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In an era where Hollywood is always looking for the next big reboot, what better place to find a piece of brilliant undiscovered IP than a store stuffed with some of the most obscure VHS tapes ever made? That’s not exactly what brought 'Caught Stealing' co-stars Austin Butler and Zoë Kravitz to Kim’s Video Underground at the Alamo Drafthouse in Lower Manhattan, but after digging through the stacks with Rolling Stone film critic David Fear, there may just be a Gymkata remake in Butler’s future.
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00:00Oh look! You're in this!
00:02Dune!
00:04Oh wow, this is the Lynch Dune.
00:06How about that?
00:08Sting, what a sexy man.
00:10You'd seen the Lynch Dune before you did the film with Denis, right?
00:12Yeah, sure.
00:14I feel like people give it short shrift, but it's a trip.
00:16Like you know it's a David Lynch movie.
00:18Sting and this.
00:20Sting wearing the world's greatest winged speedo.
00:22The codpiece.
00:24I saw that when I was 12 and it traumatized me.
00:26That was my sexual awakening.
00:28My name is David Fear.
00:30I am the senior film critic at Rolling Stone.
00:32We are here with Austin Butler, Zoe Kravitz.
00:35The stars of Hot Stealing.
00:41Darren Aronofsky's new movie, which is out August 29th.
00:43It has everything.
00:44It's got mohawks.
00:45It's got car chases.
00:47Bars in the Lower East Side, right?
00:48What else am I missing?
00:49It's got a cat.
00:50Yep.
00:51It's got Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler.
00:52And that is why.
00:53We are here today at Kim's Video.
00:55We're gonna walk around, take a look at some videotapes,
00:57talk about some movies.
01:04Come on.
01:06Did you go to the original Kim's Video?
01:08Yes, I did.
01:09So I was lucky enough that...
01:10I used to live there, man.
01:11Really?
01:12The one on St. Mark's.
01:13I never did that again.
01:14Exactly.
01:15When I first moved to this city, that was like the big video store that you went to.
01:18And they had a bunch of stuff you couldn't find anywhere.
01:21And a lot of stuff on the down low.
01:23A lot of stuff you couldn't...
01:24Maybe they shouldn't have been like renting out to folks.
01:26Wait, like what?
01:27Like porn?
01:28No.
01:29Well, yes.
01:30But also...
01:31I mean, it was the 90s.
01:32Was it behind a curtain?
01:33Remember that?
01:34Wow.
01:35Remember the porn section behind a curtain?
01:36I was never old enough to go behind the curtain.
01:37It's so weird.
01:38I should explain this to some of the younger viewers.
01:39Yeah, like what are you talking about?
01:40Back in the day, you couldn't download porn.
01:43You had to go to a video store.
01:44Let me explain what a video store was.
01:46Yeah.
01:47So, basically, you had to go to places.
01:49It was like a library.
01:50And then the video stores were basically the movie equivalent of that.
01:53So let's say you found After Hours.
01:55Oh, wow.
01:56Right?
01:57A movie which had a big influence on caught stealing, I imagine.
01:59You would rent this for somewhere between three days to five days.
02:04You guys got to work with the star of After Hours, Griffin Dunn, in this movie.
02:08How was that?
02:09I was so starstruck by him.
02:10Because this movie is incredible.
02:12I've never seen the VHS, actually.
02:13But this is the first film Darren and I talked about when we talked about making this film.
02:17And what a fun Scorsese movie.
02:19What do you want from me?
02:22It's a great movie.
02:23It's also so screwball comedy.
02:25Yeah.
02:26I mean, Griffin is so funny in this.
02:27Griffin's amazing in this film.
02:28Yeah, he's really funny and he has the world's best prison mustache in it, too.
02:32In our movie.
02:33In your movie, yeah.
02:34No, here he's Mr. Clean Cut here.
02:36Yeah, you don't recognize him in our film.
02:38Not at first.
02:39It took me a second.
02:40He's got a ponytail.
02:41The ponytail's gonna say the ponytail's such a vibe.
02:42All the tattoos.
02:43Oh my God, he looks so beautiful.
02:45He looks like a bar owner on the Lower East Side in the late 90s.
02:48I mean, it's kind of perfect casting, right?
02:50Oh, I miss this feeling.
02:52Oh, man, looking through.
02:53I used to spend hours in video stores like this where I grew up and just constantly perusing shelves.
02:59I got turned on to so many great movies because the boxes looked so weird and fucked up.
03:04And you'd just be like, Eraserhead, this makes no sense to me.
03:07And then you would see it and it would blow your mind.
03:09Also, there was something about, for me, I would rent a movie and you only had the three to five days.
03:14Yeah.
03:15So I'd watch them over and over again.
03:17I'd do the same.
03:18You know?
03:19Because you had to return it.
03:20And it was just like...
03:21And you have to make a decision.
03:22Yeah.
03:23You go to the store and you have to really make that decision.
03:26You have to agree.
03:27I used to get in fights with the family or your friends.
03:29Yeah.
03:30Yeah.
03:31Now do you have the thing where you're looking at streaming and you can look for two hours and not even watch something?
03:36I've never seen this.
03:37What is that?
03:38Here's what you don't get.
03:39Oh, awesome.
03:40Jim Katza?
03:41Oh my God.
03:42Here's how things worked in the 80s.
03:44I know you guys are mostly kids in the 90s, right?
03:46But back in the 80s, it was not uncommon for people to be like, we need to make a martial arts action movie.
03:52But we have a gymnast who's starring in it.
03:54How are we going to make this work?
03:56And the answer was Gymkata.
03:59Combine the power of gymnastics with the explosive force of karate.
04:04Gymkata.
04:06Basically, they made up a martial art that was one part gymnastics and two parts...
04:11No way.
04:12...Ninja ass kicking.
04:13I mean, that sounds correct.
04:14Is he wearing tights the whole film?
04:15Listen, I don't think you need career advice.
04:17You seem like you've been doing pretty good the last couple of years, but let me just throw...
04:20I think we should do a Gymkata.
04:21Gymkata remake.
04:22Two words for you, man.
04:23I gotta get into the gymnastics world.
04:25So, have either of you guys heard of this, Night of the Juggler?
04:31No.
04:32Alright, so let me give you a little bit of backstory.
04:34It's this kind of famous, quote unquote, lost movie that came out in the late 70s, early 80s.
04:40It's kind of this wonderful New York thriller.
04:43Imagine Josh Brolin, but hotter.
04:45That's James Brolin, his dad.
04:46Oh, that's James Brolin.
04:47Oh, wow.
04:48Yeah, and the peak of his Marlboro Man sexiness.
04:50I see it.
04:51I've heard a lot about him through Josh.
04:53Yeah, yeah.
04:54He looks like Burr Reynolds, doesn't he?
04:55I was just thinking that.
04:57He's got a kind of Reynolds-esque macho thing going on.
05:00This is good advertising because he spends the entire movie running around New York looking for his kidnapped daughter.
05:07In a lumberjack shirt that's basically unbuttoned to his solar plexus.
05:10It's like taken, but hot.
05:11And it, much like caught stealing, it takes place in this kind of scuzzy New York, but it's a different era of scuzziness.
05:17Like, I love how Darren has kind of recreated the late 90s scuzziness of the LES, so that when you're walking through there.
05:24You feel it.
05:25Like, I've been in a bar like that in the late 90s.
05:27Darren taught me all about that because I didn't get to see Benny's Burritos or Kim's video, but it's in the movie.
05:32What other stuff, besides After Hours, what other stuff was he having you guys watch to get us sent to the period?
05:36What else did we watch?
05:37I mean...
05:38We went to go see, um...
05:39Oh, we went to see Blowout.
05:40We went to go see Blowout, yeah.
05:41Yeah.
05:42Which I hadn't seen.
05:43Oh, where's it playing?
05:44It was playing IFT.
05:45Yeah.
05:46That's a great movie.
05:47I've seen that movie so many times, but I've never seen it on the big screen.
05:48It's so good.
05:49Sorry, am I allowed to just be looking like this?
05:51Yeah, of course.
05:52What are you seeing?
05:53Truly obscure.
05:54I mean, this is...
05:55I would go to the VHS spot and rent Jackie Chan movies.
05:59I was always a big fan of the police story ones.
06:01Police story.
06:02Oh my god, Tusk?
06:03Tusk?
06:04Wow.
06:05Tusk is nuts.
06:06Kevin.
06:09I truly, like, don't know a lot of these films.
06:12There's so many movies.
06:13There's not enough hours in your life to watch all the movies that have been made.
06:16It's refreshing, though.
06:18How many movies do you watch a week, would you say?
06:21Too many?
06:22But is that, like, multiple a day, or...?
06:24I think it depends, yeah.
06:25I mean, there have been times...
06:26Oh my god, the boy in the plastic bubble.
06:28Remember that?
06:29Speaking of Travolta...
06:30Oh my god.
06:31Yes.
06:32Yeah.
06:33So do you remember watching this as a kid?
06:34Yes.
06:35I remember watching that as a kid.
06:36And being like, this is insane.
06:37Yeah.
06:38Yeah.
06:39This is...
06:40This is insane.
06:41You should remake this.
06:42There you go.
06:43You should remake this, though.
06:44I'll be the boy in the plastic bubble.
06:45After the Jim Cotta remake, though.
06:46Wait, Buzz Aldrin is in this?
06:47Yeah.
06:48I forgot about that.
06:49So you need to see this right away.
06:51Danger Diabolique.
06:52Mmm.
06:53So, people, if you've ever seen...
06:55I think it's the Beastie Boys video for Body Movin'?
06:58Yeah!
06:59Body Movin', Body Movin'
07:00Body Movin'
07:01He wasn't found in the town so soon.
07:03They keep interspersing with this Italian spy movie of the 1960s
07:07that starred this guy John Philip Law.
07:09It reminds me a lot of you, actually.
07:11He was like the Austin Butler of the 60s.
07:13Basically, he's this super spy that's...
07:15It's based off an Italian comic where he basically runs around
07:18and, like, stops the world from being taken over by megalomaniacs.
07:21Yeah.
07:22It's amazing.
07:23It is so Italian exploitation of go-go and a great period film.
07:27Also, the cover is incredible.
07:28Great description.
07:29So, we're just basically setting you up for remakes here.
07:31Exactly.
07:32We have the whole next five years.
07:34Look at his haircut, too.
07:35The great haircut.
07:36Oh, look at that picture of them with the money naked in bed.
07:39Yeah.
07:40That's good.
07:41Yeah.
07:42Buffalo 66.
07:44So, was that a big movie for you?
07:45That was a big movie for me.
07:46Yeah, me too.
07:47This was a strong, strong vibe.
07:49Oh, man.
07:50Vincent Gallo, a very young Christina Ricci.
07:52Oh, such a babe.
07:53Didn't they shoot this on a slide film or something?
07:58Yeah, that sounds right.
08:00It was one of the only films ever shot, I think, on...
08:03Yeah.
08:04Rather than a negative, it was...
08:05How'd you know that?
08:06It was so beautiful when you see the imagery.
08:09Yeah, yeah.
08:10I remember seeing a film print of that, too, when it came out.
08:11Yeah.
08:12Oh, you saw that?
08:13Yeah.
08:14Really?
08:15Where?
08:16This is one of the advantages of being 78 years old, Austin.
08:17You look so good for your age.
08:18For that age, yeah.
08:19I've often wanted to ask your director about this.
08:21Mm-hmm.
08:22Let's call him.
08:23Yeah, if you guys want to text him this question.
08:24Let's FaceTime him.
08:25Oh, there you go.
08:26Hi.
08:27If there's anything that I know that the kids love, it's math.
08:30Yeah.
08:31This movie traumatized me as a kid.
08:32So, did you see this or Requiem for a Dream first?
08:35And I want to talk to you about that early screening of Requiem for a Dream.
08:38I realized I had seen this with my father before Requiem, but I didn't realize it was
08:43Darren Aronofsky.
08:44But, I mean, I'm watching this really young, so...
08:46Yeah.
08:47...there were certain things in this film that traumatized me as a child.
08:51Thanks, Aaron.
08:52And then, when I'm about 12, 13, then I had somebody tell me, you've got to watch Requiem
08:57for a Dream.
08:58Which traumatized me as a child.
08:59Yeah.
09:00So, how old were you when you saw it?
09:02I feel like I was like 13.
09:04And you were like 12, right?
09:0512 or 13, yeah.
09:06Something like that.
09:07And this explains so much, man.
09:10This is why I am the way that I am.
09:11We're okay, right?
09:12We're fine?
09:13We're okay.
09:14We're fine, right?
09:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:16We're okay, right?
09:17What did Darren say when you told him that you saw the movie this young?
09:20What did he say to that?
09:21He's like, good for you.
09:22Yeah, good for you.
09:23I'm glad that you've had more time with me.
09:26Oh, my God.
09:27I think, yeah, there's never too young for Darren.
09:28I don't think he was at all worried about...
09:29No, no, no.
09:30He wasn't worried about my psychology.
09:32All right, you guys want to go upstairs and do some trivia questions?
09:36Okay, yeah.
09:37On that note, yeah.
09:38Why not?
09:39Okay.
09:40Zoe doesn't want to leave.
09:41I don't, but I'll come back later.
09:42I really do want to come back and run.
09:43I need to get a VHS machine now.
09:44You can get them on eBay.
09:45Yeah, we got them.
09:46You think we can find one?
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