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The Beechgrove Garden 2025 episode 22
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00:00Hello and welcome to this week's Beach Grove Garden.
00:17And welcome to my competition pot, Brian.
00:21It's looking a wee bit tired, but, you know, I've got a plan.
00:27The judging is happening in a month's time,
00:30but I still think there's time for me to pull things back.
00:34I know. Hopefully, fingers crossed.
00:36Don't be too hard on yourself.
00:37So, yeah, you're right, Carol's going to be back in the building
00:39in four weeks' time and she's going to be judging.
00:42But remember, she's judging on colour and production.
00:46So your peas are maybe looking poor, but they've been very productive.
00:49And it's an unusual colour.
00:51Yeah, I think also this pot has been maybe a little bit drier.
00:55The weather's been against me, you know, things have been tough.
00:59But, you know, I've got a plan.
01:01The tromboncino was supposed to have climbed up here.
01:03It's only produced one bit of fruit.
01:05So what I'm going to do is I'm going to cut that off.
01:08I'm going to take off any of the flowers,
01:10give it a really good feed twice a week,
01:12and hopefully that might spur it on to create some new growth
01:16and climb that bit higher.
01:18One last sprint to the finish line.
01:20Definitely, definitely.
01:21I must admit, I'm going to commend you, though, for your calendulas.
01:24They look absolutely stunning.
01:25What about the colour of these beads?
01:27I really like that. Very nice.
01:28They're a type called aurora, and actually you can eat the flowers.
01:32Everything here is edible, all the flowers.
01:35And the peas, which are looking a wee bit tired,
01:38got a bit of mildew, they've been battered in the storm,
01:41they're going to be replaced with some beautiful dahlias called castillo.
01:45And, of course, they're edible as well. Great for salads.
01:48Fingers crossed.
01:50Meanwhile, here's what's coming up in the rest of the programme.
01:55Seceteers out for some summer pruning.
01:58First, it's the laburnum.
02:00Then the apple trees get a trim.
02:04We go tropical in Carnoustie.
02:06And the last of our visits to a beautiful Borders Japanese garden.
02:21Well, this is a nice wee workout, Lizzie, yeah?
02:23It is a bit.
02:25But in this part of the garden we've been experimenting with,
02:28you know, different mowing regimes, you know,
02:30not cutting the grass.
02:31And as you can see behind you,
02:33it's amazing what wildflowers are hiding amongst our lawns
02:36because look at the colour that we've had all summer.
02:38I know, I'm spotting the Achillea, the vetch, the plantain,
02:42and all the thistles that were up.
02:44All the birds have been feeding on them all summer long.
02:46It's been great for the wildlife.
02:48Yeah, increasing biodiversity in your garden,
02:50that's what we're all about, isn't it?
02:51Definitely.
02:52But again, I totally get it.
02:53This might be just a bit too much for some people.
02:56We've gone full in here.
02:57You can just use a wee corner of your garden
02:59under a wee tree plantation maybe.
03:01But this is what I like.
03:03This is how I start doing it in my own garden.
03:06Every three weeks, cut the grass
03:08and you have the mower at the highest setting.
03:10Yeah, that's what I've been doing as well.
03:12And you know, it's really low maintenance
03:14and you can still see the clover still starting to pop up,
03:17which the bees are really going to love too.
03:19I know.
03:20But there's a wee bit of maintenance
03:22that we have to do at this time of year
03:25to get this wonderful effect.
03:27Yeah, so I'm going for the more traditional method.
03:29I'm using a scythe.
03:30I hope I'm not getting judged on my technique,
03:33but it is working.
03:34And you're going for...?
03:35I'm going for the strimmer.
03:37It's a little bit quicker.
03:38Yes, a bit easier.
03:39But we're not going right down, are we?
03:41No, only about 15 centimetres.
03:43Now, what you want to do is you want to be strimming it off
03:46and then leaving all those seed heads on.
03:48But before you do any of that, of course,
03:51you need to be thinking about all the wildlife
03:53that may be hiding in it.
03:54So what I like to do, just making sure that you agitate
03:58all the vegetation, just giving a chance for, like,
04:01the voles, the mice, the toads and frogs,
04:04just to go and hide in another section of the garden.
04:07And a great wee tip a few years ago
04:09from one of the beech groves.
04:10He actually just leaves a wee section
04:12so they can go in, hide in there,
04:14and then in a few weeks' time, once everything's settled down,
04:16that's when they can come back out
04:18and you can get in and tackle that area.
04:19Perfect.
04:20But you're right, we're going to leave,
04:21once we've chopped it down, we're going to leave it on the grass,
04:24even for a few days, but ideally a week.
04:26That lets all the seeds come out of their pods,
04:28they're going to settle into the ground,
04:30and whoosh, they'll come and germinate for us next year.
04:33Brilliant.
04:34But if you do want to have a go at it,
04:36a couple of wee things.
04:37If you know someone that's already doing this,
04:39get a wee pile of their clippings just now
04:41and you can put it on your lawn.
04:43But actually, autumn time for these perennials,
04:45so these are the ones that are going to come back year after year,
04:49autumn time's a great time for sowing a brand new patchy.
04:53I know, I might be collecting some of these
04:55and sticking it on my own garden.
04:56Right, well, we need to tidy this one first.
04:58Definitely.
05:06Well, if you have a laburnum in your garden,
05:11you have probably enjoyed beautiful chain-like blooms
05:15in May and June time.
05:17But now it is time to do a little bit of pruning,
05:20and it is a perfect time just now,
05:22right the way through until about mid-winter.
05:25Now, if you've got a freestanding laburnum tree,
05:27you probably don't need to be doing any sort of pruning
05:30apart from taking out the three Ds,
05:33any dead, diseased or damaged wood.
05:36However, if you've got a laburnum growing up an arch
05:39or a pergola or in a shape like this fan that we've got here,
05:44then what you really need to do is you need to be cutting back
05:48up to about one or two buds to make sure
05:52that you have all of those blooms in a really nice position.
05:56hanging down so that you can enjoy them.
06:00The reason why you're doing it between now and mid-winter
06:04is because the sap is going to be retreating back down
06:08into the tree's roots.
06:10Now, if you do it in spring,
06:13then the sap is going to have risen up,
06:16trying to feed all those buds to produce all the leaves.
06:20And then it means that the tree is going to bleed,
06:23and that's where infections and disease can enter into your tree,
06:27which you don't want.
06:29So to keep a really nice shape,
06:31what I'm going to do is I'm going to take it back
06:33to maybe one or two buds,
06:37all the way back there, just like that.
06:39Now, while you are pruning laburnum,
06:43it's really important that you wear gloves.
06:46And that's because the laburnum is really poisonous.
06:49And as you can see from here,
06:52underneath here where all the blooms have been,
06:55they create these little pea-like pods,
06:58which are really enticing to maybe children or animals.
07:02So what I would suggest is once they have finished flowering,
07:07that you come and remove all of those seed pods
07:11just to make sure that they're all cleared away
07:13and everybody stays safe.
07:15Now, while I finish this,
07:18it's time to visit a garden in Carnousie
07:21where the planting matches the temperature.
07:24They're both tropical.
07:25First-time gardener Colin Wilson has transformed his new build plot
07:31into a thriving tropical-style garden,
07:34proving that with the right care,
07:36bold, exotic plants can flourish even in a Scottish climate.
07:41For the first probably 15 years we've been here,
07:44it was more of a traditional garden.
07:46I wanted something with a bit of a wow factor,
07:49with an impact.
07:50And the large leaves is what was doing it.
07:54So, welcome to the jungle, as you can see.
08:01This is Musabaju banana.
08:04So, it's root hearty,
08:06which is really good here for the UK.
08:08And as you can see, giant leaves,
08:10and there's a lot of water and a lot of feeding.
08:12And when I first started on this journey,
08:14I was given all that advice,
08:15which was really helpful
08:17because mines were only about a foot tall
08:19and now I'm growing them to these size.
08:21How I can be successful and get them to this height,
08:23in Carnoustie, is in the winter what I do,
08:26again, all these lovely leaves.
08:28I chop them all off and then I put chicken wire around it.
08:32I use straw to fill it in.
08:34What that does, it keeps it dry, the stem inside.
08:37The next year you've got it starting from this height
08:40rather than a way down the root.
08:42Lots of protection,
08:43a fleece around the chicken wire at the end,
08:45a pot on top to keep it dry.
08:48And then in spring, take it off again
08:50and see they've survived
08:51and they're starting again from a good height.
08:53So again, if you want that jungly look,
08:55Musabaju, great for the UK.
08:57So we are now in my most favourite place in the garden.
09:10But this bad boy behind me, this is the culprit.
09:13It's the Fatsia japonica.
09:14As you can see from the size of it,
09:16it's a bit bigger than it was when I first bought it out
09:19for a few pounds out of a garden centre.
09:21I've lifted the leaves off below so I get a nice high canopy
09:24which will give me more shade and more protection.
09:27So all these other plants exist because of this one.
09:30So this one I have here is a Dixonia Antarctica,
09:34which is commonly known as the tree fern.
09:36These are extremely slow growing.
09:39This is great and we're in a summertime here
09:41and it's lovely, it's looking great.
09:43Yes, it is getting full sun at the moment
09:45and these do like the shade,
09:46but I do make sure that it's watered every day
09:49to keep it moist.
09:51And then I have some stakes around it here.
09:53which give it a bit of stability and keeps it upright.
09:56Looking after these things, it's not that difficult.
09:59It takes a bit of time and a bit of effort,
10:01but they can be looked after in this climate in Scotland.
10:04So in the winter months, I put a fleece in the crown
10:07to protect the crown because that's the growing point.
10:09So it's just like a big cosy blanket,
10:11keeping it warm in the winter.
10:12So to try and make sure that the crown doesn't close,
10:15what I've learned from people over the years doing this
10:18is that you have to let the roots almost like grow up the way.
10:21So you have to leave bits of the fronds on
10:24to always allow the roots to grow up the way
10:27and then the roots grow up and the crown grow with it.
10:29If you keep chopping them back,
10:31what I've seen and people wondering why
10:34sometimes their tree ferns don't grow
10:36is they've chopped them back too far
10:38and then the crown just sort of shrinks and shrinks
10:40and eventually it will die.
10:42I've left these old fronds.
10:44So in the wild, when they're grown in the wild,
10:46there'll be a lower canopy of other trees
10:49and the leaves from the other trees
10:50will fall down into the crown to protect it.
10:53And the old fronds, when they come down the side,
10:55as you can see here, they'll protect the side of it.
10:58So that's like the fleece.
10:59And then in August, you'll see a second grow of fronds as well.
11:02So that's kind of my canopy for this bottom bit of the garden as well.
11:05This is my little bit of protection here.
11:18So plant combinations.
11:20This plant here, the spotted laurel, as I call it,
11:23it's just an everyday run-of-the-mill plant
11:25and I like to mix it along with the tree ferns,
11:28just the ordinary ferns at the front and hostas.
11:31It also pops a colour coming through here throughout the year as well.
11:34Run-of-the-mill, bulletproof plant,
11:37but also mixing it together with the right texture,
11:40the right structure and leaf formation throughout the year.
11:43It gives you that tropical feel.
11:45So this plant here, the inseti, is the red banana.
11:57This is the only tender plant in my whole garden.
11:59As you can see, some of the leaves are slightly even damaged
12:03with the storm we had recently as well.
12:05But that's Scotland for you.
12:06These things happen.
12:07So in the winter, which usually is about November time with this plant,
12:12it has to get dug up, all the leaves chopped off,
12:15which it seems quite brutal at the time because it is so lovely,
12:19but you know you have to take care of getting things through the winter.
12:22So it gets dry, stored, turned the whole plant upside down,
12:25got all the water out of it.
12:27You'd be amazed how much water comes out of these things.
12:29So once it's dried off after a few days in November time,
12:32I just chuck it in the garage.
12:34I don't have a greenhouse and that's what works for me.
12:37And that's four years old and it's working really well.
12:40And then about March time or something, I'll put it in a pot
12:44and then I'll just, I won't water it.
12:47I'll just keep it in the pot or something,
12:48give it a few weeks in the pot once things start warming up.
12:50When the spring starts to come around,
12:52I'll start maybe watering it once a week.
12:54It comes alive the minute you put it back in soil,
12:56it just comes alive.
12:57And I actually don't know how I'm going to get in there in November
12:59to dig it out.
13:00But yes, I'll manage it somehow, things will be died back.
13:02But yes, it is definitely worth the effort, I would say.
13:10Earlier on, Lizzie was carrying out some seasonal pruning of the laburnum.
13:22Now it's time for me to take up the second tier baton
13:25and carry out some summer pruning of our apple trees.
13:29Now the pruning we want to do at this time of year
13:32is on our apple trees and our pear trees,
13:34but on the trained forums.
13:36So these are the ones like the cordons,
13:38where we grow at 45 degrees.
13:40The horizontal espaliers,
13:41where they have the lovely arms growing up the wall.
13:44And also the fan forums like we have here,
13:47which is one of the most productive ways
13:49of growing your apples and your pears.
13:51Now it's been a lovely, hot, sunny, bright summer,
13:55but today is a bit more like we have in the north of Scotland.
13:58And by removing some of the growth,
14:01we're actually letting what sunlight we do get in Scotland
14:08to ripen up the apple crops that are growing on the tree.
14:11Now that's for just now.
14:14But the other reason that we're doing the pruning is for next year.
14:17So as we remove this growth,
14:20we're actually stimulating the buds that are left behind
14:25to produce fruiting buds next year.
14:28So the work we do now is actually going to benefit us next year
14:31with more apples.
14:32And then lastly, by the time I've gone over this whole tree,
14:36it's going to reveal that lovely shape again.
14:39And I think that's quite important
14:41because I like to get all year round interest from a plant.
14:43So not only is this providing me with apples over the summer months,
14:48but it's going to create a lovely display up against my wall
14:51for over the winter months,
14:53make my garden looking interesting then.
14:55Now, it's getting quite late on in the year,
14:57but this is the perfect time for carrying out this job.
15:00If you do it too early in the season,
15:02good chances there's still a lot of energy in here
15:05and your plant's going to produce a second flush of growth,
15:08which won't have time to ripen.
15:10So over the winter months, it'll get attacked by the frosts
15:13and it'll be no use to you.
15:14You'll lose any apples that you would have grown on that stem.
15:17So what we're looking out for,
15:19I mean, look at the amount of growth that you get on one year.
15:21It's quite phenomenal on an apple.
15:23But the wood's quite soft.
15:25It's a wee bit of pliable at the top.
15:27But down near the base,
15:29when it started growing way back in April and in May,
15:32the wood's quite firm.
15:33So that's when we know this is the perfect time
15:35for carrying out the pruning.
15:37The next thing I want to do,
15:40I want to look out for the basal cluster.
15:43Now you want to identify
15:45where the pruning cut was made last year.
15:48And then at the beginning of the year,
15:50when you get all that energy,
15:51all that vigorous growth,
15:52you'll see two or three little buds,
15:55all in that one centimetre or so.
15:58And then from that point,
16:00I want to count one true bud,
16:03and then give it a wee snip.
16:05And then the stub that's left behind,
16:07as I say,
16:08will go on to produce apples for us next year.
16:11So once you've started,
16:12you've just got to go around the whole tree.
16:14By removing all that growth,
16:15I'm going to let a lot more air into the plant as well,
16:18blow all the beasties away.
16:20But it's a great little job.
16:21Perfect one for this time of year.
16:24Now, staying with trees,
16:26now's time to go and visit Irene Berry
16:28in her Japanese garden in the borders,
16:30where this week she's looking at the placement
16:33and planting of acers.
16:44Welcome back.
16:46The Japanese maples are looking lush and luminous
16:49in the summer shades of green, yellow, amber and red.
16:54Well, come autumn,
16:55they'll put on their best show yet
16:57with a dazzling display of gold, scarlet and bronze.
17:02Their changing colours throughout the seasons
17:05is truly a thing of wonder.
17:08The Japanese maple or acer
17:10is an essential element of Japanese gardens.
17:13It is associated with grace,
17:16elegance and the transient beauty of life.
17:20Most acers are slow growing,
17:23which makes them ideal for small spaces like my garden.
17:26They give height, impact and also an illusion of depth.
17:31For example, a Japanese acer planted on a raised mound
17:35with an open canopy like this one,
17:37draws your eye upward,
17:39as well as casting dappled shade.
17:42I have a mix of upright and weeping varieties of different sizes and foliage
17:49to layer the landscape.
17:55Over here is my favourite acer crimson cream,
17:59the beautiful burgundy leaves that turns a traffic light red in autumn.
18:04It has delicate lace-like leaves and it's a dwarf tree.
18:09It doesn't grow any taller than this.
18:11And over here...
18:12Acer palmatum katsura,
18:20an erect and upright tree with beautiful lobed leaves.
18:26Never taller than a small tree,
18:28it gives height without taking up a lot of space.
18:32The undulating mounds in my garden
18:35are integral to the design of a Japanese garden
18:39to evoke a sense of natural landscapes
18:42with streams, hills and overlapping views.
18:48But it's also out of sheer necessity for successful planting.
18:52The old cobbled courtyard has soil that was basically made of heavy clay
19:00and lots of rocks.
19:02And we tried to loosen the old soil as much as we could,
19:06digging out the rocks and improving it with good compost and grit.
19:11But we made sure that we also created mounds on top of them
19:16that are made of good compost and grit,
19:19ensuring good drainage.
19:21And for aces and other acid-loving plants,
19:25we forked in plenty of good ericaceous compost when planting.
19:30And they are doing really well
19:32because they were planting on raised mounds.
19:34Nothing kills them faster than being waterlogged
19:37or planted too deep.
19:40And they also like being in a sheltered site
19:42out of strong winds which can scorch their leaves.
19:46And this being a courtyard,
19:48this is relatively sheltered.
19:49Although I must say with the storms of late,
19:52they still get whipped about.
19:53But because they're healthy,
19:55they can withstand our Scottish weather.
19:58Once established, aces are quite easy to maintain.
20:11If I prune them at all, it will be to remove dead branches
20:15and to refine its overall shape.
20:17Today, I'll be pruning this Acer palmitum disectum.
20:23It's looking splendid with its sun-kissed ends of its leaves turning orange and red.
20:30But there are branches that are bare.
20:33And it's usual to see such natural dieback after a harsh winter.
20:39Generally, the best time to prune is in winter when the trees dormant.
20:44But for diebacks and other such light pruning,
20:47it's fine to do it in late autumn or late summer when the sap is falling.
20:53In any case, I find it easier to tell live wood from dead wood when there's foliage.
20:59So in this case, we can clearly see that this is dead wood.
21:03But if you're not sure, you can slightly scratch the bark.
21:07And if it's green, it's live.
21:09But it's obviously dead with very brittle, hard brown wood.
21:13But higher up here, the same branch, but there's a shoot here that's with live leaves.
21:21So it's still alive.
21:23So what we do is we make sure that we cut above a bud or a branch junction.
21:28And I'm quite sure that this one is dead.
21:31So we can just cut a snippet right at the branch junction.
21:35It's dead.
21:37And I noticed that there's another one here that's also dead.
21:42And so we just snip it.
21:44We just test.
21:45It's still brown.
21:46There's nothing green about it.
21:48Just snip.
21:50And that's it.
21:52Job done.
22:01Aces can be a standout feature for any garden,
22:04whatever the size, the setting, the style.
22:07And one of the precious things about Aces is that they become more and more beautiful as the years go by.
22:15That said, for me, the goal is not just about creating a beautiful garden.
22:21It's about creating a mood in the soul, a journey of contemplation and connection with nature.
22:32It's about celebrating the changing seasons of life.
22:37This is not a show garden, but a private sanctuary.
22:42It has been a joy to share it with you.
22:47Well, Lizzie, this area's bringing back a few memories for me.
23:02Back in 2017, we planted this area up, the zigzag border, where we're looking at all the different plants you can use that are suitable for making low-grown hedges.
23:12Because at the time, the best in the business box, it was a lot of health issues with that.
23:17So we were looking for something different.
23:18Yeah, ironically though, the box is looking super healthy.
23:22Typical.
23:23But you're right, it does have its problems with the blight and the caterpillar moth.
23:27You know, it can just decimate all your hedges.
23:29So having alternatives is really great.
23:33Yep. So the first one we've got here, we've got cotoneaster.
23:35I love cotoneaster as a plant.
23:37Anything that can give you seasonal interest all year round is just perfect for me.
23:42Lovely white flowers at the start of the year.
23:44And you can see all the berries starting to form now, cotoneaster simonzii.
23:48Yeah, the bees really love it.
23:49It really comes alive and buzzes in the springtime.
23:52Now, Carol and George were planting the yew a wee while ago, and that's a really nice traditional one, isn't it?
23:58Yep, brilliant.
23:59And then we've got the lavender.
24:01I love it.
24:02Yep.
24:03I love a lavender.
24:04Just walking past it, you brush against it, scent goes up into the air.
24:07Just wonderful.
24:08Now, linnocera, Bagginsons gold.
24:12Not sure about this one.
24:14It can make a lovely hedge, but look at all the dead patches that we've got in it.
24:18I reckon we give it over the winter, cut them out, see if we can get the fresh growth to fill in the space.
24:23But I'm 50-50 on that one.
24:24But you know, the berberus is looking really lovely and it adds a different colour to all the green hedges that we've got.
24:30Yeah, you're right.
24:31Gives you something different to work your perennials against, doesn't it?
24:33Spirea?
24:34I really like this because it's a more loose shape, isn't it?
24:38It's a more informal hedge, but when all of those flowers are in bloom, it's just like a sea of pink and it's just beautiful.
24:45Yeah.
24:46Magic carpet, that one's called.
24:48The top one, the euonymus.
24:49Now, it's lovely.
24:51It's looking really nice just now, but that was planted in 2017.
24:54That is the best I've ever seen it look.
24:56It seems to come and go.
24:58I don't think this is the right place for it.
25:00So, for me, there's another one we couldn't replace.
25:02But we do have a gap just now and you've got a wee suggestion of what we can be filling it up with.
25:06Yeah, we've got some osmanthus.
25:08Now, I really like osmanthus because it likes a free draining soil.
25:14It likes either sun or shade, so it can go anywhere in your garden, really, which is really great.
25:21Really slow growing, it's got a nice habit, so you can keep it nice and trimmed and in shape, so it's not going to grow all over the place.
25:29No.
25:30But if you don't forget to trim it, it also makes a brilliant shrub, gets about four metres high.
25:34We've actually got one in the back of the garden there.
25:36The reason we're growing this, though, is those lovely white flowers.
25:39What are they like?
25:40Definitely.
25:41So sweetly scented.
25:42Stunning.
25:43And it just fills the air in that early springtime and it's just wonderful.
25:47Just what we want.
25:48So, as you can see all around you, the soil is bone dry just now, so we've stuck a barrel load of leaf mould in here,
25:55of garden compost, whatever you can get your hands on, and that'll just bulk up the soil,
25:59so when the rains do finally come, it'll hold on to that moisture for us.
26:03We've also got some bone meal, which I've put some in the top two, three holes really, and this is just going to give the root system a good chance,
26:14and also putting it on the mounds of soil, which you're going to backfill in, is going to then give those roots around the side of the plants that bit of extra boost as well.
26:28Exactly. The quicker we get that root system established, the better.
26:31We've got a string line down, because we want to have a nice straight hedge.
26:35I'm sure my cutting, as the years go on, will make it start to look a wee bit squiggly.
26:39But just now, at least it's going in the ground nice and straight.
26:41It's also showing you that it's going to be planted at the same level as well, which is always good.
26:45You don't want a hedge that's all dippy.
26:48Yeah. When you've taken the pot off, just give the roots a wee rub, try and get them loose, because that means they'll be off and frying as soon as you get them in the ground.
26:57They've also been really well watered, which is really important just to give them a really good start, because if you are planting in dry soil, all that moisture is going to be sucked out into the surrounding soil.
27:10Correct. And at long last, when they're in, they're quite tall plants.
27:15I think what I would do is maybe just get your secateurs and maybe just nip a wee bit of foliage off the top.
27:22That'll stop them getting blown around in the winter winds, but it'll also encourage more bushier side growth.
27:29And the last thing to do, give them a wee watering.
27:44Well, Brian, it's not the perfect weather to be sitting out in our lovely new satutery, which was developed this year.
27:51And I did a wee bit of designing in this area, and it was supposed to be all white.
27:56That was the design premise, and I think it's looking really quite good.
28:00Yeah, I like it. I've never really sat in a white garden before, and I am finding it quite calming.
28:05And I like the way the cosmos are just standing out in this really grey afternoon now.
28:10What variety is it, I guess? That's fizzy white. Fizzy white, yeah, I do like it.
28:13George and Callum are here next week, and they are going to be really busy.
28:17George is preparing ground in the fruit cage for some new planting.
28:21Well, don't forget, you can catch every episode of the series so far on the BBC iPlayer,
28:25but from the two of us, it's bye for now.
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