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During a House Oversight Committee hearing in July, Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) spoke about subsidies for renewable energy projects.
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00:00Thank you. I now recognize the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Mr. Perry, for five
00:06minutes. Well thank you Mr. Chairman and thanks to the panel for being here. I have
00:10the distinct honor of representing the district that much of lies in the shadow
00:16of the towers, the cooling towers of Three Mile Island. I'm also happy to
00:21report that it is a vibrant, healthy, and productive community in the shadow of
00:28Three Mile Island and most of the residents are absolutely thrilled that
00:33the jobs will be coming back, that the lights will be coming on, and that the
00:36power of Three Mile Island will be produced. And I for one hope that they
00:40will install a second reactor, one of the ones that we're talking about here today,
00:45on that site that is so well situated for such a facility. Now I can't I can't go
00:54on without just noting that my friends on the other side of the aisle seem to be
01:00concerned about the profits that are made by power companies that engage in
01:05constructing and operating nuclear nuclear facilities. Well it seems to me over the
01:11course of at least the last ten years my colleagues on that side of the aisle have
01:17promoted and enacted policies that have increased the bills of my constituents, my bosses, my
01:26neighbors, the people I live around, I don't know, maybe tenfold. It's astounding. They don't seem to care
01:33how much citizens pay for electricity and how much renewable, we'll be kind, we'll call them renewable
01:42energy operators make on government subsidies and mandates because their
01:47products simply can't compete in the market. They seem to have no problem with
01:52that. But I just think it's important that we at least attempt to set the record
01:57straight while we're in one of these hearings and have the counter discussion to
02:01just assuming that profit is bad, that everybody that runs a nuclear facility is
02:07dangerous, careless, and doesn't care about the citizens that they serve. And only
02:14people interested in renewables are willing to give up all their profits, which
02:20they're not, and provide low-cost energy to the masses, which they're not that
02:26either. As a matter of fact it's the highest cost energy and it's also very much
02:31more dangerous than nuclear energy. But that having been said, because I'm going on,
02:35Mr. Epstein, the Advance Act required that the NRC now switch to general
02:43environmental impact statements. One of the things that drives what kind of
02:50energy produced is how investments, when individuals, when concerns invest their
02:59money in something, they want to know that they're going to get a return on it and I
03:02hope they get a profit too because they're investing in something and putting
03:06their money at risk. That's how things work in America. But putting your money at
03:11risk for 15 or 20 years without any, without any surety that there's going to be a
03:18positive outcome is a detractor from that investment. And essentially the
03:24regulations that are in place now are deterrent to the advancement of nuclear
03:32energy and general production itself. So if you could just briefly explain how not
03:40doing the same thing over and over and over again for the same kind of design is
03:44going to be helpful to the industry, save the industry money, and in turn save my bosses,
03:50citizens of America, my constituents money.
03:54For sure. So I think it's really important that you raise the issue of profit, because we absolutely
04:01want nuclear energy companies to be able to make a profit by competing to provide the lowest cost,
04:07most reliable energy. Just like we want phone manufacturers to be able to make a profit,
04:11providing the most cost-effective phones, AI people, providing the most cost-effective AI, etc.
04:18The problems arise, there are two kinds of problems that arise. One is when you
04:22restrict the ability of profit-making entities to compete by not allowing them to do their jobs,
04:27which things like having a new environmental impact statement for every nuclear plant,
04:30even if it's the exact same thing, that just dramatically increases costs. The other thing that
04:35you raised is when you subsidize inferior forms of energy, that also raises costs. We always pay more
04:41total, but in particular with solar and wind, it's particularly egregious, because what it does
04:46is it puts more intermittent, unreliable solar and wind on the grid that doesn't replace the reliable
04:52energy. It adds to the cost of reliable energy. It allows them to win all of the market bids,
04:58so they take the money away from the reliable power plants. Reliable power plants get defunded,
05:02can't make a profit. This is why we have a shortage of gas turbines, one of the reasons why nuclear is in
05:07bad shape, but we cannot build dispatchable capacity profitably, because we've screwed up
05:11the markets with subsidies. So the big, beautiful bill, by far the best thing about it, in my opinion,
05:16was dramatic cuts to these grid-destroying, price-increasing solar and wind subsidies.
05:21Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I give them.
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