My Thoughts on DRUGS!

Stefan Molyneux

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00:00:00Hello everybody, Stefan Molyneux from FreedomAid. Look at me, formal voice. It is August the 31st,

00:00:062025, and this is a subscriber-only, donor-only live stream. And of course, thank you all so much

00:00:13for supporting the show and all of that. So, I did check this morning

00:00:18about when I published a show called There's No Such Thing as Mental Illness.

00:00:25And in it, I was basically making the case, and this is not to say that suffering is not real,

00:00:31and of course the suffering is real, but in terms of it being a chemical imbalance and blah, blah,

00:00:36blah, there was no evidence. Now, this is back in 2011. I mean, when did Tom Cruise do his thing?

00:00:43I can't remember. Matt Lauer. I didn't see that till later. But anyway, it was a fairly lengthy,

00:00:48almost 50-minute presentation going through. There's no physical markers anyway. So, there was

00:00:53this guy on Tucker recently, and he was saying he was a, I think he's a doctor or something like

00:01:00that, a psychiatrist, and he was talking about how they're, you know, they can take their spinal

00:01:05fluid from people who are suffering from, say, depression, and they can't find a difference

00:01:10in serotonin between those people and everyone else.

00:01:20And the numbers vary depending on who you're asking, but he was saying like a fifth of Americans

00:01:28are on SSRIs. I know in terms of liberal young women, it's crazy just how high the number is,

00:01:36but yeah, the number of people on SSRIs is absolutely staggering. Absolutely staggering.

00:01:43I genuinely, and the side effects can be brutal. Of course, none of this is medical advice.

00:01:49Talk to your doctor, blah, blah, blah. But I'm just a podcaster, but, you know, I didn't realize.

00:01:55I knew that they kind of hit your sex drive. I didn't know that they actually hit your

00:02:00actual nerve endings, like to the point where you can end up with dead groin. And according

00:02:08to what the doctor said, again, I'm no expert, but it seems like sometimes that doesn't even

00:02:13come back after you've stopped them. And I think it was referred to in the Tucker show

00:02:22as a kind of chemical castration. It's a chemical castration. That is wild. That is wild.

00:02:30And it is beyond appalling. And then, of course, he talks about the benzos. So the benzodiazepines

00:02:39fix your problems right away, but the level of addiction is extraordinarily high. I think that's

00:02:43what Jordan Peterson got addicted to, which, of course, he should have known as a mental health

00:02:49professional. I'm sure he did. But anyway. So the question is, you know, what is really

00:03:00going on?

00:03:01Now, because I'm a responsibility whore, so to speak, that I will always take more responsibility

00:03:13than the situation warrants. Because for me, let's say I say, well, I'm only 50%. I'm only 50%

00:03:23responsible for whatever X, Y, and Z. I'm only 50% responsible. There's a couple of reasons

00:03:29why I don't do that. Number one is that if you aim for 50%, you're probably only going

00:03:33to deliver 25%. Because you don't know what the maximum is, right? You don't know what

00:03:39the maximum is. And so when you say it's 50% of an interminate number, you're just saying,

00:03:46I'm going to deliver less responsibility. I'm going to take less responsibility. But of

00:03:51course, if you say, well, it's 50-50. First of all, it's never 50-50. It's never that even.

00:03:58And secondly, 50-50 of what? 50-50 of what? Like when I'm driving, I just assume that everyone

00:04:07is drunk and texting and playing video games with their feet and enraged and having a fight

00:04:14with their wife or husband or whatever. I just assume that because I don't want to get into

00:04:20an accident and the more I assume that other people are not going to obey. Like if somebody's

00:04:25making a turn signal, I don't assume they're going to turn, like ever.

00:04:32I never, because for me, what is it, waiting an extra five or 10 seconds? But because they could

00:04:36change their mind, they could have just left the turn signal on, they could be 90 years old in

00:04:40Florida or something like that. So I take like 150% responsibility for staying safe while I'm driving.

00:04:47because what would 50-50 even mean? I don't know, but it would mean that I'd be less careful,

00:04:52right? I would be less careful. So when you say, well, I'm only going to aim for

00:04:5850% or even 100%, I aim for 150% because that way, I don't know what the upper bound of my

00:05:05responsibility is because I don't know exactly what I'm capable of. And I also don't know if the other

00:05:10person is an NPC, if the other person is a determinist or something wherein they functionally

00:05:19don't take any responsibility because they're just run by their emotions or they're run by

00:05:23propaganda or they're part of groupthink or crowdthink. They've never had an original thought

00:05:30of their own. So for me, when I say, well, I take 150% responsibility, until proven otherwise,

00:05:39right? Until proven otherwise. But I don't know if I'm dealing with someone who takes any

00:05:43responsibility whatsoever. So if I'm dealing with someone who doesn't take any responsibility,

00:05:47who's just an NPC automaton, a propagandized zombie robot, then they're not going to take any

00:05:55responsibility. So what does it mean to take 50% of responsibility when someone isn't taking

00:06:00any responsibility at all? So 50% is like, you know, when you're young and broke, you and your

00:06:05friends move. When you have to move a lot, you and your friends move. So you both pick up each side of

00:06:10the couch, right? Pick up each side of the couch. Now, I will always aim to pick up the entire couch

00:06:15because A, I get stronger. I exercise that muscle called responsibility. And also because if I'm

00:06:24picking up my side of the couch and the other person doesn't pick up their side of the couch,

00:06:28we're not going anywhere. And I don't know ahead of time how much responsibility people have.

00:06:36I mean, the people who de-platformed me, did they have any moral responsibility? Certainly in an

00:06:46abstract sense, they did. But in terms of practicality, you know, were they threatened?

00:06:50Were they threatened to be fired? Were they threatened by some outside agency? Is there

00:06:56compromise? Or are they just utterly programmed to view that every other position, but the far left

00:07:05is outright Nazi, and they just they have no free will, they have no moral, they don't have any

00:07:09understanding of free speech as a principle, they've never been taught it. And for most of human

00:07:15history, there was no free speech. So it's not exactly like it's an aid to our nature. So did they have

00:07:19any functional responsibility in banning me? Or was it an NPC automatic response, either due to internal

00:07:29propaganda, complete unthinkingness, groupthink, or outside pressure? Well, we certainly know that

00:07:36there was a lot of outside pressure in in these situations or scenarios for sure. So sorry, just a

00:07:45little tickle in my throat here. Let me just not cough in your ear though. Right. So always, always

00:07:59take more responsibility than you think you do, because you don't know how much responsibility

00:08:05you're capable of. I just aim for maximum and then double it or whatever it is, right? Because

00:08:10whatever you pull back on, you're going to end up with less of, right? Now, with regards to SSRIs,

00:08:19of course, the big challenge is that people are unhappy. And why are they unhappy? Well, of course,

00:08:27the traditional answer from religion is you're unhappy because you're sinning.

00:08:32You're unhappy because you're distant from God. You're unhappy because you're living a degenerate

00:08:39lifestyle. You're unhappy because you're a hedonist. You're unhappy because you're living like an animal

00:08:44and that is unfitting for the life of a cognitive creature to live as a sort of base animal. So

00:08:53that was the traditional answer. And even from philosophy, right? From philosophy, reason equals

00:09:01virtue equals happiness. You have to be rational. If you're rational, you can be virtuous. If you're

00:09:04rational and virtuous, the result will be happiness because you're living in alignment with our moral

00:09:09nature as a human being. So a human being is the only moral creatures in the universe that we know of.

00:09:15And to live a life that is most fitting for you, to use a muscle in the right way, to live in a way

00:09:21that is most fitting for you is going to be what brings you the greatest happiness, to live in

00:09:26accordance with your most fundamental nature. And the most fundamental nature as human beings is

00:09:30universalism and virtue, ethics, and so on, which is used to program and control us all the time.

00:09:37And so philosophy, a more ancient philosophy, a religion, and so on, offers you, God, virtue,

00:09:48reason, offers you an answer as to why you're unhappy. You're unhappy because you are not living,

00:09:54assuming you're an adult, right? You're not living a virtuous life. You are being dishonest with

00:09:59yourself. You're being dishonest with others. You are pursuing mere sense pleasures rather than

00:10:05more refined conceptual virtues. You are cowardly in the moral realm, and you are silencing or suppressing

00:10:13yourself for the sake of conforming with bad people, right? That was sort of the traditional

00:10:19answer. That you are vain, that you are greedy, that you cheat people, and you cheat yourself,

00:10:27not just materially, but through lies and other things. And you thirst for the unearned, you thirst

00:10:34for fame rather than virtue, you thirst for money rather than doing good, and so on. And not, you know,

00:10:41fame and making money is not the opposite of virtue and doing good, but to seek for one at the expense

00:10:47of the other. You're a seducer. You lie to women in order to sleep with them, or with women, you lie

00:10:55to men in order to get their resources or something else. So why are you unhappy? Because you are a

00:11:03pretender. You are a pretender in that animals just live for the moment and run off chemically

00:11:13programmed preferences and sense data and all of that. They're hungry, they go eat, they want to

00:11:18have sex, they go have sex. And, you know, they have a drive to feed their children biochemically,

00:11:24so they feed their children. So they're just living. And we wouldn't call them hedonists because

00:11:29they have no particular other option, right? Like there's some single-celled organism that wraps

00:11:34itself around food and then divides. We would not say that it's just greedy and insensate and living

00:11:39like an animal. It's like, it's a component of an animal. And so human beings are hedonists not

00:11:47because they pursue pleasures only. That's not why they're hedonists. Because animals pursue pleasure,

00:11:55we wouldn't call the animals a hedonist. We wouldn't call a rabbit a bunny whore because it

00:12:01has sex with a lot of various females or males, I suppose. So a human being is a hedonist

00:12:09because the human being justifies the hedonism according to some larger conceptual standard.

00:12:15human beings, we have an absolute compulsion. You can see this all the time. Like once you see

00:12:34this, I'm telling you, man, you can't unsee it. So beware of the next minute of my speech. But human

00:12:41beings cannot simply act. They must always, always, always justify. Animals don't justify.

00:12:51They just act. A human being is a hedonist not because he pursues pleasure, but because he justifies

00:12:58it according to a universal standard. Even if the person is a nihilist, they justify it by saying,

00:13:06there is no universal standard, right? So human beings will always act in compliance with an

00:13:11abstract they develop. And often what they do is act in a hedonistic manner. The hedonism not being

00:13:18the pursuit of pleasure, excuse me, but the hedonism being the justification of the pursuit of pleasure.

00:13:24You know, effing bitches is what makes an alpha, you know, according to these gross pickup artist

00:13:29guys and all of that. Or for, you know, these rap songs where the women are sort of glorifying,

00:13:35you know, having sex for money and all that kind of stuff. You've got to show the money and

00:13:39all of that. There's a justification. There's an abstract explanation that makes it rational or

00:13:50good or okay or right or in conformance with some abstract standard. So, I mean, you see this when

00:13:59the subject of spanking comes up, people justify it. They don't just say, well, I spank because

00:14:05I'm upset and I could take it out of my kids. No, no, no, no. They don't say that. They can't just

00:14:10act in a violent manner and then just say, well, I just wanted to act in a violent manner. No, no,

00:14:14no, no. It has to be justified. So they have to say, well, spare the rod, spoil the child. And

00:14:19if you beat a child, he shall not die. He shall become virtuous and honor their mother and their

00:14:24father. And I didn't do it in anger. And it spoils kids if you don't. This modern selfish generation,

00:14:29gentle parenting has ruined. So it's, it's, they don't just hit. They justify. And most of what

00:14:39goes on in society is people doing absolutely shitty things and then justifying those things

00:14:45after the fact. And the justification is everywhere. Every time you pick up the newspaper,

00:14:53every time you turn on the TV, propaganda, all of the justify, justify, justify, justify,

00:14:58justify. And it can get pretty dark, right? I mean, the, the grooming child rape scandals

00:15:07erupting in the UK or they've been going on in the UK really since the 1950s. And

00:15:14it's all, it was all justifications. Well, you know, we don't want to focus on the quote Asian men

00:15:23because, because that will inflame racial tensions, have negative output, it'd be racist.

00:15:27So justifications, justifications.

00:15:31It's all, everything that you see is people doing shitty things and then justifying them. And it's a

00:15:37real circle, right? So you do a shitty thing and then you have to justify it.

00:15:41A woman cheats on a man. Well, but he wasn't, uh, he wasn't giving me attention. Uh, I was lonely. Uh,

00:15:49I tried, uh, I tried to keep things going with my boyfriend and my husband, but, but he just wasn't

00:15:53listening. He wasn't available. He was working all the time. I'm lonely. I was sad, blah, blah, blah, right?

00:15:57So

00:15:57that justification just happens all the time, even in divorce, right? You have to say,

00:16:06what's the reason? And the reason is the justification. And when you really see this,

00:16:12that human beings act and then justify their actions according to some universal standard,

00:16:19or even that there is no universal standard, which is itself a universal standard. So human beings act

00:16:25in an impulsive or selfish manner. And it's not selfish until they justify it. Acting in a negative

00:16:30way is not negative until you justify it. Because the justification means that you're going to do it

00:16:35again, right? That's the problem with the justification. The justification guarantees

00:16:41repetition, right? I always said this excuse is always promises of repetition. So the justification

00:16:46is going to cause, it lubricates the re-engagement of the machinery.

00:16:56So a woman cheats or a man cheats and they say, well, my partner was unresponsive and I was lonely

00:17:02and we hadn't had sex for a while and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So all of that happens.

00:17:10And then because they've justified it, it's now going to happen again.

00:17:20So the traditional answer from religion and philosophy is that you are unhappy because you are

00:17:28doing something immoral. And the immorality is not the action. The immorality is the justification.

00:17:35We can't say it's the action because animals act in that. It's what separates human beings from the

00:17:40animals is our capacity to justify in an abstract moral way or an abstract pragmatic way to justify

00:17:48justify what it is that is going on. Even criminals justify their actions or maybe even especially

00:17:55criminals. So the reason I'm saying all this and I, let me just check here and dip in for a sec here.

00:18:01I want to make sure that if people have their calls, okay, nothing yet. Oh, that must be because I'm so

00:18:08gripping. Fair. So, uh, the traditional answer is, uh, you are unhappy, you are unhappy because you are

00:18:18disobeying, uh, virtue, reason, God, uh, and so on, right? You are imperiling your soul. And so the

00:18:26traditional answer to people saying I'm miserable is be better, do good, stop justifying your corruption,

00:18:35stop justifying your immorality, but do good, start doing good, start living for others to some degree,

00:18:42at least, uh, start, stop being, stop being selfish, stop using people, stop dehumanizing others by

00:18:47exploiting them for money or sex or career or something like that. And, uh, be a better person,

00:18:53um, love more, have more integrity, be more honest, stop hanging out with low companions.

00:18:58You know, those are the Hank Sank, the Henry V and Falstaff, you know, he has to leave Falstaff

00:19:05behind in order to be a better person. He has to stop being a hedonist, so to speak.

00:19:11So I'm unhappy. Okay. Be better, but be, be a more moral person, be a better person.

00:19:18But that's, um, you know, that process kind of sucks, right? That process of being a better,

00:19:26becoming a better person. Oh God, it's horrible. It's horrible. I mean, maybe one day I'll go

00:19:38through the whole story. If anyone's interested about my transition from a hypocrite to reasonably

00:19:48virtuous and a complete hypocrite to reasonably virtuous. Um, but it's a, um, it's a horrible

00:19:58process. It is, it really feels like you're dying. Really feels, I mean, I wrote this when

00:20:04I was, I don't know, like 17 or so. Uh, we must bury ourselves in order to be resurrected.

00:20:09And it's like, Oh, that's so cool and edgy. And it's like, Oh, it's a real process, man.

00:20:16There's a reason why there are so many stories about going into death and being resurrected.

00:20:22Like Gandalf goes into death and comes back as Gandalf, the wife, Jesus, of course.

00:20:27And, uh, every, um, tribe has a story of an ancient hero, a great hero who's gone into

00:20:34death, but will return in all his power and his glory in their moment of greatest need

00:20:38and, and all of that. So the idea that you have to die in order to come back to life,

00:20:43if you strike me down, what was it? The, the old cheesy line from Obi-Wan Kenobi, if you

00:20:48strike me down, I shall return a thousand times more powerful than you can even imagine or

00:20:52whatever it is. Right. And so, uh, you go into death and you return with greater power,

00:20:57the death of the ego, the death of vanity, the death of hypocrisy, the death of

00:21:01the death of trying to guide your larger life choices by anything other than moral

00:21:09principles, that the death of that, the death of the animal, the death of self

00:21:12justifications, the death of self sophistry is, uh, I mean, it's funny because when I was

00:21:19going through that process, when I had insomnia, when I was going through therapy, when I was

00:21:23going through that process, it was some of the hardest times I've ever gone through, not

00:21:34the hardest, but some of the hardest times I've ever gone through. And it sucks. And you

00:21:41don't know where you're going to go because for me, the discarding of my false self, the

00:21:47discarding of vanity, the discarding of the vanity of thinking I could just talk people

00:21:54into being better. Those around me, those I grew up with family of origin issues and

00:21:5825 year friendship, uh, issues and so on. And the idea that I should stop talking about principles

00:22:08and actually live them and stop being so vain as to think that I could just talk other people

00:22:12into being better. And as an empiricist, ignoring all of the signs of corruption around me

00:22:18to simply say, I'm going to live virtuously. I'm going to tell the truth. I'm going to be honest.

00:22:25Oh, horrible, horrible, horrible. It's a, it's hell. You die, you go to hell. And if you're lucky,

00:22:33you come back and you get a taste of heaven.

00:22:39Horrible process.

00:22:42Horrible. Now, if I wasn't being, if I hadn't been into philosophy for 10 or 15 years by this

00:22:48point, and I was unhappy and I couldn't sleep and, and so on. And it was a moral revolt.

00:23:01As my therapist said at the time, your unconscious is in full revolt.

00:23:05And, and, and rightly so. Thank you, unconscious. I appreciate it. And

00:23:12if I had not been trained in philosophy and the corruption and falsehood, not of those around me,

00:23:23although there was certainly truth in that, but of myself, the corruption and falsehood of myself,

00:23:28that I'd been pursuing these values for 10 or 15 years without ever actually bringing them to bear in

00:23:33my own life. And that I could not gain the respect of the corrupt ever. But least of all,

00:23:41when I was myself being corrupt, my only talking about virtues rather than actually bringing them

00:23:48to life in, uh, in the world that I lived in and in my relationships. So if I hadn't been trained so

00:23:57much in philosophy, if a doctor had sat across from me, if I went to a doctor and said, you know,

00:24:04I can't sleep, I'm unhappy, blah, blah, blah. And if the doctor had said, oh, well, bro, you just have

00:24:12a chemical imbalance, like this, the chemical imbalance in your, in your brain, your body's not

00:24:16producing enough of this or that. And, you know, we can, we can fix that. I mean, if you had diabetes,

00:24:20you wouldn't feel bad about taking insulin, right? And, and if you had an infection, you wouldn't feel

00:24:26bad about taking antibiotics, right? If that was what was needed. So that's the, right? That's the,

00:24:35I would say the turnoff, but that's the exit ramp, the exit ramp to genuine virtue and honesty with

00:24:41yourself and with others. Letting the chips fall where they may, when you speak your mind.

00:24:48The exit ramp to that is, oh, the chemical imbalance. So everyone looks at the supply

00:24:55of corruption and nobody really looks at the demand for corruption.

00:25:03Central banking allows the population to believe it's getting something for free,

00:25:08right? Because the money is printed or borrowed. And then the government pays for a bunch of stuff

00:25:15and it looks like it's free because it takes, you know, 18 or so months for the inflation to hit.

00:25:21And then people just blame the shopkeepers for raising the prices, right? So it is certainly true

00:25:26that central banking, government control of currency gives people the illusion that they're getting

00:25:31something for free. Because the services and money that is spent by the government

00:25:37is vastly disproportionate to the amount of money being paid in taxes, right? I mean, taxes really

00:25:44are a, um, it's a form of collateral for multiple borrowings, right? Which is why the unfunded

00:25:54liabilities, the deficit and the debt is so high. So money printing, deficit debt, unfunded liabilities.

00:25:59There is this belief that somehow the government is adding value because you pay $10 in taxes and get

00:26:08$30 worth of spending from the government. So it's true. It's certainly true, of course, that central

00:26:14banking gives people the illusion that they're getting something for nothing. But I think the more

00:26:23interesting question doesn't mean it is the more interesting question, just my view, the more

00:26:28interesting question is, is central banking corrupting the people? Or is central banking a reflection

00:26:38of people's desire for easy answers?

00:26:42The problem of the poor is a very deep, old and ancient problem. It has to do with IQ, it has to do

00:26:53with child abuse, it has to do with dysfunctions in the culture, it has to do with government schools,

00:26:58like it's a really big, thorny and complicated problem. It's solved by the non-aggression principle.

00:27:05But getting poor people who may not be that smart to actively engage in the non-aggression principle

00:27:11with regards to their own children is not the simplest thing in the known universe, right?

00:27:15At all.

00:27:17So it's big, deep, meaty and complicated.

00:27:20And it requires the confrontation of some often sinister elements of society, those who are harming

00:27:28children for their own vanity and not just because they get angry and they hit their kids or they get

00:27:32angry and they scream at the kids or they get frustrated and they shake their kids, but also

00:27:36because, you know, they sexually assault, rape and molest their kids and, you know, other really,

00:27:40really dark stuff. So

00:27:41society doesn't want to look at that. And of course, everyone in life has seen some kid who's

00:27:52being harmed and they haven't acted. I myself have been, I've done this. I'm better now, but I've

00:27:58certainly decided to step over that kind of issue for various reasons, which are not justifications,

00:28:04but, and that's mostly in the rear view. But, um, I think if we're honest, we've all seen signs that

00:28:11children are being mistreated and ignored or stepped over those, those issues.

00:28:18So is it that, well, and of course it wasn't like people voted to get central banking in. I get all

00:28:25of that. There's a whole 1930 teen, uh, 1913, uh, Edward Griffin issues, right? Jekyll Island and, uh,

00:28:34and all of that. I get all of that. So it was definitely imposed, but let's say that, uh, someone, uh,

00:28:42drugs you, right? They, they, they put a drug in your drink. The question is, do you come back

00:28:47to be drugged is to be assaulted without a doubt? But do you go back for more? Does it make you

00:28:57addicted? So central banking certainly gives the illusion that people are getting something for

00:29:03nothing. Does that corrupt the people or do the people participate in their own corruption

00:29:07by wanting something for nothing? By not thinking about these things, by being greedy, by giving the

00:29:15kind of strategic inattention to these issues that allows their greed and exploitation of the young,

00:29:20the unborn to flourish. So in the same way, this SSRI is a 20%. It seems, again, it seems impossibly

00:29:27high, but I think this was the number that was floated in the Tucker Carlson interview is

00:29:32a 20% of adults. So a 20% of adults on SSRI is because the industry is corrupt.

00:29:45Or because they greedily want to grab pills to avoid confronting the immoralities in themselves

00:29:56and those around them. I'm not saying everyone who's unhappy is immoral. I get all that. Sometimes

00:30:00you can be unhappy because other people are immoral. And sometimes those other people are in your life

00:30:06and you don't have a choice, right? Obviously, uh, if you're in Ukraine and you get,

00:30:10oh, Russia, you get yanked into a van and sent to the front, you're unhappy. Um, that's not,

00:30:18that's not because you're immoral, right? But, but because you're enslaved and put in grave danger,

00:30:26well, worse than enslaved. So, but a lot of unhappiness comes out of corruption.

00:30:40So if you're unhappy and you go to a doctor and if the doctor says,

00:30:45well, I've, I've met your family and, uh, I don't think they're very good people. Like,

00:30:52I don't think they're very moral people. And yeah, your, your father uses a lot of weed. Your

00:30:57mother is an alcoholic and, uh, it may be that you're unhappy because you're surrounded by severely

00:31:02dysfunctional people. You might want to clean up your relationships before you start taking pills.

00:31:07Oof. You know, it, it is people's resistance truth. Now I don't want to, let's just say,

00:31:17let me just say, I don't want to get into details, but, uh, let's say I knew a woman named Jane and

00:31:24Jane was unhappy and Jane went to the doctor and they ran a bunch of tests and so on and they couldn't

00:31:34find anything wrong with her, like anything. And, uh, Jane also was not a very good person.

00:31:42And the doctor just sort of hinted and said, maybe therapy might be a good idea. Maybe there's

00:31:46something going on mentally. And then she, Jane, just made up Jane, right? Although it's a real

00:31:52person, but it's made up name. This person then was incredibly bitter and angry towards that doctor.

00:31:57And he said, Oh, the doctor said, it's all in your head, baby. And, and the doctor in trying to say

00:32:06to Jane that maybe she was unhappy because she was making bad decisions or had some sort of trauma or,

00:32:13you know, and suggested therapy. I mean, this is, this is a battle, right? This is a real battle.

00:32:17And it is a battle waged between women and doctors in general, women and doctors, women are unhappy.

00:32:25Uh, they can't sleep. They're gaining weight and, and they, they go to the doctor. The doctor runs

00:32:30all the tests he can think of, which is not to call doctors perfect. Of course, right? The doctor

00:32:34runs all the tests he can think of. And then the doctor can't find anything. And the, the, the woman

00:32:46is obviously intense, kind of nuts, talks about terrible stressors in life, fights with her children.

00:32:52Her husband left her and her father is a drunk or whatever. And the doctor at some point tentatively

00:32:58puts forward the proposition that maybe, um, some therapy or stress management might help get to the

00:33:04root of why she feels tired or sick or unwell or whatever it is, right? So massive battle between

00:33:10women and doctors that really nobody talks about that it's called somatization or psychosomatic or

00:33:17whatever it is. When you end up with physical symptoms as a result of a stress or, or dysfunction

00:33:23or corruption or something like that, right? That the, the body manifests the corruption or

00:33:29dysfunction or perhaps even downright evil that's in your life or in your environment or in those

00:33:34around you or maybe even within yourself. And so there's this monster, monstrous battle between

00:33:38usually male doctors and female patients. And if a corrupt female, and again, this is generalities,

00:33:48it happens with males and female doctors too, but in general, if a corrupt female goes to a doctor

00:33:55complaining of physical problems, the doctor can't find anything wrong. Should the doctor suggest

00:33:59therapy, the doctor is at grave risk. I don't know if you've ever, you know, you tell me in the chat

00:34:09if you have, I don't know if you've ever been in a situation where you've tried to get a corrupt

00:34:13person to take responsibility for his or her life, but it is a very perilous thing to do. It is a very

00:34:19perilous thing to do. So

00:34:22the battle is

00:34:26women say

00:34:29I went to doctors

00:34:31they told me it was all in my head

00:34:33it turns out I had a real disease

00:34:36right? That's the

00:34:37female story. I went to doctors

00:34:39they said it was all in my head

00:34:41turns out I had a real disease

00:34:44and

00:34:48for doctors

00:34:49it's like

00:34:50I know this woman is crazy. I know that she's stressed

00:34:54I know that she's, you know, screaming at her children or hitting her children or

00:34:57or, uh, you know, she's whatever, right?

00:35:00Uh, and and so I say I suggest therapy and she just completely blows up at me and

00:35:05you know, it can be let's just say it can lead to some pretty horrible places over time

00:35:10and that's the battle, right? Now don't get me wrong

00:35:18at times

00:35:19women go to doctors

00:35:21it's absolutely true. There are times when women go to doctors

00:35:23and they say

00:35:25I feel unwell

00:35:26the doctors can't find anything

00:35:30the doctors say

00:35:31go to therapy

00:35:32or maybe go to therapy

00:35:34and it turns out the woman is really ill

00:35:36absolutely there's times

00:35:38when that happens

00:35:39but

00:35:43there are also times

00:35:44when a woman says

00:35:46oh, I have

00:35:47I don't know

00:35:47again, none of this is medical knowledge

00:35:49medical advice

00:35:50I don't know anything about these things as a whole

00:35:52but

00:35:52you know, the stuff you hear about fibromyalgia

00:35:54uh, Epstein-Barr

00:35:56chronic fatigue syndrome

00:35:57and so on, right?

00:35:58there are times

00:36:06when women

00:36:08go to doctors

00:36:09and the women are

00:36:11tired, sick, unhappy

00:36:12can't sleep

00:36:13because their conscience is raging at them

00:36:14and they've done some bad things

00:36:15or they're surrounded by bad people

00:36:17or they've made bad decisions

00:36:18or they're overly stressed

00:36:19because of

00:36:20things that they could possibly change

00:36:22and they go to the doctors

00:36:23complaining

00:36:24of

00:36:25a physical ailment

00:36:26the doctors run tests

00:36:28the doctors can't find anything

00:36:31the doctors suggest therapy

00:36:33the woman goes to therapy

00:36:34and gets better

00:36:35that

00:36:36that absolutely happens

00:36:37that absolutely happens

00:36:38again

00:36:38there's no way to know for sure

00:36:40right

00:36:40because

00:36:41a lot of the stuff is kind of anecdotal

00:36:42there's no way to know for sure

00:36:44what is the ratio

00:36:45of women

00:36:46who are

00:36:47genuinely ill

00:36:48the doctors miss it

00:36:49they suggest therapy

00:36:50turns out the woman's really ill

00:36:51it's certainly not obvious

00:36:54I would assume, right?

00:36:54but I don't know what that ratio is

00:36:56I don't know what the ratio is

00:36:58of women who

00:36:59complain about physical ailments

00:37:01and

00:37:02go to the doctors

00:37:06the doctors can't find anything

00:37:07and it turns out that therapy

00:37:09is the answer

00:37:09I don't know the proportion of that either

00:37:12but it ain't zero

00:37:13I'll tell you that

00:37:14I mean just statistically

00:37:15it can't be

00:37:15so

00:37:18when people are unhappy

00:37:22they used to go to the priest

00:37:23and I'm not

00:37:28like

00:37:28not when they've got

00:37:29a big giant goiter

00:37:30hanging out of their neck

00:37:30or they've got some cyst

00:37:32that's becoming

00:37:32inflamed

00:37:33and needs to be lanced

00:37:34or whatever it is

00:37:34right

00:37:34I'm talking about

00:37:35like

00:37:36people who have

00:37:38insomnia

00:37:40you know

00:37:41maybe stress related

00:37:42headaches

00:37:42or

00:37:42hypertension

00:37:44not

00:37:45you know

00:37:46in terms of like

00:37:46emotionality

00:37:47and stuff like that

00:37:48right

00:37:48so

00:37:50it used to be

00:37:51if you were just unhappy

00:37:52but you didn't have any

00:37:53obvious symptoms of illness

00:37:55that you would go to the priest

00:37:57so you

00:37:57maybe you'd even go to a philosopher

00:37:58right

00:37:59I mean I certainly have people

00:38:00who call me

00:38:00and say I'm unhappy

00:38:02and

00:38:02I mean

00:38:05I can't think of a time

00:38:07when someone has called me

00:38:08and I have thousands of examples

00:38:10by now

00:38:10which is actually not a small data set

00:38:12but

00:38:12I can't remember the last time

00:38:14someone called me

00:38:15and said

00:38:15gee Steph

00:38:16I'm really unhappy

00:38:17and

00:38:18there were no moral issues

00:38:20in themselves

00:38:21or those around them

00:38:22and having

00:38:24immoral people

00:38:25or amoral people around you

00:38:26is a moral issue

00:38:27within yourself

00:38:27but it manifests

00:38:28in

00:38:28your social circle

00:38:30right

00:38:30so

00:38:35I think

00:38:39that

00:38:40doctors

00:38:41it's just a guess

00:38:43right

00:38:43I don't know

00:38:43I don't have any data

00:38:44it's just you know

00:38:45I have some

00:38:46personal evidence

00:38:47but anecdotes

00:38:48are not proof

00:38:49the plural

00:38:49anecdote

00:38:49as you know

00:38:50is not data

00:38:50but

00:38:51I think that

00:38:53there's kind of a collusion

00:38:55between the doctors

00:38:57and the patient

00:38:57again

00:38:58just a

00:38:59out of my armpit theory

00:39:00and the collusion

00:39:02goes something like this

00:39:03woman comes in

00:39:04and I'm going to just use

00:39:06the gendered stereotypes here

00:39:07it's not always women

00:39:08a woman comes in

00:39:09she's unhappy

00:39:10a doctor

00:39:12who has

00:39:13experience

00:39:14may

00:39:15think that she has

00:39:16psychological problems

00:39:17he also knows

00:39:21probably based upon

00:39:22bitter experience

00:39:22or conversations

00:39:23with other doctors

00:39:24that if a woman

00:39:25comes in with

00:39:26psychological problems

00:39:27like you run your tests

00:39:28or whatever right

00:39:29and you can't find anything

00:39:30if the woman comes in

00:39:31with psychological problems

00:39:32and you tell the woman

00:39:33she has psychological problems

00:39:35you might be in

00:39:36for a whole world

00:39:37of hurt as a doctor

00:39:39a whole world of hurt

00:39:46that could go on

00:39:47for years and years and years

00:39:48and just make your life

00:39:49kind of unpleasant

00:39:50right

00:39:50so

00:39:51what do you do

00:39:53with the neurotics

00:39:54the neurasthenics

00:39:54the hypochondriacs

00:39:56the somatizing

00:39:57the

00:39:57conversion disorder

00:39:59like what do you do

00:40:00with the patients

00:40:01who come in

00:40:02who are unhappy

00:40:03based upon

00:40:04moral or psychological issues

00:40:06well if you tell them

00:40:09there are moral

00:40:09or psychological issues

00:40:11well they

00:40:17the blowback

00:40:18can be extreme

00:40:20and unpleasant

00:40:20what do you do

00:40:24well

00:40:27in comes a farmer rep

00:40:29right

00:40:30and the farmer rep

00:40:32says

00:40:32oh

00:40:34so

00:40:35here's what you do

00:40:36oh doctor

00:40:37if someone comes in

00:40:38and they're complaining

00:40:39of unhappiness

00:40:39or stress

00:40:41or insomnia

00:40:42or tension

00:40:42or anxiety

00:40:43or whatever it is

00:40:44and

00:40:45there's nothing

00:40:49physically wrong

00:40:50with them

00:40:50well

00:40:52they have a chemical

00:40:53imbalance

00:40:54and you can fix it

00:40:55with a pill

00:40:55so

00:41:02the patient

00:41:03being told

00:41:04you have a chemical

00:41:05imbalance

00:41:05you can fix it

00:41:06with a pill

00:41:06and again

00:41:07these are just

00:41:07my theories

00:41:08right

00:41:08but

00:41:09the patient

00:41:10then doesn't

00:41:12have to confront

00:41:13amorality

00:41:15immorality

00:41:15corruption

00:41:16in themselves

00:41:17or those around

00:41:17them

00:41:17they don't have

00:41:18to face

00:41:18their conscience

00:41:19they say

00:41:19oh

00:41:19I have a chemical

00:41:21imbalance

00:41:21I can

00:41:22pop some pills

00:41:24and

00:41:26it'll be fixed

00:41:27whoo

00:41:28what a relief

00:41:29I thought

00:41:30maybe I'd done

00:41:31something wrong

00:41:31or there was

00:41:32immorality

00:41:33immorality

00:41:33or corruption

00:41:34or evil

00:41:34in myself

00:41:36or those around

00:41:36me

00:41:36oh my gosh

00:41:37what I thought

00:41:38were the operations

00:41:39of a bad

00:41:41conscience

00:41:41or what could

00:41:42be the operations

00:41:42of a bad

00:41:43conscience

00:41:43or guilt

00:41:45same thing

00:41:46maybe

00:41:47it turns out

00:41:48it's just

00:41:49a chemical

00:41:50imbalance

00:41:50I thought

00:41:55I was anxious

00:41:55I just drank

00:41:5614 cups

00:41:57of coffee

00:41:58and then

00:41:58listened to

00:41:59two murder

00:41:59mystery podcasts

00:42:00right

00:42:01so

00:42:02what's the

00:42:04collusion

00:42:05well the

00:42:05collusion

00:42:05I would imagine

00:42:06goes something

00:42:07like this

00:42:07again

00:42:08all theory

00:42:09the collusion

00:42:09is something

00:42:10like this

00:42:10the doctor

00:42:11doesn't want

00:42:12to confront

00:42:13the immorality

00:42:13or mental

00:42:15dysfunction

00:42:15in the patient

00:42:17because the

00:42:19crazier the

00:42:20patient is

00:42:21the worse

00:42:21their symptoms

00:42:22are going to

00:42:22feel

00:42:22and the more

00:42:23volatile

00:42:24they're going

00:42:24to be

00:42:24if you tell

00:42:25them that

00:42:25maybe it

00:42:26has something

00:42:26to do

00:42:27with

00:42:27I mean

00:42:27particularly

00:42:28like if

00:42:29the patient

00:42:29has done

00:42:30some serious

00:42:30evil

00:42:30right

00:42:31let's just

00:42:31make up

00:42:31a guy

00:42:32named Bob

00:42:32who's

00:42:33molested

00:42:33his kids

00:42:34or done

00:42:34some

00:42:35you know

00:42:35beaten

00:42:35his kids

00:42:36or you

00:42:36know

00:42:37whatever

00:42:37right

00:42:37he's stolen

00:42:38at work

00:42:38he's lied

00:42:38to clients

00:42:39he's you know

00:42:39he's done

00:42:40some really

00:42:41some pretty

00:42:41bad stuff

00:42:42or just

00:42:42some seriously

00:42:42bad stuff

00:42:43now if

00:42:44and Bob

00:42:46is like

00:42:46unhappy

00:42:46can't sleep

00:42:47he's miserable

00:42:47you know

00:42:48because he's

00:42:48under full

00:42:49unconscious

00:42:49revolt

00:42:50and his

00:42:50conscience

00:42:51is plaguing

00:42:52him

00:42:52he goes

00:42:53to the

00:42:53doctor

00:42:53now

00:42:54if the

00:42:57doctor

00:42:58says

00:42:58you

00:42:58should

00:42:58go

00:42:59to

00:42:59therapy

00:42:59Bob

00:43:02his

00:43:03instincts

00:43:04are

00:43:04that

00:43:04going

00:43:05to

00:43:05therapy

00:43:05might

00:43:06cause

00:43:07him

00:43:07to

00:43:07die

00:43:08like

00:43:08he

00:43:08might

00:43:08just

00:43:08throw

00:43:09himself

00:43:09off

00:43:09a

00:43:09bridge

00:43:09if

00:43:10he's

00:43:10been

00:43:10like

00:43:10a

00:43:10child

00:43:11molester

00:43:11or

00:43:12something

00:43:12like

00:43:12that

00:43:12then

00:43:12if

00:43:13the

00:43:13doctor

00:43:14says

00:43:14go

00:43:14to

00:43:15therapy

00:43:15so

00:43:16then

00:43:16Bob

00:43:17is

00:43:17going

00:43:17to

00:43:17be

00:43:17like

00:43:17well

00:43:17if

00:43:18I

00:43:18go

00:43:18to

00:43:18therapy

00:43:18my

00:43:18god

00:43:19I

00:43:19mean

00:43:19I

00:43:19can't

00:43:19talk

00:43:20to

00:43:20the

00:43:20therapist

00:43:20about

00:43:20this

00:43:20stuff

00:43:21I'm

00:43:21going

00:43:21to

00:43:21start

00:43:22to

00:43:22uncover

00:43:22my

00:43:22own

00:43:22evil

00:43:23I'm

00:43:23going

00:43:23to

00:43:23start

00:43:23to

00:43:24uncover

00:43:24my

00:43:24own

00:43:24trauma

00:43:25I'm

00:43:25going

00:43:25to

00:43:25start

00:43:25to

00:43:25uncover

00:43:26the

00:43:26wrongs

00:43:27that

00:43:27I've

00:43:27done

00:43:27and

00:43:27then

00:43:28I'll

00:43:28be

00:43:28in

00:43:28the

00:43:28humiliating

00:43:28position

00:43:29of

00:43:29having

00:43:29to

00:43:29make

00:43:29amends

00:43:30or

00:43:30apologize

00:43:30or

00:43:30if

00:43:31I

00:43:31stole

00:43:3150,000

00:43:32bucks

00:43:32from

00:43:33my

00:43:33employer

00:43:34by

00:43:34skimming

00:43:35or

00:43:35falsifying

00:43:36my

00:43:36expense

00:43:37accounts

00:43:37or

00:43:37something

00:43:37then

00:43:38I

00:43:39got

00:43:39to

00:43:50knock

00:43:50oh

00:43:51thank

00:43:52god

00:43:52it's

00:43:53not

00:43:53because

00:43:53I'm

00:43:54a

00:43:54creepy

00:43:54evil

00:43:54guy

00:43:55it's

00:43:55because

00:43:56says

00:43:56Bob

00:43:56I

00:43:59have

00:43:59a

00:43:59chemical

00:43:59imbalance

00:44:00so

00:44:02the

00:44:02doctor

00:44:02there's

00:44:03a

00:44:03collusion

00:44:03the

00:44:04collusion

00:44:04is

00:44:04the

00:44:04doctor

00:44:05just

00:44:05wants

00:44:05to

00:44:06get

00:44:06crazy

00:44:07dangerous

00:44:07perhaps

00:44:08evil

00:44:08Bob

00:44:08out

00:44:09of

00:44:09his

00:44:09office

00:44:09or

00:44:09Sally

00:44:10and

00:44:12Bob

00:44:12or

00:44:12Sally

00:44:12just

00:44:13want

00:44:13to

00:44:13greedily

00:44:14take

00:44:14a

00:44:14pill

00:44:14so

00:44:15they

00:44:15don't

00:44:15have

00:44:15to

00:44:15confront

00:44:15their

00:44:15own

00:44:16conscience

00:44:16or

00:44:17realize

00:44:17that

00:44:18it's

00:44:20vulnerable

00:44:20and

00:44:20sleepless

00:44:20because

00:44:21they're

00:44:22surrounded

00:44:22by

00:44:23involved

00:44:23in

00:44:23or

00:44:24engaged

00:44:24in

00:44:24evil

00:44:25and

00:44:25corruption

00:44:25so

00:44:31to

00:44:31me

00:44:32it's

00:44:32not

00:44:32as

00:44:32simple

00:44:32as

00:44:33well

00:44:33the

00:44:33doctors

00:44:33are

00:44:34just

00:44:34pill

00:44:34pushers

00:44:34there

00:44:35has

00:44:36to

00:44:36be

00:44:36a

00:44:36demand

00:44:36for

00:44:37things

00:44:37that

00:44:37aren't

00:44:37enforced

00:44:38right

00:44:38there

00:44:39has

00:44:39to

00:44:39be

00:44:39a

00:44:39demand

00:44:40for

00:44:41things

00:44:41that

00:44:41aren't

00:44:42enforced

00:44:42and

00:44:46I

00:44:46think

00:44:46that

00:44:47evildoers

00:44:48in

00:44:49society

00:44:49as a

00:44:50whole

00:44:50way

00:44:51prefer

00:44:52the

00:44:53SSRIs

00:44:53to

00:44:54a

00:44:54robust

00:44:55and

00:44:56detailed

00:44:56moral

00:44:57examination

00:44:58of

00:44:59life

00:44:59are

00:45:01you

00:45:01unhappy

00:45:01because

00:45:02you

00:45:02are

00:45:03corrupt

00:45:03are

00:45:03you

00:45:04unhappy

00:45:04because

00:45:04you've

00:45:05done

00:45:05evil

00:45:05are

00:45:05you

00:45:05unhappy

00:45:06because

00:45:06you're

00:45:06surrounded

00:45:07by

00:45:07corrupt

00:45:07or evil

00:45:07people

00:45:08and

00:45:08you

00:45:09lie

00:45:09to

00:45:09yourself

00:45:09about

00:45:09their

00:45:10virtues

00:45:10are

00:45:10you

00:45:10unhappy

00:45:12because

00:45:12you

00:45:13lie

00:45:13to

00:45:13yourself

00:45:13are

00:45:13you

00:45:14unhappy

00:45:14because

00:45:14you

00:45:15got

00:45:15involved

00:45:16with

00:45:16the

00:45:16wrong

00:45:16woman

00:45:16and

00:45:17you

00:45:17are

00:45:18staying

00:45:18there

00:45:18for

00:45:19lust

00:45:19and

00:45:20fear

00:45:20and

00:45:20habit

00:45:21are

00:45:21you

00:45:21unhappy

00:45:22because

00:45:22are

00:45:23you

00:45:23unhappy

00:45:23because

00:45:24you

00:45:24spent

00:45:24the

00:45:24last

00:45:24three

00:45:24years

00:45:25caring

00:45:26for

00:45:26an

00:45:26aging

00:45:26mother

00:45:27who

00:45:27beat

00:45:27you

00:45:28as

00:45:28a

00:45:28child

00:45:28and

00:45:28you've

00:45:28never

00:45:29talked

00:45:29to

00:45:29her

00:45:29about

00:45:29what's

00:45:30happened

00:45:30are

00:45:30you

00:45:30unhappy

00:45:31because

00:45:31you

00:45:31lie

00:45:31are

00:45:32you

00:45:32unhappy

00:45:32because

00:45:33you

00:45:33misrepresent

00:45:34because

00:45:34you

00:45:34justify

00:45:35and

00:45:36you

00:45:36you're

00:45:36a

00:45:36sophist

00:45:36to

00:45:37yourself

00:45:37you

00:45:37turn

00:45:37the

00:45:37worst

00:45:38argument

00:45:38into

00:45:38a

00:45:41pretend

00:45:41better

00:45:42argument

00:45:49that

00:45:50I've

00:45:50read

00:45:50and

00:45:50again

00:45:50it's

00:45:50not

00:45:51medical

00:45:51advice

00:45:51I

00:45:51don't

00:45:52know

00:45:52my

00:45:52ass

00:45:52from

00:45:52a

00:45:52hole

00:45:52in

00:45:53ground

00:45:53with

00:45:53regards

00:45:53to

00:45:53the

00:45:54studies

00:45:54but

00:45:54from

00:45:54what

00:45:54I've

00:45:55read

00:45:55the

00:45:55chemical

00:45:56imbalance

00:45:56theory

00:45:57is

00:45:58not

00:45:58true

00:45:59and

00:46:00in

00:46:00the

00:46:00Tucker

00:46:00Carlson

00:46:01interview

00:46:01they were

00:46:02basically

00:46:02saying

00:46:02well

00:46:04we

00:46:05haven't

00:46:05the

00:46:06psychiatrist

00:46:06say

00:46:07well

00:46:07we

00:46:07haven't

00:46:07found

00:46:07it

00:46:07yet

00:46:08so

00:46:08we

00:46:08say

00:46:09it

00:46:09now

00:46:09but

00:46:09we

00:46:09know

00:46:09it's

00:46:09there

00:46:10which

00:46:12to

00:46:13me

00:46:13would

00:46:19fraud

00:46:19but

00:46:21there

00:46:22is

00:46:22a

00:46:22demand

00:46:23for

00:46:23these

00:46:24things

00:46:24there

00:46:26is

00:46:26a

00:46:26demand

00:46:27to

00:46:27avoid

00:46:27your

00:46:27own

00:46:27bad

00:46:28conscience

00:46:28there

00:46:28is

00:46:28a

00:46:29demand

00:46:29to

00:46:30continue

00:46:31to

00:46:31be

00:46:31able

00:46:31to

00:46:31lie

00:46:31to

00:46:32yourself

00:46:32and

00:46:34lies

00:46:36are

00:46:36popular

00:46:36because

00:46:38people

00:46:38prefer

00:46:39them

00:46:39to

00:46:40the

00:46:40brutal

00:46:40truth

00:46:40and

00:46:45of course

00:46:45in the

00:46:45past

00:46:46to me

00:46:46in the

00:46:47past

00:46:47the

00:46:47quote

00:46:47SSRIs

00:46:48was

00:46:49this

00:46:49infinite

00:46:50forgiveness

00:46:50nonsense

00:46:51that is

00:46:52pushed

00:46:53by some

00:46:53aspects

00:46:54of

00:46:54in

00:46:54particular

00:46:55Christianity

00:46:55so

00:46:57in the

00:46:58past

00:46:58oh

00:46:58you're

00:46:58unhappy

00:46:59well

00:47:00you're

00:47:00unhappy

00:47:01because

00:47:01you

00:47:01failed

00:47:01to

00:47:01forgive

00:47:02people

00:47:02and

00:47:02this

00:47:02also

00:47:03happens

00:47:03in

00:47:03the

00:47:03self

00:47:03help

00:47:04movement

00:47:04right

00:47:04this

00:47:04is

00:47:04the

00:47:04equivalent

00:47:05of

00:47:05SSRIs

00:47:06to me

00:47:06in

00:47:06that

00:47:06environment

00:47:08of

00:47:08situation

00:47:08when

00:47:08you're

00:47:09unhappy

00:47:09you see

00:47:09because

00:47:10you

00:47:10failed

00:47:10to

00:47:10forgive

00:47:11people

00:47:11well

00:47:13maybe

00:47:14you're

00:47:14unhappy

00:47:15because

00:47:15you

00:47:15are

00:47:16corrupt

00:47:16or

00:47:17people

00:47:17around

00:47:17you

00:47:17corrupt

00:47:18I

00:47:18don't

00:47:18want

00:47:18to

00:47:18keep

00:47:18repeating

00:47:18myself

00:47:19but

00:47:19in

00:47:20this

00:47:20instance

00:47:20well

00:47:20you're

00:47:21unhappy

00:47:21because

00:47:21it's

00:47:22on

00:47:22you

00:47:23fail

00:47:23to

00:47:23forgive

00:47:23people

00:47:25you're

00:47:25holding

00:47:25on

00:47:25to

00:47:25a

00:47:25grudge

00:47:26you're

00:47:26whatever

00:47:27you

00:47:27have

00:47:27repressed

00:47:27anger

00:47:28you

00:47:28haven't

00:47:29dealt

00:47:29with

00:47:29this

00:47:29you

00:47:29haven't

00:47:29done

00:47:29the

00:47:29deep

00:47:30work

00:47:30of

00:47:30that

00:47:30you

00:47:30haven't

00:47:30right

00:47:31well

00:47:33maybe

00:47:33it's

00:47:34moral

00:47:34maybe

00:47:36it's

00:47:36moral

00:47:36so

00:47:37in

00:47:37the

00:47:37past

00:47:38people

00:47:38would

00:47:38be

00:47:38told

00:47:39if

00:47:39they

00:47:40say

00:47:47just

00:47:47fail

00:47:48to

00:47:48forgive

00:47:48people

00:47:48and

00:47:49if

00:47:49you

00:47:49just

00:47:49forgive

00:47:49people

00:47:50that's

00:47:50the

00:47:50equivalent

00:47:50of

00:47:50the

00:47:50SSRI

00:47:51you

00:47:51just

00:47:51forgive

00:47:51people

00:47:52you'll

00:47:52be

00:47:52happier

00:47:52and

00:47:53it

00:47:53doesn't

00:47:54work

00:47:54it

00:47:54doesn't

00:47:55work

00:47:55every

00:47:59answer

00:47:59except

00:48:00moral

00:48:01examination

00:48:02is

00:48:02preferred

00:48:03and

00:48:03this

00:48:03is

00:48:03not

00:48:03new

00:48:04it's

00:48:04very

00:48:04much

00:48:04facilitated

00:48:05by

00:48:05the

00:48:05state

00:48:06of

00:48:06course

00:48:06right

00:48:06because

00:48:07the

00:48:08funny

00:48:08thing

00:48:08is

00:48:08that

00:48:08if

00:48:09you

00:48:09just

00:48:09and

00:48:10I'll

00:48:10end

00:48:10here

00:48:10and

00:48:10I'm

00:48:11again

00:48:11happy

00:48:11to

00:48:17but

00:48:18I

00:48:18know

00:48:18that

00:48:18I'm

00:48:19talking

00:48:19about

00:48:19a lot

00:48:19of

00:48:19important

00:48:20stuff

00:48:20here

00:48:20so

00:48:21I

00:48:22get

00:48:22I

00:48:24get

00:48:24all

00:48:25of

00:48:25that

00:48:25but

00:48:26let's

00:48:26look at

00:48:27the

00:48:27basic

00:48:27economics

00:48:27and

00:48:28then

00:48:28I'll

00:48:29talk

00:48:30about

00:48:30whatever

00:48:30you

00:48:30guys

00:48:30want

00:48:30to

00:48:30talk

00:48:31about

00:48:31things

00:48:31really

00:48:31important

00:48:32so

00:48:33the

00:48:33basic

00:48:34economics

00:48:34run

00:48:35something

00:48:35like

00:48:35this

00:48:36moral

00:48:39examination

00:48:39is

00:48:41very

00:48:41cheap

00:48:42pop and

00:48:43pills

00:48:44is

00:48:44very

00:48:44expensive

00:48:45right

00:48:47so

00:48:49but

00:48:49people

00:48:49aren't

00:48:50even

00:48:50making

00:48:50a

00:48:50rational

00:48:51decision

00:48:51based

00:48:51on

00:48:52resources

00:48:52so

00:48:52I

00:48:53have

00:48:53no

00:48:53idea

00:48:54how

00:48:54much

00:48:54SSRIs

00:48:55would

00:48:55cost

00:48:55in a

00:48:56free

00:48:56market

00:48:56well

00:48:57in a

00:48:57free

00:48:57market

00:48:57they

00:48:58probably

00:48:58wouldn't

00:48:58be

00:48:58developed

00:48:58because

00:48:59in a

00:48:59free

00:48:59market

00:48:59they'd

00:49:00have

00:49:00to

00:49:00prove

00:49:00their

00:49:01case

00:49:01but

00:49:02let's

00:49:03say

00:49:03that

00:49:04your

00:49:06SSRIs

00:49:07are going

00:49:07to cost

00:49:07you

00:49:07a

00:49:08thousand

00:49:08dollars

00:49:08a

00:49:08month

00:49:09right

00:49:10or

00:49:10like

00:49:11this

00:49:11like

00:49:11if

00:49:11the

00:49:11government

00:49:12wasn't

00:49:12paying

00:49:12for

00:49:12everything

00:49:12and

00:49:13it

00:49:13wasn't

00:49:13all

00:49:13being

00:49:14shoveled

00:49:14onto

00:49:14the

00:49:15less

00:49:15corrupt

00:49:15through

00:49:16mandated

00:49:17insurance

00:49:17policies

00:49:18and

00:49:18socialized

00:49:19medicine

00:49:19and all

00:49:20that kind

00:49:20of

00:49:20aggressive

00:49:21garbage

00:49:22but let's

00:49:23say that

00:49:23you actually

00:49:23had to

00:49:24pay

00:49:24so your

00:49:24doctor

00:49:24would sit

00:49:25you down

00:49:25and would

00:49:25say

00:49:25okay

00:49:26so

00:49:26you're

00:49:27either

00:49:27on

00:49:27a thousand

00:49:28dollars

00:49:29a month

00:49:29maybe for

00:49:29the rest

00:49:30of your

00:49:30life

00:49:30I don't

00:49:30know

00:49:30for a

00:49:31long

00:49:31time

00:49:31and

00:49:32isn't

00:49:32it

00:49:32coincidental

00:49:33that

00:49:33depression

00:49:33often

00:49:34lifts

00:49:34within

00:49:35six

00:49:35to

00:49:3512

00:49:35weeks

00:49:36and

00:49:36what is

00:49:36it

00:49:36how

00:49:37long

00:49:37did

00:49:37they

00:49:37say

00:49:37SSRIs

00:49:38take

00:49:38to

00:49:38work

00:49:38huh

00:49:39interesting

00:49:40so

00:49:44if the

00:49:45doctor

00:49:46says to

00:49:46you

00:49:46okay

00:49:46so

00:49:47it's

00:49:47going

00:49:47to

00:49:47cost

00:49:47you

00:49:47a thousand

00:49:47bucks

00:49:48a month

00:49:48for an

00:49:48indefinite

00:49:49amount

00:49:49of time

00:49:50or

00:49:51you can

00:49:52pay

00:49:52600 bucks

00:49:55a month

00:49:55for

00:49:56therapy

00:49:57like I

00:49:58don't know

00:49:58four times

00:49:58a month

00:49:59150

00:49:59ago

00:50:01right

00:50:01and

00:50:02therapy

00:50:03is usually

00:50:03six to

00:50:04twelve

00:50:04months

00:50:04so

00:50:05it's

00:50:05600 a month

00:50:06for six

00:50:06to twelve

00:50:07months

00:50:07or it's

00:50:07a thousand

00:50:07bucks

00:50:08for

00:50:10indeterminate

00:50:12amount

00:50:12of time

00:50:13well clearly

00:50:14therapy is

00:50:15cheaper than

00:50:16the SSRIs

00:50:17now I know

00:50:17that I might

00:50:18be stacking

00:50:18the deck

00:50:18or whatever

00:50:19maybe the

00:50:19SSRIs

00:50:19would be

00:50:20cheaper

00:50:20or something

00:50:20like that

00:50:21right

00:50:21well the

00:50:21other thing

00:50:22is

00:50:22you know

00:50:22if you're

00:50:23willing to

00:50:23do the

00:50:23self-work

00:50:24in other

00:50:25words

00:50:25if you're

00:50:25willing

00:50:25to

00:50:26you know

00:50:27maybe

00:50:27there's

00:50:27some

00:50:27Canadian

00:50:28podcaster

00:50:29that takes

00:50:29calls for

00:50:29free

00:50:30you know

00:50:30not that

00:50:30I'm a

00:50:31therapist

00:50:31but I

00:50:31think the

00:50:32moral

00:50:32examination

00:50:32I think

00:50:33I can

00:50:33help

00:50:34with

00:50:34but

00:50:36you can

00:50:38read books

00:50:40you can

00:50:40keep a

00:50:41notebook

00:50:41you can

00:50:41rigorously

00:50:42examine

00:50:42yourself

00:50:43you can

00:50:43read

00:50:43philosophy

00:50:43you can

00:50:44read

00:50:44books on

00:50:45self-knowledge

00:50:45and you know

00:50:46maybe

00:50:46just maybe

00:50:47you can

00:50:47do it

00:50:47for free

00:50:48like not

00:50:48everybody

00:50:48who exercises

00:50:49needs a

00:50:50personal

00:50:50trainer

00:50:50not everyone

00:50:51who diets

00:50:52needs a

00:50:52nutritionist

00:50:53right and

00:50:53not everyone

00:50:54who's pursuing

00:50:54self-knowledge

00:50:55and and

00:50:57moral

00:50:57improvement

00:50:58needs to

00:50:59see a

00:51:00therapist

00:51:00so

00:51:02your

00:51:06choices

00:51:07are

00:51:07economically

00:51:08distorted

00:51:09by the

00:51:10incentives

00:51:10to the

00:51:12doctors

00:51:12right as

00:51:12you know

00:51:13these

00:51:13hot young

00:51:15things who

00:51:15pretend to be

00:51:16sales people

00:51:16but are kind

00:51:17of pill

00:51:17pushers

00:51:18from the

00:51:20pharma companies

00:51:21will offer a

00:51:22lot of

00:51:22benefits so

00:51:23we're doing a

00:51:24lovely conference

00:51:25out here in

00:51:25Hawaii we'll

00:51:26fly you out

00:51:27we'll put you

00:51:27out and your

00:51:27family maybe

00:51:28or whatever it

00:51:29is I don't

00:51:29know how it

00:51:29works but

00:51:30there's a lot

00:51:30of money

00:51:30flowing back

00:51:31and forth

00:51:31obviously from

00:51:32pharma sales

00:51:33reps to

00:51:34doctors and

00:51:36so the

00:51:38doctors instead

00:51:39of trying to

00:51:40help people

00:51:41understand that

00:51:41maybe they're

00:51:42wrestling with

00:51:42significant

00:51:43thinking

00:51:44dysfunction or

00:51:45emotional

00:51:46dysfunction that

00:51:46arises from

00:51:47trauma or a

00:51:48bad conscience

00:51:49like that's a

00:51:49real wrestle

00:51:50right they can

00:51:50just say

00:51:51here pills

00:51:53and off you

00:51:53go or they

00:51:54refer to a

00:51:55psychiatrist and

00:51:55the psychiatrist

00:51:56says rather

00:51:56than doing a

00:51:57foundational

00:51:58moral analysis

00:51:59of the

00:51:59person's life

00:52:00and environment

00:52:01and social

00:52:02circle just

00:52:03says oh

00:52:04pills here

00:52:04you go and

00:52:06again it's

00:52:06largely paid

00:52:07for by the

00:52:07state or

00:52:08insurance

00:52:08companies or

00:52:08whatever so

00:52:09it's really

00:52:10the economic

00:52:11distortions are

00:52:12wild and the

00:52:13economic

00:52:13distortions are

00:52:14actively diffusing

00:52:16the possibility

00:52:17that people will

00:52:17take the high

00:52:18hard road I

00:52:19when I was

00:52:20going through

00:52:21my real

00:52:23you know dark

00:52:25midnight of the

00:52:25soul and I

00:52:26know that sounds

00:52:26like a bit of

00:52:27a cliche but

00:52:28it was a very

00:52:28very real

00:52:29phenomenon

00:52:29I it never

00:52:33even crossed

00:52:33my mind I

00:52:35knew about

00:52:35them I

00:52:36actually had a

00:52:36roommate who

00:52:36was on

00:52:37Prozac when I

00:52:39was doing my

00:52:39master I

00:52:40knew about all

00:52:40of the stuff

00:52:41but the idea

00:52:43that I never

00:52:46even I never

00:52:47took a sleeping

00:52:47pill I never

00:52:49took of course

00:52:50any SSRIs or

00:52:51like the idea

00:52:52of going to

00:52:54get pills it

00:52:56never crossed my

00:52:56mind and I'm

00:52:58not saying this

00:52:59is some big

00:52:59magical virtue but

00:53:00because I had

00:53:01studied for

00:53:01philosophy for so

00:53:02long the idea

00:53:03that I would

00:53:03take a pill to

00:53:05solve torments of

00:53:07the soul when we

00:53:08live in a pretty

00:53:09corrupt world full

00:53:11of evil people who

00:53:12have near infinite

00:53:12power over us the

00:53:13idea that you

00:53:17know can you

00:53:17imagine someone

00:53:18like the hero of

00:53:23crime and

00:53:23punishment

00:53:24Raskolnikov

00:53:25that well he

00:53:28just has a

00:53:30serotonin

00:53:31imbalance and

00:53:31needs to take

00:53:32some pills

00:53:33the moral

00:53:36agonies of the

00:53:37soul that arise

00:53:38when confronting

00:53:39the corruption in

00:53:40yourself and those

00:53:41around you and the

00:53:41world as a whole

00:53:42that very very

00:53:43black being

00:53:45rebirthed by a

00:53:46completely acidic

00:53:47volcano vagina

00:53:48the idea that

00:53:49well just pop a

00:53:50pill and it'll all

00:53:51be fine is

00:53:52to me it's an

00:53:54insult to the

00:53:54depth and power

00:53:55of the unconscious

00:53:56of the conscience

00:53:57itself and of the

00:53:59need for moral

00:53:59improvement and

00:54:00instruction and the

00:54:02battle and barriers

00:54:03that moral improvement

00:54:04and instruction

00:54:04generate in those

00:54:06around you so

00:54:06hopefully that makes

00:54:08some sense and

00:54:10let me and

00:54:11please please

00:54:12understand please

00:54:14understand I am in

00:54:16no way trying to

00:54:17give anybody medical

00:54:18advice go talk to your

00:54:19doctor and so on I'm

00:54:20just talking about the

00:54:21philosophical ideas

00:54:22or arguments

00:54:23all right

00:54:27let me see here

00:54:33this is a very

00:54:34gripping show

00:54:35thank you and of

00:54:38course tips and

00:54:39donations freedom

00:54:39main dot com slash

00:54:40donate is very

00:54:42helpful and

00:54:43important yeah the

00:54:49show number is

00:54:502041 from 2011

00:54:532041 there is no

00:54:54such thing as mental

00:54:55illness all right

00:55:03let me get to your

00:55:05comments and

00:55:08questions and I

00:55:09think Tom Cruz made

00:55:13controversial remarks

00:55:14about psychiatry

00:55:15calling it a

00:55:16pseudoscience in

00:55:172005 I mean Tom

00:55:19Cruz to me has

00:55:20let's say some

00:55:22issues but I

00:55:24mean where people

00:55:24are right they're

00:55:25right any doctors

00:55:27or professors been

00:55:28fired yet for

00:55:29pushing SSRIs no

00:55:30no no no

00:55:33yeah it's funny I

00:55:38got up this morning I

00:55:39was going to finish my

00:55:40novel because I'm so

00:55:41close I'm so close

00:55:42but my daughter

00:55:44wanted to drive me

00:55:47somewhere so we

00:55:49went and drove

00:55:50because she's driving

00:55:50now it's pretty wild

00:55:52man getting into the

00:55:53passenger side

00:55:53somebody says I lost

00:55:57all respect for my

00:55:58parents when they

00:55:59justified every evil

00:56:00act they committed

00:56:01it's such a shame

00:56:01because honesty and

00:56:03taking accountability

00:56:03is a beautiful thing

00:56:05that commands great

00:56:06respect from others

00:56:06but so many people

00:56:07forsake their

00:56:08responsibility to

00:56:09avoid whatever

00:56:09fleeting discomfort

00:56:10that may bring

00:56:11well but it's it's

00:56:12not fleeting discomfort

00:56:13it's not fleeting

00:56:14discomfort there are

00:56:15wrongs that you do

00:56:16that are so

00:56:17unrecoverable that

00:56:18it feels like death

00:56:20feel validated

00:56:25listening to you

00:56:26talk about this

00:56:26thank you for

00:56:27sharing I also felt

00:56:28like I was going to

00:56:29die unaware it was

00:56:30an intense shedding

00:56:30yes yeah so when

00:56:34it comes to shedding

00:56:35your illusions and

00:56:37lies think of the

00:56:42snake that's shedding

00:56:43its skin how does

00:56:45the skin feel

00:56:45because the skin goes

00:56:49from living to dead

00:56:50the skin is discarded

00:56:51think of you know

00:56:54when a rocket goes up

00:56:55and it has these

00:56:55stages you know

00:56:56the fuel tank and

00:56:58it just drops it away

00:56:59well that

00:57:00that stage that

00:57:04empty fuel tank from

00:57:05the rocket that's

00:57:05going to the moon

00:57:06is falling to its

00:57:07death

00:57:08right so we all want

00:57:11to be the snake that

00:57:11emerges but we are

00:57:13the snake skin there's

00:57:15a part of us that is

00:57:15like the snake skin

00:57:16which is if I'm shed

00:57:17I die

00:57:18and the illusions and

00:57:21the the corruptions

00:57:22have a life of their

00:57:23own and they feel

00:57:25like they're dying

00:57:25someone says this one

00:57:29hits hard I spent

00:57:30many years using

00:57:31convincing others to

00:57:32be virtuous as an

00:57:33excuse for not

00:57:33executing it in my own

00:57:34life refusing to take

00:57:36the chemical shortcuts

00:57:37was one of the best

00:57:37things I ever did

00:57:38yeah

00:57:38central bank is a

00:57:40reflection of people

00:57:41wanting easy answers

00:57:42yes for sure

00:57:42all right this is

00:57:52very fascinating it

00:57:53reminds me of your

00:57:53X space on anxiety

00:57:55and how it actually

00:57:55serves to help warn

00:57:56you of imminent

00:57:57threats people's

00:57:58depression and anxiety

00:57:59is likely caused by

00:58:00immorality in their

00:58:01own life and those

00:58:03feelings of unhappiness

00:58:04other subconscious

00:58:06trying to tell them

00:58:07as much but SSRIs

00:58:08bypass that natural

00:58:09reaction and thereby

00:58:10people become unfulfilled

00:58:11by an unfulfilling

00:58:12life well and I

00:58:14don't think it's

00:58:14coincidental that the

00:58:16fall of Christianity

00:58:17has coincided with the

00:58:18rise of these you

00:58:20know quote treatments

00:58:21right because with

00:58:25Christianity you have a

00:58:27soul that is eternal

00:58:29a response to virtue

00:58:30most of all but in the

00:58:33sort of mechanistic

00:58:34atheistic materialistic

00:58:36view or unhappiness

00:58:37it's a biochemical it

00:58:41must be something

00:58:41biochemical and

00:58:42therefore it must be

00:58:43fixable by biochemicals

00:58:44right unhappiness has

00:58:46to have some

00:58:46physiological basis to

00:58:47it whereas of course

00:58:49it would be the soul's

00:58:50agony or corruption

00:58:51that would be driving

00:58:52the unhappiness in the

00:58:52Christian world but

00:58:53take the soul out of

00:58:54the equation and we

00:58:56are just a machinery

00:58:58we're just machines and

00:59:01if your car is running

00:59:02badly because it has no

00:59:04oil then just add oil

00:59:05and you're fine right

00:59:06it has an oil in

00:59:09balance just add oil

00:59:10so if you're unhappy

00:59:11because you're lacking

00:59:14some hormonal mystery

00:59:16whatever dopamine or

00:59:17serotonin or something

00:59:18like that well just add

00:59:19that and you'll be fine

00:59:21right it's just like a

00:59:21machine it's running

00:59:23badly you just got to

00:59:23fix it but the idea

00:59:25that we don't have a

00:59:26soul but our unconscious

00:59:27is tormented by

00:59:28corruption is very hard

00:59:30for people to focus

00:59:31because they're just

00:59:31looking at the chemicals

00:59:33I have tried to

00:59:40encourage someone to

00:59:41acknowledge their

00:59:41hypocrisy says someone

00:59:42in terms of the

00:59:44negative effect I don't

00:59:45know why my hands are

00:59:46rubbing a little cold

00:59:47the negative effect is

00:59:48having on their life

00:59:50it's difficult and they

00:59:51can become volatile

00:59:52quickly yes yes yes

00:59:54do you have any book

00:59:55suggestions for therapy

00:59:56work so John Gray has

01:00:00good stuff I think the

01:00:01sentence completion

01:00:02stuff stuff which is

01:00:03not just reading but

01:00:04is interactive Nathaniel

01:00:06Brandon the psychology

01:00:07of self-esteem I

01:00:08thought was very good

01:00:09it was almost like a

01:00:11Bible for me when I

01:00:11was starting out on

01:00:12my self-knowledge

01:00:13journey John Gray and

01:00:14a sentence completion

01:00:16work that Nathaniel

01:00:16Brandon does he's got a

01:00:17bunch of books about

01:00:18that John Gray has a

01:00:19bunch of books about

01:00:20that so if you can't

01:00:22go to therapy for

01:00:23whatever reason

01:00:23therapy I think is the

01:00:24best if you have a

01:00:25good therapist although

01:00:26God knows what therapy

01:00:26is like these days it's

01:00:27more than 20 years

01:00:28since I went

01:00:29and I went very

01:00:31intensively I did three

01:00:32hours a week for I

01:00:35don't know 18 months

01:00:36and I would also spend

01:00:3810 to 12 hours a week

01:00:39journaling and sentence

01:00:40completion work and I

01:00:41was just I was all in

01:00:42man and it was really

01:00:44one of the best things I

01:00:46ever did in my life but

01:00:47do in my view I would do

01:00:51stuff that is interactive

01:00:53not just just sort of

01:00:54reading which is passive

01:00:55the body keeps the score

01:01:00by Bessel van der

01:01:01Kork these are other

01:01:02recommendations no bad

01:01:04parts by Richard

01:01:07Schwartz I actually

01:01:09interviewed him he's a

01:01:10internal family systems

01:01:11therapy which I think is

01:01:12great these are

01:01:14recommendations from

01:01:15Sepanta I can recommend

01:01:17some but I'm not going to

01:01:18validate all of them the

01:01:19body keeps the score by

01:01:20Bessel van der

01:01:21Kork K O L K no bad

01:01:23parts by Richard Schwartz and

01:01:25the mindful self

01:01:25compassion workbook by

01:01:26Christian Christian Neff

01:01:28N-E-F-F Christopher

01:01:30Germer G-E-R-M-E-R all

01:01:33are quite good just

01:01:34started no bad parts

01:01:35recently but the

01:01:35therapy I do is based

01:01:36on it thank you

01:01:37appreciate that I K P Z

01:01:41thank you thank you

01:01:42thank you that is a

01:01:43wonderful piece of

01:01:45support for the show and

01:01:46I massively appreciate it

01:01:47thank you

01:01:47let me just see here I

01:01:51want to make sure if

01:01:52people have no

01:01:54callers okay no

01:01:55problem I take it as a

01:01:57compliment

01:01:58sorry let me just get

01:02:01here

01:02:02the camera shakes as I

01:02:04scroll

01:02:04all right so here we go

01:02:07can you explain why

01:02:09homeschooling is so

01:02:10looked down upon in

01:02:10Europe it is barely

01:02:12legal anywhere and

01:02:13most people I talk to

01:02:13deeply believe that

01:02:14mandated government

01:02:15schools are a good

01:02:16thing even though they

01:02:17could be better what

01:02:18are the best

01:02:19alternatives to leaving

01:02:19the place entirely

01:02:20currently planning to

01:02:21have her firstborn

01:02:22child soon which would

01:02:22of course be raised

01:02:23peacefully thank you

01:02:24very much for your

01:02:24work homeschooling is

01:02:26so looked down upon in

01:02:28Europe well so the

01:02:29important thing to

01:02:30remember about Europe

01:02:31is look at the new

01:02:37world in Canada America

01:02:39Australia New Zealand

01:02:42like the what was the

01:02:43new world from Europe

01:02:45so the rebellious

01:02:50independent thinkers

01:02:52left Europe

01:02:55starting in the I mean

01:02:58you know 18th 17th 18th

01:03:0119th century

01:03:01everybody who wanted

01:03:05freedom left Europe

01:03:07now a third of them ended

01:03:11up coming back because

01:03:12they didn't like freedom

01:03:13or it didn't work for them

01:03:14so much but the amount of

01:03:16freedom available in say

01:03:18America and Canada

01:03:19relative to where you

01:03:20were in Europe is

01:03:23it's incomprehensible to

01:03:24us I mean it was a

01:03:27six-week voyage and not

01:03:29insignificant number of

01:03:31people would die or or

01:03:32the ship would founder or

01:03:34be blown adrift like it

01:03:35was a really really risky

01:03:36voyage and just imagine

01:03:38like how horrible it was

01:03:40in Ireland Scotland Wales

01:03:42England France Germany

01:03:43Belgium like just imagine

01:03:45how horrible it was in

01:03:47these countries that you

01:03:49would pretty much leave

01:03:50everyone and everything

01:03:52go out to get your 40

01:03:54acres in a mule and try

01:03:56and live some kind of free

01:03:57in some kind of freedom

01:03:58so with Europe who's who's

01:04:03left right so who's left

01:04:04after the energy brain drain

01:04:08of the new world and two

01:04:10world wars who's left

01:04:12well in general very fearful

01:04:18broken and compliant people

01:04:19I mean what should have I

01:04:25mean if the European leaders

01:04:26had any wisdom which leaders

01:04:29don't right I mean political

01:04:30leaders almost by definition

01:04:31don't hashtag not so much

01:04:35Trump because he's an outsider

01:04:36but of course with the European

01:04:38leaders what they should have

01:04:39done is they should have said

01:04:40oh gee we're losing our best

01:04:41and brightest to the new

01:04:43world so we should increase

01:04:46our freedoms here so we can

01:04:47keep people here right like I

01:04:49mean if you're losing all of

01:04:50your like if you're Illinois

01:04:51and you're losing all your

01:04:52people to high taxes you got to

01:04:53lower your taxes so they should

01:04:56have worked to increase their

01:04:57freedoms but I mean growing up

01:05:00in England is part of the lower

01:05:02class I can tell you I mean this

01:05:04is one of the things that was

01:05:05going on with these these horror

01:05:07horribles these horrors inflicted

01:05:09upon British children like the

01:05:11million rapes and assaults a lot

01:05:15of this has to do with just well

01:05:16they're lower class they don't

01:05:17matter they've been like in

01:05:19England the lower classes are

01:05:20barely looked upon as human it's

01:05:21it's incredibly bigoted and so the

01:05:24fact that the lower class

01:05:26children are being raped and

01:05:27assaulted I mean can you imagine if

01:05:29it was happening to the upper

01:05:32classes I mean there would be

01:05:33unbelievable institutional change

01:05:35and outrage right so I mean in

01:05:39England at least back in the day to

01:05:41be lower class was to be barely

01:05:42categorized as as human and to to

01:05:48go to the new because I actually had

01:05:49this experience like growing up poor

01:05:50in England and then coming to the

01:05:53new world coming to Canada nobody

01:05:54cared nobody cared about the class

01:05:57nobody cared about my accent nobody

01:05:58cared about where I'd come from

01:06:00nobody inquired didn't matter I'm

01:06:02not saying there's no classism but

01:06:03it's nothing like there was in

01:06:05England right so who's left in

01:06:07Europe who's left who's left

01:06:13those with initiative left for the new

01:06:17world those with an excess of both

01:06:19courage and compliance got slaughtered

01:06:22in the world wars I mean who's left

01:06:24I mean the question of when did Europe

01:06:30die is interesting and foundational I

01:06:33won't sort of get into it here because

01:06:34obviously it's a massive topic and and

01:06:36so on but you know I remember doing

01:06:40videos on the French elections with

01:06:42Marine Le Pen and so on and you know

01:06:44you'd have all of these galatois

01:06:46smoking French men who have the is this

01:06:49next gas is our she is all right you

01:06:53know this is the last tango in Paris

01:06:55crap and I mean who's left a bunch of

01:07:00pompous self-important compliant do

01:07:03gooders with no empathy for the next

01:07:05generation and I'm not even blaming

01:07:07them that much that's just who's been

01:07:09left right how do I join to talk fdrurl.com

01:07:14slash live call

01:07:14I was married to a therapist trained

01:07:25PhD to someone and can say she and the

01:07:27group she hung out were a mess I learned

01:07:31and grew more from your work by far my

01:07:33brother now went to therapy said the

01:07:34same thing your work is priceless I thank

01:07:36you thank you very much the fdrurl.com

01:07:43slash live call only works on tablets

01:07:45and desktop computers somebody says I

01:07:49can vouch for sentence completion I've

01:07:50been doing it for a couple of years and

01:07:52I feel lighter and my life has changed

01:07:54for the better good it was May 2005 the

01:08:00Tom Cruise went on Oprah says Steve and

01:08:02got all these hit pieces another jumping

01:08:06on the couch on oh yeah November 16th

01:08:112005 the South Park released its

01:08:12Scientology episode yeah for sure

01:08:14yeah well the other thing too of course

01:08:27is you know if people are miserable it

01:08:28could also be because they're making

01:08:29terrible lifestyle choices right they

01:08:31could be drinking too much they could be

01:08:33not getting enough sleep they could be

01:08:35overeating they could be not exercising

01:08:37there could be any number of reasons

01:08:38that may not be based upon moral blah

01:08:44blah blah but you know a lot of it may

01:08:45be based on on all that sort of stuff

01:08:46right

01:08:47Steve says I expect the chemical

01:08:52imbalances seen which come from poor

01:08:56choices and living without virtue our

01:08:57nature's evolutionary mechanism designed

01:08:59to ensure the changing of behaviors and

01:09:01moving away from the toxic influences etc

01:09:03yeah if that's true then avoiding those

01:09:06symptoms by taking medication is about

01:09:07the worst thing you could do it reminds

01:09:10me of how people with back pain

01:09:12immediately get prescribed painkillers

01:09:13which encourage people to carry on doing

01:09:15the things which cause the pain that's

01:09:16interesting any plans to make it

01:09:19compatible with DOS are you talking

01:09:21about the call-ins yeah we don't have

01:09:23choice over that that's a yeah that's

01:09:27not our our technology it's not our our

01:09:29code all right any other last calls

01:09:33questions topics issues I mean obviously

01:09:35I have a lot of stuff that I like to

01:09:36talk about but we've had a big old chunk

01:09:39of topics going on and maybe James we

01:09:44should look into it's been a while since

01:09:46you've done anything on Bitcoin maybe we

01:09:47should look into that as to why it's had a

01:09:50a wee bit of a dip it's funny how it

01:09:52becomes a dip when it goes down but it's

01:09:54still vastly higher than it was a year

01:09:56ago right all right

01:09:58boom boom boom boom all right any other

01:10:05last questions issues challenges comments

01:10:07problems any thoughts so what do you guys

01:10:10think about releasing this to the general

01:10:12I don't want to make it like every show

01:10:14we release to the general pop but given

01:10:16that we didn't have any private calls

01:10:18any sort of back and forth with people

01:10:22who might have released more information

01:10:24because they are talking a don't call

01:10:27what do you guys think about putting

01:10:28this out as a general stream thing hit me

01:10:32with a y if I did see the h1n veneer took

01:10:37all of elon's xai source code yeah didn't

01:10:40he fire a lot of white engineers and then

01:10:41the Chinese engineer ran off with all the

01:10:45code yeah very very sad very sad well you

01:10:50know I guess I guess people have to learn

01:10:53learn the hard way about in-group

01:10:54preference and you know well anyway it's

01:10:59funny you know because when I did business

01:11:02in China in the year 2000 I went from an

01:11:05extended trip to Morocco for y2k for like

01:11:10to have something memorable and fun for

01:11:11y2k which I did and then I went to spend

01:11:14a couple of weeks doing business in China

01:11:16going around and doing presentations and

01:11:17I found the Chinese people very nice very

01:11:20warm very friendly and so on but those

01:11:23these were all people who weren't

01:11:25associated with the communist party but

01:11:27you know the communist party has a lot

01:11:31of control over the citizens I mean some

01:11:34of the people I think you're doing this

01:11:35stealing and you got to do this or that

01:11:37or you know the stuff that happened in I

01:11:40think it was in Winnipeg a whole bunch of

01:11:42funky stuff happened over COVID with stealing

01:11:46pathogens and viruses and so on I don't

01:11:51even know whether people are just making

01:11:53these choices or whether they just have

01:11:54too many threats from their totalitarian

01:11:57ish government so who knows right well

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01:12:34the donors and I appreciate your patience

01:12:35as I uh I sled around on X and have a

01:12:38complete affair on the core donors um thank

01:12:41you for your patience I apologize I will

01:12:44be back all right have yourself an

01:12:46absolutely wonderful afternoon I will

01:12:48talk to you soon and um I can't wait for

01:12:50you guys to read this new book holy crap

01:12:52it is unbelievably good like even by my own

01:12:56standards I am out ripping and have created

01:12:58the realest people I think I've ever seen

01:13:00in literature and I can't it's it's

01:13:03physically painful for me to end this book

01:13:04because I've gotten to know these

01:13:05characters so well so I hope that you'll

01:13:07enjoy it when it comes out um it is about

01:13:10corruption all right thanks everyone lots of

01:13:12love

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