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The flowers are blooming and noses are running as springtime begins. Immunity expert Dr Fernando Gordillo Altamirano discusses the causes behind hayfever and how we can protect ourselves from being triggered.

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00:00My field of research is infectious diseases, so I'm a big fan of the immune system because
00:08it defends us against those infections.
00:11However, the immune system can also act a little bit crappy sometimes, and that's exactly
00:17what happens in allergies.
00:19So an allergy is basically when the immune system sees something that is completely harmless
00:25and decides that it's not harmless and decides to mount a massive, exaggerated response against
00:32it.
00:33In the case of hay fever, it's a pollen grain, so it cannot hurt us.
00:38It doesn't do anything really, but the immune system of people with hay fever will see it
00:42and sound the alarm, and this happens in our nose.
00:47So our nose is filled with little cells that will identify those grains of pollen and then
00:54will release a ton of chemicals that will produce the symptoms that we experience.
01:01So it will dilate the blood vessels, and then we get the runny noses.
01:06It will make us itchy, and it will also increase the amount of mucus that is produced.
01:13So I start this time of year, about now, with a tablet.
01:17Then I graduate to some nose sprays, and in about a month I'm showing my license trying
01:22to get the behind-the-counter pseudoephedrine to try to try myself out so I'm not sniffling
01:26the whole time.
01:27I mean, what are some of the best medicines?
01:29What should you be doing if you really suffer from this?
01:31So a really good thing is to be well informed about the different types of medications and
01:36when it is best to take each of them.
01:38So you've mentioned the tablets, right?
01:41So those are antihistamines.
01:44And it is important because histamine is the main molecule produced by these cells of our
01:50immune system to give us the symptoms.
01:53However, these cells already have pre-produced histamine.
01:58It's ready to go.
01:59So the problem is that the moment that we get in touch with the pollen or with the allergen,
02:04it is, boom, and ready to go.
02:06So taking an antihistamine when the symptoms have already started is not going to do a lot,
02:14right?
02:15So it is better to take it before you know you are going to be exposed to the allergen.
02:20So say, for example, you've been invited to a picnic on this weekend and you know that
02:24there's going to be pollen around, then it's a good idea to take your antihistamine before
02:29you go out.
02:30Okay, before you start sneezing 37 times in a row.
02:33Exactly.
02:34Yes.
02:35Now, when we look at the medicines, because antihistamines, you know, there's the big
02:39brands we all know, and then they have different ingredients, can you possibly use two medicines
02:44at a time?
02:45Is there a benefit in doing that?
02:46Absolutely.
02:47Absolutely.
02:48Let's talk a little bit about the nasal sprays, right?
02:49There are different types of nasal sprays medication.
02:52There are some that are just saline solution, for example.
02:56They simply relieve the symptoms by washing away all of the mucus, right?
03:01You can combine that with a nasal spray that has something like a corticosteroid, and a
03:06corticosteroid is an anti-inflammatory.
03:08So what that is going to do is to basically tell the immune cells that are living in your
03:14nose, there's nothing to see here, go away, go home, right?
03:18So they will not have an immediate effect, but they rather have a long-lasting effect.
03:25So you can, you know, combine something that has that sort of immediate relief with something
03:30that is more sustained.
03:31And of course, you can always chat to your GP or your pharmacist to know which combinations
03:37can work best for you.
03:39Now, at this time of the year, I try to cut out other foods in my diet because I'm allergic
03:44to everything, and I find, I don't know if this is an old wives' tale, but if I don't
03:47have dairy and if I don't have too much wheat, then I'm usually not as bad.
03:51Am I imagining this?
03:52Is this some pseudoscience that just makes me feel better, or does it work?
03:55Yeah, probably.
03:56Not necessarily.
03:57Not necessarily.
03:58What you have touched is an important point, that those of us that do have, you know, the
04:04predisposition towards allergy, you know, will be easily triggered by not only Poland, but
04:10then...
04:11Easily triggered is a nice way to say that.
04:13Well, our immune system gets easily triggered.
04:15But yeah, that is correct, right?
04:18Your body is in this inflammatory mode, right?
04:21So everything that could trigger an allergy reaction will trigger the allergy reaction.
04:26Ah, this is so fascinating.
04:28And also, we've got to be taking out asthma preventers this time of year, or always, but you know,
04:32it can combine with hay fever, can't it?
04:34Yeah.
04:35Exactly.
04:36Let's talk about thunderstorm asthma particularly, because it's a very big issue here in Melbourne
04:40particularly.
04:42So what happens is that, you know, we have our grain of pollen, right?
04:45And it's normally quite chunky.
04:47In microscopic terms, it is quite, quite chunky.
04:50So what happens is that when we breathe it in, you know, it normally gets stuck in our
04:55nose.
04:56So the response to that is normally local.
04:59The hay fever symptoms that we have discussed.
05:01However, when the atmospheric conditions are just right or just wrong in this case, for
05:08example, there's a lot of moisture, humidity, then the pollen grain with absorbed water,
05:14it gets chunkier, and then it bursts.
05:17And all those tiny, tiny molecules get deeper in your lungs and can trigger asthma.
05:21It does not happen.
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