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00:00Can we trust our justice system to find out we're reenacting a British mother's
00:19trial for murder? You've told this court that you stabbed him because he was
00:23strangling you? Yes. Well that's not possible is it? Using the actual court
00:27transcripts why did you lie? I was scared I was terrified with actors a single stab
00:34wound punctured an artery coming out of the heart the subjects of this
00:39groundbreaking experiment are 12 ordinary people I don't think anyone can
00:44really understand what it's like to be on a jury till you're on a jury it just
00:48doesn't feel fair their job to deliver justice I'm so sorry bring them my
00:55emotions into it but is the jury system fit for purpose no I'm done I'm done I'm not
01:05having it we have absolutely no legal training some people are so adamant in
01:09their thought that the evidence doesn't matter can they decide who's telling the
01:14truth he was an aggressive volatile man that's a lie will they make a just
01:20decision there's a clique we were going one way and that's the only way for
01:25God's sake everybody in this room needs to grow up I don't need to be spoken to
01:30like that I'm sorry and will they reach the same verdict as the jury in the
01:34original trial called calculated murder sorry are we listening to the same
01:40evidence
01:42good morning it's the final day of evidence in the trial of Sophie Farlow good morning
02:07everybody tomorrow the jurors will begin deliberations to reach a verdict
02:16outcome 12 people hear the exact same thing and some come this way and some
02:21come that way I am going to face for Sophie I believe that she acted in
02:29self-defense and how long does it go on for if you've got 12 people in a room who
02:33generally like I'm not budging we have all heard the same evidence but it's clear
02:39that we've all interpreted it differently it's not going to be easy we're not
02:43going to have all of the evidence we're not going to have all of that we'll
02:45have to make decisions yeah I don't think acquittal is an option I think it's a
02:52terrible crime what she's done I'm adamant that this was not murder if Sophie
02:58were sentenced to 20 years in prison for this I see that as a huge injustice really
03:04hope it doesn't get aggressive I don't want to be screamed at I don't want to
03:08shout out and I don't want to be judged for my views I feel like the room is
03:12definitely geared up towards the accused it worries me because I think we're
03:18gonna have to go to war
03:21before the closing speeches the defense want to introduce a final new piece of
03:30evidence morning members of the jury the defense case throughout has been that
03:35Sophie was acting in self-defense when she stabbed Ryan and so should be acquitted
03:41but if the jurors rejects that the defense still want them to rule out murder
03:46and find her guilty of manslaughter instead they've called a specialist
03:53psychiatrist to explain why dr. Danbridge could you tell the court please what
04:00you have been instructed to do I was asked to consider if Miss Farlow has a
04:06borderline personality disorder and if so whether that could have been part of the
04:11reason that she stabbed mr. Hargrove and what is the relevance of those
04:16questions to this jury well if someone kills someone in significant part
04:22because they're suffering from an abnormality of mental functioning then
04:26according to the law they should not be found guilty of murder they should be
04:30found guilty of manslaughter and is your opinion that Sophie fellow does have a
04:37borderline personality disorder I think it's fairly clear that she does can you
04:45tell the court what that means in layman's terms she has problems controlling her
04:50emotions she suffers extreme feelings extreme fear extreme worthlessness extreme
04:56temper and anger she's unable to manage them in a way that most people do I mean
05:02she's impulsive and her relationships are intense and chaotic did her childhood
05:08contribute to this undoubtedly she grew up in atmosphere of emotional abuse and neglect
05:14when she was a baby her father stabbed her mother in the leg and was arrested he was taken to a secure
05:24mental unit and effectively vanished from her life when her older sister died she remembers her mother was so
05:33distraught that she kept her corpse in an open coffin for some days in the house
05:38oh which would have been an extremely disturbing event in early childhood indeed yes growing up Sophie did not
05:51experience love from either parent and that is known to seriously affect your ability to form loving relationships
05:57relationships as an adult as a teenager she began drinking heavily from 13 she was in sexual relationships from that age as well and estimates that she's had upwards of 50 one night stands in her life
06:14we know that she was a victim of domestic violence in at least some of her longer relationships
06:22one partner hospitalized her with a fractured skull
06:26and yet in your report you say she doesn't recognize her own experience as traumatic
06:37yes it's common for people with traumatic childhoods not to understand how harmful they were
06:43because to them it just became or seemed normal she almost believes she deserves to be a victim of
06:50violence and how could this have contributed to the incident with ryan hargrove if she was in
06:58conflict with him that night and felt attacked or threatened by him i believe her personality disorder
07:05could have contributed to her impulse to stab him in that moment and so do you believe that she should
07:12not be found guilty of murder according to the law i believe she should not be convicted of murder
07:18the odds were stacked against her from the minute she was born it just makes me feel you never had a chance and now this is it
07:26you never had a chance and now this is it it's like was this always written was this always going to be your path
07:35i feel like a massive turning point has been hearing from the psychologists
07:43the eyes of the law whether you feel comfortable about it or not that says to me this is not a case of murder
07:52i'm not an expert but i just thought i don't know it just sounded like a string of excuses
08:03the prosecution believe that sophie did commit murder they now call a different psychiatrist who agrees
08:13dr kensington you have assessed miss fairlow in person yes do you believe that she has a personality
08:26disorder my view is that she does but that it is mild or at most moderate in her case it is not severe
08:35and do you believe that it contributed substantially to her stabbing ryan hargrove no
08:45why not because it is mild in my view alcohol is by far the greater factor in this case why do you say
08:58that when the defendant drinks her judgment is impaired and her behavior changes and as as she
09:07herself knows full well and has admitted alcohol was implicated in most of her convictions for assault
09:14and on the night of the incident we know that she'd been heavily drinking but of course being affected
09:22by drink is not a permitted defense to murder no uh the law doesn't exonerate you from a crime simply because
09:30you voluntarily drank too much before committing it thank you that was our final witness my lord
09:38thank you
09:41we shall begin closing arguments this afternoon
09:47it's difficult for us as lay people when they're arguing over points of law obviously i'm not a
09:57psychologist so i know very little about borderline personality disorders i don't feel none the bleeding
10:02why i said i'm hearing all this information feel like it's added arguments to loads of things
10:09but actually helped you yeah it's very hard that the two experts don't agree they're both experts so you
10:16can't really say who who's the more qualified i suppose so i suppose you just got to decide for
10:22yourself i don't think i got much from that i think i've got more questions and answers than what i got from
10:26that i did because i've always said that every time she drinks she smashes someone's head in
10:33i was more tended to believe the drink was responsible
10:37the purpose of that last witness was simply there to cause us doubts i know it sounds kind
10:45of harsh but he's he's a gun for hire he's he's there to say whatever he's being paid to say
10:51none of us in the jury room none of us jurors are psychologists or psychiatrists and so we don't
10:57really know but i think that borderline personality disorder is likely to be a defense for sophie's
11:02actions that's all it was it was to cause confusion and doubt it didn't affect me that
11:07no no it didn't change my view either no like yeah we already knew that she was on on the ale
11:12dr kensington's approach to sort of label it all on alcoholism your reputation can go up your ass mate
11:19it's now time for the jury to hear the final closing speeches the prosecution are first
11:41members of the jury it is easy and right to feel sorrow for sophie fairlow
11:48she plainly had a difficult start to life but that is no justification for murder
11:59you have heard the facts and they tell us that sophie fehler was not simply a victim
12:06her own words were i let all my anger out when i am drunk and you have heard the long awful history
12:15of her violence towards others that that has resulted in even if ryan was dying sophie's thoughts
12:23were not for him they were for herself and how to cover up what she had done
12:30she hides the knife she lies to his own brother she delays medical help unforgivably
12:38letting him bleed to death in her living room she lies to the paramedics and police when they arrive
12:45pretending not to have known he's been stabbed
12:51even then she continues to lie here in this court to you
12:59she says she was defending herself in the kitchen well you have seen that kitchen and it is simply
13:08not possible for two people to fight in the way that she describes without the tiniest bit of damage
13:15or disturbance to anything on the kitchen unit no one will know for sure what happened that night but
13:24you can be sure it did not happen as she claims and whatever problems that she had had in her life
13:33growing up cannot excuse that and that is why we say to you as tragic as it all was that we believe
13:47that you must find her guilty of murder
14:04it's now the turn of the defense to give their closing speech
14:08nothing that i want to say to you in this speech is intended in any way to detract from the tragedy of
14:21ryan hargrove's death and if nothing else i hope we can all agree that domestic violence
14:27is incredibly complex and nuanced there are no stereotypes there are no model victims
14:33so the fellow has told us that she was defending herself when she killed ryan hargrove the prosecution
14:43must prove to you that she wasn't in order to find her guilty of murder
14:49we say they have failed
14:53we know that ryan was capable of violence towards sophie you've seen it with your own eyes when he throws
14:59her to the ground like a rag doll you've seen it in the texts threatening to break people's noses
15:09why would sophie stab him if she hadn't been in fear of her life
15:17they have utterly failed to supply any credible motive or alternative version of events
15:23we have seen his anger
15:31can you really be sure that he didn't attack her as she says absolutely sure
15:40because if there is any reasonable doubt you cannot convict her of murder
15:47it is appalling that she lied after the event it is appalling
15:56she was upset and scared she was in trauma and she panicked
16:01but those early lies do not make her guilty of murder
16:05i want to close by considering diminished responsibility
16:16we say that whatever happened that night her personality disorder is relevant
16:25the law around medical conditions is clear
16:28you cannot hold someone fully responsible for behavior caused significantly by a medical condition
16:40at the very most she should only be found guilty of manslaughter
16:48whatever else she may be sophie furlough is not a murderer
16:53members of the jury it is now for you to decide what actually happened in this case
17:03and return your verdict
17:06it must be unanimous on which all 12 of you are agreed thank you very much
17:12i don't want to start talking shop straight away
17:23but it's murder mate that's what i didn't care no it's 100% murder
17:29i need you to help me get back it's not like it's not like them versus honest like it is
17:34oh my god oh guys it's like serious isn't it the jury must now come to a unanimous verdict
17:46james has been selected as foreman to manage the discussions i'm feeling additional pressure now that
17:52i've been elected as the chair the risk is that this leads to a stalemate leads to an inability to come
18:00to a verdict so i think that i think would probably be useful would be to do a little bit of like a litmus test
18:10of where people are as a starting point
18:15well over the last couple of days nothing's really changed for me the only decision that i can reach
18:23at this moment in time is murder for me i am going to say right now that i think acquittal
18:34acquittal's not really on the table for me yeah i'm leaning towards murder she willingly stabbed him
18:41so for me i'm on murder at the moment i'm looking at um acquittal because i don't think it's been proved
18:48um so um for the first time ever i'm learning leaning towards acquittal because i believe
18:55yeah does andre and she was acting in self-defense for me it's quite plausible that she had diminished
19:05responsibility so i'm leaning towards manslaughter um as i stand at the moment personally acquittal is off
19:13the table for me like i'm leaning more towards acquittal i believe in the likelihood of this being
19:22self-defense therefore i am going to go on acquittal i think that on the balance of probability
19:31the whole thing of mental functioning diminished responsibility had a significant impact
19:35and that leads me to sort of at the moment sit in the space of manslaughter the only thing i can
19:43say at this stage that i'm definitively sure of is that i'm not sure
19:53we are poles apart i am very concerned i don't feel it's likely that we'll reach a unanimous verdict
20:01if a jury can't agree the only way to get a verdict is to run the entire trial again in front of a
20:09different jury there has to be a retrial the defendant remains under a cloud of serious uncertainty
20:20the deceased has not had justice delivered a home jury for me would be the worst possible outcome
20:27and that to me says we've not done our job but it says me now personally as foreman has not done
20:32his job properly that would be devastating what we need to do now is decide collectively whether or not
20:41it was self-defense sophie's central claim is that she stabbed ryan to stop him strangling her
20:48but she admitted lying to the police and emergency services on the night
20:52i don't think she was acting in self-defense at all because i don't think the defense self-defense
20:57took place you think her account of the night was a lie sophie's version of events on that night
21:06is only sophie's version of events for me we cannot take this as fact just saying oh well she lied
21:13about this she's a liar she's this she's that some lies are a little bit more of a white lie
21:19white lies to me seems like a little bit of a lie these are absolute whoppers which she's talking
21:26all the marbles let's be honest i can't believe it so i'm struggling it's difficult and people have
21:33got strong views and strong passions and somebody's not i mean as a compliment as a compliment i'm
21:37saying like nobody else though just me and dave because just me and dave it's not a slight at all
21:44it's it's actually maybe you shouldn't just point it to anyone okay fair enough
21:47there are people with very loud opinions out there and it scares me a little bit
21:54i want us to be able to come together
21:59the question is are you sure that sophie wasn't
22:04defending herself and i don't think she was but not thinking isn't the state of fact
22:09i get it but i actually think i think can you show us where the facts are yeah the fact that she
22:15allowed the man to die that's not that's not anything to do right let's let's stop this right
22:26because exactly and you're just allowing that to happen allowing her to say these things
22:32we've got a real problem clashes are happening now amongst the jury raised voices and strong words
22:38which is absolutely terrifying that this can happen when we're supposed to be focusing purely on
22:42somebody's liberty and somebody who's died we have to put any issues with other people in the room
22:49aside god not even see stop but ultimately ultimately we have to stop doing okay you don't
22:55have to everybody in this room i'm not even going there he's going good luck everybody in this room
23:02you have to listen to me do you i do because i'm unfortunately sat next year can we end it
23:07we are not going to come to a verdict if we carry on acting like insolent children for god's sake it's
23:13ridiculous can we all just agree to behave like adults yes please any of the any of the personal
23:23stuff stop making either way my view and yeah i'm going to give me like it anymore um my view is
23:36that there's a clique who are going one way and that's the only way like dave but dave said quite
23:42clearly i'm not seeing my view on this you know we're not dealing with like rational
23:53names you look knackered mate are you okay
23:57it's really exhausting it seems insurmountable what's going on
24:03not letting anyone down
24:19after the first day of deliberation the jury are released
24:22it would be ridiculous i think said that this trial didn't bring stuff up
24:35it's taken back to my experience before the age of 11 i think my my upbringing in my life was pretty
24:45normal somebody was kind of brought into my life who caused a lot of pain
24:56i was a victim so it went to court i really vividly remember the first time i saw the jury
25:04i was talking about these terrible things sobbing and was looking at just a sea of blank faces
25:17the jury failed in their job because they couldn't reach a decision
25:24overall it was a home jury
25:26as soon as i was told i just like broke down so all that was going through my whole being was
25:37this has been so traumatic this whole process of doing it for nothing
25:44even if it had been not guilty at least it would have been a decision
25:48i will push for for a verdict because i didn't get that
26:06james has written to the judge saying a unanimous verdict seems impossible
26:12he's just received a message back
26:13the judge has granted a majority with a 10 to 2 waiting wow then hopefully this will help us to
26:27to progress yeah we can do this guys we can now only 10 jurors need to reach agreement
26:35you've got a group of strong this is murder i then feel you've got a group of jurors who
26:41we're going to be more open to an acquittal verdict so it's trying to change people's minds the jury now
26:51consider reasonable doubt according to the law they must acquit sophie if they aren't completely sure
26:59of the prosecution's case my view is that the prosecution have not provided enough evidence where
27:06i can be sure that the stabbing did not take place in my kitchen
27:13if you can't 100 be sure you are unsure it's that simple to me for me i think the fear of
27:23letting somebody have basically bought and sold me and lied to me through their teeth and
27:29put themselves in a situation where they have got away with it is really really terrifying to me
27:36because of that my instinct is that we should be looking at manslaughter but on the other side of
27:43that is not being sure and sending somebody to jail for 20 years for something you're not sure you
27:49haven't been absolutely convinced that they don't that kills me on a personal level i'm trying to take
27:53all of this on dispassionately the question is are you sure and i might agree that it's unfair but it's
28:02not what we're being asked we're being asked to be sure okay um this is about trying to take away
28:12feelings from the process and whether i like it or not you're right there is no proof
28:17it's pointing me towards acquittal um i'm really really uncomfortable with that but under those
28:27circumstances i'm saying acquit you okay do you need any water mate you okay i think that
28:40the prosecution have given evidence that the whole thing has been made up however
28:47i agree that they have not in my opinion proved beyond reasonable doubt we have to make the
28:57decision we have to make the decision based on what we have and this is really hard because
29:05logically my answer takes me to not guilty but my overall doesn't match that and that's that's really
29:11hard that's really really hard i have to say which i did not think i'd be saying at the start i
29:16have to say not guilty so acquittal yeah wow
29:26i think we'll do it i think we'll reach a majority verdict
29:30the jury is now just three votes short of a decision
29:35there's seven of us who are given a verdict of acquittal it seems that's the way
29:40the route is going it's just it's trying to convince the minority to listen the jury is sort of swinging
29:51towards self-defense gotta fight because uh otherwise i might just go home i for one i'm a little bit
29:58concerned that i'm going to get caught up in the moments well i'm really really struggling to get past
30:04anything but murder i 100 appreciate and acknowledge how difficult this must be for you guys if you
30:13strongly believe something morally so you've got to change what you believe i think a lot of it comes from
30:23maybe stubbornness maybe pride rather than collectively listening to everything it's okay to change your
30:31opinion i think you know out of out of the room you've been one of the most vocal throughout it may be
30:38a case of you're going against what you morally believe as well so it's now just being able to think
30:44i might have to change my view even though it's your belief people are being too stubborn the prospect
30:54of a hung jury just doesn't sit well with me at all i'll be honest with you i'm struggling
31:03i'm sorry like but i can't get my head around
31:06that she stabbed him minutes later she phones an ambulance calm as anything she had every chance
31:19to give information i don't see where the self-defense comes in when he's lying on a carpet dying
31:29she might not want to stab him that's self-defense get off me
31:36but to leave him for 45 minutes dying listening to his last breath she went over and then told his
31:43brother fraser and told him lies and it's lie after lie after lie and the only reason you lie
31:50is because you're hiding the truth she could have saved his life
31:59i'm sorry but that's the way i see it thank you dave that's spot on
32:07i just feel that i can't say that yet she set out to let him die i just think everything else around
32:14it is too chaotic you've just got to take a step back have a little minute to analyze and think has
32:19the prosecution done enough to convince me of this or haven't be they're stronger in numbers just
32:27dismissing us i feel like they're using their influence to to shrink us
32:41we're fucked i can't believe they're not listening i can't believe people are dismissing
32:47i know they believe their own minds honestly i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm stunned i know i am
32:56they're taking her word for it but you can't take her word for it exactly all she done was
33:00fucking like there is no factual physical evidence and they are speaking as if the evidence that they've
33:05got is factual it's not i feel like i'm in an alternate universe someone help me out please
33:13acquittal lads oh what are we gonna do with what i'm not changing i'm not changing i'd rather have
33:22a long jury no because they're not i'm not doing not doing it straight up is a hung jury
33:41okay kids yeah lads just a bit of therapy banging my head against the desk
33:46in the trial of sophie fairlow the jury are in stalemate three short of the 10 required for a
33:56verdict it's just fucking useless yeah a hung jury it'd be a massive discredit to everyone involved
34:05because ultimately we've sort of failed
34:10we have to make the decision but there are people who just aren't willing to budge
34:15so as it stands we're not near 10 to 2 yet um there are people who are 100 murder 100 believing
34:25acquittal to come up with something that can satisfy both parties it's got to be a compromise
34:32that's what makes me think the only way to deal with this is going to be the verdict of manslaughter
34:39realistically there are two possible outcomes a hung jury
34:45or manslaughter it's not about being happy with it's not about settling on a charge
34:52but we need to reach a decision
34:54for me for me a hung jury is out of the question and murder is also out of the question it is in
35:01middle ground i think this is no way near murder but i do take into account a lot of the things that
35:16people have put forward it's um for me i can see why there's some degree of validity in arguing for a
35:24manslaughter position i feel the only rightful thing to do in this situation is to make a decision and i
35:33feel this is the only decision as a 12 we could make it's possible but i don't i don't know where to go
35:42with it i'm unsure there's a lot of pressure to get to the verdict i wanted a prison sentence because
35:51there'd be justice for ryan's family it's very very very hard i'd like to do a vote the jury decide to
35:58hold a secret ballot everyone now votes privately on whether they would accept a verdict of manslaughter
36:05to avoid a hung jury one for manslaughter one against manslaughter they need 10 jurors to agree
36:17to come to a verdict you can feel it you can feel the tension in the room we don't know how it's going
36:23to go another one for manslaughter another one for manslaughter it's not a nice feeling when you're
36:33getting your arm twisted but you've also got to sit back and say what's the best option here i knew
36:39i was in a fight that i couldn't win one for not manslaughter one for manslaughter
36:49one for manslaughter in my heart it's murder but i feel like i can't fight for murder
36:57one for manslaughter and another for manslaughter
37:02they just felt like i had no choice for hung jury and i could not live myself knowing that that
37:08woman was out in society walking amongst us like nothing had happened
37:16one for manslaughter
37:19another for manslaughter
37:23one against manslaughter
37:25the jury is now just one vote short of a majority verdict
37:41can i just say i was one who said no but i just don't know
37:46i am one of them i am happy to say i am one of the three
37:52i come into this process i don't know why i'm getting emotional what the fuck
37:56i come into this process and i said i will not if it's what i believe i will not conform
38:07so just appealing to the three is there any capacity that you could reconsider
38:11and i know that's an uncomfortable question to ask but ultimately it just takes one of yours
38:19it has to be ten to two it's hard i understand and i know it's hard sorry to interrupt you feel like
38:24you feel like you're either failing people's families but then also
38:29you're failing yourself we accept we accept yours it just doesn't feel no i know fair
38:36i don't understand how we've gone from this to this so quickly
38:48i'm not budging i'm not going down the middle because it's easier i'm not doing it sorry
38:56i'd also like to put on record that i weren't being stubborn i believe that my decision
39:00i have done in the right way you almost feel like you're the bad guy
39:06but is a hung jury worse than the wrong decision
39:14unreal i feel like we had to compromise because otherwise there's been a hung jury
39:19but we're like super glued it's upsetting they might look like they're listening but they're not
39:25listening the only person who is likely to change their mind would be kate i agree i agree and kate
39:32being able to swear and we should hear from her i don't know what it is it's just hard
39:38to move from a quill that's fair enough guys it's because you believe it and that's what that's how
39:43you feel not that i'm not budging i just don't know i don't know and it's a lot
39:49there's a lot of eyes staring at me like waiting for me to make a decision time is ticking and going
39:58to a home jury would just be unfair it wouldn't be a fair trial can everybody who is voting for
40:05manslaughter please raise the hand i feel like i was saying manslaughter
40:16so we've obviously come collectively not with
40:28unanimity but with the majority to the verdict of manslaughter
40:32i don't think anybody can it's just horrible it's been so so hard
40:38we can go home we can go for we can go for the vodka i don't agree with the way the decision was
40:43made today manslaughter was used as a compromise that's how we come to a decision it's a nightmare
40:54i don't think anybody should be compromising it's not like going out to buy your favorite cereal
40:59and you've ran out so you've got to buy a similar one take manslaughter is still a really significant
41:05portion of somebody's life the outcome is unbelievably unfair i don't feel it's justice for ryan's family
41:18feel a bit cheated i don't think it's justice because we had to compromise
41:23i'm relieved we have come to a verdict which i didn't think was going to happen
41:34i think it was the only verdict that our group of jurors could have come up with
41:41welcome back members of the jury will the foreman please stand
41:55have you reached a verdict yes
42:03on the charge of murder what is your verdict not guilty
42:11on the charge of manslaughter
42:16what is your verdict guilty
42:25mr foreman please take a seat
42:29sophie farlow you have been convicted of the manslaughter of ryan hargrove
42:38please can miss fairlow be led away
42:50thank you this trial was based on a real trial
42:55i can now tell you the verdict in the original trial
42:59i don't want to know the jury found the defendant
43:08guilty of murder oh my god
43:13by a majority of ten to two
43:16the judge told the defendant as he sentenced to having heard you give evidence
43:29i am sure that your account of being strangled is untrue
43:35i am unconvinced that you have as yet any real remorse for having caused his death
43:48he sentenced her to life imprisonment
43:53imposing a minimum term of 17 years before she could be considered for parole
44:00thank you you're all dismissed
44:15but it's heavy on you isn't it thank you
44:27what a channel what a channel
44:34god i just thought i'm just done with today i'm just done
44:36now i feel like i've spent two weeks defending a maird wreck do you know what i mean
44:46it doesn't mean that their decision was right it just means that ours was different
44:53manslaughter's better than nothing again yeah i know that's what i mean
44:55i would have been
45:10the kind of complexity and the expectations that are put on untrained people to
45:16make the justice system work that is terrifying
45:25the jury system is definitely not fit for purpose
45:30we're just 12 completely normal people from different walks of life
45:35who ultimately didn't have a clue where to even begin
45:42i would not like to be tried by a jury
45:45someone's life is ultimately in your hands with no training no guidance nothing
45:50the jury system is definitely not fit for purpose that's because we didn't know what
45:57what we were doing it should be someone's actual job they should be trained in it
46:02i felt ill-equipped and i still feel ill-equipped
46:06being a juror is a massive responsibility that i certainly won't be seeking out in future
46:12you feel extremely responsible and you don't feel like you've got the right background to to make decisions
46:24i believe that juries currently are the best way we've got to do things however juries can be better supported
46:30being a juror is one of the most hardest things i've ever done in my life ever
46:51so
47:00so
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