00:00Go. I don't think you're fighting Apple. The gentleman from Wisconsin is recognized for five
00:03minutes. Professor Kaye, was the Centers for Disease Control correct in 2020 about the handling
00:09of COVID? You know, the chairman laid out all the things that we now know are debunked. Was the
00:15Center for Disease Control correct in how they went about their business? I'm not a scientist,
00:21so I can't speak to that. I mean, I remember the time like we all did, a time of great fear.
00:26Shutting down schools, things like that, that have set kids behind. See, because it's to
00:33represent McClintock's point that wouldn't this administration want to change some people that
00:39you talked about that are in the Department of Health Services? Shouldn't they change them if
00:44they were wrong about really the seminal issue that has come before this generation? Shouldn't
00:50they change those people? Well, that's just not my understanding of why people have been...
00:54Are you familiar, Professor Kaye, with the case Berenson v. Biden, which is a censorship case where
01:01Alex Berenson, a reporter, was deplatformed on Twitter? I'm not familiar with that one.
01:08I would suggest that you take a look at that because the Biden administration weaponized
01:13themselves against Mr. Berenson and stifled his speech on Twitter. What college are you at,
01:20Professor Ettingham? University of California, Irvine.
01:23How many classes are you teaching this semester?
01:26This I teach one class right now.
01:28One class this semester.
01:29Mr. Farage, I want to thank you so much for coming to the great state of Wisconsin, of which
01:34I represent part of it, including Milwaukee. I hope you had a good time there.
01:40I've always had a good time in Milwaukee, no question. Wonderful breweries, friendly people, love it.
01:46You're welcome back anytime. I want to thank the ranking member for giving us a tutorial on free speech.
01:51Mr. Farage, did you instruct anyone on this panel, including the chairman, to instruct us to stifle
02:01the ranking member's speech?
02:04No, absolutely not. Of course not.
02:07Can you comment on the key issue before the far right that we heard about earlier? What is that key
02:14issue in Europe right now that the far right is heavily engaged in?
02:19Well, if you're in the United, I'll speak for the United Kingdom. If you're opposed to illegal
02:27immigration on a mass scale and the huge cost to the taxpayer and the risk to our communities,
02:34then apparently, oh, and if you like the flag, our national flag, then apparently you're far right.
02:40So that illegal immigration issue that was very informative to the election in 2024 in America,
02:47the same thing is happening in Europe? Is that accurate?
02:49It's a very similar argument in many, many ways. And therefore, the definition of far right,
02:54I think now applies to about two-thirds of the British population.
02:57So I think about someone who's very famous from your country, Ms. J.K. Rowling, who wrote one of
03:03the finest series of books, the Harry Potter series that has ever been in print, who I believe is
03:09self-defined as a liberal, as we call them in America. Hasn't she even been threatened for a
03:16position she's taken in regards to transgenderism?
03:19Yes, she very much comes from a liberal wing of politics, historically, but she's taken the view
03:24that women should be safe in women's spaces. That means changing rooms, et cetera. That's all
03:32she said. And by the way, that's something that our Supreme Court recently actually did back up,
03:37the fact that there are fundamental differences. And this is not to launch an attack on anyone that's
03:41trans, just to bring some common sense in. And she has faced cancel culture and abuse on a huge scale.
03:47I would just, one other comment in regards to the ranking member's opening statement.
03:55He was saying that we are stifling speech here in America, including PBS, by defunding them.
04:02I would suggest that the ranking member look at the news that came out in the past week. It is very
04:07good news for PBS, where the Ford Foundation and other foundations have said they're going to put in
04:12tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, to make sure that they stay on the air.
04:17Protecting the American taxpayer, I think that is a great thing that we were able to do with the
04:23one big, beautiful bill. Final question for Mr. Price. How is the problem going to be fixed? And can
04:31America help?
04:34Yes, America can help. The spotlight that has already been shown on the problem by the administration,
04:41by the amazing work that this committee is doing here, is hugely welcomed by those of us who support
04:45the human right to free speech. We have people who are suffering under prosecutions, unjust prosecutions
04:51in Europe right now. I've outlined a lot of them in my written submissions. And it's only because of
04:56the support that's coming from this side of the Atlantic that we're able to see possibly a brighter
05:01future. And we will continue those efforts. Thank you. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
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