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Deadline day reaction with Nick Barnes as Sunderland spend £167.1m during transfer window
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00:00hello welcome along to the row podcast post deadline day show for you here today my name
00:23is james copley and i'm joined by the bbc's nick barnes nick how are you today uh very well very
00:29well good all good was there a busy day yesterday really wasn't it uh it was um not unexpectedly i
00:36think we were um conscious there could have been a couple of signings and quite a bit of movement
00:43out um which is as it panned out um because regis de bris has been saying in his press conferences
00:50the last few weeks that they were still looking for a center half they were still trying to find a
00:54a winger um and obviously with the events of the last few days with mark guiu then the emphasis
01:02turned towards a striker as well so always knew it would be busy um and because of the number of
01:08players they want to try and move on that there'll be movement in that direction as well because the
01:12squad is clearly uh oversized if you if you like with players that are not going to be involved
01:18this season or not involved very much so there was obviously going to be players
01:22players on the move and that's that's how it turned out that guiu one's going to make a great
01:28quiz question isn't it one day i mean he's signed for so the three appearances one goal
01:32um and then he goes back to chelsea it's a strange situation i think christian speakman referenced that
01:39didn't he in his um in his thoughts after giu had left but what has your reading of of that been because
01:45it doesn't harm them do chelsea a favor does it in the transfer market because they've got
01:51so many good players and christian speakman touched on a decent relationship between the two clubs but
01:56it feels a little bit to me like sunderland had a little look at them were prepared to keep him but
02:01once the robbie deal was there to be done they were they were quite happy to let go when the finances
02:07were right uh it's it is a strange one but i mean the thing the thing about it all was that
02:12sunderland always held all the cards that they didn't have to send giu back i mean as part of
02:17those season-long loans once you once you've gone you've gone i mean that's part of the reason i think
02:23for um clubs charging the fees they do for you know the loan fee but technically in a strange way
02:31you're buying the player but but albeit borrowing the player but so sunderland had had the cards he was
02:38their player but as you touched on just before chelsea and sunderland have a good relationship
02:43so i think in in in um view of the fact that they probably thought they were going to get
02:50uh brian robbie over the line um and that meant that they had a player on board who's actually theirs
02:57they were buying him was in one sense an upgrade on on having the loan of gu you know the difference in
03:06experiences is important i think as well games inexperienced albeit highly thought of whereas
03:11robbie is his experience he's a dutch international albeit only eight caps but nonetheless he's still a
03:18dutch international and he he becomes sunderland's player so i think all things considered gu hasn't had a
03:25great deal of game time in the three three games that he he was here one game against huddersfield
03:31lower league opposition uh with all due respect and a couple of substitute appearances in in the
03:37premier league where you know his his impact was sort of negligible in fairness so i think sunderland
03:42you know looked at it in the round and thought well you know let's keep our relationship with
03:47chelsea suite we've got a player coming in if that gets over the line which it did
03:52um and so they allowed gu to go back to chelsea so i think all things considered um it was the
03:59most sensible thing to do pragmatic and as i said keeps alive that relationship with chelsea
04:04yeah it seems to have worked out well in that regard there was a lot of talk
04:09barnes coming into the transfer window deadline about john lukini that didn't end up going through
04:16in the end but sunderland did sign a defender i'm going to try and get the pronunciation right here
04:21is it gertruder uh you know as much as i do i've seen a couple of pronunciations uh gears truder
04:29gears crowder um yeah i until i think we speak to the player himself i mean i think
04:36as much as we can try and tackle the surname the christian name's got as much difficulty as
04:41the surname so yeah i'm not sure how you pronounce that either
04:45just as much as i was i was laughing the other day when um we spoke to mcquayley after the
04:51huddersfield time game and you asked him how he pronounced his name and he gave you three different
04:55three different ways of doing it yeah we're still a lot of convinced that we know the actual
04:59pronunciation but i'm going with mcquayley on that one as far as i'm concerned when i said
05:04mcquayley he said yes that's that's good enough for me yeah absolutely anyway sunderland did get a
05:10a defender over the line he can play fullback he can play in the middle sunderland wanted a
05:16an out and out set the back that doesn't appear to have happened but they do have a lot of
05:19versatile players there now we saw that new center back partnership against brentford didn't we that
05:24did quite well with mcquayley and aldoretti so sullen have options there it feels without having secured
05:30the number one target yeah they have and also i think you know they've got rinaldo who can play as a
05:35center back as well which he's done in in pre-season and against west ham so you know that
05:41um if push comes to shove if they if they are struggling for numbers they've got players that can
05:47slot into those roles um you know they've got musuaku who can play left back if rinaldo has to
05:53play in the middle you've got mcquayley now who can play right back center back um the new lad um who
06:01could who can obviously again is is versatile um i think the in in the ideal world aldoretti and
06:09ballard are going to be the first choice center backs if ballard can stay fit aldoretti likewise
06:15um then they've got the you know the the balance is that that's what they're looking at i think that
06:20also impacts later in the season the african cup of nations the the fact that aldoretti's and ballard
06:27will stay you know they're not going anywhere because you know their nationalities so there is
06:32some sort of stability across the back four with you know injuries permitting um so i think you know
06:38they've no doubt looked at that as well but um look numbers for in terms of defenders i mean jensen
06:45seal's gone out on loan but i think that was always going to be the case if they got another uh experienced
06:51defender in um because seal's game time would be so limited and and he needs to develop so that that's
06:57a good move for him but essentially now the window's shut that they've got you know good cover across the
07:04back four and i think with the way that the team is set up now in the premier league that is going to
07:09be there that's the sort of fulcrum of their success it's it's to not concede goals and catch teams on
07:15their counter-attack so they've got players now in place and they've got cover for all of them so i
07:21think that you know that's been quite clever quite astute to get those those signings over the line
07:28and as well as the the new lads barnes there's also lugo nine to come back from injury just signed
07:32a new year a new two-year deal agi alisi as well who's very injury prone but a player that i really
07:38really like if he could stay fit i think he could potentially be a a premier league player one day if
07:42you've got to run a game so it does feel like there's a a lot of a lot of cover there with the
07:46caveat that we don't know how those those two names mentioned lugo nine and agi will will adapt to
07:52premier in football or how much they'll even play well yeah that's the thing how much will they play
07:57i mean agi um probably buying his own own admission and it's not necessarily going to get a lot of game time
08:06um if he hadn't been injured there's maybe a fair chance he'd have gone out on loan um luco nine he
08:15will be um i think as ever not much game time but instrumental in the dressing room in the dressing
08:21room that's where you know he has his influence these days um at some point i'm i suspect he'll come
08:28on in a game um it will give him you know the opportunity to say he's played premier league football
08:34um but he's i think will always be seen as a valued member of the squad just because the impact he has
08:40as an individual in terms of leadership so um they've all i think in one way or another they
08:46will all have their parts to play i mean there will be i think possibly and this might still change
08:52some movement in terms of pervader and bar and those players that they're on the periphery they're
08:59they're the difficult ones because they're not going to be involved in the first team squad
09:03very little involvement football wise um and you don't really want them sitting around the club
09:10um twiddling their thumbs but as i say that the various windows are still open so there might be
09:14opportunities to to move them on but um we'll we'll watch what unfolds over the next few days in
09:21in regards of them yeah i believe the mexican transfer window is still open if we fancy doing
09:27our when you found brothers and sisters a favor over there
09:34it is bertrand triore barnsey coming in 2.5 million one-year contract with the club option for another
09:41year 29 years old a lot of experience obviously dangerous attacker we've we've seen bits and pieces
09:47of him over the years feels to me like a smart bit of business relatively low fee there's no sort
09:53of massive financial commitment and if he turns out to be good and contributes um that's a good thing
09:58he's he's good cover isn't he for a dingrat alby and i think with the broby signing as well barnsey
10:04as a as a striker signals that perhaps the breeze could use my ender on the right if if needed obviously
10:10we know wilson isedo can then be deputized on the left although not always ideal to have him starting
10:15there so again like in defense i feel like there's good options all around the pitch without having
10:22to see the new lads play of course but on paper i'm quite comfortable with where we're at yeah i think
10:28the um the winger situation was always one they needed to get sorted um with all due respect to
10:34talby i don't think he's necessarily um while he's done well he's and he's he's got the shirt at the
10:40moment um there's no pressure on him in in one sense because there's no competition for the talby's
10:47position on the right so i think it's good to get someone in who offers them another option uh in that
10:53respect uh look yeah you said they can switch things around they showed at the weekend the fey
10:58can come and play on the left um a dingra can doubtless play both wings mayenda can play right so
11:05they've got those options but i think to have the extra body in the building with the experience that
11:10traori's got you know considerable premier league experience as well as the you know playing abroad
11:15um that is a very very good signing i'm you know looking forward to seeing him but i think it i think
11:22it was something that uh they needed that it was the that was the the slot they needed to fill as much
11:28as they needed a striker um you know everyone says oh you need to get another striker in the building
11:33um i think the right winger was um was important as well for the balance of the squad and and going
11:40forwards um when they do lose players to the african cup nations and and injuries and so on that that
11:47that you know what basing the the tactics so heavily on the wings and trying to get the ball into
11:54the front the front man to have a lack of bodies in that respect i think it's always a little bit of a
11:59worry so very very good signing in to my mind yeah that meant though that patrick roberts left on a
12:06season-long loan to birmingham city i think a lot of sutherland fans are a little bit good about this
12:11just because of the contribution he's made we we should point out a brilliant professional highly
12:16regarded by everybody at the club a really good and honest interviewee as well bansy which for us makes
12:22all the difference because sometimes you can you can um you can cringe when you get certain players put up
12:28because of the the lack of lack of getting anything out of them but patrick roberts was always was
12:32always quite the opposite and just a really really nice lad wasn't he and came to sutherland with his
12:38career sort of on the rocks a little bit and god he's he's really turned it round and i think testament
12:43to him and his character as well is that he just wanted to play football and and didn't see himself
12:48playing football at sutherland this summer i think he was sort of told by the club and and decided the
12:53best thing for him to do was to go out and earn his money elsewhere which i have a huge amount of
12:57respectful yeah absolutely echo everything you said there 100 and i'm sorry to see him go he's a
13:04lovely guy he's very humble um as you mentioned when you're interviewing him he's very honest about his
13:10own um performances um and he will happily talk to and be honest about him and where he's at and how
13:18he's playing um and he's been a you know a fantastic addition to the club since he arrived we all remember
13:24that uh fantastic goal at hillsborough um he's been on that journey from from league one through to the
13:31premier league played in the premier league again just the other week at burnley um but you know as
13:38you say ultimately he's still at a stage in his career where he he needs to play football i think on
13:43a regular basis and um that clearly wasn't going to happen this season at sunderland and he's going to a
13:49club which is on the up which could well be challenging for promotion again this season to
13:55where the head coach is someone he knows because he was at celtic with him so um hopefully you know
14:01he will uh get game time um he'll enjoy his football uh and as you say what a lovely lovely guy uh and i know
14:10from what i've read on social media um how many people are you know um sorry to see him go um and
14:19the influence and the effect he had uh when he was here yeah really really nice guy so i'm wishing him
14:24all the all the very best yeah me too and it just speaks i guess to the ruthless nature of football
14:30doesn't it we had it before maybe he's with like the lyndon gooch danny bath when they were moved on
14:35um it's it's hard to take sometimes isn't it from a support perspective yeah i think the lyndon gooch
14:40is a good example you know a player who didn't want to go um didn't have a good time at stoke
14:45wasn't very happy there um but now has been given a new lease of life at huddersfield told by the
14:51manager there come come here and reignite your love of football enjoy yourself again um which is
14:58brilliant which is brilliant because lyndon again is like patrick roberts so well liked uh such a
15:04humble guy um so i think you know football is is brutal we know that and you know the nature of
15:12you only have to look at the the um uh i was thinking the other morning about you know certain
15:18players who who um sort of get shifted from here to there and everywhere on loan and never really get
15:26put down any routes he was he was sent out on loan i looked at this ops day i think it was six or
15:31seven times by manchester city and he wasn't happy i mean you know in himself he felt um unsettled if
15:41you like and and for patrick roberts sunderland gave him that make gave him a family if you like
15:46um so i think you know it's it's it it is difficult for players sometimes but it's great when you hear
15:52the stories like lyndon gooch enjoying his football again hopefully patrick roberts will enjoy his football
15:57at birmingham uh and who knows what what will happen in in the future down the line but um
16:03yeah uh it's you know i think the other one was no huggins going to wickham um i think it's a great
16:09move for him because he will get football again on a regular basis which he needs um and with a coach
16:15that he knows and uh at a good football club so um fingers crossed for nile huggins again you know i
16:21think that's another good deal because clearly with the players they've been bringing in huggins was going
16:26to be a way down the pocket pecking order yeah nile huggins i think has got all the talent in the
16:30world hasn't he it would just be great similar to agilisi if we could get a run of games i guess
16:35the other headline departure of barnes eagles alan brown to middlesbrough which i think is just a
16:40a transfer that makes a lot of sense i think he's a weird one isn't he alan brown because he was the
16:44right player at the right time but unfortunately due to those injuries it just didn't work out did it
16:49great move for him i mean i mean he got promoted so you could say yeah yeah i mean didn't probably
16:57get as much football as he hoped to have got but um this is a good move for him he's not again going
17:03to get much game time uh at sunderland but he's settled in the northeast with his family middlesbrough
17:09are absolutely perfect for him um especially with you know the start of the season that they've made
17:15so pleased for him um that that again is a you know a sensible move he gets football he doesn't
17:21have to up sticks and move um middlesbrough get a good player and he's playing at a you know a high
17:28level and again like patrick roberts he could well find himself involved in a promotion campaign
17:33again so you know that all round um ticks all the boxes that'd be interesting wouldn't it if they
17:39met on opposite sides at wendley yes that wouldn't be a good story uh 15 players brought in
17:45to sutherland during the uh transfer window as a whole i'll just go through them there was
17:49alderete ranildo jacca edingra talbi robin ruffes michele masuaku habib diara no sadiki mark
17:56guillow although he ended up going back endell affair traore broby and gertruda if i said to you
18:03barnsey that all of this would happen we'd sign granite shaka to be 150 million pounds spent after
18:08tommy watson's goal at wembley i'm not sure i would have believed what i was saying to you and i don't
18:13think you would have believed what i was saying to you either it's been incredible hasn't it it has
18:18i'm not even sure register brice would believe it either he was asked that question last week and i
18:23think he he almost admitted that yeah it's he's living in a bit of a dream world because he didn't
18:29necessarily expect the club to um spend in the in the manner in which they have or bring in the numbers
18:36that they have i mean it's a whole new team isn't it effectively um and all credit to the one or two that
18:42are still um in the squad from last season and they're having an impact wilson isidor enzo lefay trey
18:51hume you know they've all had a part to play mayenda have all had their parts to play in in in the season
18:59so far so it you know that what register brice and all credit to him for the start that they've made
19:05what he has done has got all these new players in but seems to have created a good team with a good
19:10team spirit not an easy thing to do so a lot of credit has to go to him and his coaching staff
19:16for uh affecting that so early and i think that was another key thing about the transfer window they
19:22got a lot of the business done early in the window which was you know which was important i think to
19:27build the foundations for that that team that they are seen they seem to be um blending and merging
19:34together now into what will hopefully be a a team that stays in the premier league and the statistic
19:39that simon pride gave us yesterday was that um no team who had eight points after five games has been
19:47relegated so sundland are well on course with crystal palace and aston villa coming up two teams at the
19:53moment who seem to be in transition to to achieve that which which would be incredible and it does
20:00feel like a hugely exciting time doesn't it i mean someone's promotion from the championship to the
20:06premier league it just seems to have triggered a different level of operation and thinking and
20:10it's been fantastic to see not only in terms of on the field and the level of sign-ins but just in
20:15general you know the academy of lights renovations stadium of light changes all of this sort of stuff it
20:21feels like a premier league club again or like it's building towards becoming a premier club well
20:26what i also thought about over the weekend is that they haven't lost sight of who they are you know
20:31we still um the the players are still happy in doing interviews and very approachable um regis
20:39likewise um there's there's not a feeling which which can happen so easily in the premier league and
20:45have seen it happen before um when some of them were there last time you can get an us and them
20:51atmosphere um and lose sight of you know what got you there in the first place and how important
20:57a couple of wins a couple of wins helps doesn't it yeah it does i mean of course it does and but i
21:01think it's been um regis debris has been quite um canny in in sort of highlighting how much how
21:09important the fans have been so far this season as well and the atmosphere at the stadium of light
21:14um and the away support because you know that that is fundamentally you know look look at the support at
21:20the end of last season the stadium was absolutely humming you know it was fantastic i mean and that
21:25is part of the that's one reason some of the here that's why you know that they're up they have an
21:30enormous part to play and i think it's very very important the film that the club doesn't lose that
21:36disconnect between the fans and and the players and the playing side um because once that happens i think
21:43it's a slippery slope um and you you slide into what happened the last time out with sunderland
21:50players that really have no um sort of affiliation to sunderland they were just here for the money
21:57and now you get a sense the players are here because they want to be here they want to be part of
22:02something and they're embracing the project and inverted commerce so long may that last because as i say if
22:10it if it if it if it if it doesn't last it fragments and you you get in you you find yourself in a um
22:18an awkward situation where the club becomes i think again a little bit of uh
22:24too big and and not in tune with the with its community if you like and it is very rare to sort of
22:32feel this way isn't it i'll use la bruce's word connection because there is a connection that feels
22:38like between players fans players hierarchy hierarchy fans and i think once you get that
22:44sort of golden triangle it is really powerful and really important you've been doing this job a long
22:49time but to me as a as a supporter i don't really feel like there's been this sort of momentum really
22:59in my lifetime other than really the read years of which i was a bit too young to to remember and
23:06just the sequence really of of the playoffs wembley and then these two open and home premier league
23:12games i know they were poor against burnley away but they've been incredible the crowds have been
23:16incredible that the late drama the till the end slogan it feels like everything's just feeding in
23:21to momentum and i've said it on the podcast before and i've had sundland described to me as an oil
23:28tanker it's really hard to turn around but once you do actually get up motoring it's actually quite
23:33hard to stop and it feels that way at the moment how long that'll last in the premier league i don't
23:37know simply because it's going to be tough you know you play really good teams we're yet to play
23:42liverpool man city john marcel any of those sort of of guys but it feels like there's a lot of credit in
23:48the bank for this group of players and for the ownership at the moment oh yeah absolutely and
23:54you go back to you talk about peter reed in those years they were absolutely fantastic and you and
23:58then you know i came into the club i mean i was here but i was not covering sunday at the time so i
24:04was aware and i actually covered a few sunday games um in in between times um so you know i was very aware
24:11of that sort of um that squad that team peter reed and the blend they had then the other time i
24:17think it it there was a little bit of feeling that it was things were starting to turn around was
24:22ironically with steve bruce um and then going into the to gus boyette and the um the league cup final
24:30that that sort of the the mid um you know 2010 2015 those four or five years we had players like fabio
24:38brini um loric sana bolo zenden um you know a lot of players who they they understood what it was all about
24:46they they bought into the to sunderland and there was a feeling then that the club was actually
24:53you know it was in a position to go places but it actually went it fell apart which was was a great
24:59shame um because they they had the platform to to go on and push on but it just never happened and so
25:06we descended into that um you know 2016 17 and so on um and and we all know about the last eight years
25:14so there have been little chapters and i think this is the start of a new one um completely different
25:21philosophy completely different coaching style completely different uh team uh a completely
25:26different approach if you like but one like the hierarchy is completely different now so very very
25:32different um but that's that's how the premier league has changed i mean we talk about you know
25:38the peter reed years and you you in so many ways you can't compare them to to now because football in
25:44the premier league has changed so drastically and in the eight years that some have been out of the
25:48premier league it's had it markedly changed when we're talking about teams like brentford and
25:53bournemouth and brighton being established premier league clubs um and the models that they all have
26:01um adopted the coaches are all coming down you know the coaches are all young now then by and large i
26:07mean young you know sort of 30 to 40 50 that that you know compared to when you're looking back to your
26:15peter reed you martin o'neil's a dick out for cats you know there's there's a change in the the i mean the
26:20fact that keith andrews is now the head coach at brentford uh right inside culture as well as very
26:25brighton area yeah so and bright area at bournemouth so the whole profile of the clubs has changed the
26:33methodology has changed the um the level of skill i think has changed um the pace the speed of the
26:41football has changed it's a whole new um landscape now the premier league to even eight years ago let
26:48alone 20 25 years ago so this is the start of a new chapter sundown are in it that they you know
26:54they want to stay in it um they've made the what almost the perfect start uh and given themselves
27:00a real platform to to stay there and as someone was we talked about this the weekend that you need
27:07probably what 10 11 wins uh plus a few draws and that will you will be safe well sunderland got two
27:13now uh and i know it doesn't sound a lot but it's the first time since 2001 as well exactly yeah
27:20only the second time they've done it yeah so but you know eight wins can you see something getting
27:25eight wins this season i can i can see them picking up eight wins um so it's you know it's it's it's
27:33within their grasp now and they've got the squad they've got the players they've got the coach uh
27:39they've got the tools if you like to do it now i think the key thing for me is as well is that
27:44given we've played three games have i seen three teams that could potentially be worse than sunderland
27:50and you only need one to be you know worse really i guess and i i think i have to be to be to be honest
27:57so far i know things can change january's can come and form fluctuates but i think there's candidates
28:01that that something could be ahead of uh but i'm hoping so i mean i'm i'm cautious because i think
28:08there's a lot of talk about west ham being in trouble and then they go to nottingham forest and win
28:12three nil so it's it's very difficult at the moment to i think um establish who will struggle
28:20and who won't but uh i think there's a there's a school of thought that crystal palace may have
28:27problems because uh glasner wants to bring in four or five players haven't been able to do that
28:33i mean isn't it a great irony that isak and wissa both go on strike and so on and so on to engineer
28:40moves mark guillet is the ultimate professional has done everything by the book and doesn't get a
28:44move um so all credit to him but unfortunately he'll probably be in the team to face sunderland next
28:51time out um yeah that's a good point you know and then they've got a very good defensive record but
28:57um to try and work out which teams will will will struggle it it's it's a strange one because when we
29:05do our predictions at the beginning of the season i look at the table and i think well i can't actually
29:10nail down which of these teams is going to be in the bottom three i mean if i believe that sunderland
29:16can stay up and i think leeds will probably stay up and i think burnley have got a very good chance of
29:22staying up as well who who else do you look at as as you know brentford i you know a lot of people
29:28thought that brentford might be an option that you know they've got it you've got to beat the teams in and
29:33around you but brentford historically since they came back to the premier league always finished
29:38top half in the premier league so and it's it's peculiar now everyone's got a win in the premier
29:42league now as well yeah um i i say will be a top half they i think they finished 16th one season but
29:48you know nonetheless brentford now they are an established premier league team and um bournemouth
29:54we mentioned brighton we've mentioned i mean wolves has talked about they may struggle and you know
30:00like the fact that they're bottom after three with no points and three defeats possibly suggests they
30:06will be one of the three that go down but it it's it is early so it's it's it's very very difficult to
30:14try and pinpoint which teams are going to be in trouble you've touched on it there but you can
30:18struggle in the premier league and actually still be quite a decent team yeah because the quality is
30:22just insane isn't it yeah i mean it only takes a second to score a goal and sondale have been punished
30:26in that respect a couple of times already yeah this season just uh touch on the brentford game
30:32very quickly bouncy before i let you go but i was i was really pleased with that just because i thought
30:36it was firstly good to bounce back from the the burnley game i thought the intensity returned to
30:41surveillance play i don't think that's any coincidence that it was at the stadium of light
30:44and the fans sort of drove that and i think the players are really starting to feed off that but
30:48it was good i think that someone faced a little bit of adversity they had a good check they had to come
30:52from behind they fell down to a late goal really and it looked i thought it was done when that one
30:57and i wasn't expecting someone to come back but all credit to them they didn't feel sorry for themselves
31:02they did and all of these late winners that suddenly see the score it can't just be coincidence it has to
31:08come down to mentality fitness it keeps happening and happening so i think something is building in that
31:14regard that sort of fosters that belief between the fans and the players that they can they can do it
31:19again so i i was hugely pleased that probably agreed with keith andrews in a sense that a point
31:25would have been a fair result perhaps and then just shaded it um but yeah i was delighted with
31:30that performance of the result um another game it just shows you that one moments in games can be so
31:37uh important in the premier league i'm thinking back to burnley if may ender had scored early on or
31:41talby had scored that game may have been a completely different game um sunderland you know they got a
31:47little bit of luck the offside goal the the penalty miss um you know you you you can sort of have a
31:54feeling that if brentford had been got either of those goals it could have been a different story
31:59they did get a good goal when sunderland switched off and like you i thought that was probably going
32:04to be it um brentford scoring so late and having such a good away record i thought that would be
32:10a one nil brentford win but sunderland's um resolve i i think shown perhaps best by the the winner
32:19came from the fantastic lefay pass on the left wing a moment of you know terrific cross from jacket
32:26and a fantastic header from wilson isidore albeit keller had probably should have done done better with
32:32it but to have that quality going into the 96th minute in the game when lefay and shaka had started
32:40the game uh i just thought there was you know what you say about this team just won't give up it just
32:45keeps going it keeps going it keeps going and the fans the the stadium was full still you know they've
32:52gone one down there's there's 10 minutes to go but the stadium remained full nobody left yeah and it
32:59was full at the end and you know that's again brilliant and that's all part is the change there
33:05um so there is a there's clearly resolving this team and there's clearly determination
33:10um there's still areas i'm i'm sure reggie's the breeze is concerned about um you know the fact that
33:18they they did concede what you know a couple two goals really one that was chalked off but albeit
33:24it was still they were still very open and got caught yeah and the the goal that stood again
33:31too easy far too easy for tiago to get uh the header in that position so there are areas that clearly
33:38they're going to have to address but um what is encouraging is for a team that we thought was
33:44going to struggle to score goals they scored three against west ham they scored two against
33:49brentford um they could have had a couple at burnley so they they have got goals in them at this level
33:55but as you touched on earlier on you know they still got to play liverpool and manchester city and
34:01chelsea yeah there could be a reality check it's about you know as the past has shown us sometimes
34:09you go to one of those and expect nothing and come away with something it
34:14is it has though it can be that quirky sometimes and sunderland often have put in some very good
34:20performances away from home at some of those clubs so um history sometimes weighs heavily on them at
34:26certain places like liverpool yeah but um you know with this team it can only build it's it's self-belief
34:34and its confidence can only grow um you know started on a high that that you know they're not sitting at the
34:40the foot of the table with no points which a lot of people from outside of the area would have
34:45predicted they're sitting in sixth place with six points well which is remarkable it's crazy
34:52i thought you touched on it there but that granite jacker assist i thought that was a really wonderful
34:57moment in a sense where he he receives the ball back from enzo on the fair and a younger player
35:02a more eager player a less experienced player may have whipped that in as quickly as he could
35:06but he just seemed to take his time he knew there was nobody around him he picked the perfect pass
35:11it was so elegant the way he sort of swung his foot round to that ball he he slowed everything down and
35:17made sure the the emphasis was on quality rather than you know getting it into the box as quickly
35:22as possible which a lot of players may have done in the 96 minute a very good word elegant i think yeah
35:27elegant was what it was i mean it was it was a measured um beautiful touch perfect pinpoint onto ec door's
35:35head um yeah it's moments like that isn't it that's when players of his caliber come into their
35:41own that's why they're in the team you know that's why you know you you there's no you know there's no
35:47experiences there's no replacement for experience when you get players like that in the heat of the
35:52moment the pressure's on you're in the 96th minute you you could sit you could have sat back for a
35:57for a point but no they still they were still driving for a winner um and he will be part of that drive
36:03he will be someone who's you know he's he's rallied the troops if you like earlier on with
36:07everything he said about making history and being in it to win and so on and so on um and he's playing
36:14by example if you like and driving everyone on around him well it's been a pleasure thanks for joining
36:20us barnes what have you got coming up over the next couple of days where can we hear from you what
36:24have you got going on uh well we're um talking to christian speakman today uh sort of recap on the
36:30window uh and the way forward total sport of course every night on bbc radio newcastle back
36:37on six o'clock tonight and tomorrow night and friday night um and then uh international break
36:43obviously this weekend back to the the football next week with the build-up to crystal palace
36:51yeah we've got two weeks now to try and find something to talk about i'm sure we'll manage
36:54you know i don't think it's it there's i don't think there's a lack of anything to talk about
36:58at the moment no thanks for joining and thanks to the listener for tuning in you can head over to
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37:09ahead of suddenly next game against crystal palette thank you for joining
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