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00:00Your dad called me a liar.
00:03That is my character, a liar.
00:05To my knowledge, my dad doesn't think Veronica's a liar.
00:08Unfortunately, it kind of seems like Veronica's gonna speak it into existence.
00:12Who else have they done this to?
00:14Olivia.
00:15In about a month, I'm gonna move to Montana.
00:19I have no idea what's out there.
00:21It's still like a whole leap of faith, but also like, I just gotta make this work, and
00:25I'm gonna do it.
00:26Lydia Joy Plath.
00:28Will you marry me?
00:31Please say no.
00:34Yes.
00:38So you guys are saving your first kiss for your wedding?
00:42Yeah.
00:43Because I just, I couldn't do that, and I don't know who could.
00:47I've never in my life met a straight man who voluntarily gives up the opportunity to be
00:53intimate with a woman.
00:58I mean, everything that you and Lydia have said is great and sounds amazing, but I gotta
01:17ask you, yeah, are you gay?
01:29No.
01:29You shoot me straight.
01:33I'm straight as an arrow.
01:35You promise.
01:37Absolutely.
01:38Not that I have anything wrong with any gay person.
01:41Veronica's favorite people are gay.
01:43I have some gay friends.
01:44It's like, they're some of the most fun people.
01:46No, for sure.
01:47But I would hate for someone who has, you know, other desires to be dating my sister.
01:52No, I get that.
01:54No, absolutely.
01:54Yeah.
01:55I don't mean to offend you.
01:57You're just very different from pretty much anybody that I've ever met.
02:03For Lydia's sake, we just want to get that off the table.
02:11Zach said he's not gay.
02:13Maybe I'm just completely wrong, and I'm totally fine with that, and I hope that I am wrong.
02:18I don't have a problem with gay people.
02:19I just don't think that if you are gay, you should marry a woman.
02:24I don't have any ill will harbored toward Zach.
02:27I mean, I've given him a hard time.
02:30But just to be fair, I mean, you kind of, this has sprung on us very quickly.
02:36So, I mean, I just want to know that Zach is in for the right reasons, you know.
02:42Fair enough.
02:43Yeah, I would totally do the same if my sister came home with a guy, and he said, like,
02:49oh, yeah, like, I'm proposing today.
02:51It's, like, totally fair that you guys are in protective mode.
02:55I appreciate it, and I'm, like, totally open to conversation or hanging out or anything
03:00if you guys want to get to know me more.
03:04Ethan asked if I was gay, and I'm, I don't know.
03:08It doesn't affect me.
03:10I know who I am.
03:11And so that wasn't offensive, and it wasn't, you know, I grew up with two sisters.
03:17I'm going to have some feminine tendencies.
03:20But I think, yeah, I still am confident as a man.
03:25And I do have a passion for her and a love for her that can be shown in those ways,
03:30but I'm deciding to hold those off until marriage.
03:33But Ethan and Micah definitely had a lot of personal questions,
03:36and I was willing to answer all of them because it's how they get to know me,
03:41and it's how they show their protection for their sister.
03:43And I wouldn't have it any other way.
03:45I want them to protect her as much as I want to protect her.
03:47Veronica and I leave tomorrow.
03:50We have a very hectic schedule for the next two months or so.
03:56Well, hopefully we can get to Boca at some point.
03:59Yeah, you're welcome down there.
04:01Yeah, it'd be nice to see your house and everything.
04:03I do want to see your work ethic.
04:06It's great that he's inviting me to his home in Boca to help him out,
04:10but also he kind of is looking to see my work ethic.
04:15So I understand he's still testing me, but I'm okay with that,
04:20and it's good to just be invited to his home.
04:24I know I've been kind of cold to you.
04:28I want to like you.
04:31I want nothing better than to have the best relationship with you.
04:34Have a good relationship with you and everything works out.
04:35Thank you, guys, yeah.
04:37I'm not there yet.
04:38I don't quite like you yet.
04:43You're going to have to earn that.
04:45I mean, am I satisfied with Zach's answer?
04:51Honestly, no.
04:53I don't feel any better about the situation,
04:55but I do feel better that I did my part.
04:59I did what I can do.
05:01Yeah, thank you guys for asking questions and feel free to...
05:05Yeah, relationships are a lot of work.
05:07Yeah, they are.
05:08Well, the day was a mixture of everything.
05:11I had the enormous high of becoming a fiancée to the wonderful Lydia Plath,
05:18but also the enormous chaos of being bombarded by questions that some I expected and some didn't expect.
05:28It was also a lot more emotions to deal with than I expected,
05:32not only my own, but the mixture of dynamics between the whole family and friends.
05:37And so I'm just ready to shut off my brain and take some rest.
05:43All right.
05:44Well, thanks for facing the firing squad.
05:46For sure.
05:47See you around.
05:48Yeah.
06:06Here you are.
06:08Zach left this morning.
06:10Ethan and Micah had quite the conversation with Zach.
06:12And the one thing that I don't understand is, correct me if I'm wrong,
06:18but they asked my fiancée if he was gay.
06:25When Zach told me that they asked that, I was just speechless.
06:29I don't think I was mad at them.
06:30Just disappointed.
06:31It's almost sad in today's culture that saving our first kiss could be taken as
06:37maybe they don't want to be intimate.
06:39Like, and not as like, wow, they're really respectful.
06:44They're honoring.
06:45They're a genuine man with great character to honor and respect my sister.
06:51It's a beautiful thing.
06:54And I wish it could have been taken that way.
06:59Ethan saved sex for marriage, and I didn't think he was gay for that.
07:04Yeah.
07:06Yeah.
07:08Good for you.
07:08Is there anything else you want to say about that?
07:11No.
07:11Yeah.
07:12Yeah.
07:36Ronan, can you do the dishes?
07:37I could if I wanted to, but they're not mine.
07:40Who does the dishes around here?
07:41Oh, not me.
07:42Yeah.
07:43Me and Ethan came here down to Boca
07:45to visit Micah and Veronica for a little bit.
07:47Ethan and Micah went over to the new house
07:49to do some work and get it ready,
07:50and me and Veronica are just hanging out here at the house.
07:53You don't have a kitchen at your new house right now, do you?
07:55No, we don't have a kitchen.
07:57But Micah and I, if we cook, we cook together.
07:59Like, if we want to eat, we'll figure it out together.
08:02I don't sit home and wait to cook a meal for a man.
08:06I worry that, like, Lydia is living to be somebody's wife.
08:11That's what she wants, whatever.
08:13But that's losing yourself.
08:15Mmm, maybe. I don't know.
08:18That's your opinion.
08:19What's your opinion?
08:20Um, I don't know. To each their own.
08:22She just wants to get married.
08:24Yep.
08:25Lydia asked her to be the maid of honor.
08:26I'm extremely thankful that she did.
08:28It means a lot to me.
08:29Um, I may not agree with everything.
08:32You know, it might be a little bit fast, but, like, she's my sister.
08:35You know, I'm not gonna tell her no or try to stop her or anything.
08:39I hate being put in the middle.
08:42Zach doesn't know what he's getting into.
08:44He's been here for a short period of time.
08:46I mean, we're a big family.
08:47You're a different family?
08:48I get it. We're like, oh, there's a bunch of us,
08:50and it can be weird or intimidating or whatever, but, yeah.
08:53Not intimidating, but the family I originally thought I saw, I don't see them today.
09:02I was welcome originally.
09:04I think Olivia was welcome originally, and then they replace you, like, this weekend in Cairo.
09:09I walked in that room, and I felt not welcome, not wanted.
09:13I think, don't think this the wrong way, but I just don't think you're used to a large family.
09:17And I don't think you get that there's, like, I don't even talk to all my siblings.
09:20I don't talk to dad.
09:21I'm not talking to them, but your sister lies about me.
09:24I make an effort to speak to everybody and be on good terms.
09:27And that's one thing I really appreciate about you, and I feel like some people are like that,
09:31some people aren't.
09:32We're not as good at communicating.
09:34I don't know.
09:35It's like, part of me wants to talk about it and work it out,
09:37but I feel like that's not really doable if we're not being rational.
09:42And the accountability, like, your dad, he said that he's never treated me any differently.
09:48I think that in our family, we're more thinkers, not feelers as much,
09:54so maybe we should be a little bit more sensitive.
09:56But I also think you let everything, you build up everything in your head
10:00and you exaggerate sometimes, or you interpret things the wrong way.
10:03There's certain things, and I'm like, I know what happened.
10:06I know what I've seen.
10:07And they're like, that never happened.
10:11I don't get why she's talking trash about my family.
10:14That just doesn't make sense.
10:21Dad's already counting on grandchildren.
10:23You can't stop the inevitable.
10:29Oh, there's one of those Braxton Hicks!
10:32Oh!
10:34I want to fight for this.
10:36You don't want to fight for this, you want to fight me.
10:37Yes, I do.
10:38No, I want my family, and I want you.
10:40Veronica's over at the top, upset.
10:43It's hard when things blow up this much, and it's like, there's no solution for it.
11:00Good morning!
11:01Look who's here!
11:03How's everything going?
11:04We were just talking about you.
11:05We got a lot to get done in the next few weeks, right?
11:09Yeah.
11:10So, I have some big news.
11:13We've all just presumed, I guess, that I'm moving to Colorado.
11:17Oh yeah, that's the last conversation we had going out to the proposal, right?
11:22Yeah.
11:23So, what's up?
11:24So, I'm actually staying, and Zach is moving here.
11:29No!
11:30Yeah.
11:31I fly out next week to go help him move here.
11:36So, girls, I'm staying.
11:37You're staying?
11:38Yay!
11:39Awesome!
11:40And the crowd goes wild!
11:41Yay!
11:43Yep, Zach's moving here.
11:44Yay!
11:45I'm really excited that Lydia's staying here.
11:49It's going to be so much more fun.
11:50We can see her so much more often.
11:52What a turn of a vent!
11:54Yeah, I know.
11:55I wasn't expecting either.
11:56What's changed?
11:57I mean, you guys are going to go out there.
11:59He was going to work.
12:00He has a job lined up in Tallahassee as a tennis coach for the city.
12:04Tennis has been his hobby his whole life, so...
12:07Yeah, he's got a passion for it, right?
12:08Yeah.
12:09Mm-hmm.
12:10Seems like a good thing.
12:11Why Tallahassee?
12:13Yeah, we just took some time to pray on it, and...
12:19We just really felt like Tallahassee was the place for now.
12:23And you know what I think?
12:24It would be nice if they were in Tallahassee when the first child comes.
12:31It would be so nice just to be able to hop down.
12:34Oh, yeah.
12:35Right?
12:36Mm-hmm.
12:37And be a part of...
12:38Dad's already counting on grandchildren.
12:40It's like...
12:41You can't stop the inevitable.
12:43It's gonna happen.
12:46Maybe two years.
12:48Two years.
12:49Two years.
12:50Two years from now, we'll revisit, and she'll be like,
12:53Oh, I gotta sit down.
12:57Oh, there's one of those Braxton Hicks.
13:03All my children have been, like, going away.
13:05Mm-hmm.
13:06I was just putting you in that bucket of Lydia's going away.
13:10Also, I was getting used to that theme.
13:12Yeah.
13:13This is like a total reversal.
13:14Yeah.
13:15Life with a family of unusual size, you just get used to a lot of moving pieces and plans
13:20changing.
13:21Mariah is leaving for Montana.
13:24I thought Lydia was leaving, but now she's staying, and Zack and her are here.
13:30So that's the switcheroo.
13:32So he'll be here, like, soon.
13:34You guys are up in the air with a lot of things.
13:36There's a lot up in the air.
13:37So where's he gonna end up temporarily?
13:39So...
13:40Does he want to stay here?
13:41Because he can if he wants.
13:42Yeah.
13:43I mean, there's definitely plenty of room in this house for Zack to crash.
13:46We'll make it work.
13:47Yeah.
13:48Really, the main things that we have to do is focus on the farm.
13:51Yeah.
13:52I think that I'm planning on using Ethan and Amber to help me with some things.
13:56I was just gonna ask.
13:57When is...
13:58Is Ethan coming into town, like, a week before the wedding?
14:00He's coming in.
14:01It's probably when you're out in Colorado.
14:03No.
14:04It should be afterwards so he can spend more time with Zack.
14:07I know.
14:08I know.
14:09But, you know, sometimes schedules don't work out.
14:12So if Zack stays here, I know Isaac and Zack have gotten to hang out a little bit, but not
14:17too much.
14:18So maybe that would give him more time to catch up.
14:21Because I know the brothers gave him a little bit of a hard time, which he took on.
14:27And actually, Ethan and I were talking the other day, and Ethan was like,
14:32I'm sorry for giving Zack such a hard time.
14:36Did he tell Zack that?
14:37No.
14:38He doesn't have Zack's number, but I told Zack and he was like, well, that's nice.
14:42Well, he still needs to tell him, in my opinion.
14:47Hey, pay attention.
14:56Can you sit?
14:57Shake.
14:58Shake.
14:59Come on.
15:00Oh, okay.
15:07Hello.
15:10How are you?
15:11Good to see you.
15:12Good to have you back.
15:14Hey, Amber.
15:15Hi.
15:16What's up?
15:17Come on, babe.
15:20So what you guys been up to?
15:25Just kidding, Rene.
15:29What happened?
15:30What?
15:30What happened?
15:31What?
15:32What's the matter?
15:34What are we gonna do today?
15:36Like, were you with me and Isaac
15:37when we climbed up on top of the building
15:39and was throwing cheese on the cars?
15:40No.
15:42I think you were.
15:43I swear you were.
15:44I would never do anything like that.
15:46Nah, it doesn't hurt anything.
15:48And we only hit, like, four cars.
15:50No, it was like two.
15:52The car was so dead at 11.
15:52But first you weren't there, and now you were there,
15:54but then it was four, but then it was two, but then-
15:57Yeah, I incriminated myself.
15:59Yeah, I was really-
15:59You're in trouble, Micah.
16:01Yes.
16:02She can't trust you anymore.
16:02You're a liar.
16:06No, I've never called him a liar.
16:09I said you have lied.
16:11But a liar is a character.
16:13A thief is a character stealing something.
16:15Veronica, I didn't need to bring that up.
16:17Well, I'm just telling you.
16:18Setting the record straight.
16:21Every interaction I've seen with Veronica and Amber
16:24has been, like, just so happy and fun,
16:26and, like, I don't really know where this came from.
16:29So what's- what's the matter?
16:32What's- you and Amber didn't get along?
16:34No, I'm just getting gaslit by everybody,
16:36so I'm just, like, gonna-
16:37How are you getting gaslit?
16:39We're talking about stuff with Dad and Mariah?
16:41No, just in general, but yeah.
16:42It's, like, the basis of it.
16:43Hmm.
16:45Because it's many people gaslighting against one.
16:50But blame me for being emotionally intelligent.
16:53Or, like, the documented evidence-
16:54I guess what- what has to happen for everything to-
16:57Well, they have to actually do something.
16:58Go away and- and start over with a clean slate, because-
17:01I don't think there will be ever a clean slate.
17:04Um, but your dad chose not to apologize.
17:07He said to Micah that he's never treated me differently.
17:09Maybe that's what he thinks.
17:12I clearly look at the way my family-
17:16what they do differently than you do.
17:18I perceive that they do things sincerely.
17:20They may flip-flop a couple times,
17:22and they may not apologize.
17:23But the flip-flop, they blame it on me.
17:25I- I just have to say, I don't think this is making anything any better.
17:32I'll just keep speaking up on it to them, about it, until it's resolved.
17:42I've been trying to take Veronica's side for forever, and I still am.
17:46It was getting damn hard.
17:47We all put a marshmallow in together, and then you just say chubby bunny.
17:56Chubby bunny.
17:57Chubby bunny.
17:58Chubby bunny.
17:59You're eating it!
18:00Don't eat them!
18:01Er, er.
18:02Violator.
18:04Blech.
18:06My family doesn't have anything to do with mine and your relationship.
18:10We want everyone-
18:11Oh my gosh, they're not doing anything.
18:13They're just lovely.
18:15Come on.
18:16Come on.
18:26Okay.
18:27The rules are, we all- we all- we all put a marshmallow in together.
18:31Okay.
18:32Right?
18:33And then you just say chubby bunny.
18:34Okay.
18:35And you just keep doing that.
18:36And you can't laugh, Mariah.
18:38You- well then you need to go in and over.
18:40Why can't you?
18:41Why can't you?
18:42Because if she makes me laugh, I'm gonna throw them out of my mouth.
18:44Okay, don't make her laugh.
18:45Okay.
18:46Okay.
18:47I am leaving for Montana in a couple weeks and Sydney is over.
18:52She is just coming to see me before I leave, so.
18:55All right.
18:56Don't chew it though.
18:57Don't chew it though.
18:58Chubby bunny.
18:59Chubby bunny.
19:00Chubby bunny.
19:01You can- you can come up with your own tactics.
19:02Just stick it in your cheek.
19:03Chubby bunny.
19:05Stick it in your cheek.
19:06Don't chew it though.
19:07Don't chew it.
19:08Why are you having it in the middle of your mouth?
19:09Just put it- put it over to yourself.
19:11Do your best.
19:12Chipmunk impersonation.
19:13You're a bunny!
19:14You can be Chip, she can be Dale.
19:15Hi.
19:16Hi.
19:17I am.
19:18Growing up we didn't keep any sugar or anything like junk food or unhealthy stuff in our pantry
19:23and I don't know if 16-year-old Mariah looked into the future and saw us now stuffing our faces full of marshmallows.
19:31I probably would have been speechless, not at the marshmallows, but at the fact that my- my dad is a 50-year-old jacked guy.
19:39No, I'm not kidding.
19:44Okay.
19:45Hey?
19:46Chubby bunny.
19:47Chubby bunny.
19:48Come on.
19:49All right, now tell me-
19:50Come on.
19:51Sorry.
19:52Okay.
19:53We're going to be laughing at your pronunciation first.
19:56Ready?
19:57Number three.
19:58Ready?
19:59Okay, here we go.
20:00Chubby bunny.
20:02Chubby bunny.
20:03Chubby bunny.
20:04I'm excited.
20:06Oh, Mariah's going to match on it.
20:08Like three.
20:09Chubby bunny.
20:11What's the second word?
20:13Chubby bunny.
20:14Okay.
20:15All right.
20:16Mariah had approached me with, what do you think about me visiting Montana sometime?
20:21She began to talk about that a while back, but that's morphed into like, she's going to Montana.
20:27It's way too far away from me.
20:29I wish she wasn't going in some respects because I won't be able to just pop over and see her or drive down one evening and catch up and spend a weekend with her.
20:39Congratulations.
20:40Round four.
20:41Round four.
20:42All right, round four, go.
20:43Ready?
20:44Here we go.
20:45Chubby bunny.
20:46Chubby bunny.
20:47Chubby bunny.
20:48I don't know.
20:53She's got the smallest mouth.
20:54No.
20:55Okay.
20:56No.
20:57Okay, let's go.
20:58You're eating it.
20:59Don't eat them.
21:00You can't eat them.
21:01Don't eat them.
21:02Er, er.
21:03Violator.
21:04Say it.
21:05Say it.
21:06Say it.
21:07I've never been to Montana before, but I'm definitely looking for like a difficult challenge moving to Montana.
21:13Something to overcome and conquer.
21:16And just kind of prove to myself that I can do hard things and maybe if I get bigger problems, I'll stop worrying about the little ones.
21:26Okay.
21:27I'm sorry.
21:36I'm sorry.
21:37I'm sorry.
21:38I can't talk about this.
21:39It was so gross.
21:40Oh my God.
21:41Where did Mariah go?
21:42She cheated.
21:43I put eight marshmallows in my mouth and Barry dry heaved the marshmallows up and Mariah spit them in the flower bed.
22:04So I was the clear cut winner.
22:05I'm throwing these away.
22:06These are really nasty.
22:07This is like a South Georgia snowball.
22:08I could do it twice again.
22:09His?
22:10No, no, no, no.
22:11His is hard.
22:12Stop it.
22:13Stop it.
22:14I just hope in Montana it's like a time for her to regroup and clear her head because she's been through a lot over the past couple months.
22:21Okay.
22:22Okay.
22:23Veronica, how did my family become your enemy so fast?
22:24They made me their enemy.
22:26I understand you're really hurt, and I want nothing more than to try to do it.
22:28I just hope in Montana it's like a time for her to regroup and clear her head because she's been through a lot over the past couple months.
22:37Veronica, how did my family become your enemy so fast?
22:49They made me their enemy.
22:51I understand you're really hurt, and I want nothing more than to try to fix this.
22:56You don't want to fix it. You don't want to support me.
22:57I want nothing more than for everyone to be on the same plane.
22:59You sit back there. You want it to be perfect, because you guys don't have those feelings.
23:04You guys don't feel anything.
23:05Yes, we do.
23:06No, you don't.
23:08After the incident with Amber in the kitchen, Veronica and I go outside to kind of continue and hopefully resolve some of this.
23:16Veronica's over the top, upset.
23:18It's hard when things blow up this much, and it's like there's no solution for it.
23:25Almost.
23:27You got it, got it.
23:28I don't know you can. My knee's not flat.
23:30No, look. I can sit on it. I can land.
23:32I did it. I did it. I did it. I did it.
23:43Wow.
23:45That's pretty cool.
23:46I thought that I understood Veronica's beef, and it seemed kind of simple and straightforward, but it feels like it's growing more and more complex every day, and more and more people are being added to that list, probably myself included at this point.
24:02It just made me question the rationale for everything else that she has said about my family.
24:09I feel bad for Monica.
24:10Yeah, I do feel bad for Monica. He's stuck in the middle. He's going to walk a line that he should not have to walk. That's trouble.
24:19I, Veronica, we have, I have been talking to you and trying to understand, trying to resolve this for a long time.
24:23You're not trying to understand. You're being defensive.
24:25I guess we'll go see what they're up to.
24:30You have a problem with one thing, on to the next, on to the next.
24:34Correct, because none of them get resolved.
24:37This has been brewing inside for months. I had to smile and pretend it's all okay at the proposal where I'm not wanted, don't want to be there, I felt attacked, and I'm supposed to sit there, smile, and be pretty, and be like, oh, nothing's wrong.
24:51No, that's not true. That's not the reality of things. That's not my life.
24:57And I'm tired of shrinking and minimizing myself for people that do not value who I am as a person.
25:08I don't know.
25:10So what?
25:10Is everything that ever came out of your mouth 100% factual?
25:14You're welcome to do whatever you want. I want to fight for this.
25:17You don't want to fight for this. You want to fight me.
25:18No, I want my family, and I want you.
25:22I don't think the sky's blue today. I think it's...
25:24No, it's definitely blue.
25:25I think it's yellow.
25:26That's blue.
25:27You're not going to blind me back to me?
25:29Not about something that's clearly wrong.
25:31Oh, like you're cheating?
25:34Tread lightly.
25:35Veronica.
25:36Tread lightly.
25:37Veronica, it's good stuff.
25:38If you guys could step out, that would be great.
25:40Okay, we're just coming to see if I know you guys are here.
25:44Veronica, I don't want...
25:45Okay, we'll do when she's sleazy.
25:46This is a conversation a child shouldn't be involved in.
25:48Okay.
25:50All right, we'll step out.
25:51We'll be back later.
25:52Okay.
25:56All right, let's go for a walk.
25:59Oh, God.
26:00No one talked to people like that.
26:03My family doesn't have anything to do with mine and your relationship.
26:07We want everyone...
26:08Oh, my gosh.
26:08They're not doing anything.
26:10They're just lovely.
26:12Come on.
26:13And my dad doesn't show...
26:13Your mom wanted me to put you on the title of the house.
26:15We're not married.
26:16I'm not a plath.
26:17What is what my mom wants to affect me and you?
26:20Your family wants to use me.
26:23You guys all call me a liar and I'm making up.
26:25Not you lied or you're exaggerating that.
26:31It's a character mark.
26:33I don't think my family's trying to mark your character at all.
26:35I don't really know how to take all this because it's so out of the blue, but I think I might need an apology.
26:41A written apology.
26:41Or I can move on.
26:42A written apology.
26:44And in person.
26:45Yes.
26:46I'm trying to talk to you and understand and work it through.
26:49I'm speaking in English.
26:51Do I go for a walk?
26:52Yeah, let's go for a walk.
26:55Why do you call us emotionally unintelligent?
26:56Because we don't see things the way you see them?
26:58You're not emotionally intelligent.
27:00You're talking so far down to me.
27:02I know.
27:03I need to get on your level.
27:06So you guys understand me.
27:07Why do you look at me like I am so far below you?
27:10Emotionally intelligent, you are.
27:11I've been telling you for months how I feel, but you don't listen.
27:16And I've been trying to help fix things.
27:18Talking to my family.
27:20And what have they done?
27:22I wrote you a letter.
27:24Oh my gosh, this letter.
27:25You think it would be the Holy Bible or the Ten Commandments of 2024?
27:30No, I think it was an attempt.
27:31You know it wasn't a good letter.
27:32Yes or no?
27:33I thought it was.
27:33Is it a good apology?
27:34Yes or no?
27:36Veronica.
27:36Yes or no?
27:37Then yes, I think it was a good apology.
27:39We're a family who loves each other.
27:43We have problems.
27:44Yes, you love each other more than anybody else.
27:47Well, of course we do.
27:48We're family.
27:48We were the only friends.
27:49Oh, but Mariah didn't lie about Ethan's wife and make their relationship harder?
27:52She did.
27:53I think everyone knows that.
27:54Look what's happening.
27:57History repeats itself.
27:58I don't think you and Olivia are exactly alike.
28:01We're not, but we're getting the same treatment.
28:05To be honest with you, I'm going to tell you something.
28:07I've been talking to her for months.
28:08I know everything.
28:15I've been talking to her for months.
28:17I know everything.
28:18Everybody told me the bad guy was Olivia.
28:21She's the only one that's looked out for me.
28:25Veronica just told me that she's been in contact with Olivia for months now.
28:30To not tell me isn't good for us.
28:33Like if she respected me or she respected my opinions, then she would have at least communicated,
28:39got my input on talking to someone who is no longer in my family, who doesn't really like
28:46my family, put it that way.
28:47Then why don't you do it?
29:16I told you I will.
29:19Grow a pair.
29:23I think this is the most I've been yelled at and like talked down to, talked over, talked
29:28to every which way in my whole life.
29:30We've had fights before.
29:32We've been through a lot.
29:34But as far as this level of steam that she's blowing is new.
29:41It's hard to stay calm.
29:42It's hard to not walk away.
29:43It's just tough.
29:43But, I don't know, I feel like she wants me to get really mad at her as well.
29:48I don't want to do that.
29:50I want nothing more than to fix this at the end of it.
29:54I just wish you cared half as much as I did.
29:56I want a man to stick up for me.
29:58I shouldn't have to tell you how to treat me.
30:00I shouldn't have to tell you how to love me.
30:02You should just do it.
30:03I'm just, I'm trying to understand why, are we working through this or creating more problems?
30:09I can't keep doing this, so.
30:20I'm going to go over to the other house and just, and just try and find myself again.
30:30Okay.
30:33Okay.
30:33I've been pulling marshmallow out of my hair.
30:51I had so much marshmallow in my hair.
30:54Oh, yeah.
30:55It was terrible.
30:56Imagine.
30:57Me, Mariah, and Barry are going out tonight to toast Mariah moving to Montana and leaving us.
31:05Hey.
31:06Hi.
31:06Hi.
31:07I think I'll get a pino grisio.
31:11I think I'm going to do that tropical sunrise.
31:14Just some hard cider.
31:16Gotcha.
31:16Wow.
31:20So this is the first time I think that I have ordered an alcoholic drink in front of Mariah.
31:27There was a time where I wasn't drinking at all.
31:30You know, I kind of held that posture for a number of years.
31:32I just wanted to set a good example for the children.
31:35And now, you know, a lot of the children are grown up, and I'm showing them I can just, you know, have one here and there,
31:42and it's just all in a social setting that's fun.
31:45How's your drink?
31:47You're drinking it very fast.
31:50Bad day.
31:52Sorry.
31:53Those marshmallows were rough.
31:54That's how I talk to people at bars.
31:55They're drinking, I'm like, bad day.
31:57Marshmallow battle was rough.
32:00Now that a lot of the children are no longer minors, I've become much more flexible.
32:05So I'm enjoying where I'm at now and more at ease with things.
32:09So do you like seltzers?
32:11Are you a wine?
32:12It's fine.
32:12What are we doing these days?
32:14I'll have one of these once in a while, but just one usually.
32:18This is the first time that I've gone out to a bar and had a drink with my dad.
32:22That's for sure.
32:23He's just stepping out of his shell a little bit.
32:26I definitely want him to, like, let loose.
32:29Because that's something my dad and I both struggle with.
32:31We have a really hard time, like, just letting loose and having fun.
32:35Has she told you about Lydia and Zach much?
32:39I know they got engaged.
32:40They just got engaged.
32:42Are you excited?
32:42Yeah.
32:43We're all excited for them.
32:44It's good stuff.
32:45So we get Lydia engaged, but what are you going to do when you're in Montana?
32:51Let's talk about, you're getting a lumberjack.
32:53Uh-uh.
32:54Oh, you don't want a lumberjack?
32:56Not anymore.
32:57She'll be around.
32:58See, Mariah needs time.
32:59Like, maybe 15 years down the road?
33:01We'll get a lumberjack?
33:02No lumberjack.
33:03Maybe a sailor.
33:04No sailors.
33:05I think a sailor would be a little better than a lumberjack.
33:08I see you with a lumberjack in the long run.
33:12Someone who can live off of the land.
33:16That's your dance.
33:18That's your style.
33:19Me?
33:19I can live off the land.
33:20Yeah, so you're going to be a lumberwoman, and then you're going to be a lumber, find
33:23a lumberjack man.
33:27Well, I mean, we covered my love life, I feel like, and we know where I'm at with that,
33:32which is absolutely nowhere.
33:35So now we're flipping it to you.
33:37See, I would like, I mean, I have thought on it a little bit, right?
33:40No, no.
33:40Okay, so, oh wait, he's thought about it, he's thought about it.
33:43We're getting deep, we're getting deep.
33:45No, we're not getting deep.
33:46It's just one aspect, right?
33:47I need, you know, humor.
33:52I want someone who wants to have fun.
33:55You know, traveling, exploring new places.
33:59I like somebody who likes to be physically active, right?
34:03That's a big priority for me, right?
34:05Especially going into those years up ahead, that they call the golden years.
34:09And I'm kind of serious at times.
34:12And, you know, as I age, I just want to laugh more.
34:16I want to laugh more.
34:18Are you having fun with us?
34:20Well, you guys are a wonderful, fun time.
34:23Oh, we know.
34:24I know.
34:25You know, how much do I think about what would it be like to go on dates and get to meet somebody?
34:30I maybe commit 10% of my time to thinking like that.
34:33I just, I'm not there yet.
34:36That'll happen at some point, but it's still future, like months away.
34:41Kim is not affecting why I'm not dating.
34:44There's just so many other things, right?
34:47The girls being a big one, just focusing on them, and then just enjoying being single
34:54and the flexibility that it has brought into my life.
34:58Just do what I want to do.
35:00Well, this is our first drink together, and we haven't even cheersed to the best dad ever
35:05and the best friend ever.
35:06Oh, you're very sweet.
35:10Oh, and one more toast.
35:11Cheers to Montana.
35:12May Mariah not get frostbite.
35:15His life check, too.
35:17May the Lord protect his ears.
35:22Veronica calls me a spineless worm and all this stuff sometimes.
35:26I wanted to let you know that she did reach out to Olivia.
35:36Do you need more pickets?
35:54Yeah, I need some more pickets if you don't join.
35:55Okay.
35:56Yep.
35:57So I'm at one of my job sites.
35:58I got this fence I'm putting up for a friend of a friend.
36:03Ethan's in town, Amber's in town, and I feel kind of bad because, you know, I brought him
36:07to town.
36:08I want Ethan and Amber to have a good time.
36:10But instead, Veronica and I got in a fight.
36:12I don't know what to say.
36:13I don't know what to do.
36:14I don't know what to even think at this point.
36:17I don't know how to make it better.
36:19Do you want to dig?
36:19Yeah.
36:23We're out of roots.
36:24Oh, that's good.
36:25So it should be smooth sailing from now on.
36:27There you go.
36:28After Veronica and Micah fought for a while, there was no real resolve that I saw.
36:35So me and Amber just got her stuff and we went and got a hotel room.
36:39I feel kind of bad that you guys are down here and all this kind of came out of nowhere.
36:44Oh, it's okay.
36:45I don't understand it.
36:47But this is what it is.
36:49I got up before the sun came up, you know, told Veronica I loved her this morning, kissed
36:55her goodbye.
36:56She was still sleeping.
36:57A couple hours later, I called Veronica and was like, hey, what's the plan for today?
37:02And she just keeps going at it.
37:05She really, really chewed me out.
37:06So I know she's hurting.
37:07I want to be there for her and I want things to work out.
37:09But things are looking bleak.
37:12It's hard.
37:12I don't know what to do.
37:14I don't know.
37:15I feel like I'm so lost.
37:17I don't know what to do.
37:17I love Veronica and I want nothing more than to make things work.
37:20I see a future with her.
37:21But when we get in a fight, it just becomes, it's hard to talk to her.
37:27I remember when Olivia was in the exact same spot Veronica's in and look at Ethan and Olivia
37:30now.
37:31I don't know what can be done.
37:34I'm 100% caught between my family and my girlfriend.
37:38I was trying not to let this happen.
37:40Every time there was a little fight, I was like talking to Mariah, trying to call my dad,
37:44trying to get everyone together.
37:46I had high hopes that when Veronica went up to Georgia with me last, that things would
37:50kind of get resolved.
37:52But what I've come to realize is that when you form an opinion in your brain and you dwell
37:57on it, especially for how many months now, it's hardwired at that point.
38:02Amber, are you okay?
38:03You're interesting.
38:03You're good?
38:04Yep.
38:05You sure?
38:05Yes, I'm positive.
38:07Just confused, a little.
38:11Veronica calls me a spineless worm and all this stuff sometimes.
38:14What, for not doing exactly what she wants when she wants it?
38:19I guess so.
38:21I wanted to let you know that she did reach out to Olivia.
38:25Because she thinks what the family's done to her and they did to Olivia, they have common
38:36ground on and they're in identical shoes.
38:40And I think in talking to Olivia now, that makes her not like my family even more.
38:47I'm like, why didn't you tell me all this first off?
38:49Why is Olivia coming back in the picture?
38:51I didn't want that because I know that's your past.
38:57That's you.
38:57That's not right.
38:57I do not want to meddle in that.
39:00That is not right.
39:01I was completely shocked.
39:03Veronica talking to Olivia does make me angry, makes me frustrated.
39:06That kind of seals the deal with me for Veronica because she had no intention of telling me
39:10she wasn't going to.
39:12Veronica's trying to look for validation in someone else that she feels like has also
39:17been wronged by my family or has issues with my family.
39:21So the only thing Veronica's doing is trying to justify her own actions instead of trying
39:27to make things right with my family.
39:29I don't know what it is.
39:32I mean, is our family that messed up?
39:34Do we really make people feel that way?
39:37No.
39:39Tegan, she gets along just fine.
39:42Katelyn, she gets along just fine.
39:45It depends on the people.
39:47She always kind of threatens we should just, we're done.
39:49Anytime there's an argument and she doesn't think I'm doing stuff, she always says, we're
39:54done.
39:54Every fight, she's like, just leave.
39:57That's not good, Micah.
39:58I don't want to chicken out.
39:59I feel like I owe her everything and I love her.
40:04It's tough because I don't want to, I hate to say, meddle in their relationship, but
40:10at the same time, it's like, I don't know, buddy, there's a lot of red flags here.
40:15But she actually does a lot of what she accuses other people of doing.
40:19And I think that's why she, she's so demanding over someone to back her when she's right
40:24and wrong, because she knows she's wrong a lot, but she doesn't want to look a fool.
40:29Well, I've been wanting you guys to work out for the longest time, but I think you've given
40:33it a good shot.
40:35I had no idea this is what I was walking into when I came down here.
40:39Yeah, I feel bad.
40:41I feel really bad for you because I'm leaving tomorrow.
40:43I don't have to stick around for this drama.
40:46Well, I mean, it always gets better when my family's not around.
40:49My family's the problem.
40:52To her.
40:53Ethan has a lot of great insight.
40:57He went through, as he puts it, hell.
41:01And I don't, I don't want to do that.
41:03I don't want to put Veronica through that either.
41:05I want, I want Veronica to be with someone who loves her the way that she needs to be loved.
41:12If I can't do that, then maybe we're not for each other.
41:19Whatever happens, we'll be here for you.
41:23We've got a lot of dresses to try on already.
41:31Oh my God.
41:32I mean, I can see myself getting married someday.
41:34Of course, I'm not in a rush.
41:36Like some people.
41:41Let's go.
41:43I got some drip going on.
41:45Oh, dripping.
41:47I feel like Barry wants to be the fun, approving dad.
41:52Oh boy.
41:53He doesn't want to be the mean dad that's asking hard questions.
41:56Bring on the grandchildren.
42:00Do you guys want to see Teagan?
42:02What?
42:03Why am I naked?
42:05Because I like it that way.
42:07I don't think it's normal to look up your brother's girlfriend's naked photos.
42:11He'll end up in bed with her.
42:12You're not seeing her ever again.
42:14Ever.
42:14What?
42:15I'm not sitting there.
42:18Sitting where?
42:19With Ethan Teagan.
42:21Veronica's become quite a little demon.
42:23I am really mad because Veronica lied.
42:27I despise her with the fury of a thousand suns.
42:31We all feel pressured into having to accept somebody that we don't know.
42:36Everything is a mess.
42:37Mom's uncomfortable.
42:38Ethan's uncomfortable.
42:39Because we don't have time to get to know him.
42:41Don't know who you're messing with.
42:43A lot of pent-up emotions and stuff that hasn't been expressed.
42:47The wedding was very peaceful.
42:49I didn't feel like there was any drama.
42:52So I got a couple stitches last night.
42:54Everything has all come to a head.
42:56Why are you here?
42:57Because I'm here for Micah and Lydia.
42:58You have a problem with everyone.
43:01You have attacked every one of us.
43:03Every single person here.
43:03Amber, Kaylin, Isaac, my mom, Ethan, Teagan.
43:06I have yelled at me.
43:07Even people that are not here.
43:10Either I strictly choose her over my family.
43:13Or I just cut ties.
43:17I think we need to leave.
43:19I was 100% on your side until this morning when I found out you were calling me names behind my back.
43:25Let's just say if they keep with me, more bombs drop.
43:29Don't know who you're messing with.
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