Tice: People can see light at the end of this dark tunnel

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Deputy Leader for Reform UK, Richard Tice, says people can see “light at the end of this dark tunnel” as Nigel Farage delivers the closing remarks at the party's conference in Birmingham. Report by Ajagbef. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn

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00:00How did you think it all went?

00:01Oh, it was incredible.

00:02Just so much energy and enthusiasm and excitement here at this conference.

00:06People couldn't see light at the end of this dark tunnel of socialism that we're currently in.

00:11And they couldn't see hope as opposed to the chaos and carnage at the cabinet table of Starmer's collapsing government.

00:19And the key message yesterday was get ready for a general election in 2027.

00:24And there's just massive energy.

00:26I'll be talking later in my speech at 3.30.

00:30Do you really think you can be ready for a general election in 2027?

00:33Well, we have to be because...

00:34You haven't got any candidates at the moment.

00:35We have to be and we will be.

00:37We've got thousands of candidates already for our May elections next year in 2026.

00:42And there's no one better, frankly, at rolling our sleeves up, getting stuck in.

00:47And we've got to basically work out, tell people how we're going to save the country.

00:51The finances are collapsing in front of our ears.

00:55Bond yields are rising.

00:56There's a moron premium applied to Rachel Reeves by the bond markets.

01:02I'm going to be talking about how we can turn that all around.

01:05Also speaking this afternoon is a man called Asimu Malhotra.

01:08He's spoken out against Covid vaccines in the past.

01:11Is reform about to become an anti-vax party?

01:14No, we're a party of free speech and expression and different views and ideas and thoughts.

01:19And that's really important.

01:20The idea that you can't talk about different ideas, different ways of looking at whatever it is,

01:25whether it's welfare, whether it's health, whether it's education.

01:28That's great.

01:29People come for the energy, the fringe events.

01:31It's been amazing yesterday.

01:32I was particularly humbled, really, to be alongside the cousin of one of the hostages,

01:40Evitar David, who we saw that horrific video of him emaciated digging his own grave.

01:46So it's been incredible here.

01:47I don't think anyone's saying that you can't have these people speaking.

01:50I suppose the question is, why have you decided to put on your main stage someone who is most well-known for speaking out against vaccines?

01:57I think because we just want to discuss different things, have different ideas.

02:01That's great.

02:02We welcome that.

02:03It makes it look anti-science, doesn't it?

02:05Completely the opposite.

02:06I mean, we're leading the way on net-stupid zero.

02:09We were sort of told we couldn't challenge that consensus.

02:12But actually now people are coming our way because they've realised it's insanity.

02:16Destroying jobs, destroying industries, makes no difference whatsoever to global CO2 levels.

02:21And actually, we would reduce CO2 if we use our own nuclear and our own gas.

02:25But is this a sign of where your policy is going on this?

02:27Are you about to say that if you got into government, you would start to stop people having as many vaccines?

02:32No, far from it.

02:33We want just to welcome debate and discussion.

02:35You're over-interpreting something.

02:37Don't panic, my good friend.

02:39It's just interesting because these sort of people don't speak at other party conferences.

02:43I'm just wondering why you've decided to put him on your stage.

02:45What's interesting is that we look at different ideas, different ways of doing things.

02:49I'm being approached by businesses up and down the country, really successful people,

02:53coming to me and saying, Richard, can we help?

02:55Can we help get you ready for government?

02:57Because we can turn this country around with good leadership, good detail behind it,

03:02and that's what we're getting stuck into.

03:04And I'll be discussing that later in my speech.

03:07Just finally, the reshuffle yesterday, I just wonder what your thoughts are on that.

03:10And Shabana Mahmood in the Home Office, she's seen as someone who has been more effective

03:15in this first year of the Labour government.

03:16Do you think that she might do a better job of trying to clamp down on illegal immigration?

03:21There's no evidence she's been more effective whatsoever.

03:23I've challenged her in the House of Commons, time after time, to deport all of the foreign

03:28criminals, blocking up our jails at huge taxpayer expense, and she's utterly failed.

03:34All I've had back is waffle, and so I don't think she'll be any more effective at stopping

03:38the boats than Yvette Cooper, who's completely failed, and now the boat numbers are up 40% plus

03:44this year, over 50,000 since the general election.

03:48Thanks, thanks, thank you very much.

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