
29:21politicians
29:22are
29:22doing
29:23so
29:24yes
29:24we
29:25had
29:25just
29:25like
29:26here
29:26in
29:26Italy
29:26I
29:30saw
29:30the
29:30brave
29:31people
29:31going
29:31on
29:32the
29:32street
29:32saying
29:33it's
29:33enough
29:34there's
29:35a
29:35red
29:35line
29:36that
29:36we
29:36are
29:36not
29:36willing
29:37to
29:37cross
29:37and
29:38we
29:38had
29:38the
29:38same
29:39in
29:39Holland
29:39we
29:39had
29:40200,000
29:40people
29:41on
29:41the
29:41streets
29:42in
29:42The
29:42Hague
29:42we're
29:43a
29:43smaller
29:43country
29:44than
29:44Italy
29:44which
29:45was
29:45our
29:45biggest
29:46demonstration
29:46in
29:4725
29:47years
29:48so
29:49the
29:49public
29:50is
29:50demanding
29:51from
29:51politicians
29:52to
29:53act
29:53to
29:54come
29:54with
29:55sanctions
29:55because
29:56if
29:56you
29:56don't
29:56sanction
29:57it
29:57you're
29:58approving
29:59it
29:59so
30:06that's
30:06why
30:07according
30:09to us
30:09the
30:10minimum
30:10the
30:11minimum
30:11we
30:12should
30:12be
30:12doing
30:12is
30:13a
30:13full
30:13weapon
30:14embargo
30:14stop
30:15trade
30:16with
30:16illegal
30:17settlements
30:18recognize
30:20the
30:20state
30:21of
30:21Palestine
30:22and
30:25make
30:25sure
30:25that
30:27those
30:27people
30:28who
30:28are
30:29responsible
30:29are
30:31being
30:31brought
30:32to
30:32justice
30:33and
30:51perhaps
30:52Ellie
30:52if I
30:52can
30:52add
30:53one
30:53sentence
30:53because
30:56it was
30:56a
30:56tough
30:56debate
30:57in
30:57my
30:57party
30:57and
30:58we
30:58had
30:58some
30:58members
30:59who
31:00left
31:00the
31:00party
31:00because
31:02of
31:02this
31:02stance
31:03we
31:03had
31:03and I
31:04fully
31:04understand
31:05whatever
31:05your
31:05personal
31:06position
31:06is
31:07especially
31:08if you're
31:08a Jewish
31:09Dutch
31:09how difficult
31:11it can be
31:12sometimes
31:12that people
31:14are blaming
31:14you
31:15for what
31:16Israel
31:16is doing
31:17so
31:17we
31:17had
31:18more
31:18or
31:18less
31:18800
31:19people
31:19who
31:19left
31:20the
31:20party
31:20after
31:20that
31:21congress
31:21but
31:22we
31:22also
31:23gained
31:2320,000
31:24new
31:25people
31:25after
31:26that
31:26party
31:27congress
31:27who
31:28said
31:28this
31:28is
31:28the
31:29movement
31:29that
31:29I
31:29want
31:30to
31:30belong
31:30to
31:30and
31:31we
31:31are
31:31now
31:31the
31:32biggest
31:32political
31:33movement
31:33in
31:33the
31:33Netherlands
31:34and
31:48let me
31:48add
31:49to
31:49that
31:49that
31:50in
31:51these
31:52days
31:52there
31:53is
31:53probably
31:54the
31:54biggest
31:55humanitarian
31:56mission
31:57starting
31:58spontaneously
31:59from the
31:59bottom
32:00that is
32:00leaving
32:00for
32:01Gaza
32:01the
32:02global
32:02sumot
32:02flotilia
32:03and
32:04we
32:04stand
32:04in
32:04solidarity
32:05with
32:06the
32:06activists
32:07and
32:07we
32:08want
32:08the
32:08European
32:09governments
32:09and
32:10the
32:10European
32:10Union
32:10to
32:10protect
32:11them
32:11because
32:12they
32:13were
32:13threatened
32:13and
32:15we
32:15have
32:15to
32:16say
32:16that
32:17what
32:18they
32:18are
32:18doing
32:19is
32:20trying
32:20to
32:21break
32:21the
32:22illegal
32:23block
32:23of
32:24humanitarian
32:25aid
32:25and
32:25food
32:26to
32:26Palestinians
32:27but
32:28they
32:28are
32:28only
32:29doing
32:29what
32:30the
32:30governments
32:31of
32:31the
32:31European
32:32Union
32:32were
32:32supposed
32:33to
32:33do
32:33and
32:35we
32:35are
32:35proud
32:36that
32:37among
32:37thousands
32:38of
32:39activists
32:39there
32:40will
32:40be
32:40four
32:41members
32:41of
32:41the
32:41Italian
32:42parliament
32:42including
32:43two
32:43members
32:44of
32:44Partito
32:44Democratico
32:45Arturo
32:46Scotto
32:46Annalisa
32:47Corrado
32:48and we
32:48say
32:49Buon
32:49Vento
32:49because
32:51they
32:51represent
32:51all
32:52of
32:52us
32:52and
33:09let me
33:09also
33:10add
33:10that
33:11we
33:11are
33:11fed
33:12up
33:12with
33:13the
33:13hypocritical
33:14words
33:14of
33:15our
33:15government
33:16while
33:16they
33:17vote
33:17against
33:17the
33:18shy
33:18sanctions
33:20that the
33:20European
33:21Commission
33:21has
33:22proposed
33:22for
33:23the
33:23Israeli
33:24government
33:24we
33:25will
33:25continue
33:26as we
33:26did
33:27in the
33:27big rally
33:29in Rome
33:30in June
33:30with 300,000
33:32people
33:32we will
33:33continue
33:33to ask
33:34sanctions
33:35for the
33:36crimes
33:37in Gaza
33:37and in the
33:38West Bank
33:39by the
33:39government
33:40of Netanyahu
33:40and his
33:41ministers
33:41who are
33:42openly
33:43declaring
33:44the
33:44objective
33:44of
33:45cancelling
33:46Gaza
33:46Gaza
33:49belongs
33:50to the
33:50Palestinian
33:51and
33:52will
33:52never
33:52be
33:53a
33:54resort
33:54for
33:55rich
33:55people
33:56like
33:57in the
33:57terrible
33:59videos
34:00in the
34:01social
34:01media
34:01of
34:01Donald
34:02Trump
34:02that's
34:03why
34:03we
34:04will
34:04insist
34:04for
34:05the
34:05full
34:05recognition
34:06of
34:07a
34:07state
34:07for
34:07Palestinians
34:08because
34:09they
34:10have
34:10the
34:11same
34:11right
34:12as
34:12Israelis
34:13to
34:14exist
34:15and
34:15to
34:15live
34:16in
34:16freedom
34:17and
34:18security
34:18in
34:19their
34:19own
34:20states
34:21jacinda
34:32your
34:35leadership
34:36Jacinda
34:46Your leadership
34:50Gives us hope
34:51And enthusiasm
34:53And your time as Prime Minister
34:56Inspired lots of women
34:58And girls beyond any border
35:00Including myself
35:02But we are in times
35:04Where the international network
35:07Of nationalists
35:08Seem to be winning
35:10In many countries
35:11With the return of wars
35:14And the criminal war
35:16Also in Ukraine by Russia
35:18And what is happening in Gaza
35:20In the other wars in Sudan
35:22And the attack to multilateralism
35:25By the extreme right
35:27And the attack
35:28To fundamental rights
35:30Of people and communities
35:32What is the way forward
35:34For us progressives
35:36To push another vision
35:38For the future
35:39And to beat them
35:40Two really important things
35:43I think that as progressives
35:45We need to remember
35:46The first is
35:48I hear this all the time
35:50You know
35:50The populist movements
35:52They're winning
35:52You know
35:53The far right
35:53They're winning
35:54What is winning?
35:56What is winning?
35:57Because yes
35:58You might hold office
35:59You might increase
36:01The number of seats
36:01That you hold
36:02But if along the way
36:04An increasing number of people
36:07Become disenfranchised
36:08Stop showing up to vote
36:11Stop believing in your institutions
36:14Their grievances grow
36:16And their belief in acts of violence
36:19As a way to make change
36:20Increase
36:21Then where does that leave
36:23Our societies fractured?
36:25It leaves our democracies unstable
36:28No one wins
36:30As a result
36:31Of that kind of politics
36:33So what is winning?
36:35It has to be more than just taking power
36:38It has to be the way that we treat
36:40Support
36:40And uphold our democratic institutions
36:43So we have a job to do
36:45Not only to model what is important
36:48About the way we do politics
36:50But also what we do when we have power
36:52We have to answer the call
36:54That people are leaving with us
36:56To respond to them
36:57Kati is right
36:59Ali is right
37:00That sense of grievance
37:02And disenfranchisement
37:03Is because the distance
37:04Between what politicians are doing
37:06And what the public are asking for
37:09Is growing
37:09People may say that
37:12What impact does a war
37:14In the Middle East
37:15Have on your daily lives?
37:16Well if people look
37:17That that war is not ending
37:19Then they believe that
37:21Humanity and politics is gone
37:23And when they believe
37:25Humanity and politics is gone
37:27They stop voting
37:29They stop believing in democracy
37:31And they become indifferent
37:33And we have seen
37:35What a world
37:36Where people are indifferent
37:38To humanity looks like
37:40So as progressives
37:42I think we need to remember
37:43What is winning?
37:46And who are we here to serve
37:48When we are in office?
37:49We must remind people
37:51That there is still
37:52Humanity and politics
37:53A good place to start
37:55Is ending the war in Gaza
37:57The next place we go to
38:00Must be improving
38:01People's daily lives
38:03Remind people why we are here
38:05Reading your book
38:21And I suggest to all of you
38:23To do it
38:24But I don't want to spoiler anything
38:26But there is one moment
38:29In which you
38:30Spoiler alert
38:32I became prime minister
38:33And then I quit
38:35But when you become prime minister
38:38You are in the car
38:40Going to the
38:41Swearing in I think
38:43And you talk to a journalist
38:46And he asks you
38:47What do you want to do?
38:50And you have all the set of policies
38:52In mind of what you have been working
38:55For years
38:56To do on social issues
38:57On child poverty
38:58On climate
38:59But you give a different answer
39:01And you say
39:03Bringing back kindness
39:05So my question would be
39:07Why should bringing back kindness
39:11Be a consistent part
39:13Of our political program
39:14While facing and competing
39:18With these shouting opponents
39:22In other words
39:23Because it's the same question
39:25We hear in Italy sometimes
39:26What would you answer
39:28To those who say
39:29That in order to win
39:31We should shout like them?
39:34Well just because
39:36People are used to seeing that
39:38Does not mean
39:39It's the kind of system
39:41That we have to perpetuate
39:42We don't have to keep doing it
39:44I remember when I came into parliament
39:46I thought
39:47Well I'm a bit thin skinned
39:49I'm a bit sensitive
39:50I don't cope very well
39:54With the shouting
39:55And the heckling
39:56I'm just not going to be
39:58A very good politician
39:59And so
40:01I went in believing
40:03That I would never be a leader
40:05Nor did I believe
40:07That I had the right skills
40:09To be a leader
40:09Because of the kind
40:11Of leadership
40:12I had seen before
40:14That's what people will believe
40:16A politician is
40:18Until someone shows them
40:20That it's not
40:22Until someone like you
40:24Or someone like you
40:26Is in a leadership position
40:28And shows people
40:29That you can be a politician
40:31And you can value kindness
40:32So to both of you
40:34I want to thank you
40:36For role modelling that
40:37I want to thank you
40:38For showing people
40:39That you can do politics differently
40:40Despite years
40:42Of doing it one way
40:44And for building a movement
40:45You don't know
40:47How many people out there
40:48Will look at you
40:49And come into politics
40:50Believing they can do it differently
40:51Because of what
40:52You're role modelling
40:53So as we would say
40:54In New Zealand
40:55Kia kaha
40:57Kia kaha
40:58Means keep going
41:00Stay strong
41:01Keep doing what you're doing
41:03And you'll be making
41:05A huge difference
41:05To a huge number of people
41:07We had a good teacher then
41:13Kati
41:17How important it is
41:20To unite
41:21Our voices
41:22And forces
41:23Across the borders
41:25As progressives
41:27Because they're doing it
41:29And they're effective
41:30The rhetoric of hatred
41:32Of Trump
41:33Netanyahu
41:34Orban
41:35Meloni
41:36Salvini
41:37Is strengthening each other
41:39With the same enemies
41:41They need enemies
41:42Every day
41:43So that they don't
41:45Have to answer
41:46To the fact
41:47That they're not
41:48Delivering
41:49For the daily
41:50Problems
41:51Of our citizens
41:53Think about minimum wage
41:55Think about
41:55Healthcare
41:56For example
41:57But how important
41:59It is
41:59For us
42:00To learn
42:01To stick together
42:02And to show
42:03That we share
42:04The same vision
42:04I remember
42:06When we first met
42:07We went together
42:08To Lampedusa
42:09To show
42:10That another
42:12Europe
42:12Is possible
42:14Also in terms of
42:15Welcoming refugees
42:16And we were coming
42:18From different countries
42:19We were speaking
42:21Different languages
42:22Coming from
42:23Different backgrounds
42:24But we were sticking
42:25Together
42:25And that was powerful
42:26As we were together
42:28In fields
42:28As we were together
42:30In Utrecht
42:30And as we will be
42:32Again
42:33At the
42:34Congress
42:34Of the party
42:35Of the European Socialists
42:37That will take place
42:38In Amsterdam
42:39In October
42:40Before the election
42:42So
42:43How do you
42:44How important
42:45It is for you
42:45To show
42:46That we share
42:47The same vision
42:48In order to
42:49Strengthen each other
42:50Well first of all
42:52You're all welcome
42:52To come on the
42:5319th of October
42:55To the
42:56PES Congress
42:57In Amsterdam
42:58So happy to see you there
42:59It will be less sunny though
43:00I think
43:02When it comes
43:03You know
43:03Ellie
43:04I don't know how it was
43:05When you joined the party
43:07Or when you joined the party
43:08For me
43:09One of the key issues
43:11As a person
43:12Who was born
43:14Behind the Iron Curtain
43:16I was
43:16In 1979
43:18I was born in Hungary
43:20My father had fled Hungary
43:23In communist times
43:25Because he didn't have
43:27Any opportunities
43:28To study there
43:30He didn't have any opportunities
43:31To develop there
43:32So he was 16
43:34When he fled
43:36Through Austria
43:37To the Netherlands
43:38So for me
43:40It was always key
43:41That democracy
43:43Is not something
43:44To be great
43:45Taken for granted
43:46And that you need
43:48And that you need
43:48International solidarity
43:51In order to
43:52Beat also
43:53Repressive regimes
43:55And this is where
43:57For me
43:58When talking
43:59Like I told you
44:00We have 15 parties
44:01In Holland
44:02Six of them
44:03Are on the left
44:04Or seven of them
44:04Are on the left
44:05But there's only one party
44:07One party
44:09Which from the
44:10From the moment
44:12That we started
44:13The labour movement
44:15Has always been
44:17An international movement
44:18And that's the reason
44:20Why I joined
44:22The Dutch Labour Party
44:23And not one of the other parties
44:25Because we need
44:26International solidarity
44:28Whether it's
44:29For workers' rights
44:30The tradition
44:31Of the movement
44:32Is from workers' rights
44:34Whether we look
44:34At today's challenges
44:35When it comes
44:37To climate change
44:38When it comes
44:39To standing up
44:40Against bullies
44:42Like Donald Trump
44:43And showing
44:44That a united Europe
44:46A progressive Europe
44:48Is much stronger
44:51And can rely
44:52Much more
44:52On its own confidence
44:54More than we are doing now
44:56To be honest
44:57So I'm worried
44:59About today's developments
45:01When it comes to Europe
45:02And like Ellie
45:04Always keeps saying
45:05Why do we know
45:06All those names
45:08Of all the leaders
45:09She just mentioned
45:10And we know
45:11Much less names
45:13Of the progressive leaders
45:15That are making
45:16A daily
45:17You know
45:19Daily changes
45:19In people's lives
45:21So that's why
45:21I'm very grateful
45:22For Jacinda also
45:24For having started
45:25And bringing together
45:26Leaders from European countries
45:29Working together
45:31Exchanging
45:32That's why I'm very grateful
45:33That Ellie
45:34Although I know
45:35She's very busy in Italy
45:36Also made time
45:38To come to the Netherlands
45:39And to speak also
45:40At the Dutch Congress
45:41Where she now
45:42Has a fan club
45:43She's not only yours now
45:45She also now
45:46Has a fan club
45:47In the Netherlands
45:48And this is I think
45:50What makes our movement strong
45:51Is that we are
45:53Fighting together
45:54We usually say
46:00Cathy in the meeting
46:01Of the party
46:03Of European socialists
46:04That we must not
46:05Leave internationalism
46:07To the nationalists
46:09Because we have
46:10Much more in common
46:11For example
46:12The fight
46:12That we're doing now
46:13Across all Europe
46:14With our members
46:15Of the European parliament
46:17On housing
46:18Because housing
46:20Is a fundamental
46:21Right of people
46:22And the left
46:23Has forgotten it
46:24For many years
46:25At least in this country
46:26Now we have put it
46:28Back
46:28Back at the center
46:30Of our political agenda
46:31And people can feel
46:33Can reconnect
46:33So coming to a conclusion
46:36Because unfortunately
46:37Our time
46:38Is running
46:39Out
46:40Jacinda
46:42Politics can also be
46:45A nasty place
46:46Especially for women
46:47We all know
46:48Why that
46:51Why that
46:53And how
46:54Would you share
46:55Your experience
46:56With young activists
46:58Female and feminist activists
47:00Who are trying
47:02To make their way
47:03Into our
47:04Political organization
47:05That too often
47:07Are not welcoming
47:09For young people
47:11And especially
47:11For young girls
47:13And women
47:14So what would you
47:16Share
47:16Of your experience
47:17For them
47:19That are trying
47:20In a way
47:21To follow a path
47:23I'm very lucky
47:26That in New Zealand
47:27I was the third
47:29Female prime minister
47:31And that
47:32When I left office
47:33We reached the milestone
47:34That 50%
47:35Of our members
47:36Of parliament
47:37Were women
47:38But just because
47:40We had the numbers
47:41Did not mean
47:41The experience
47:43Was improving
47:44In fact
47:45I think it is
47:46Getting harder
47:47Globally
47:48For women
47:50In politics
47:50And there are
47:51A lot
47:52Of reasons
47:53For that
47:54There's just
47:56Really one thing
47:57Though amongst
47:58Those many
47:59Issues
48:00That I would
48:01Want to highlight
48:02My day-to-day
48:04My experience
48:05In politics
48:06Was still
48:07A joyful one
48:08Yes
48:10There were
48:10Extra experiences
48:11That I had
48:12That others
48:13May not have
48:13Because I was
48:14A woman in politics
48:15Yes that is true
48:16Undeniably
48:17But I would hate
48:18For anyone out there
48:19Listening
48:20To think that
48:21That meant
48:21That they should
48:22Not put themselves
48:23Forward
48:23If my daughter
48:25Came to me tomorrow
48:25And asked me
48:26If she tells me
48:27That she wants
48:28To go into politics
48:29I would say
48:31Go for it
48:32And I'll be
48:32Right by your side
48:33Because there is
48:35No job
48:35In the world
48:36That is as privileged
48:37And as humbling
48:38As being able to be
48:40A political representative
48:41And change the issues
48:43That you see
48:43In day-to-day lives
48:44On behalf of others
48:45And so yes
48:47We have problems
48:48To fix
48:48We have problems
48:51To fix
48:52Do not let that
48:57Stop you
48:57From going into politics
48:59In fact
49:00Run
49:01We need more of you
49:04And just know
49:06That when you do
49:07Choose to run
49:07That there will be
49:08Other women there
49:09Beside you
49:10To support you
49:11In ways that perhaps
49:12We didn't have
49:13In the past
49:14Thank you
49:19Jacinda
49:19Thank you
49:20Cathy
49:21Thank you
49:22For being here
49:23It was a beautiful
49:24Gift for us
49:25Let me just
49:27Finish
49:27In Italian
49:30If you allow me
49:31Grazie a tutte
49:32Grazie a tutti
49:33Per la vostra
49:34Partecipazione
49:35È stato per me
49:35Un regalo bellissimo
49:37Avere qui Jacinda
49:39Avere qui Cathy
49:40Due donne
49:42Il cui impegno
49:42Continua a ispirare
49:44Come me
49:44E tante
49:45Tanti altri
49:46Ogni giorno
49:46Tra i progressisti
49:47Europei
49:49Io vi ringrazio
49:50Io vi ringrazio anche per
49:50L'impegno unitario
49:52Che stiamo mettendo
49:53In tutta Italia
49:55Vi ringrazio perché
49:56Questa testardaggine unitaria
49:59Ha permesso
49:59Lo dicevo prima
50:00Di chiudere la stessa
50:02Alleanza progressista
50:03In tutte e sette
50:04Le regioni
50:05Che sono al voto
50:06Siamo al fianco
50:07Siamo al fianco
50:07Siamo al fianco
50:08Siamo al fianco
50:09Del partito democratico
50:11Ci siamo
50:12Con le nostre priorità
50:13Che sono chiare
50:14La difesa
50:16Della sanità pubblica
50:17Universalistica
50:18Dai tagli
50:19E dalla privatizzazione
50:21Di questa destra
50:22Che qui in Lombardia
50:23Conoscete molto bene
50:24Non una sanità
50:27Per ricchi
50:28Non una sanità
50:29A misura del portafoglio
50:30Ma una sanità
50:31Universalistica
50:33Come quella
50:33Di Tina Anselmi
50:35Una sanità
50:36Che curi
50:37Chi da solo
50:38Non ce la fa
50:38La difesa
50:40Della scuola pubblica
50:42Dai tagli
50:42Di 6.000 insegnanti
50:44La difesa
50:45Della scuola pubblica
50:47Che vuol dire
50:47Anche moltiplicare
50:49Gli asili nido
50:49In tutto il territorio nazionale
50:51Il lavoro dignitoso
50:53A partire dalla battaglia
50:54Che continuerà
50:55Contro la precarietà
50:56E per un salario minimo
50:58Perché sotto i 9 euro
50:59Allora
51:00Non è lavoro
51:01È sfruttamento
51:02Non deve essere legale
51:03E accanto al lavoro
51:05Le politiche industriali
51:07Che Giorgia Meloni
51:08Ha completamente dimenticato
51:10Tutti gli imprenditori
51:12Che incontriamo
51:13Qui al nord
51:13Come al sud
51:14Ieri in Calabria
51:16Accanto a Pasquale Tridico
51:17Come prima grande questione
51:19Ci pongono il costo
51:20Dell'energia
51:20Abbiamo le bollette
51:22Più care d'Europa
51:23Non lo dobbiamo accettare
51:25Possiamo fare come la Spagna
51:26Possiamo fare come il Portogallo
51:28Possiamo separare
51:30Il costo dell'energia
51:31Da quello del gas
51:32Che è la fonte più cara
51:34E dare respiro
51:35Alle famiglie italiane
51:37E alle imprese italiane
51:38Per il rilancio
51:39Della nostra economia
51:40Se Giorgia Meloni
51:42In tre anni
51:42Non l'ha fatto
51:43È perché forse
51:44Non ha il coraggio
51:45Di intaccare
51:46Gli extra profitti
51:47Maturati
51:48Da un pugno
51:49Di grandi società energetiche
51:50A scapito
51:51Di tutte le altre imprese
51:52E le altre famiglie italiane
51:54Andiamo avanti
51:55Andiamo avanti
51:55Lavoro
51:56Politiche industriali
51:57Diritto alla salute
51:58Diritto alla scuola
51:59E diritti
52:01Diritti sociali e civili
52:03Che per noi sono inscindibili
52:05Sono inscindibili
52:06Come il diritto alla casa
52:07Sono inscindibili
52:08Come il diritto
52:09A supportare
52:10Per davvero
52:11Le famiglie
52:12Non con la retorica
52:13Vuota
52:13Di chi poi taglia
52:14I fondi
52:15Per i nidi
52:15Non protegge
52:16L'assegno unico
52:17Per cui tanto ci siamo battuti
52:19Diritto di tutte le famiglie
52:21Perché loro non fanno
52:22Che parlare
52:23Di vuota retorica
52:24Sulla famiglia
52:24Come se fosse
52:25Una sola
52:26Tradizionale
52:27Di cui tanto parlano
52:28Ma che poi nessuno di loro ha
52:30Suggerirei un po' di cautela
52:35Le famiglie sono tante
52:37Milano lo sa
52:38Sono plurali
52:39E vanno tutte difese
52:40Nel contributo
52:41Che portano alle nostre comunità
52:42Nessuna discriminata
52:44E soprattutto
52:45Non si possono discriminare
52:46I loro figli
52:48E le loro figlie
52:49Per cui continueremo
52:50A batterci accanto
52:51Ai nostri sindaci
52:52Amministratori
52:53Che ringrazio
52:53Per il coraggio
52:54Anche accanto
52:55Alle figlie e figli
52:56Delle coppie omogenitoriali
52:58Come difenderemo
52:59Tutte
53:00Le altre famiglie italiane
53:02Andiamo avanti così
53:03Con valori
53:04Che guardano al futuro
53:05Radicati nel passato
53:06E nella nostra
53:07Meravigliosa costituzione
53:08Che come tutte e tutti noi
53:09È orgogliosamente
53:11Antifascista
53:12Grazie a tutte
53:14Grazie a tutti
53:15Evviva Jacinda Ardner
53:16Evviva Catipiri
53:17Evviva le feste dell'unità
53:19Evviva il Partito Democratico
53:21Forza Milano
53:22Evviva l'Italia antifascista
53:24Grazie
53:46Grazie a tutti
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