00:00How long did you play Lucifer?
00:01Oh God, forever.
00:03From 2015 to 2021?
00:06The greatest show.
00:07Wow.
00:08The greatest.
00:09Wow, wow, wow.
00:10Loved it so much.
00:11Thank you very much.
00:12Just finished another re-watch of it.
00:14I feel like it's just gotten more and more popular.
00:16It's so crazy.
00:17Good, it's good.
00:18Yes, onwards.
00:19But last time I saw you as well, Piers,
00:21it was days from me turning 40
00:23and you put me at ease and you told me to breathe
00:26and it was wonderful and it was like having my dad.
00:28And now you get to have Piers playing.
00:31How was that?
00:32Like how is it having Piers as a dad?
00:34It's amazing.
00:35Well, you know, first of all, best looking dad in the world.
00:38Right.
00:39So that's great.
00:39We'll enter that competition.
00:40Great looking son, there you go.
00:41But also he's just such a, you're a really nice person.
00:44Oh, cheers.
00:45I know, I don't believe the rumors.
00:46He's really nice.
00:47And no, he's so got a big heart
00:50and just great fun to hang out with.
00:53And like, you know, once I got over the sort of
00:55I'm working with his icon.
00:56Right.
00:57Um, it's great.
00:58And, you know, we have a laugh together.
01:00We had a great laugh together.
01:01You laughed more than me.
01:02You talked a lot.
01:03That's for sure.
01:04You're a chubby Cathy.
01:05I am a chubby.
01:06It was great.
01:07It was great.
01:08We just, Tom showed up and we just hit the ground running
01:11playing father and son.
01:12Yeah.
01:12The characters are so beautifully embroidered by Richard Osmond.
01:15And then, of course, you have Chris Columbus directing.
01:18And then, of course, for me, too, you know,
01:21I felt just like you did.
01:23You just spoke over there.
01:25I'm with Dame Helen.
01:26I'm with Sir Ben Kingsley and Celia.
01:28Celia and I had worked together before.
01:30But it was just the cast was like such a theatrical company.
01:35Yeah.
01:36It was really beautiful.
01:37It's like we were putting on a play.
01:38Yeah.
01:39We were filming it.
01:40What are your personal sleuthing skills like?
01:43I mean, you have a lot of experience having done it.
01:46Like so much.
01:47But like yourselves, what are you?
01:49Are you good like detectives?
01:50Like if you watch something, do you know what's,
01:52like who's done it at the very start?
01:54No.
01:55No, I'm useless at it.
01:56And I just go with the flow.
01:57And I don't really want to know, actually.
01:59You know, I sit with my wife and she gets it straight away.
02:02And I say, shut up, please don't say.
02:03No, no, no, no.
02:04Oh, dear.
02:05Well, my wife is a writer.
02:06So she knows how these things work.
02:08So she already knows just from the formula of the writing
02:12who done it.
02:14So she sort of spoils it a little bit for me.
02:16Yes.
02:16But, you know.
02:17I'm curious.
02:17Obviously, this is the Thursday murder club.
02:19When you guys were in school, were you ever in any other clubs?
02:23Like I was in something called an animal club where we,
02:27I don't know.
02:28What happens in animal club?
02:29I don't know.
02:30I know we made badgers which said animal club on them
02:32and we wore them and we liked animals.
02:34Okay.
02:35But can you remember doing anything like that?
02:37Because clubs were a big thing when we were at school.
02:38I was only into like sports, basically.
02:40So that was all my stuff at school.
02:43But there was, I had friends who were like in the chess club
02:45and things like that.
02:46But that was not my bag.
02:47That was not you?
02:48No, I wasn't in a club.
02:49No.
02:50At all.
02:51I was in clubs outside, actually.
02:54You know.
02:55But no, I wasn't in a club.
02:56Well, now you get to be part of one of the best clubs,
02:58the Thursday murder club.
02:59What was it like when the cameras weren't rolling
03:02and like all of you together?
03:03Because, especially for you, Tom.
03:06Like sitting with those four legends,
03:08I would be pinching myself all the time.
03:10But even for you as well, Piers.
03:11Like, what's it like when the cameras aren't rolling
03:14and you guys are together?
03:15We would just sit around, have a cup of tea.
03:16People would be on their phone
03:18or they'd be just relaxing
03:19and just having a little nap in the sunshine.
03:22He's always got his sketch pad with him.
03:24And I would draw.
03:25He's a great artist, this guy.
03:27Well, I would have my pad with me and I would draw.
03:29What do you draw?
03:30Just anything?
03:31I don't draw anything really, whatever's before me.
03:34And just, I work on projects that I have
03:37and collaborations that I have with other artists.
03:40One of which I own, by the way.
03:43The collaboration you did was Shepard Fairey.
03:45It was a Shepard Fairey.
03:47It was a painting, a large painting I did.
03:49I got it about three months before I got cast
03:52as Piers' son and it was a long story
03:55but my father-in-law bought it in a charity auction
03:57and then there was a little note attached from Piers to me
03:59and then I got cast as his son three months later.
04:02Oh my God, it was meant to be.
04:03It was meant to be.
04:04It was for Jane Goodall.
04:05It was meant to be.
04:06And listen, how much of yourselves did you bring
04:09to this character?
04:10Because obviously you had great material
04:11but like yourselves because,
04:13I mean, I keep bringing up these folks
04:15because I love that show so much
04:16but like hearing you talk the way you do
04:20like is so weird as well to me.
04:23But like how much did you bring yourselves to it?
04:26I think inevitably you bring a bit of yourself
04:28to every character that you do.
04:29I think, you know, there are certain things
04:31that you identify with and certain things
04:32that are completely alien
04:33but ultimately you bring a certain amount
04:35of your energy into it.
04:36Um, I don't know.
04:38I don't know what specifically it was with Jason.
04:41I don't know.
04:42I mean, you're absolutely right, Tom.
04:43I mean, you bring yourself.
04:44You go to your own soul, your own heart,
04:46your own emotions, your own memory,
04:48your sense memory of your life
04:50and the what-if character
04:52with the what-if situation.
04:54Uh, for me with Ron Ritchie,
04:56I mean, Chris Columbus,
04:58I worked with him on Mrs. Doubtfire
05:00and Percy Jackson.
05:01So when he offered me this job,
05:03I thought, wow, this is interesting.
05:05This is Ron Ritchie, really?
05:06Yeah.
05:07Okay, union leader.
05:08He said, grow a beard.
05:09I grew a beard.
05:10I understood that.
05:11I thought, okay,
05:12that's a good transformation at least,
05:15you know,
05:16because you don't want to see this mug
05:17and, you know,
05:18it's just not going to work.
05:19But, uh, you know,
05:21I know what it's like to be a working man.
05:22I've been a working actor all my life.
05:24I know what it's like to go out and dig ditches.
05:26I know what it's like to, you know,
05:28and, you know, serve tables and clean houses.
05:32You've done it all.
05:33You've done it all.
05:34I did a lot, you know,
05:35because, uh,
05:37and, you know, I started in the theatre.
05:39I started in experimental theatre,
05:40street theatre, kids theatre,
05:42agitprop theatre.
05:44So you'd see people on the,
05:46going to support, you know,
05:48the, the, the, the, the working man.
05:51Yeah.
05:52And performing.
05:53So you, the rest of you use your imagination.
05:55It's in the heart.
05:56I know what it's like to be a father.
05:57I know what it's like to have a son.
05:59I know what it's like to be embarrassed by dad.
06:01But you bring great dad vibes,
06:04even like to me in those few minutes of a junket.
06:07You brought them and I felt it.
06:08So.
06:09And Tom forever.
06:10Forever my name's forever.
06:11Thank you very much.
06:12Great job in here as well.
06:14So lovely to see you both.
06:15So lovely to see you both.
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