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00:00Let's do some Patriots superlatives.
00:02All right, I like it.
00:03So rather than each doing our own list,
00:06let's negotiate.
00:07We'll negotiate and we'll come up with one as a show.
00:11That's what we did with the Red Sox, right?
00:12Yeah, we did.
00:12At the All-Star break with the Red Sox,
00:14we kind of negotiated a show superlative for the Sox.
00:17And we did all the league awards,
00:18but if they were given only to Patriots.
00:20So let's MVP.
00:21MVP of the team.
00:23If they're going to be good,
00:24you have them at nine, I have them at ten wins.
00:25We have them in the playoffs.
00:26So that means they are going to be good.
00:28Mm-hmm.
00:30So is it just Drake May?
00:32Does it have to be Drake May?
00:34Does it have to be the quarterback?
00:35Probably.
00:35Because I don't know if any one...
00:36I don't know if one receiver is going to have crazy numbers.
00:39Let's say May is out there.
00:40May is in the mix.
00:41Who else is even in the mix?
00:42So Gonzalez is their best individual player,
00:45but he's already missing week one.
00:46I don't like where that's headed, that direction,
00:48that that's going.
00:50If he's out there, he should be a candidate for it.
00:54It's hard to give it to somebody like a Milton Williams, right?
00:56Like you'd have to be like next level.
00:58I don't see that happening.
01:00Diggs, Henderson.
01:02Yeah.
01:02Like I really don't think there's that many options.
01:04I think it kind of has to be Drake May.
01:06If you're going to have a good season and you're going to be a good team,
01:08doesn't it kind of have to be May?
01:10Yeah.
01:11Any pushback back there?
01:13Any other suggestions?
01:13No, I was going to say Vrabel, but he's not a player.
01:16Oh, no, no, no.
01:16Well, Vrabel's in the mix for our coach of the year.
01:18Nick tries to get too creative.
01:19Yeah.
01:19Well, I mean, you know, he's a former player.
01:21Same with...
01:21I said Breslow was the Red Sox MVP.
01:23Remember that?
01:24I didn't until he just said it, but yes, I do remember that.
01:27Nick knows how to think outside the bomb.
01:28I didn't even remember the Chiefs won back-to-back Super Bowls.
01:30I definitely don't remember Nick.
01:31That was recent.
01:32You could remember Keith's picks, and they were three seconds before he talked.
01:35That's also true.
01:36That's a record.
01:37That's a good boy.
01:38So, yeah, I think it's probably the safe bet.
01:40I think team MVP, if they're going to be good, like, it's...
01:43Yeah, Drake's back.
01:44Even if you're not a believer in Drake May, what's the ultimate...
01:48Like, who else is it going to be?
01:49Send him in.
01:50Text line.
01:50Twitch chat.
01:51Call us up.
01:52617-779-793.
01:54If it's not Drake May, who is it?
01:55It would probably be Gonzalez, and the scenario would be...
01:59If Gonzalez...
01:59He misses week one.
02:00If Gonzalez were healthy week one, I think we might have answered it, Gonzalez.
02:03I have no idea if he's back.
02:04I don't know.
02:04This weekend, next weekend, a month from now, even when he's back, we have no idea.
02:07How many games would he have to play to get it?
02:09Let's say Drake May plays 17 games, and Christian Gonzalez plays 13 games.
02:15Five or six?
02:15Yeah.
02:16If he plays it at a high level, he could be the MVP if he missed a month.
02:19Yeah, he could be.
02:20But I don't feel good about what he's going to be when he gets back on the field at this
02:24point.
02:24No.
02:24And I don't feel good about him getting on the field anytime soon.
02:27Yeah.
02:27So, yeah, just based on him being hurt, I don't think it can be Gonzalez.
02:31I think by default, it's got to be Drake May.
02:33Next up, Offensive Player of the Year, Keith.
02:35All right, so usually, like, in the league, they give the MVP to the quarterback.
02:39And then they look for, like, a standout, running back, or wide out to give this award
02:43to.
02:43I don't think they have a 1,000-yard receiver.
02:46I'm probably still higher on Steph Diggs than most are.
02:50I don't really understand his weird apology yesterday, but whatever.
02:53I think it can't be any of the receivers.
02:57So, I think it might be Henderson.
02:57It's not Diggs.
02:59I don't think he's...
02:59It's not Pop.
03:00I don't think that...
03:01It's not for me.
03:02Are you making a vote for Pop Douglas?
03:03I would make a case for Pop, but I don't think it is him.
03:05I'm surprised you're not making a case for Diggs.
03:07I know.
03:07Well, I don't think he gets to 1,000 yards.
03:09I think what Henderson's going to do is going to be more impressive.
03:13I think he's going to be not a 1,000-yard runner, but he's going to be way over 1,000
03:16total yards.
03:18And I think it's a better chance to have more touchdowns than Diggs.
03:22And then when you look at it...
03:23Like, I don't think Drake May is going to, like, light the world on fire.
03:26So, you're not going to be like, oh, he's the Offensive Player of the Year.
03:28But if Travion Henderson runs for...
03:31I'm just making up numbers now.
03:32But if he runs for 800, catches for 500, six touchdowns...
03:37I was actually just looking this up.
03:38Do you want...
03:38I don't even know what they are.
03:39Do you want the SIM numbers from that same Stratomatic thing yesterday for Travion Henderson?
03:43They're quite high.
03:44Okay.
03:44But if they're this, he's definitely the Offensive Player of the Year.
03:47They have Travion Henderson down for 900 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns.
03:51What?
03:52They have him for another 38 grabs for 331.
03:55That's about 1,250 total yards.
03:57So, then...
03:58So, he's Rookie of the Year.
03:59Yeah, maybe.
04:00Yeah.
04:00I mean, he's the best rookie back here since Curtis, my favorite Martin.
04:03So, yeah.
04:03I did pick him yesterday for our season predictions for Offensive Rookie of the Year.
04:07So, with that, then I would have him as the Team Offensive Player of the Year.
04:09So, it's not Hunter Henry?
04:11No.
04:11No.
04:12And that's not even us being biased.
04:13That's in a bad way.
04:15I would go...
04:16I would have gone Travion Henderson, even independent of your case.
04:19I'm surprised you didn't push for Diggs.
04:21But I do think Offensive Player of the Year is Travion Henderson,
04:24who we'll probably hear from in another category coming up.
04:26Well, because I think there's a chance that Diggs might have...
04:29Even in a good scenario, Diggs might have as many receiving yards as Henderson has rushing yards.
04:34But then Henderson's going to have a bunch of catches and a bunch of receiving yards.
04:38And he's going to have, I think, more touchdowns.
04:40So, Diggs can still have a decent year, but Henderson would be the guy.
04:43I think that's fair.
04:44Billy, we missing anybody?
04:45We said Henry.
04:45We said Diggs.
04:46We said Pop Douglas.
04:47We said Travion Henderson.
04:48No, I think you're all covered.
04:49I think that's covering all the options.
04:51All right.
04:51This next one is interesting.
04:53Defensive Player of the Year.
04:54So, I think you have to still go Gonzalez.
04:58Yeah?
04:59Yeah.
04:59I think for this team, even if he misses four games.
05:04And now we're talking about he was out for two and a half months or whatever.
05:07So, if he's out for four games...
05:09I'm already fearful it's a lost year for him.
05:11Really?
05:12And I don't mean like he won't be out there.
05:14Oh, boy.
05:15I'm just fearful like he didn't have a training camp.
05:18He's going to miss some.
05:20He had like a day.
05:21I think the first day in pads he got hurt.
05:22So, maybe he had two non-padded practices.
05:24So, he didn't have a training camp.
05:25He had OTAs and things prior to that.
05:27He's pissed about his contract.
05:30According to Vrabel...
05:31Well, I was going to say, I wouldn't have thought that if Vrabel didn't offer that up.
05:34Me either.
05:34He can't get an extension now.
05:36I realize that.
05:36Vrabel brought up his contract before training camp even started.
05:40Never mind when he got hurt.
05:41So, he's already trending towards missing week one.
05:44Who knows when he's back.
05:45He hasn't had a training camp.
05:47I kind of am nervous it's going to be a lost season for him.
05:50But, you say Gonzo.
05:51I think Gonzo...
05:51I think he's still the best player at a premium position.
05:55And so, if he misses a couple of games...
05:57Like, I don't know how many guys are even going to play 17 games.
05:59Right?
05:59So, some guys might start the season, miss a couple in the middle, and then they all end
06:02with like 15.
06:04So, when we add it all up, we'll be like, alright, who was their best defensive player?
06:07And if he's shutting down wide receivers, coming up with a couple picks here and there,
06:11I think he has a leg up on everybody else.
06:13I mean, he's easily their most talented player on the whole team.
06:16I mean, he's their only blue chip player, unless Drake May gets there.
06:19He's the only blue chip player they even have.
06:21But, I just don't like the whole...
06:23I mean, I don't even know when he's coming back.
06:25So, I have a hard time going there personally, but maybe I'll get outvoted.
06:28My candidate would be Spillane.
06:30Spillane was making plays left and right.
06:32Good interview this morning.
06:33When we saw him in training camp, great interview this morning.
06:34Check that out.
06:35It was good.
06:35Odyssey app.
06:36I just feel like he's going to be a guy who is in the middle of stuff.
06:40Like 150 tackles.
06:42And if the defense turns it around, he's going to be kind of the blood and guts, like,
06:46intangible leader of it.
06:47So, that would be my personal submission.
06:49But Milton Williams would be a candidate.
06:51Carlton Davis could be a candidate.
06:53I don't like Landry.
06:55No.
06:56I mean, I don't feel strongly about that one.
06:57Does anybody get to 10 sacks on the team?
06:59Yeah, because that sort of stands out.
07:01Probably not.
07:01I mean, they could play 17 games.
07:02I say Spillane.
07:03He says Gonzo.
07:04Has Barmore gotten close to 10?
07:05I think Barmore got eight a couple years ago.
07:06Seven and a half.
07:07Yeah, maybe.
07:09Maybe.
07:09That's not bad.
07:10That's one I hadn't considered.
07:11Good one.
07:12So, that's your submission there?
07:13I would go with Spillane.
07:14You would go Spillane.
07:15Billy's nodding, too.
07:16Spillane.
07:17Oh, you're outvoted, Keith.
07:18Damn.
07:18That was much easier than I thought.
07:19Oh, no.
07:20I thought I was going to have to do much more of an upsell.
07:21We're going to have to get Terp down here to break the tie.
07:23That was going to be 2-2.
07:24And then Terp has to sprint down here with a tiebreaker.
07:26Any opportunity we have to get Terp to run in here today, I think it's a good one.
07:29But we don't need to break the tie.
07:31So, as a show, we will go with Robert Spillane.
07:33You've been outvoted.
07:34Next up, this one's self-evident.
07:36We don't need to spend any time on it.
07:37If he's the Offensive Player of the Year, he will also be the Patriots Offensive Rookie of the Year.
07:41Travion Henderson, right?
07:43Yeah, obviously.
07:44But they have a chance where, at one point in the huddle, you could have five rookies.
07:52Right?
07:52Because Will Campbell, we'll see what's going on with that ankle injury from yesterday.
07:55Will Campbell, obvious starter.
07:56Jared Wilson, starter.
07:58Marcus Bryant got a lot of reps.
08:00Because Morgan Moses couldn't go all the time.
08:01So, if he plays right tackle, there's three offensive linemen that are rookies.
08:04We got him in there, too.
08:06No, no, no.
08:06I'm just telling you how many there are.
08:07Yeah.
08:08So, and then Kyle Williams, I don't think he's going to have a monster season.
08:11But, like, he could factor in.
08:12Henderson's clearly got a leg up on everybody.
08:15But half of your offense could be rookies on certain snaps.
08:19But, no, it would be Henderson.
08:21I guess the only argument would be, like, Campbell.
08:24Yeah, if you want to get cute.
08:25Because, like, the Offensive Player of the Year is more like a numbers guy.
08:28You're never going to vote an offensive lineman for Offensive Player of the Year.
08:31The Offensive Rookie of the Year could be Campbell.
08:33I'm going to go Henderson, obviously.
08:33I would also go Henderson.
08:35And I would have done that even before Campbell popped up with a midweek downgrade last night on the injury report.
08:40Which also has me a little spooked.
08:41We don't know the full extent of that.
08:43But that has me spooked.
08:44Okay.
08:44Defensive Rookie of the Year.
08:46It's got to be the eraser.
08:46Just been erased.
08:48It's got to be the eraser.
08:49Start in safety.
08:50Reason you cut peppers.
08:51Reason you downgraded Kyle Duggar and might still trade and or release Kyle Duggar.
08:55The eraser.
08:56He's pretty much running unopposed, right?
08:58Most of their draft picks, I feel like, were offensive guys.
09:00That's a good point.
09:01I don't even know who else, as far as going to get actual snaps.
09:05They already cut.
09:05Unless there's a lot of injuries.
09:06They already cut Swinson.
09:07Right.
09:08And brought him back on the practice.
09:09Yeah, I think it kind of has to be.
09:10So, I think by default.
09:11Okay.
09:12I don't know how to feel about him, by the way.
09:15Well, they clearly like him enough to tell Duggar he's not playing and cut peppers.
09:19They like him.
09:20Yeah.
09:20But then, apparently, he was terrible in those joint practices in Minnesota.
09:24Keith, you and I were there.
09:24I remember one play where he broke up a pass in the end zone on Diggs.
09:29I remember him for one play out there, which maybe with a deep safety is not a bad thing.
09:32I acknowledge that.
09:33Maybe a deep safety is just taking stuff away and he's not a factor or, like, super noticeable.
09:37I shouldn't say a factor.
09:38But I think he has to be Defensive Rookie of the Year.
09:41Next up, this is a new award they're actually handing out.
09:43This is a real award.
09:44NFL-wide, the protector of the year.
09:46Who's the Patriots protector of the year?
09:48I think it's got to be.
09:48I think the safest bet is Mike Onwenu.
09:51I think we're probably all hoping that it's Campbell.
09:53He's the fourth overall pick.
09:54He's at left tackle, so it's a more important position.
09:57But I don't really have a ton of confidence in anybody other than Onwenu.
10:04Like, there's a case where Morgan Moses is healthy and plays well and is solid.
10:08And Jared Wilson, there was a lot of rave reviews during camp, and maybe he's a really good guard.
10:13But to me, the one guy that you feel like you at least know what the level of play is going to be is Onwenu.
10:21I'd make a case for Campbell.
10:22And I think Onwenu has been easily the most accomplished offensive lineman.
10:27No offense.
10:27I know a lot of Patriots, or at least one prominent Patriot, that takes offense to what is said in various places, podcasts, radio.
10:34And I know we're going to talk to Onwenu later.
10:36I don't think he had a great year last year.
10:37I don't think that's any secret.
10:39So I just wonder what he is.
10:41I would make a case for Will Campbell, but the injury report does have me a little spooked with him, admittedly.
10:47Yeah, for sure.
10:47I would have been pounding the table for Campbell.
10:49That's still my answer today, but I feel less strongly about it knowing he's dinged up.
10:52Do you feel better about Onwenu playing one position?
10:55Because I feel like moving him from tackle to guard, tackle to guard, I think was probably a little bit of a...
10:59Are we sure he won't kick out the tackle if Moses misses time?
11:02I guess we're not sure about anything.
11:03Yeah, I could see him getting bounced around.
11:06All right, break the tie here, guys.
11:07What do we think?
11:08Campbell and Onwenu, or submit another name?
11:10I'm team Onwenu.
11:12Team Onwenu.
11:13Hell yeah.
11:13I've been downvoted.
11:14Hell yeah.
11:14I was hoping we'd get Terp in here to break a tie, but again...
11:16Don't need it.
11:17Shut down.
11:17Protector of the year.
11:18Don't need it.
11:19Go for Mike Onwenu.
11:19As voted on by the Jones and Keith program, Mike Onwenu, who we'll talk to coming up about two hours from now.
11:24Give him his plaque when he comes on.
11:26Well, you earned it.
11:28Coach of the year, Keith.
11:29Now, this seems obvious.
11:30Does it, though?
11:31They have a lot of coaches.
11:32It's not head coach of the year.
11:33It's coach of the year.
11:34It is not head coach of the year.
11:35It is Patriots coach of the year.
11:37It could be a coordinator.
11:38Sure.
11:38It could be a position coach.
11:40Yep.
11:40It could be a strength coach.
11:42Well, it could be a strength coach.
11:43Yeah, it could be.
11:44It's Stroudnail's brother.
11:45That's who we're giving it to.
11:47Congratulations.
11:48Do you think this basically boils down to McDaniels and Vrabel, or am I missing someone?
11:51We like Jeremy Springer.
11:52We like Jeremy Springer.
11:53I love Springer, and I like TBD on Terrell Williams.
11:56Like, if the defense has a big turnaround on you...
11:57I think he's way too much TBD to have any idea what's going on there.
12:00I won't give him this.
12:01No, no, no.
12:02I'm going to go with Vrabel.
12:03I like Vrabel.
12:05Hell yeah.
12:05Yeah, I like Vrabel, the head coach, more than I like even McDaniels, the offensive coordinator.
12:10I didn't really like the McDaniels hire.
12:12I wasn't in love with the Vrabel hire, by the way, but I like it a lot more than McDaniels.
12:15We don't know on Terrell Williams.
12:17Look, Jeremy Springer, nice interview when we had him on last year, but I'm not picking
12:22the special teams coordinator.
12:23I'm not picking the special teams coordinator, although that first game against Washington...
12:26First play of the game!
12:27Special teams look lights out.
12:28100 yards to the house.
12:29I said yesterday in the past season preview, which you can seek out on socials, at Jones and
12:33Keefe.
12:33If I said he's going to get coach of the year buzz, if he's going to get NFL coach of
12:36the year buzz, he's probably the Patriots coach of the year.
12:39So Mike Vrabel is the answer.
12:42Okay.
12:42Now, how many pro bowlers are the Pats going to have?
12:45All right.
12:45So I guess the Gonzalez injury thing is a wild kind of guess.
12:49And if you guys have Spillane as the...
12:51Zero point zero.
12:54No, it won't be zero.
12:55It won't be zero.
12:55Spillane is going to be their defensive player of the year.
12:57That doesn't mean he's going to make a pro bowl.
12:59No, I don't think he's a pro bowl in the middle of the linebacker.
13:01Yeah, I don't feel like he is.
13:02I think they probably have two.
13:06And I think it's kind of like lame.
13:07It's got like Brandon Schooler.
13:09Brandon Schooler.
13:10And like Marcus Jones.
13:11Like, do they get like the gunner and the return guy?
13:13Oh, okay, okay.
13:14I see what you're doing.
13:15I think that might be those two.
13:17Because Drake may...
13:19Okay, if you want to play the game out where he's the eighth alternate, fine.
13:22But I'm talking about like name to the pro bowl.
13:23I think Drake May is going to get in.
13:26To the pro bowl in the AFC?
13:27He's going to be one of the three best AFC quarterbacks.
13:30No, no.
13:30But I think it might be as a replacement.
13:32But I think...
13:32So that's kind of semantics.
13:34I mean, he made it last year, for God's sake.
13:35Well, that's what I'm saying.
13:36And when I said yesterday he's going to earn his way in, I mean, the stats are going to reflect.
13:39Last year, he won a game.
13:41So like this year, he's going to earn his way in statistically and with winning games.
13:44That's all I meant.
13:45He's not going to outperform Burrow and Lamar and Josh Allen.
13:47But that's what I'm saying.
13:47Like Burrow, Lamar...
13:48So if they do straight up three quarterbacks per conference, either Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar,
13:54or Allen will not be a pro bowler.
13:55Right.
13:56So I don't think Drake May has taken down one of those other three.
13:59No.
14:00So I guess this is one like...
14:02I kind of...
14:02I kind of like the idea of looking at it and it just says Schooler and Marcus Jones.
14:06Yeah, because that's where I think it is.
14:08I think it ends up being those guys.
14:10Two pro bowlers.
14:10You're like, wow!
14:11Two pro bowlers!
14:12Oh, oh.
14:12Oh.
14:12Friend and Schooler, Marcus Jones.
14:13Yeah, yeah.
14:14All right.
14:14Let's write those in.
14:14Okay.
14:15That's good.
14:15All right.
14:16All right.
14:16So let's recap it.
14:17Again, I think I wrote these down properly.
14:18MVP...
14:19Actually, Keith wrote them in.
14:19They're definitely right.
14:20I wrote them in.
14:20Don't worry.
14:20MVP of the team.
14:22Drake May.
14:22Not a pro bowler.
14:23Travion Henderson is our offensive player and offensive rookie of the year.
14:27Defensive player of the year.
14:29Robert Splane.
14:30Keith was outvoted on that.
14:31He won a gonzo.
14:31I won a gonzo.
14:32Defensive rookie of the year.
14:33Running unopposed.
14:34The Eraser.
14:35Craig Woodson.
14:37Protector of the year.
14:38Mike Unwedy.
14:38I was outvoted on that one.
14:39Yes.
14:39A little disagreement there.
14:40Yes.
14:40I made a case for Will Campbell.
14:42Coach of the year.
14:43There's a lot of coaches on this team.
14:44Mm-hmm.
14:44Beyond the head coach, but we did go with the head coach.
14:47Very bold.
14:47Mike Vrabel.
14:48And two pro bowlers for the Pats this year going to Hawaii or wherever the game is these
14:53days.
14:54Brendan Schooler and Marcus Jones.
14:56Nice.
14:57Two pro bowlers.
14:57Pops.
14:58Yeah, it does.
14:59Then you read the fine print and it's a little less impressive.
15:01Oh, no.
15:01Never mind.
15:02So those are our Pats awards.
15:03Our Pats superlatives.
15:04That we're handing out here in the preseason.
15:06We can revisit throughout the year and see how we did.
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