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Documentary, True Monsters: The Evil Walking Among Us S1 E2
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00:01Killer creatures.
00:02People are getting slain.
00:03Body parts are getting chopped off.
00:05And ravenous cannibals.
00:08These stories are confirmed.
00:09They're not made up.
00:10Are predators with a penchant for flesh
00:13hunting people in the Pennsylvania woods?
00:15Hopefully we don't die.
00:17What really stalked Little Red Riding Hood?
00:21Danger lurks in the form of bad men.
00:23And which is more terrifying?
00:25Banshees out for blood?
00:27The Tar River Banshee, it places a curse upon you.
00:30Or zombies?
00:32Some say walk among us.
00:34The Buddha Zombie is frightening because
00:36we know that the chemistry for it actually works.
00:38There's no adventure if you don't go into the forest.
00:41And is it terrifying? Yes.
00:43And can you be consumed? Yes.
00:45It's end of the belly of the beast.
00:47Define the surprising truth
00:49behind history's most legendary cannibals and killers.
00:53Right now.
00:57Man eating man is the ultimate matter
01:00In the night of the building so that you are
01:16animals, and creatures and monsters.
01:20Man-eating man is the ultimate taboo, and our first taste comes from 16th century Scotland
01:32in a tale that churns the stomach.
01:36It's the story of an inbred clan of cannibals tormenting the countryside.
01:42Could they have actually existed?
01:45Turns out, the clues are hidden in the history of the times.
01:53There weren't so much wild beasts in the road, but there were highwaymen, and there were raiders.
02:00You weren't safe.
02:04Sonny Bean and his family survived by ambushing people, stealing from them, and worse than that, killing them and eating them.
02:15They supposedly lived in a cave that was covered up by the ocean at high tide, so people couldn't find them.
02:35The Sonny Bean clan were just probably the worst thing that could happen to you.
02:47Thieves and robbers were common threats.
02:50Around the time of Sonny Bean, the exploits of another legendary highway robber began to emerge.
02:59His name was Robin Hood.
03:02But while Robin Hood's mission was to steal from the rich and give to the poor,
03:08Sonny Bean's goal was simply to devour you.
03:12For more than two decades, they remained a secretive operation.
03:17That was until the final ambush, where they made a tactical error.
03:22They had a botched robbery murder.
03:25The guy got away.
03:26He alerted the authorities.
03:27They got a posse together of about 400 people, and they started searching the areas.
03:31And eventually, somebody said, hey, that weird cave over there, you know, we think we haven't searched that yet.
03:36Let's go in there and look at it.
03:37When they got in there, they found remains of bones that had been gnawed on.
03:43There were no refrigerators, but they would pickle the meat.
03:46By that time, the original Sonny Bean clan, which was two people, a husband and wife, had expanded to a bunch of children.
03:53They wound up with 45 people.
03:55They were essentially this big, incestuous, cannibalistic clan.
03:59So how do you get an entire clan to participate in something like cannibalism and murder?
04:05It's really actually not that complicated.
04:09Really, you need one person who may be a sort of a sociopath, and then he gets somebody else to follow him.
04:16All of them were eventually caught, and I believe most of them were executed.
04:20Sonny Bean was taken and executed in a very gruesome way.
04:26He had his genitals cut off, and he had to have his hands and legs cut off, and he basically slowly bled to death.
04:32At least, that's what the legend says.
04:37But is Sonny Bean fact or fiction?
04:40Maybe a little bit of both.
04:43While there's no evidence a man named Sonny Bean actually existed, the legend was based on real events.
04:51It really was used as a tactic by the British to make the Scots look less than human.
04:57In 1745, a Scottish group called the Jacobites demanded their exiled leader, known as Bonnie Prince Charlie, regain the British throne.
05:08The stories were published at the time of the Jacobite rebellions, which in history was a period of great unrest,
05:16where the Scots were basically attempting, in a very bloody coup, to separate from England.
05:23The English labeled them cannibals to relegate the Scots to barbarians.
05:28The history of relationships between Scotland and the kingdom has been fractious for centuries.
05:34And there was this reputation of these ferocious, almost inhuman, barbaric Scots coming down and raiding our civilized society.
05:47Well, we have to do something.
05:49The first thing we do is make sure everybody understands that even though they look like us, they're not like us.
05:54Why?
05:55Because they're barbarians.
05:56They eat you.
05:57The English used sawny as a derogatory name for the Scots, and it's stuck.
06:05To this day, if you look up the word sawny in a British dictionary, you'll find that it means fool, simpleton, and Scotsman.
06:15If you can see a group of people that you really want to demonize or make outcasts, turn a whole population against them,
06:23all you have to do is make them monstrous and not human.
06:27The Jacobites never did shake their association with an alleged clan of barbaric cannibals, though they likely never ate a soul.
06:36Yet even though the Jacobites faded into history, the legend of sawny bean lives on to this day.
06:43And maybe even inspires modern-day cannibal tales.
06:47Like the 2006 remake of the 1970s thriller, The Hills Have Eyes, about a family stalked by man-eating mutants in a government testing ground,
06:59it's a story that captures our very real fears of being eaten.
07:04The really strong myths are the ones that exist across time, and they get told and retold.
07:11We're still telling the stories of the sawny bean clan to this day,
07:15because they're about as vile a taboo as they can possibly imagine.
07:20So, if you happen to be a horror filmmaker, it can be a source of great inspiration.
07:25Hooray!
07:45The story of Little Red Riding Hood is a classic French fairy tale first printed
08:01in the 17th century.
08:03Little Red Riding Hood goes into the woods to her grandmother's house to bring her wine
08:11and bread, and she encounters the wolf, and the wolf, you know, persuades her to go into
08:17the forest and collect flowers.
08:19She collects all these flowers, and then she goes to her grandmother's house.
08:22While she was collecting the flowers, the wolf, you know, went to grandma's house and
08:27ate her up, and then the wolf put on her clothes, get into bed, and then when Little Red Riding
08:32Hood arrives, the wolf invites, you know, Little Red into the bed and eats Little Red
08:38Riding Hood.
08:39Little Red Riding Hood comes by and cuts the wolf open and rescues her out of the wolf
08:45belly.
08:46This may be the Red Riding Hood story we're most familiar with, but it turns out there's
08:52far more to the fairy tale first known as Le Petit Chaperone Rouge, things that can be
08:58uncomfortable to talk about.
09:00There's the version you hear today and the original version, and if you get unedited Grimm's
09:06fairy tales, you get it pretty quickly.
09:10It's a very simple tale of Little Red Riding Hood protecting her virginity.
09:14In the 17th century, if a young girl went into the woods by herself, she was taking a chance.
09:21Her mother tells her, don't stray from the path.
09:24You could fall and break the bottle.
09:27Breaking the bottle could be symbolic of virginity.
09:30Grimm's fairy tales, if you read the original versions, they're not for kids.
09:37They're full of sex and violence.
09:40Little Red Riding Hood is an incredibly violent and sex-filled story in its original form.
09:47The story of Red Riding Hood is ultimately a cautionary tale.
09:51A warning to young and naive girls of the dangers of the woods and of wayward men.
09:58Both things were big problems in post-medieval Europe when the fairy tale made its way into
10:05popular culture.
10:06If you ever see the Black Forest, I think you'll understand exactly why they come up with these
10:13incredibly grim tales.
10:15It is completely dark ground, dark woods.
10:19Any horseback rider or outsider who came by who was from an upper-class family would probably
10:28rape her.
10:30In medieval Europe, rape was a systemic problem.
10:35But until Catholic priest Thomas Aquinas used the Roman word raptus, which means carrying off by force,
10:43to describe the violent deflowering of a virgin, rape didn't even have a name.
10:49If a maiden like Red Riding Hood was raped, she would have faced prosecution, virginity tests,
10:56and shame.
11:00Danger lurks, right?
11:01And it lurks in the form of creatures, bad men, men who are sort of part animal.
11:09You know, so in the case of Little Red Riding Hood, you have this wolf, but this wolf who
11:13basically presents as a man.
11:15In the end, the story of Little Red Riding Hood isn't the story of one little girl.
11:21It's the story of thousands of young girls from all around the world, each facing their own dark woods
11:28full of mysterious predators.
11:30So, the moral of the story is, if you're a woman, don't talk to strangers. Don't let them,
11:36you know, take you off your path. And then, God forbid, don't get into bed with them.
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12:07Bluebeard is definitely a story that one didn't tell to children and perhaps should wait to tell
12:33to children even now. It's a tale about a mysterious duke who had a bluebeard and was frightening.
12:43He has been married six times. Everybody knows that this guy has married all these women and no
12:51one knows what happened to these women. But that doesn't stop one last woman from taking a chance
12:57on him. At one point soon after they're married he says I've got to go on a trip and while I'm gone
13:02I'm going to give you the keys to the entire castle. And this one golden key that I'm giving you
13:10it goes to it opens this door here but you're never to use it while I'm gone.
13:27She of course could not stop fixating about that final key.
13:32She finally goes in there and sees hanging from the walls six women with their throats cut or hanging
13:54mutilated. She's horrified and drops the key into the blood on the floor.
14:10All of a sudden he's coming home early. She hears him. She picks up the key, cleans it off as fast as
14:15she can. She goes back upstairs and he catches her coming up in sort of a panic and he's like hey what's
14:21up? And she was all like nothing.
14:26Bluebeard is just furious. He's about to slice off her head.
14:31A lot of people experiencing and reading the old fairy tales are shocked by how gruesome they are. There
14:49is blood all over the place. People are getting slain. Body parts are getting chopped off. These
14:54are brutal, brutal things. Bluebeard was one of the most graphic tales of horror collected in France
15:02by the Grimm Brothers and published in 1697. But where did this horror story come from? Turns out
15:11it may have been based on a real murder. There were many serial killers during the period that these
15:18stories came from and were collected. And they generally were people of the aristocracy, dukes,
15:25kings. One of the possibilities for the basis of Bluebeard is Connemore the Accursed, who was Lord of
15:34Brittany but from the 6th century. He actually was a figure who was reputed to have had three wives
15:41who disappeared. And when he married his fourth wife, she found a forbidden chamber. And inside
15:49that chamber were the remains of the three wives who had preceded her. Over time, people have likened
15:56the Bluebeard tale to more modern murderers. And perhaps no homicidal maniac is as strikingly similar
16:04as H.H. Holmes, a 19th century serial killer in Illinois who used the Chicago World's Fair to attract
16:14women to his Hotel of Horrors. He built what is called the Murder Castle in Chicago at the same time
16:21as the Chicago World's Fair in 1893. This was the place that the majority of his victims met their demise.
16:28The bottom floor was a pharmacy. On the second floor was an actual hotel. And on the third floor
16:36was a labyrinth of torture rooms. Like, there were literally chutes where, you know, they could fall
16:43down a chute into a vat of acid. And that was one of the reasons why they don't even know how many
16:48victims he had because they met their fate in the acid pit or an incinerator. Most historians say that
16:53there were close to 200. In many ways, H.H. Holmes is America's version of Bluebeard.
16:59These guys are on a whole other plane of sickness and darkness. They don't show any remorse. They
17:04don't care. That's the scary part about them. These crimes have been committed in much greater
17:09numbers in the past than today. Women often didn't have a choice as to who they would marry. So they
17:15were being introduced to the man for the first time. You know, he's called Bluebeard because his beard is
17:20blue. And everyone thought he was kind of strange looking to begin with. And I think that back then,
17:27strangeness is bad, in this case, evil. Perhaps the moral of the story could be as simple and perhaps
17:35disturbing as things that are strange can't be trusted.
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18:17Many people think zombies originated with George Romero's 1968 cult classic, Night of
18:30the Living Dead.
18:33But the first reference to zombies actually comes from Brazil, where in 1810, a historian
18:44coined the term.
18:46It made its way into Haiti, where zombies are made real.
19:06Our modern pop culture, we talk about zombies, but the real zombies are the ones from the
19:10Haitian beliefs, the voodoo or voodoo beliefs of a person who was either raised from the
19:15dead or enslaved using a combination of chemistry and sorcery.
19:22As one legend goes, a man named Clairvius Narcisse died and was buried on May 2, 1962, or so his
19:31family thought.
19:32He had been fed a poison that had made him fall into a death-like coma.
19:39He'd been buried, he'd been dug up, and then he'd been fed a series of narcotics that confused
19:47his mind so much that he was able to do what he was told.
19:51But really lacked the initiative or will or orientation to do anything for himself.
19:58He'd worked for more than a decade in a sugar plantation as essentially slave labor.
20:06It wasn't until 18 years later that Narcisse stumbled into the L'Estaire marketplace in
20:13Haiti with a heavy gait and vacant stare.
20:17It was there that his sister Angela Narcisse found him, and his very real story came out.
20:25There are all sorts of stories in Haiti about people disappearing, dying, showing up years
20:31later on their family's doorstep.
20:32These stories come up every 10, 15 years, and they're confirmed.
20:36They're not made up.
20:39In the case of Narcisse, a boker, or Haitian witch doctor, had given him a coma-inducing
20:46dose of tetradetoxin and buffotoxin, which are poisons from pufferfish and frogs that affect
20:53muscles and neurotransmitters in the brain.
20:59If I wanted to turn you into a voodoo zombie, what I would do is I would drug you, you would
21:04pass out, you would appear dead to the, you know, to the naked eye, to the untrained professional.
21:19They believed that the soul and the body separate when you die, but that the body can be reanimated.
21:27The voodoo zombie is frightening because we know that the chemistry for it actually works.
21:32The voodoo zombies, they terrify us because they're, they're real things.
21:36It's part of our real world, so it's absolutely scary.
21:41Haitian voodoo zombies are real.
21:46American zombies, not so much.
21:49But there's something very real that even these zombies represent.
21:55The idea of an apocalyptic event we can't control.
21:58You look at The Walking Dead and it's not about zombies as much as it is about people and survivors
22:05and what happens in situations of extreme conflict. How are those normal social roles
22:11going to break down and who is going to emerge as a leader?
22:16Now we think about the zombie that's created by infection. If we think about
22:21the new diseases that we've encountered in the past 30 years, AIDS and Ebola and, you know,
22:28flesh-eating bacteria and the fact that now you can go from one part of the world to another very,
22:34very quickly, bringing whatever you have with you, the idea of infection becomes very, very prominent.
22:42Even though it's considered tongue-in-cheek, the CDC started running a zombie blog to capitalize on
22:49the craze while getting out bona fide messages about emergency preparedness.
22:54The CDC for years had been sending out these emails about what to do in some sort of a health disaster.
23:02And nobody read those emails. Nobody. Then they put zombies in there.
23:06They built their entire email around what to do in a zombie apocalypse.
23:1099% of the information was the same as all of their other mailers.
23:14But they put the word zombie in there and they had so many hits that their server crashed again and again and again.
23:19I live in Los Angeles and any expert will tell you there is going to be a giant earthquake.
23:23Well, that never inspired me to get an earthquake preparedness kit.
23:26But I do have a zombie preparedness kit and it works great for earthquakes.
23:30I can't imagine a world without zombies. It captures so much of our contemporary fears.
23:35You know, they're the worst possible scenario of what is going to happen tomorrow.
23:49I have been happy with the drink närmajuba.
23:50But, I don't expect the former
24:15In 1781, at the height of the Revolutionary War, something had it in for a group of soldiers
24:36at the Tar River in North Carolina.
24:39At least that's what the legends say.
24:43It's a story that begins with an American patriot named Dave Warner.
24:59He's a mill owner in North Carolina.
25:02He is providing grain to the American troops.
25:06He's definitely a sort of bold and strong character.
25:12Symbolic of the bold and courageous spirit of the American rebel.
25:17He's told one day that the British are coming and he needs to get out because he's a patriot.
25:32And he says, no, I'm not leaving, and I would rather bang some British heads together than go.
25:38They ransack his mill.
25:40They take him down to the river, and they tell him they're going to drown him.
25:45And he says, you kill me, the Tar River Banshee is going to kill you.
25:53Cut.
25:54And as he drowns, you hear this mournful Banshee wail.
26:09The curse that the Banshee places on the soldiers is that they, too, die.
26:13And so, of course, one by one, they get knocked off.
26:16The biggest thing about Banshees is that they are basically a harbinger of death.
26:31White hair, white clothing, white skin, very ghostly.
26:35A Banshee would sound like a howling, screaming human animal.
26:43A sound that you wouldn't think a human could make.
26:46If you heard this, it meant that someone was going to die.
26:49I was curious to see if this was a story that was based on anything real.
26:53Certainly the river Tar is real.
26:55Certainly the fact that the British army came through there.
26:58There were some major battles that were fought along that river.
27:01And the river and the tar that was being created by the pitch pine foresting that was happening
27:06was a big deal in the Revolutionary War as well.
27:10I've not been able to find a David Warner who was a miller.
27:14That doesn't mean he didn't exist.
27:16He doesn't read, like in most fairy tales or myths, as the sort of everyman miller.
27:20He was a guy, and there's a very specific description.
27:23He's a big man with a big black beard.
27:26And so there could very well have been someone named David Warner.
27:29And there could very well have been a moment where soldiers came across these food stores
27:35and that there was a murder.
27:37It's more grounded and more real than a lot of stories like this.
27:41There are a number of stories that come out of the Revolution that are sort of patriotic stories.
27:47Look how wonderful the Americans are.
27:50Look how horrible the British are.
27:52The Tar River Banshee is part of this patriotic folklore.
27:55Banshees aren't typically part of American folklore, but are a big part of Scottish and Celtic legends.
28:04The word comes from banshee, which translates to banshee.
28:09In Celtic culture, when someone died, women would keen, they would cry, they would wail.
28:13It was a part of the mourning process.
28:15There is debate among historians as to whether the banshee led to the practice of keening
28:21or whether keening created the banshee legend.
28:24Nobody seems to know which came first.
28:27They would sing these songs, and the more heart-rending they were,
28:31the more of the people coming would feel compelled to eat.
28:34If you were an important family, you had your own banshee.
28:36It was sort of a mark of some weird sort of approval.
28:38Somewhere along the line, banshees evolved from just being associated with death
28:44to predicting it or leveling it as a punishment, as in the case of the Tar River Banshee.
28:51This legend of the banshee moved into this story and became this device by which these bad guys died.
28:59They were the architects of their own death, which is very different than the older traditions of the banshee,
29:04who were just a warning.
29:05But what's a Celtic banshee doing in a North Carolina legend at all?
29:10The banshee probably traveled along with the large number of Scottish immigrants
29:15that settled in the state in colonial times and beyond.
29:201.5 million Scots have immigrated to America,
29:24and in 2000, North Carolina had more people of Scottish descent living there than in Scotland.
29:31I think the most interesting thing that I pull from the Tar River story and what it says about us
29:37is that we pull from old things that have meaning to us, that have this sort of deep ancestral memory,
29:44and we recast them so they fit where we are.
29:47The Tar River Banshee, I think, scares people because
29:50the banshee doesn't actually physically do anything to you.
29:55It places a curse upon you.
29:57It screams at you, and once that happens, you're kind of stuck,
30:01and there's nothing you can do about it.
30:02The Tar River Banshee
30:32Kuchisake owner is a vengeful ghost that haunts Japan and goes after children in particular.
30:57She will ask them a question, and if you get the answer right, then you're safe.
31:04The trouble is, there is no right answer.
31:07In the late 1970s and early 1980s, stories start appearing of children who are on their way home from school,
31:16and they're stopped by a woman who's wearing a surgical mask.
31:23And in America, that would tell us something is wrong.
31:27But in Japan, that's not uncommon at all.
31:30If you catch a cold as a courtesy to everybody else, you wear a mask until your cold is gone.
31:36And so that in itself is no cause for alarm.
31:40But in the case of Kuchisake owner, it should be.
31:48Her eyes, her nose, her hair, her stature, all look attractive.
31:52And she will ask you the question, am I pretty?
31:55I am pretty.
31:56I am pretty.
31:57I am pretty.
32:01I am pretty.
32:02I am pretty.
32:02I am pretty.
32:04I am pretty.
32:06I am pretty.
32:07I am pretty.
32:08I am pretty.
32:10If you say no, she's carrying a pair of scissors, and with these scissors, she will kill you.
32:16If you say yes, she will remove the surgical mask to reveal that somewhere along the line, somebody has slit her mouth clear up to the ears.
32:31If you try to escape, you're still out of luck, because no matter which way you turn, she will appear in front of you again and repeat the challenge.
32:39Once she's revealed this disfigurement, she will ask you a second time, do you think I'm pretty?
32:45And if, in fear, you say yes, you still can't escape.
32:52She's carrying scissors, and she will snip both of your cheeks open so that you will like her.
32:58Even though people have reported modern-day sightings of Kuchisake owner in Japan and South Korea, the origins of the legend date back to sometime between the 9th and the 12th century.
33:10As the legend goes, Kuchisake's samurai husband is the one who sliced in her trademark smile after he discovered her cheating on him.
33:20Like Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight, her lips have actually been cut back into this hideous grin.
33:26A person who's permanently smiling, whether they want to or not, is bloodthirsty and dangerous.
33:33Writers of fiction seem to really attach to this type of disfigurement.
33:38Victor Hugo wrote a novel called The Man Who Laughs, in which the main character as a child had his face cut into a permanent smile.
33:47This was made into a movie in the 1920s that apparently inspired the writers in the Batman series to come up with the Joker.
33:56As for whether or not Kuchisake is a real threat in modern-day Japan, it depends on whom you ask.
34:03In 1999, a poll in Japan revealed 99% of the nation's kids were familiar with the legend, and many of them were afraid.
34:16These stories start popping up all over Japan, and people are taking it kind of seriously.
34:22They're actually police patrols out looking for the split-mouthed woman.
34:27Whether they are people who are playing some kind of macabre prank or not, it's hard to say, but there are sightings of her.
34:35Researchers discovered a coroner's report in 2007 of an accident that had happened in the 1970s.
34:42The victim, her mouth had been severed in much the same way as Kuchisake owner.
34:47Just prior to the accident, she was reportedly chasing children.
34:51Whether she is the spirit Kuchisake owner or whether she's some macabre copycat, no one really knows.
35:21I am by myself. This is the road that's taken me to Ghost Mountain.
35:30Haycock Mountain, Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
35:34To residents of Bucks County, Haycock Mountain is a very pleasant-sounding place.
35:40But it goes by the name Ghost Mountain because creepy things go on there.
35:45So, apparently the story with Ghost Mountain is there's this house on this one road, Spring House Lane or something.
35:52And it's a glass house, and apparently cannibals used to live in there.
35:57So we will see.
35:59If the idea is that there's this race of people up there in the woods, these albino cannibals, I mean, just the image is spooky, and they might be up there, they might not.
36:09This might be true or might not be true, let's go explore and see.
36:14The legend of the Ghost Mountain cannibals goes back at least to the 1960s.
36:19As the story goes, a band of inbred albino cannibals lie in wait for people who come looking for them or looking for trouble.
36:29Hopefully, we don't die.
36:33It's like a teen rite of passage.
36:36You go up the mountain, you go into the woods, and all around are potential dangers.
36:42These monstrous creatures are hiding in the woods.
36:45They might come out from the trees with a shotgun.
36:50If you're lucky, all they'll do is shoot rock salt at your car.
36:53If you're not lucky, they'll go into your car, they'll drag you out, they'll butcher you, they'll eat you, and then they'll dispose of your remains so that they'll never be found.
37:02Whether or not people think this is just another urban legend, things that are part of the story are very real, like a chain driveway and an old covered bridge.
37:27In September of 2012, in nearby Hawley, a man named Richard Semino reportedly broke into a house and chased a woman outside while gnawing on her head.
37:42The reality of being eaten by one of our own, I think that really strikes a nerve with humans.
37:48Essentially, it means that the person standing next to you could be a predator in waiting in disguise.
37:55Eating other people is one of those taboos. We find it so gross, so grotesque, that if you want to scare somebody, the word cannibal is a really great way of doing it.
38:08Do you guys see anything?
38:10No.
38:11Anything?
38:12See how dark it is when my lights are off?
38:13Oh, Lord.
38:14Okay.
38:15Do it.
38:16Whoa.
38:17It's like we turned the lights back on or something right in front of us.
38:21These episodes that deal with man-eating and cannibalism, what makes them so terrifying to us is the fact that on some level, we know this has happened.
38:38There's evidence of humans eating humans.
38:42A person having a nice dinner is very normal and natural. If that nice dinner is another person, you're changing the story into something supremely horrifying.
38:52To be killed is bad, but death is, you know, we know that's in the cards, but to be killed and eaten, that's to be, like, dominated.
39:04That's to be, like, subsumed, you know, like literally consumed, taken over by something else.
39:12Stories of savage behavior in the mountains stem from perceived reality, that people living in the backwoods are less civilized.
39:22It's a city-country divide that has existed since colonial times and is now inspired pop culture with movies like Deliverance and stories like that of the ghost mountain cannibals.
39:36There's no adventure if you don't go into the forest. And is it terrifying? Yes. And can you be consumed? Yes.
39:42I think the hunt for the cannibals of Ghost Mountain are a part of this wider human urge to find the unknown.
40:00We are somehow drawn. We create these creatures. We create scary movies. We tell each other scary stories.
40:06We go into places where we've never gone before. We risk danger. And it's partly to get that thrill again that makes us know we're alive.
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