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00:00It really doesn't have to end like this. I can still help you if you like me.
00:19You're insane! John!
00:20If you can't be mine, I'm sorry. It can't be anyone's.
00:23John? John?
00:26Hey, you're okay. You're safe.
00:30Aaron? Where's Aaron?
00:34He's alive. He's in a coma. They've arrested Robert.
00:49You have to get me out of here. I need to see Aaron.
00:51We need to see what evidence they've got against you, so just stick to the facts and we'll go from there.
00:57Mr. Sugden.
01:01Morning.
01:03Morning.
01:05Let's begin, shall we?
01:11Interview with Robert Sugden commencing at ten past ten.
01:17Please, can you just tell me how Aaron is?
01:21There's no change. He's still in a coma.
01:25He's still in a coma.
01:29Let's start from the beginning, shall we?
01:33It all happened so fast.
01:35John pulling him over the gorge. I couldn't do anything to stop it.
01:39Can you talk me through how you ended up at the gorge?
01:45John told Paddy Dingle that he was struggling.
01:51Paddy told me that he was worried John might harm himself.
01:55I was scared. I didn't know what he'd do to Aaron.
01:58What was it that Paddy was so worried about?
02:02Why did you fear for Aaron?
02:07John had found out about me and Aaron.
02:10That we'd slept together.
02:12So, you can imagine how he felt about that.
02:17So, what happened when you arrived?
02:20John saw me at the cottage and he lost it.
02:22He attacked me. He knocked me out.
02:24He knocked you unconscious?
02:26Yes.
02:27Why didn't you mention this before?
02:29When you were at the hospital?
02:30Because I was more worried about Aaron.
02:32So, you didn't get treated for a head injury?
02:34No.
02:36I know I should have been.
02:38So, we've only got your word that this actually happened.
02:41It did.
02:43And when I came round, John was gone.
02:46I found them at the gorge and Aaron was trying to calm him down,
02:49but John had got it into his head that we'd tricked him.
02:52That's when he called you lot and said that I was trying to kill them both.
02:56Yes, I've heard the call.
02:58It's pretty compelling.
02:59Wouldn't you say?
03:04Why would your brother want to frame you for murder?
03:06He hates me.
03:08He wants to see me sent down for something I didn't do.
03:10He could have died.
03:12It's pretty extreme just to set you up.
03:14Well, you couldn't handle the fact that I slept with Aaron.
03:17And...
03:19And not just that.
03:22He knows I'm onto him about Nate.
03:25Nate Robinson?
03:26Yeah.
03:28Look, that case is closed.
03:30My colleague said you'd brought it up.
03:31That you claimed Mr. Michael's brother was his alibi.
03:34When that just wasn't true.
03:36You really think that Nate was killed by some random stranger?
03:39Even Tracey, Nate's wife, doesn't believe it.
03:41It was John.
03:44And now, he might have killed Mac.
03:47You should be out looking for him.
03:50Sorry, who's Mac?
03:51Mackenzie Boyd.
03:53Has he been reported missing?
03:55No, people think he's just gone off, but...
03:58I think John might have killed him.
04:00I know it sounds mad, but he's definitely done something to him.
04:02He's definitely hurt him.
04:04Is there any evidence to support this theory of yours?
04:07Aaron tried to get John to admit what he'd done to Mac, but he lost it and that's what he dragged him off the gorge.
04:13You need...
04:15You need to keep John away from Aaron. He's dangerous.
04:20John Sugden is an army veteran.
04:24A paramedic.
04:26And a highly respected member of the community.
04:28With no prior convictions.
04:30Whereas you spent six years in prison for murder.
04:33So you'll forgive me if I'm struggling to believe your version of events.
04:42Is it fair to say that you were jealous?
04:44Your ex-husband had moved on? Married your brother, of all people?
04:48No, it wasn't like that. I wanted Aaron to be happy no matter who it was with.
04:52I don't know how many times I have to say this. John is dangerous.
04:56So you thought you'd save the day, is that it?
04:57No, it's not about me. None of this is about me. It's about him. About John. He's out there killing people. You're not doing anything about it. You let him get away with it.
05:05Try to stay calm.
05:06Now how can I stay calm when he's not even listening to me? And Mac's probably lying somewhere dead and you're not even looking for him.
05:12Mr Sugden.
05:13Aaron's gonna confirm all of this when he wakes up.
05:20If John doesn't pull the plug on him.
05:22And you're just gonna let him because you're too stupid to do anything about it.
05:26To know what's right in front of you.
05:30I see exactly what's in front of me.
05:33An angry man who let his jealous rage get the better of him.
05:38And put two men in hospital.
05:40He wasn't me.
05:41What? What is it?
05:53Interview suspended at 10.40.
05:58Is it Aaron? Is it Aaron? Is he alright?
06:01You make sure he gets back to his cell.
06:03No, please don't do this. Please don't do this.
06:05Lydia made you nice.
06:15Ham.
06:17Thought you might be hungry.
06:19I can't eat.
06:21Go have some at it.
06:24I need to be in there with Aaron.
06:27The doctors are in with him.
06:28No, I shouldn't leave him because what if something happens and I'm not there?
06:32Chas.
06:34Oh God.
06:36Hey, it's okay. It's okay, I'm here.
06:37I need to see Aaron.
06:45The doctor said you need to rest.
06:47How can I?
06:49He's being well looked after.
06:51I have to see him.
06:53You can't get out of bed, John.
06:55What if he opens his eyes and I'm not there? He needs me, Vic.
06:58Well, you're no good to him if you don't look after yourself.
07:02It's only a few broken ribs.
07:05And internal bleeding.
07:07Well, you're lucky.
07:09Aaron's in a lot worse state.
07:13How bad is he?
07:16You don't wanna know.
07:19Tell me.
07:21He had...
07:23He had a bleed on the brain.
07:25So they had to operate and that's why he's in a coma.
07:29He had a dislocated shoulder.
07:31Fractured collar bone and ribs.
07:34Apart from that, it's...
07:36Cuts and bruises.
07:38I'm just glad to still have you.
07:44Mr Sugden.
07:46I'm glad you're awake.
07:48I was hoping to ask you a few questions whenever you feel a bit stronger.
07:52I can come back later, if you prefer.
07:54No.
07:57I wanna get this over with him.
07:59Okay.
08:02I've spoken to Robert Sugden.
08:05And he's made some serious allegations.
08:08I need to fully understand what happened up at that gorge.
08:12So...
08:13What happened up at the gorge?
08:14It's all a bit of a blur.
08:16Robert came out of nowhere and...
08:17I knew he wanted me dead.
08:18He was shouting all this stuff about Aaron not wanting me.
08:20That is when I phoned you lot because I didn't know what else to do.
08:21There were two of you.
08:22One of him.
08:23One of him.
08:24How did he manage to overpower you?
08:25How did he manage to overpower both of you?
08:26How did he manage to overpower both of you?
08:27How did he manage to overpower both of you?
08:28Well, he flew at me.
08:29And I froze.
08:31And I froze.
08:32And I froze.
08:33And I froze.
08:34I was the one who was killed.
08:35And the other one.
08:36And the other two.
08:37And he's the one who was killed.
08:38And I got out of nowhere.
08:39And he was the one who got out of nowhere.
08:40And I knew him.
08:41And I was the one who got out of nowhere.
08:42And I knew him.
08:43And he wanted me dead.
08:44He was shouting all this stuff about Aaron not wanting me.
08:45And I...
08:46And that is when I phoned you lot because I didn't know what else to do.
08:47There were two of you.
08:48One of him.
08:50How did he manage to overpower both of you?
08:54He flew at me. And I froze.
08:58Aaron... Aaron stepped in to save me.
09:03And that is when we both ended up falling over the edge.
09:08Aaron... was trying to protect me.
09:13Mr Sogdon claims that you jumped.
09:19And took Mr Dingle with you.
09:23Oh my god, why...
09:26Why would he say that?
09:28Trying to save his own skin probably.
09:30Nobody believes that.
09:38I remember...
09:42Coming round at the bottom of the gorge and...
09:46And seeing Aaron just...
09:48Just lying there.
09:52I wanted to help him.
09:54So badly. But Robert...
10:00This...
10:01This is how I got this.
10:03All I wanted to do was get to Aaron.
10:07But Robert started attacking me, wouldn't let me near him.
10:12Your brother was the one who called the emergency services. Yeah?
10:17Why do that? And then stop you from helping Mr Dingle?
10:22Maybe it's like Vic said.
10:26He was trying to save his own skin.
10:31Or maybe in that split second he felt guilty.
10:35I don't know. I just...
10:38I didn't realise how much he has been struggling.
10:41I've tried to help him.
10:44So many times but he just gets angry.
10:47He lashes out.
10:48Lashes out in what way?
10:56This...
10:57Is not the first time he's tried to kill me.
11:01Now I didn't want to say anything.
11:02I've been trying to protect him but...
11:05I think there's something you should see.
11:09You're going back in?
11:11Yeah, the doctor's still in there doing tests.
11:14Checking the pressure in his brain.
11:18I wanted to stay but they wouldn't let me.
11:21Oh, what's taking so long?
11:24I don't know.
11:25What if there's something they're not telling me?
11:27They just need to try and stay calm.
11:29I can't.
11:30Doctors know what they're doing.
11:32Look, why don't you go home,
11:33get some rest, have a shower,
11:34we can keep an eye on Aaron?
11:35No, you're dead on your feet.
11:37Why do you keep on the plane?
11:38I can't leave.
11:40Not yet.
11:42I just...
11:44I just keep thinking about it.
11:45I mean, how he ended up here.
11:47It doesn't make any sense.
11:49Well, you can ask him when he's woken up.
11:53I can't lose my son.
11:55This family's lost enough.
11:56Aaron is still here and so is John.
12:00Okay, it's right.
12:02I'm gonna pull through.
12:03Just...
12:04Just don't give up hope.
12:15Hiya.
12:16Are you taking visitors?
12:18I'm quite tired.
12:19Yeah, I'm not surprised.
12:20I'm lucky to be alive.
12:21No.
12:22Not feeling very lucky.
12:24Not while Aaron's still in a coma.
12:28Erm...
12:30I owe you a massive apology.
12:33You've lost me, Paddy.
12:37I'm the reason...
12:39...why Robert turned up.
12:41I put you and Aaron in danger.
12:42You could have died because...
12:45Well...
12:46I betrayed your trust.
12:47What are you talking about?
12:49The helpline you've been messaging.
12:52It was me you were talking to.
12:54I've not been messaging anyone.
12:55Oh no, it's alright.
12:56There's no need to be embarrassed.
12:58We all struggle.
12:59We've all...
13:00...not known where to turn, you know.
13:03I realised it was you.
13:05And the way you were talking, I really thought you were going to hurt yourself, so...
13:09I went to tell Victoria.
13:11But I couldn't find her, so...
13:13Erm...
13:15I told Robert.
13:17Oh my God.
13:19You're supposed to be confidential.
13:21Who else have you been talking to?
13:22No one, honestly.
13:24I...I...I...I...
13:26I really couldn't feel any worse.
13:28I had no idea what Robert was going to do.
13:29I'm sorry.
13:30I'm so sorry.
13:32No.
13:34You're right.
13:38It was me.
13:41I contacted the helpline because...
13:43...I was struggling.
13:45But I'd never have hurt myself.
13:48I think...
13:49...you read too much into it because of what happened to you.
13:54It's okay, Paddy.
13:57I'm not blaming you.
13:59You are not the reason Aaron's in a coma.
14:01That is all Robert.
14:05And he's not going to get away with it.
14:08I've been to interview John Sugden, now that he's awake.
14:12What about Aaron?
14:13Have you got someone guarding him?
14:15Your brother presents a very different account of what happened up at the Gorge.
14:19Whatever he says, he's lying.
14:20He's lying.
14:21He's lying?
14:25Let me show you something.
14:26No.
14:28No?
14:32No.
14:34No.
14:36No.
14:38No.
14:40No.
14:41so is he also lying about you attacking him with a wrench an unprovoked attack that put him in
14:51hospital mr. Sugden reluctantly shared this with me because he was trying to protect you
14:58that's why he didn't report it that isn't what he looks like whatever he says you can't listen to
15:05in well we'll see what the CPS have to say only you can't believe him he's a psychopath you have
15:16no idea maybe we should take a break so I can speak to my client in private no no no I need
15:20to explain what John's like the footage clearly shows you attacking him yeah all right I hit him
15:25but it wasn't for no reason he was winding me up threatening to get me banged up again this attack
15:31happened around the time you were trying to accuse John of Nate Robinson's murder your anger boiled
15:37over because things didn't go your way just like it did at the gorge no it wasn't like that he's
15:42twisting everything yeah all right I did that but it was winding me up I didn't push them over the
15:49gorge I would never hurt Aaron John has refuted all the claims you've made about him well he's not
15:53just going to confess is he a doctor has also confirmed that some of his injuries appear to
15:58have been sustained from a physical altercation not a fall yeah from when he attacked me at the
16:03cottage and your brother states that his injuries are a result of a fight between you and him at the
16:09bottom of the gorge he was trying to help Mr. Dingle and you attacked him preventing him from doing so
16:14what no he's lying Mr. Sugden all of this evidence including your previous attack on John plus his phone
16:22call fearing for his life prove that you had motive and opportunity I didn't do it I didn't do it
16:28interview terminated at 3 10
16:38I've been to see John and he's doing all right
16:52you don't have to worry about him just concentrate on getting yourself better
16:59our boy
17:04we haven't been enough of a dad to him lately
17:09not a dad
17:10it's true
17:12I've let him down
17:14I'm sorry
17:16should have realised what Robert was up to
17:21just wouldn't leave him alone
17:23you didn't know what was going on none of us did
17:27I went to the cottage because of me
17:30got it wrong
17:34got everything wrong
17:36I thought
17:39it doesn't matter what I thought
17:42stop it
17:44it's not even think about Robert
17:46and what's important
17:48I'm going to be a better dad for you when you get out of here
17:53I promise
17:54I'm here for your son
17:59I always will be
18:02you didn't do anything wrong giving the police that footage
18:07then why do I feel so guilty
18:09I just wanted a brother
18:11I hate lying here
18:16not knowing what's happening to Aaron
18:17don't let us know if there's any change
18:19do you want me to pick up some stuff for you
18:22I can go to the cottage
18:23get you some bits if you want
18:24no
18:25you're going to need clothes
18:27will you just
18:28please stop fussing
18:30I'm sorry
18:31hey
18:34so sorry I've not been in sooner
18:39I'm just so glad you're okay
18:43how's Aaron
18:44er
18:46yeah
18:47the doctors are keeping him in the coma
18:49they want to tell me when they're going to wake him up
18:52I need to see him
18:53yeah of course you do love
18:54he'd want you there
18:55listen
18:57I need to know
19:00what happened
19:01how you both ended up like this
19:05I just can't wrap my head around it
19:11how did my son end up at the bottom of a gorge
19:15I remember Robert shouting
19:19screaming
19:22telling me Aaron
19:24didn't really love me
19:27he had this fantasy that they were getting back together
19:31it was insane
19:33Aaron told him it was
19:36never going to happen
19:38and that's when he lost it
19:42I rang the police because we were so scared
19:46I've never seen him
19:50like that
19:51he just
19:51just couldn't handle the rejection
19:53Robert ran at me
19:56and Aaron tried to protect me
19:58and got in the way
20:00and
20:00that's how we both went over
20:05I'm so sorry
20:07hey
20:07don't do that
20:08none of this is down to you
20:10what if he doesn't wake up
20:14you're quiet
20:22it's been a long day
20:24it must be hard to accept what Robert's capable of
20:28I've always known he had it in him
20:29he's jealous of you just like he was with Andy
20:32and he wanted everything that he had
20:34he's never going to change
20:35I almost feel sorry for him
20:37don't bother
20:38he doesn't deserve it
20:39are you sure you're up to this?
20:43yeah
20:46thank you
20:52John I'm so sorry
21:07what for?
21:10for everything
21:11for trying to force you and Robert together
21:14for thinking that
21:15we could be one big happy family
21:17I thought
21:19I could help him
21:20but all I did was make things worse for you and Aaron
21:22do not beat yourself up
21:24love how you always see the good in everyone
21:27you weren't to know he'd make our lives hell
21:29he's done it before
21:31hey
21:31let's not
21:32talk about him in front of Aaron
21:35what do you think he can hear us?
21:39hopefully he knows I'm here
21:43I hate seeing him like this
21:46Aaron's tough
21:48he'll wake up soon
21:50and he'll back you up
21:51and then this whole nightmare will be over
21:52and it can just be you and him
21:55I'll give you a minute
21:58hello
22:17husband
22:18Vic
22:27Vic
22:27thank god
22:28are you at the hospital?
22:32how's Aaron?
22:33he's still in a coma thanks to you
22:35it wasn't me
22:37it was John
22:38you couldn't just leave them alone could you?
22:40you have done everything
22:42to try and split them up
22:43but this
22:44this was the worst
22:45and it didn't work
22:47John's with Aaron now
22:49they are together
22:50where they belong
22:51alone?
22:54Vic
22:54Vic
22:55go and check on them
22:55Aaron's not safe
22:56stop
22:57just stop
22:58I have given you
22:59chance after chance
23:01and all you have done
23:02is lie to me
23:03I'm done with you Robert
23:04don't call me again
23:06you can't change your
23:21where's the song down here?
23:27you need to come with me
23:28please
23:28I've told you everything I know
23:30just
23:30you have to let me go
23:31the CPS have reviewed
23:33all the evidence
23:34including the dash cam
23:36footage
23:36no you've got it all wrong
23:39based on the evidence
23:41and in conjunction
23:42with the statement
23:43that we've taken
23:44they've agreed to charge you
23:46with the attempted murder
23:47of John Sugden
23:48and Aaron Dingle
23:50and if Mr. Dingle dies
23:53the charge will be over
23:56ok come on
24:04let's go
24:05how can this be happening
24:19again
24:19I'm not a bad person
24:22this is not
24:23my fault
24:24I loved you
24:28I loved you
24:28you know
24:29so much
24:32I was even willing
24:35to forgive you
24:36all you had to do
24:39all you had to do
24:51is forget about Mac
24:53is forget about Mac
24:53we could have started again
24:55a new life
24:57just us
24:58but not now
25:00not anymore
25:00you ruined
25:01everything
25:02and now
25:04and now
25:04we don't get our happy
25:06ever after
25:06I'm sorry Aaron
25:11I'm so sorry
25:15I still love you
25:21in spite of everything
25:25but I think it's for the best
25:32if you never wake up
25:33you know
25:35I did
25:35I threw the best
25:37and today
25:37it should be
25:38and now
25:38I think it's for the best
25:41for the best
25:41So
25:43I don't like it
25:43or
25:44I like it
25:44but I
25:45all
25:46I love this
25:47thatnar is
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