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00:00:00Now I want you to tell me why you forged her name to checks.

00:00:03Because she asked me to do this.

00:00:04She said to you, forge my name to a check.

00:00:08Yes.

00:00:09She was saying she was going to put me in jail.

00:00:12For forgery.

00:00:14Duh.

00:00:16For check fraud and filing a false restraining order.

00:00:20Court coming to order. All rise.

00:00:23Have a seat, everyone.

00:00:25Hello, Judge.

00:00:26Hi.

00:00:26Case number 2046, Rapp versus Hall.

00:00:30You're welcome.

00:00:30Ms. Rapp, not a very difficult case.

00:00:33The defendant was a friend of yours, slash, did some work for you.

00:00:37It's not really relevant how you met him.

00:00:40It was sort of through a social situation.

00:00:42And it is your claim that over a period of time, Mr. Rapp forged your signature to several checks.

00:00:50Correct.

00:00:50And then when confronted by the fact that you've discovered these forgeries and asked him for money,

00:00:58he filed a restraining order against you to keep you away from him.

00:01:02And you say that the restraining order was a false one.

00:01:05And you want to be compensated for having to deal with that.

00:01:08I do.

00:01:08I miss work.

00:01:09Just a second.

00:01:10So I'm going to deal with the restraining order first.

00:01:14When did you file a restraining order, Mr. Hall?

00:01:16I believe it was the 17th of July.

00:01:20Of this year?

00:01:21Yes, ma'am.

00:01:22I'm not so long ago.

00:01:23I'd like to see the paperwork that you filed in support, just the paperwork that you gave to the court in support of your restraining order.

00:01:31Why you were asking for a restraining order.

00:01:33Okay.

00:01:34Don't tell me.

00:01:35Is that what you filed with the court?

00:01:37Yes.

00:01:37I'd like to see.

00:01:43So let's just be clear.

00:01:44You filed all these documents with the court when you asked for a restraining order.

00:01:50Yes.

00:01:50Okay.

00:01:56Yeah.

00:01:57I've read some of the text messages, and you're aware of what the text messages say.

00:02:02Yes.

00:02:03I assume you're aware of what they say.

00:02:05Uncross your hands.

00:02:06Oh, yes, ma'am.

00:02:06And that part of your application for damages as a result of filing a false restraining order is denied.

00:02:15You can't even suggest in a text message that you're going to do something violent in order to get him to pay money that you owe.

00:02:24Do you understand that?

00:02:25I do.

00:02:26Okay.

00:02:26So as frustrated...

00:02:27Although the restraining order was dismissed.

00:02:29It doesn't matter.

00:02:30I'm telling you, I've read it, and some of your text messages sound threatening.

00:02:36I was angry.

00:02:37I understand you were angry.

00:02:39The question is not whether he should be granted a restraining order.

00:02:43I don't have to deal with that.

00:02:44I have to deal with the fact that in the text messages, you make certain threats.

00:02:50What if I could?

00:02:53And all that transpired at a time when the defendant reconciled with his wife and family.

00:02:59So, as I said, as a result of reading your text messages, I believe that Mr. Hall had the right to feel threatened and to file for a restraining order.

00:03:10Whether the court that heard the application for a restraining order felt that your behavior warranted a restraining order is another thing.

00:03:17But I can understand why he would file a restraining order to try to keep you away from him and his family.

00:03:24Oh, yes, ma'am.

00:03:25Sorry.

00:03:25Great.

00:03:26Now I want you to tell me why you forged her name to checks.

00:03:29Because she...

00:03:30$8,800 worth of checks.

00:03:33Now you have the right to file a restraining order.

00:03:36Because she asked me to do this.

00:03:37Because she asked you to forge her name to the checks.

00:03:40Yes.

00:03:40Okay.

00:03:41I want you to tell me when the first time she asked you to forge her name to a check.

00:03:46And I assume, just like you've kept all these documents, you have a document to show me, just one.

00:03:55Because if you show me one, I would tend to think that there are more.

00:03:59So just show me one where she said to you, forge my name to a check.

00:04:04Okay.

00:04:04Take the money out and forge my name to a check.

00:04:06Don't say anything.

00:04:07Just show me.

00:04:11Don't shake your head.

00:04:12It's going...

00:04:13I believe this is the first one.

00:04:15Okay.

00:04:16So in that one, she asks you to sign...

00:04:19Well, I...

00:04:20Maybe.

00:04:21Maybe.

00:04:23What are you showing me?

00:04:24The check.

00:04:25I don't want to see the check.

00:04:26You know how you kept these text messages that you texted back and forth and back and forth?

00:04:31I want you to show me, because you're methodical, one time out of the six, seven times that you forged her name to checks,

00:04:40show me one time where she said to you in a text message, in an Instagram, in a pigeon note,

00:04:48where she said to you, take out a check from my checkbook and forge my name to it because I want you to have money.

00:04:55Just show me.

00:04:55I don't have...

00:04:56Of course not.

00:04:57No.

00:04:57Of course not.

00:04:58I don't.

00:04:58Now, the first time you forged her name to a check was what month and year?

00:05:04I believe that it was December 9th.

00:05:06Of 2021.

00:05:08Yes, ma'am.

00:05:08And what were you and Ms. Rapp engaged in at that time that she told you to forge her name to a check?

00:05:16Okay.

00:05:16So I'm an electrician, and I've been an electrician for 13 years.

00:05:19I've been doing side work all around my county.

00:05:22And there's a handful of liquor stores that trust me that I can go and cash personal checks that I get paid for doing my side work.

00:05:28Ms. Rapp knew that, and...

00:05:29Don't tell me what she knew.

00:05:31Okay.

00:05:31All right.

00:05:32So she would be locked out of her account for one reason or the other, and she would ask me, like, on a Friday, she wouldn't be able to get access to her money, and I knew she had money.

00:05:42Well, she couldn't get access to her money, so these weren't your checks you wrote out.

00:05:46You wrote out her checks.

00:05:47Right.

00:05:48She would be frozen out whether you went to take out money or she went to take out money.

00:05:51Right.

00:05:52Also, on a Friday, the liquor store would not deposit these checks until Monday, so I cashed these checks for her to give her cash.

00:05:59Did you ever have sex with the plaintiff?

00:06:01No.

00:06:01Do you think she wanted to have a relationship with you?

00:06:04I think so.

00:06:05Okay.

00:06:05I don't know.

00:06:05What makes you think so?

00:06:07Well, the...

00:06:08The text message.

00:06:09The text message.

00:06:10The text message that she said to you.

00:06:12Yeah.

00:06:12And who is Robert?

00:06:13Is her ex-boyfriend.

00:06:15And do you know Robert?

00:06:16I do.

00:06:17How do you know Robert?

00:06:18I've known Robert for 20 years.

00:06:21Been friends.

00:06:21And when did you start doing work for the plaintiff?

00:06:26Before or after Robert?

00:06:28Uh...

00:06:28Uh is not an answer.

00:06:30It was after.

00:06:31It was after.

00:06:32Yes.

00:06:32Okay.

00:06:32Give me an idea of when.

00:06:35You've cashed the first check in December of 2021.

00:06:38Give me some idea of when you were aware of the fact that the plaintiff and your dear friend of 20 years were no longer an item.

00:06:47Um...

00:06:48Um is not an answer.

00:06:49I don't know what month he was arrested.

00:06:52Uh, so...

00:06:53Arrested for?

00:06:54June, maybe?

00:06:55Arrested for?

00:06:56I don't know his charges.

00:06:57I don't believe that.

00:06:59Okay.

00:06:59I want to see only with those forged checks you would have put the money in her Venmo account.

00:07:06Your Honor, I don't see where I have the ones that I deposited in her account.

00:07:11These seem to all be her depositing into my account.

00:07:14Dumb.

00:07:15You were happy she left.

00:07:16No, ma'am.

00:07:17You wanted her to stay.

00:07:18No, ma'am.

00:07:19Then you were happy she left.

00:07:21No.

00:07:21Then you're a masochist.

00:07:23Somehow you want to list all somebody.

00:07:24Everyone, Snyder, Alice versus McCormick.

00:07:27You're welcome.

00:07:28Mr. Snyder, you own a farm.

00:07:30I do.

00:07:31And this is your girlfriend.

00:07:32Yes.

00:07:32How long has she been your girlfriend?

00:07:34Uh...

00:07:35Five years tomorrow.

00:07:36You say that as a five years tomorrow and?

00:07:40And.

00:07:41I'm just saying it's five years.

00:07:43Five years tomorrow.

00:07:44Yeah.

00:07:45And?

00:07:45And.

00:07:46And the rest of our lives.

00:07:48Okay, good.

00:07:50He know that?

00:07:51No, he's learning.

00:07:52He's learning.

00:07:54Terrific.

00:07:54Okay, this is what I'm gathering from the bare bones of the story.

00:08:00Mr. McCormick was dating an employee of yours.

00:08:04Correct.

00:08:05What was that employee's name?

00:08:07Natasha.

00:08:08When were you dating the lovely Natasha?

00:08:10We weren't really dating.

00:08:11We were an acquaintance.

00:08:12Where was Natasha living?

00:08:14She was living, when we first met, she was living at a friend's house.

00:08:17And she was working for Adam as an employee at a restaurant.

00:08:21And when was that?

00:08:22Month and year?

00:08:22I'd say around September of last year.

00:08:25September 2021.

00:08:27Yes.

00:08:27And?

00:08:28And we decided to move out because Adam had a...

00:08:31Well, so you were living with Natasha at the friend's house.

00:08:34Yes.

00:08:34Where had you been living before?

00:08:36My mom's.

00:08:37So you went from mom's house to Natasha and a friend's house.

00:08:41Yes.

00:08:41Okay.

00:08:42And then where did you go?

00:08:43Then we moved into the trailer right next to Adam that he owned.

00:08:48Who had a discussion with Mr. Snyder about potentially renting the trailer so you would have a place to live?

00:08:54And what kind of rent were you paying?

00:08:56I believe it was $800.

00:08:57And you moved into the trailer when?

00:08:59Around November.

00:09:00Of 2021.

00:09:01Yes.

00:09:01And you lived in the trailer till when?

00:09:03About March.

00:09:04March of 2022.

00:09:05Yes.

00:09:06In March, what happened?

00:09:07Me and Natasha weren't getting along.

00:09:11I just had enough.

00:09:12There was never a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

00:09:14No.

00:09:14She was just a friend.

00:09:15Did you know that?

00:09:16That is not true.

00:09:17So what did you do?

00:09:18I asked Adam if I could move into the ranch house.

00:09:22There was nobody living there at the time.

00:09:23Where were you living?

00:09:24I live at my home with Julie.

00:09:26Okay.

00:09:26And there's a ranch house on the farm?

00:09:28I have a ranch house on a separate piece of property.

00:09:30Close by to the farm?

00:09:31Yes.

00:09:32Three miles.

00:09:33That was vacant?

00:09:34Correct.

00:09:34Okay.

00:09:35So you asked to rent it?

00:09:36Yes.

00:09:36Who was going to rent it?

00:09:38I was.

00:09:38Just you?

00:09:39Yes.

00:09:39Just me.

00:09:40How much was the rent?

00:09:41It was $800.

00:09:42And this was in March?

00:09:43Yes.

00:09:44Prior to March of 2022, what kind of work were you doing?

00:09:48I was working at a factory.

00:09:50How long did you work there?

00:09:51About a month.

00:09:52What month?

00:09:53March.

00:09:54Prior to March, where were you working?

00:09:56On Adam's Farm.

00:09:57From when to when?

00:09:58I'd say about December until March.

00:10:00Well, in December to March, you were living in the trailer?

00:10:03Yes.

00:10:04Okay.

00:10:04And you were living with the lovely Natasha?

00:10:07Correct.

00:10:08And Natasha, I assume, was contributing to the rent?

00:10:10Yes.

00:10:11And how much were you contributing to the rent?

00:10:13Um.

00:10:14Um is not an answer.

00:10:15How much were you contributing to the rent from December to March?

00:10:18A couple hundred.

00:10:19A couple hundred a month.

00:10:21That's not an answer.

00:10:22A couple hundred a month.

00:10:23How much do you pay for rent?

00:10:26$316 a month and 24 cents.

00:10:28How much does it cost to have your garbage picked up?

00:10:30$59 and 12 cents.

00:10:31Do you understand?

00:10:32Certain things changed.

00:10:33What was your electric bill last year?

00:10:34I don't remember.

00:10:35What was your bill last month?

00:10:36I don't remember.

00:10:37$300, ma'am.

00:10:37You see what I mean?

00:10:38A couple is two.

00:10:41Yes.

00:10:41Who did you pay that to?

00:10:43Natasha.

00:10:44Well, I can't tell whether you paid that to Natasha or not.

00:10:47Did you ever discuss rent with Mr. Snyder?

00:10:50No.

00:10:50Even in the trailer?

00:10:51Even in the trailer.

00:10:52So that was all done through Natasha?

00:10:54Correct.

00:10:55Okay.

00:10:56But according to you, you worked someplace in March, but before that you worked on the

00:11:00farm?

00:11:00Yes.

00:11:01From when to when?

00:11:02December to March?

00:11:03Yes.

00:11:03Beginning, middle, or the end of December?

00:11:05The middle.

00:11:06The 16th.

00:11:06Is that about right?

00:11:07If you want to call helping.

00:11:10Helping whatever.

00:11:11Yes.

00:11:11December 16th.

00:11:12Okay.

00:11:13And from December 16th, you did whatever work it was on the farm until March?

00:11:17Yes.

00:11:18March what?

00:11:18Until I moved out.

00:11:19No, March what?

00:11:20Beginning, middle, and...

00:11:2128th.

00:11:22And what was the rent in the ranch house?

00:11:23The ranch house must have been nicer than the trailer you were living in.

00:11:27800.

00:11:27You moved in in April?

00:11:29Yes.

00:11:30How much money did you give him?

00:11:31$900.

00:11:32Some was to go towards security?

00:11:34I was in between jobs, and that's what I had.

00:11:38So we made an agreement that I'd pay $900 the week of, and then so on and so on.

00:11:44I don't have...

00:11:44What's the so on and so on?

00:11:45I don't have the copy of the lease.

00:11:46He never gave me it.

00:11:47Did you sign a lease?

00:11:48Yes.

00:11:48I'd like to see it.

00:11:50I have it right here.

00:11:52In the back of the contract, you'll see where we wrote down he would pay $900...

00:11:56Just a second.

00:11:56...on the 8th.

00:11:57Okay, so the security deposit was supposed to be $1,200.

00:12:02You paid eight.

00:12:03Paid nine.

00:12:04The security deposit was 12, and you paid nine of security deposit?

00:12:09I paid nine total, ma'am.

00:12:10Well, how many months did you live there?

00:12:12Not even one.

00:12:13When did you move out?

00:12:14April 24th, I moved out.

00:12:15Is that correct?

00:12:16That's close, yes.

00:12:18Okay.

00:12:18I don't know exactly when he moved out, because he didn't tell me he was moving out.

00:12:21He just locked the door and wouldn't turn the messages.

00:12:23Okay, but it was in April.

00:12:24Okay.

00:12:25And you had $900?

00:12:27He paid $900.

00:12:28And the rent on the property was supposed to be?

00:12:31$800 per month.

00:12:32$800 monthly?

00:12:34Yes.

00:12:34So, right now, you've been paid for the month that he lived there?

00:12:38Correct.

00:12:38Prior to his moving in there, who was living there?

00:12:41Nobody.

00:12:41So it wasn't rented?

00:12:42Nope.

00:12:42In what year was it last rented?

00:12:452021.

00:12:46When?

00:12:46Oh, no, it was in February.

00:12:48We did an eviction on it.

00:12:49So somebody lived there and didn't pay rent?

00:12:51Correct.

00:12:52Is that the first person who came and didn't pay rent?

00:12:54Definitely not.

00:12:55Definitely not.

00:12:56Yeah, it's lousy to be a landlord.

00:12:57And Trevor was there, and he helped us do the eviction on that, so he knew how it worked.

00:13:00Hmm?

00:13:00Trevor was there.

00:13:01He helped us do the eviction, because we had to have court officers there.

00:13:05To get them out, because they weren't paying rent.

00:13:07I got...

00:13:08So he knows how it works.

00:13:09Well, he may know how it works, but he did, in fact, give you $900.

00:13:12He did.

00:13:13And he lived there for less than a month.

00:13:15That's right.

00:13:16So, that's sort of square.

00:13:17I know you'd like him to be responsible for his lease, but you have your house back.

00:13:21Mm-hmm.

00:13:22Now, tell me about this phone that you say he owes you for.

00:13:25Okay.

00:13:26Where's your phone?

00:13:27I have my phone that I paid for.

00:13:29Their phone that I put a down payment for is at my house.

00:13:33Why?

00:13:34I didn't know I had to bring it.

00:13:35Well, it was just purchased within the last year.

00:13:38Yeah.

00:13:38Why do you have two phones?

00:13:39You have no job.

00:13:40Why do you have two phones?

00:13:41I have a job.

00:13:42Oh, good.

00:13:42I bought this outright because he shut the other phone off.

00:13:46Oh, well, where is the phone?

00:13:47The phone's at my house.

00:13:48What kind of phone is it?

00:13:49It's an iPhone 13.

00:13:50You want it back?

00:13:51I'd like him to just pay for it like the agreement was, but...

00:13:54He gets back his phone.

00:13:55Yes, ma'am.

00:13:56Okay.

00:13:57Even though I paid it down payment.

00:13:57Just a second.

00:13:58Where do you live?

00:13:59Where do you live?

00:13:59I live in Highland.

00:14:00Where is that?

00:14:01It's by Detroit, Michigan.

00:14:03Who else lives at home?

00:14:04My girlfriend.

00:14:06What's her name?

00:14:07Ariel.

00:14:08Where is she?

00:14:08She is currently working right now.

00:14:10Does she know where the phone is?

00:14:12Yes.

00:14:12Okay.

00:14:13They're going to give you an envelope in the clerk's office back here.

00:14:15You're going to tell Ariel to put his phone carefully packed and mail it to him.

00:14:20FedEx, UPS, the fastest way it will get there.

00:14:24Then you get your phone back.

00:14:25Go.

00:14:25What's next?

00:14:26I have text messages here from Trevor.

00:14:28This will show where when he was dating Natasha, they had agreed that they would pay for their

00:14:34phones up front so that I would put them on my business plan.

00:14:37I told him I would only do that if they paid for the phones up front because when I took

00:14:41Trevor to Verizon, I said, if they don't pay for their phone bill, as long as they've paid

00:14:47for these phones in full, I can shut them off and it will cost my business no money.

00:14:51Correct?

00:14:52And the lady said, that is right.

00:14:54I said, okay, then we can do it.

00:14:55So we added them to the bill, to the business plan.

00:14:59And here where I text him, I said, you and Natasha told me you were paying for the phone

00:15:03in cash.

00:15:04That's why I allowed you on my business plan.

00:15:06Now I found out that you did not pay for the phones up front because when we were in there,

00:15:12he and Natasha had the cash.

00:15:13Did you assure Mr. Snyder that you were going to pay for the phone?

00:15:18I had no idea I was even going to get a phone until Natasha said, go with Adam and go pick

00:15:23up our phones.

00:15:24That's all I heard.

00:15:25And that's what I did.

00:15:26I didn't know about the cash.

00:15:26You can't say that to me because the lovely Natasha isn't here either.

00:15:30Sir, you're going to get your phone back.

00:15:32Is it one phone or more?

00:15:33We recovered the second one from there.

00:15:35Well, you're going to recover this one too.

00:15:37You recovered the second one.

00:15:38The second one was Natasha's?

00:15:39Correct.

00:15:40Great.

00:15:40We're going to recover this one too.

00:15:42What's next?

00:15:43Changing lock fees and you want a personal loan.

00:15:46Okay.

00:15:47So once he moved out, according to you, he moved out totally and you didn't even know

00:15:50who he moved out.

00:15:51So I don't know why the locks were changed.

00:15:53The lock did not need changed.

00:15:55I did tell the court that we were going to have to change the locks because the key was

00:15:59missing.

00:16:00I didn't know that while I was away on storm, Julie had gone in to check and make sure the

00:16:04water wasn't running and she found the key on the table.

00:16:06That is what Trevor said.

00:16:07Okay, great.

00:16:07So we're going to eliminate that.

00:16:09And now we're going to go to the small loan that you say that you made to the defendant.

00:16:14So Natasha came over, guys.

00:16:15He said she worked at...

00:16:16Don't tell me what Natasha asked you.

00:16:19That's all hearsay.

00:16:20I need to know what conversations you had with the defendant.

00:16:24Okay.

00:16:24But she came over...

00:16:26But you can't tell me what she said, you see.

00:16:27Okay.

00:16:28So anyway...

00:16:29And if you made a contract...

00:16:30If you made a contract with Natasha for a loan of money, even if it went for his benefit,

00:16:37do you understand?

00:16:38Okay.

00:16:38Even if it went for his benefit, he's not responsible.

00:16:41If Natasha says, I want you to give...

00:16:43What's your first name?

00:16:44Trevor.

00:16:45Trevor.

00:16:46A loan to fix his car.

00:16:47And you say, okay.

00:16:49You need somebody to pay you back.

00:16:51Natasha has to say, I'll pay you back.

00:16:53However, you can't tell me that.

00:16:55I was not in the house at the time when they were discussing that.

00:17:01Well, you said you went into the house.

00:17:03I came to pick Natasha up.

00:17:05I don't want you to make yourself appear any more...

00:17:07Wages.

00:17:08Now, did you ever have a conversation with Trevor about money?

00:17:13I do.

00:17:13I have a text message telling him...

00:17:15No, no.

00:17:15Tell me.

00:17:16Not a text message.

00:17:17The conversation was not verbal.

00:17:19It was by text message.

00:17:20Correct.

00:17:20Okay.

00:17:21So I'd like to see text message from him.

00:17:23Yep.

00:17:24This is from Trevor.

00:17:25This is his number.

00:17:25Okay.

00:17:26Can I see it, please?

00:17:34He did pay me $100 in cash.

00:17:36Okay.

00:17:36So it's clear from this text exchange, sir,

00:17:40that you borrowed a certain amount of money from the plaintiff.

00:17:44I did not borrow it in time.

00:17:45Yes.

00:17:45Well, it acknowledges it here because you say, I start that job on the 14th.

00:17:50I will pay you back out of my first check.

00:17:53It was for me, and I will pay it.

00:17:56That's what you wrote.

00:17:57Do you understand?

00:17:58Do you want to look at it?

00:17:59No.

00:18:00You don't want to look at it.

00:18:01You're not questioning me.

00:18:02So you...

00:18:03It's clear from this that you borrowed money from Miss Ailes.

00:18:08I personally did not.

00:18:09I didn't even know what was going on.

00:18:10Who wrote this?

00:18:11I start that job on the 14th.

00:18:14That was me.

00:18:15Well, then, that's in response to her text message to you that says,

00:18:20Hello, Trevor.

00:18:20I heard you were moving out, and I need that paid by the end of the month.

00:18:24I have been very patient as no attempt has been made on this.

00:18:28And you immediately wrote back to her and said,

00:18:31I start that job on the 14th, and I will pay you out of my first paycheck.

00:18:37That's what you said to her.

00:18:38Yes, ma'am.

00:18:39You mean, yes, ma'am.

00:18:40Now, I'm going to get back and ask you the question I think I asked before.

00:18:44What was the loan for?

00:18:46I broke down in Oklahoma.

00:18:47And what month and year was that?

00:18:49About September of last year.

00:18:51September of 2021 is just about when you started dating Natasha.

00:18:56Correct.

00:18:56Okay, so your car broke down in Oklahoma.

00:18:59And?

00:18:59And it had to get fixed.

00:19:02And?

00:19:03So I rode the Greyhound bus back up to Michigan,

00:19:07and waited until my car got fixed.

00:19:10It took months.

00:19:12I'm asking you, what was the loan for?

00:19:14To go back down and get my car.

00:19:16So it was $670 that you borrowed from her,

00:19:20and I want to know how it was that you got the money.

00:19:23I came in to Julie's house, and Natasha said,

00:19:27you're going to Oklahoma to pick up your car,

00:19:29because I had, I didn't have any money right then and there,

00:19:32but I wasn't going to ask anybody.

00:19:33Just a second.

00:19:34I don't care what you were going to do, what you didn't do,

00:19:37what you thought about doing.

00:19:38You went in to the house that the plaintiffs share.

00:19:42Mm-hmm.

00:19:43Not uh-huh.

00:19:44Uh-huh is not an answer.

00:19:45The answer is yes.

00:19:46The lovely Natasha was there.

00:19:48Yes.

00:19:49With Julie.

00:19:50Yes.

00:19:50What did you say, and what did Julie say to you?

00:19:53Just Julie.

00:19:54Julie didn't really say anything.

00:19:56She said, don't tell Adam about the money.

00:19:58Okay, so she said she would give you money.

00:20:00Yes.

00:20:00And she knew exactly how much you needed.

00:20:03Yes.

00:20:03Did you tell her that?

00:20:04No.

00:20:04Okay.

00:20:05When she gave you the money, did she give it to you in check or cash?

00:20:08She didn't give me no money.

00:20:10She gave Natasha the money.

00:20:12Okay.

00:20:13How much was it?

00:20:13$700, around there.

00:20:15And after it was given to you by Natasha,

00:20:18but you were all in the same room together.

00:20:20I was not in the house at the time when they were discussing that.

00:20:23Well, you said you went into the house.

00:20:25I came to pick Natasha up.

00:20:28Yes.

00:20:28I don't want you to make yourself appear any more stupid.

00:20:31Do you understand?

00:20:32Yes.

00:20:32Try not to do that.

00:20:33You were in the house with Julie and Natasha at some point,

00:20:37and at some point money was discussed.

00:20:39No.

00:20:40Was money discussed in front of him?

00:20:42No, it was not.

00:20:42Okay.

00:20:43So your loan was not with him.

00:20:45Do you understand?

00:20:45Yes.

00:20:46Unless he ratifies the loan subsequently.

00:20:49Is that correct?

00:20:50Correct.

00:20:51From my person who just studied for the bar,

00:20:54and I have to go back in my mind 50 years.

00:20:56If my memory is correct,

00:20:59if you don't make a loan directly with someone,

00:21:02they cannot be obligated to repay that money.

00:21:05However, if they subsequently get use of that money

00:21:08and subsequently agree to repay you,

00:21:11they have ratified that contract.

00:21:14Correct.

00:21:15You just have to decide if that's a ratification.

00:21:18Yeah.

00:21:18What would be your take on that?

00:21:20Take a look at it very carefully.

00:21:21What would be your take?

00:21:22It was for me.

00:21:25I will pay it.

00:21:27Seems pretty close to textbook ratification.

00:21:30Yeah, I would say so.

00:21:31I start a job on the 14th.

00:21:33I will pay you back out of my first paycheck.

00:21:35I just wanted to keep the peace,

00:21:37because she was down my throat.

00:21:38This woman was down your throat?

00:21:39Yes.

00:21:40Ha ha!

00:21:41She may have been annoyed.

00:21:43Very annoyed.

00:21:44But she wasn't down your throat.

00:21:45She was the one who volunteered to give you money

00:21:47in your time of need.

00:21:49How could she be down your throat?

00:21:51Okay.

00:21:51So, so far, you paid her back $100.

00:21:54Is that what he paid you back?

00:21:55So he owes you $600.

00:21:57Okay.

00:21:57So far, Mr. Snyder, I'm not with you on it, on the rent.

00:22:01Okay.

00:22:01I'm not with you on the lock change fees.

00:22:04I am with you on the phone, which you're going to get back.

00:22:07He's going to get that back within five days.

00:22:09Otherwise, he's going to have difficulty.

00:22:10From the day that he did the phone purchases,

00:22:14instead of paying for the phones up front,

00:22:16he also added a bunch of other cordless phone chargers

00:22:20and everything else to the bill.

00:22:22How much was, how much were the extras?

00:22:24Totally, there's $2,000.

00:22:26No, no, no.

00:22:26I don't want them at total.

00:22:27Totally, you're going to get the phone back.

00:22:29What were the extras that he charged onto the phone?

00:22:31There is a $41.99.

00:22:33$41.99.

00:22:36There is a $20.99.

00:22:38Okay, you know that I went to seven years

00:22:41of postgraduate school for this.

00:22:43Keep going.

00:22:43$29.99.

00:22:45Seven years, they were very hard years.

00:22:47I also took the bar exam.

00:22:48Keep going, $29.99.

00:22:50$17.99.

00:22:51Oh, it's getting worse.

00:22:52Not better for you, Mr. Snyder.

00:22:54$11.99.

00:22:55Worse, a lot worse.

00:22:58$122.95.

00:23:00Okay, you have a counterclaim.

00:23:03Yes, ma'am.

00:23:05For what?

00:23:05Working on the farm.

00:23:07Okay, tell me about that.

00:23:08From when to when did you work on the farm?

00:23:10November to the end of March.

00:23:13And what were you doing between November and March?

00:23:17I was feeding cattle when Adam was on storm,

00:23:21watering them.

00:23:21To March what?

00:23:22The end of March?

00:23:23Yes, right.

00:23:24I thought you worked at a factory.

00:23:26I did both.

00:23:27Well, you can't do both.

00:23:28You work at a factory.

00:23:29I asked you if you had a job.

00:23:30You said I work at a factory.

00:23:31I did do both.

00:23:32Well, now I need the name of the factory

00:23:34and find out what your shift was.

00:23:35I was off.

00:23:37And you worked during the day?

00:23:38Yes.

00:23:39From when to when?

00:23:41Time.

00:23:41From 6 to 6.

00:23:42Well, I had...

00:23:44Just a second.

00:23:45Mr. McCormick, if you work from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.,

00:23:47it is not possible to work a full-time job

00:23:49for the plaintiff as well.

00:23:51I had a schedule of three on, two off.

00:23:54Okay.

00:23:55We're making it up as we're going along.

00:23:56Did you have a financial arrangement with him

00:24:02for putting out these bales of hay?

00:24:04We never did.

00:24:05Although he did get paid for everything he did

00:24:07until the last day that he worked for me

00:24:09where we were tearing apart a building.

00:24:11That's incorrect.

00:24:12Oh, just...

00:24:12David Quadra.

00:24:13Oh, for an illegal eviction.

00:24:16Marina and David are countersuing,

00:24:18saying Kelly and Robert caused them to be evicted.

00:24:20So when you went to their house

00:24:22and you wanted to work on your marriage,

00:24:23you could have gone back to your in-laws?

00:24:25Yes, that's correct.

00:24:26You could have.

00:24:26Why didn't you?

00:24:27The reason why we decided to split up

00:24:29was because we're trying to keep our kids

00:24:30in the same school district.

00:24:31So with having four dogs,

00:24:33that's impossible to keep in an HOA.

00:24:34So she decided to go with her parents.

00:24:36I decided to stay back to finish the school year

00:24:38with the kids, still being in May,

00:24:40so they can finish in the same school district.

00:24:43That's why I decided I needed a mailing address

00:24:44so that they could stay in the same school district.

00:24:46So you mean this discussion that she just said to me

00:24:49about you having problems, marital problems,

00:24:51with your wife, that never happened?

00:24:53Irrelevant.

00:24:54It's just...

00:24:54That's not what I said.

00:24:56What I said was because I believe her.

00:24:59I believe that that's what happened.

00:25:00I believe that you called her

00:25:01and said exactly what she said.

00:25:03She told me.

00:25:05I mean, I don't have to have Whitney read it back.

00:25:06I believe that that's what you said.

00:25:08So I don't want to hear baloney about school districts

00:25:10you were having trouble with your wife.

00:25:12No, ma'am.

00:25:13No?

00:25:13No.

00:25:13And you didn't tell her that?

00:25:15We had been moved out of our old place of six years in El Cajon

00:25:19and we were trying for six months to find a new place.

00:25:22So yes, it does put a lot of stress on a relationship,

00:25:24but we did not have any marital...

00:25:26Mr. Burroughs, you know what my strong suit is,

00:25:29and there's no question that the cameras just caught your face.

00:25:32My strong suit is being able to spot a lie from a mile away.

00:25:37And I'm telling you that there's no question

00:25:39that you called her late at night and said,

00:25:41I'm having trouble with my wife.

00:25:43She asked me for a divorce.

00:25:45Can I come and stay with you?

00:25:47There's no question that whether it was true or not,

00:25:49I don't know, because clearly you're a liar.

00:25:51So maybe it wasn't true, but that's what you told her.

00:25:53Your Honor, may I speak?

00:25:55You want me to call your parents?

00:25:57Please do.

00:25:58Would you like me to call your parents?

00:25:59I'm just asking you, would you like me to call your parents?

00:26:02No.

00:26:03Of course not.

00:26:04That's an easy thing for me to do.

00:26:06Part of what was going on was that we lived in our home for six years

00:26:09and the homeowners had moved back in and so they asked us to leave

00:26:13and we had been actively searching for a home.

00:26:15So yes, it did put a bit of a strain on our marriage

00:26:18and I took my dogs with me

00:26:21so that I can keep my operating business at my parents' house

00:26:24because I am a dog boarder, dog sitter.

00:26:26And I did not want to shut my business down.

00:26:30And during this time, tensions, little things happening at my parents' house.

00:26:35So I said, you need to go see if you can rent a room

00:26:37or find somebody that can help you in the meantime

00:26:40until we can actively keep searching for a place for our family.

00:26:44We tried five different homes and we didn't care.

00:26:46I don't care.

00:26:47What I said to your husband was he lied to me

00:26:50because there's no question that he called

00:26:52and whether it was true or not that he said to your friends,

00:26:55I need a place to go.

00:26:57Do you have a place that I could stay on the couch?

00:27:00There's no question he said that to her.

00:27:03That is true.

00:27:04Yes, that is true.

00:27:04Okay, well, then I want you to introduce your husband to the truth.

00:27:09It's something that he hasn't met

00:27:11because that's not what he told me what happened.

00:27:14Correct.

00:27:14So that was a mistake of his.

00:27:16That was a mistake.

00:27:18And you know what happens when you lied to me once?

00:27:20Your case is dismissed

00:27:22because what you're suing for is being evicted

00:27:26and you go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, emotional distress.

00:27:28You lied to me once, your case is dismissed.

00:27:33Now, we're going to come over here.

00:27:36You have a counterclaim.

00:27:37Your counterclaim is money owed for property damage

00:27:41and for damages for eviction

00:27:43because what happened was your landlord evicted you

00:27:46because she comes with her four dogs,

00:27:49three gerbils, two parakeets to your house

00:27:52and the owner of your condo doesn't want her anymore

00:27:55than the owner of their last condo.

00:27:57Didn't want them, got to save your money, buy your own house

00:27:59so you can have as many dogs and parakeets as you like.

00:28:02You moved into a place that's nicer?

00:28:05Absolutely not.

00:28:06Tell me what the papers said

00:28:08when your landlord notified you of the eviction.

00:28:11Do you have them?

00:28:12We do.

00:28:13I'd like to take a look at them.

00:28:14Yes, no problem.

00:28:18There was also in that piece of paper

00:28:20a $250 fine through our HOA

00:28:22from the whole commotion that he caused

00:28:25the day of asking them to leave.

00:28:27Just a second, you were a month-to-month tenant.

00:28:29Correct.

00:28:30You didn't have a lease for two years.

00:28:31You were a month-to-month tenant.

00:28:32We had a year lease and then when the year was up

00:28:34we moved month-to-month.

00:28:35They didn't evict you.

00:28:36No, they just gave us, they asked us to leave.

00:28:37Just a second.

00:28:38Your lawsuit is for damages,

00:28:41putative damages for an eviction.

00:28:43You weren't evicted.

00:28:44Well, we were asked to leave if we...

00:28:46No, they just decided not to renew

00:28:48your month-to-month lease.

00:28:49Due to the law...

00:28:50I don't care what it was due to.

00:28:51Listen, if I owned a property

00:28:53and you let three kids, four dogs

00:28:57moved into my condo for six days,

00:29:00I wouldn't renew your lease

00:29:01on a month-to-month basis either.

00:29:03I don't care whether they were there

00:29:04for two days, four days, a week, or a month.

00:29:06You understand?

00:29:07Understood.

00:29:07Okay, so there was no eviction.

00:29:09So the punitive damages for that, forget it.

00:29:12Money owed for property damage.

00:29:14When they moved out, what did they damage?

00:29:16And how much did it cost you?

00:29:18There was a hole in the molding

00:29:20from moving the dressers down our stairs.

00:29:22They bonked it, bringing it out angrily

00:29:24because they were mad that we asked them to leave.

00:29:26We have the letters from our landlord

00:29:28stating everything they had to deduct from our deposit.

00:29:31Just a second, the hole in the wall.

00:29:32And how much was the hole in the wall?

00:29:34The molding was...

00:29:36No, just look at the paper.

00:29:38And tell me how much was the hole in the wall.

00:29:40The painting was 180

00:29:41and the molding repair was 200.

00:29:44How?

00:29:44Did you damage the molding

00:29:45when you were moving a dresser out of the house?

00:29:48Not that I'm aware of.

00:29:49Okay, not that you're aware of.

00:29:51You want to try the truth now?

00:29:53Was there a hole that you created

00:29:55moving a dresser out of the house?

00:29:57When David and I were moving our dresser

00:29:58over the stairs, down the stairs.

00:30:00Who's David?

00:30:01The defendant.

00:30:02So you were moving out the dresser with him?

00:30:05Careful.

00:30:06Introducing you to the truth.

00:30:07Did you move the dresser with him?

00:30:10I did help move the furniture out.

00:30:12The case is dismissed.

00:30:13The counterclaim likewise is dismissed.

00:30:16We're done.

00:30:17This court is adjourned.

00:30:17I take it as a win.

00:30:22The initial suit was them against us.

00:30:24Their suit got dismissed.

00:30:25We lost a lot of things and a lot of wages.

00:30:28That was just us being good friends.

00:30:30We definitely learned our lesson.

00:30:31We will never help another crying husband

00:30:33on our doorstep claiming divorce again.

00:30:35People that are offering to be nice to you

00:30:38in times of need don't charge you.

00:30:40They kind of cried,

00:30:41oh, marriage and divorce the whole time

00:30:43knowing that we're young and married.

00:30:44It's something we take seriously in our lives.

00:30:46And we're still trying to build our lives back.

00:30:49I should actually make a party

00:30:50to introduce all those people to Mr. Truth.

00:30:53I agree.

00:30:54There's a lot of mismatch.

00:30:57It doesn't make sense.

00:30:57If you're going to stay with a friend for a few days,

00:31:00you don't bring a bunk bed and two dressers.

00:31:02I've stayed with friends for a couple days,

00:31:05long weekend.

00:31:05You bring a bag with some clothes.

00:31:07Even with your kids.

00:31:08Yeah.

00:31:08You don't bring furniture.

00:31:09You don't bring any of that.

00:31:10So there's a lot of discrepancies.

00:31:12Things that didn't make sense.

00:31:13If it doesn't make sense,

00:31:14it's usually not true.

00:31:15Agreed.

00:31:16Case 2041, Dionne v. Everson.

00:31:19All parties, please step forward.

00:31:21Caitlin Dionne claims her former employer,

00:31:24Scott Everson,

00:31:25breached their contract

00:31:26to buy her baby shoe business.

00:31:29All right.

00:31:29What looks to be a complicated case,

00:31:31actually, is merely just a contract case.

00:31:34Ms. Dionne,

00:31:35you had a side business of making baby shoes.

00:31:38And I assume that those are the baby shoes.

00:31:40Yes, it was a false business.

00:31:41The defendants had a children's clothing website

00:31:44and they became familiar with your baby shoes

00:31:47and they were interested in buying your business.

00:31:50You entered into a contract

00:31:51wherein I believe that they agreed

00:31:53to pay you $30,000 for the business.

00:31:56Is that correct?

00:31:56That was the asking process.

00:31:57There was never a written contract signed.

00:31:59That's incorrect.

00:31:59Just a second.

00:32:00You entered into a deal for $30,000

00:32:04and an employment contract

00:32:06without a written contract?

00:32:09I have the written contract here, Your Honor.

00:32:10Oh, yeah.

00:32:12I would say goodbye to you all

00:32:13if there wasn't a written contract.

00:32:15There was a draft of a contract,

00:32:16the terms of which changed numerous times

00:32:18over the two years.

00:32:19No, no, no.

00:32:19You can't change a written contract.

00:32:22Was it a written contract

00:32:23that was signed by both parties?

00:32:25No.

00:32:25It was never signed.

00:32:26He refused to sign it,

00:32:27even though he was the one

00:32:28that wrote it himself

00:32:29and emailed it to me himself.

00:32:32You called him within the period

00:32:34that you were supposed to be working for him

00:32:36and said,

00:32:37This is too much for me.

00:32:38I can't do it.

00:32:39I read your complaint.

00:32:40Do you understand?

00:32:41That's a breach of your contract.

00:32:43If there are...

00:32:4308, Howard versus Brooks.

00:32:45You're welcome.

00:32:47Miss Howard, your case is simple.

00:32:49You claim a loan to the defendant

00:32:51for the down payment on a car.

00:32:53Yes.

00:32:53When did you make this loan?

00:32:55March 24th of this year.

00:32:57How much was it?

00:32:57I gave him $1,500

00:32:58and he paid $300.

00:33:01Where did you take the money from?

00:33:02I had it at my home.

00:33:03In cash?

00:33:04Yes.

00:33:05What kind of work do you do?

00:33:06I'm a hairstylist.

00:33:07I'm an owner-operator.

00:33:08Okay.

00:33:09And that's the sole source of your income?

00:33:11Yes.

00:33:11I own a salon business.

00:33:13I'm opening my second one.

00:33:14Tell me how you know the defendant.

00:33:16He was a client of a former stylist

00:33:19many years ago,

00:33:20so I met him during a salon.

00:33:21Did you have any sort of relationship with him?

00:33:24At the time that I met, no.

00:33:25No.

00:33:26At the time that you gave him this loan...

00:33:28We were friends.

00:33:29What did he say he needed the loan for?

00:33:32To get a vehicle.

00:33:33To get a car?

00:33:34He was at Mercedes

00:33:35trying to purchase another car

00:33:36and I knew he had a baby on the way,

00:33:38so I felt it was...

00:33:40I want to know what he said to you.

00:33:42He said that he needed help with a down payment.

00:33:44He was short some for a down payment

00:33:46on a car that he wanted.

00:33:47Did you have that conversation

00:33:48on the phone or in person?

00:33:49Yeah, he called me

00:33:50and asked me for originally $2,500

00:33:52to help with them with the down payment.

00:33:55And I told him,

00:33:56I don't know if I have that much.

00:33:57I'll see what I can get him.

00:33:58I had the $1,500.

00:34:00He came to pick it up in my home.

00:34:01And that was on the 24th of March?

00:34:03Yes.

00:34:03When did you purchase your car?

00:34:05I believe it was the 24th as well.

00:34:07Do you have any paperwork for the car?

00:34:09What paperwork do you have there?

00:34:10I just want to see what you brought with you today.

00:34:13Basically the link holder paper.

00:34:15And what is that supposed to tell me?

00:34:17I believe it has the date on there

00:34:19when I purchased it.

00:34:20Okay.

00:34:21And how much did you put down on the car?

00:34:23$9,000.

00:34:24Did you trade in a car?

00:34:26No.

00:34:26Why did you need $2,500 from her?

00:34:30I actually didn't ask for it.

00:34:31I just mentioned to her that I didn't get it.

00:34:33Now, just a second.

00:34:34I asked you a question.

00:34:35Okay.

00:34:35Why did you need extra money

00:34:38towards the down payment?

00:34:39Did it affect the payments?

00:34:40Did it affect the insurance?

00:34:42Did it affect the premium?

00:34:44Basically the car,

00:34:45it was like $74,000.

00:34:47So if I was to put down a lower payment,

00:34:50like you were saying,

00:34:50the payment would be higher for the monthly.

00:34:52So if I put down a little more,

00:34:54it dropped it down a little bit.

00:34:57Yeah.

00:35:00Yeah.

00:35:01So she gave you $1,500,

00:35:04not $25.

00:35:06Yes.

00:35:06But she gave you $1,500.

00:35:08Yes.

00:35:08And she gave that to you

00:35:09around the same time

00:35:10that you purchased the car.

00:35:11Were you current

00:35:12in your insurance payments on the car?

00:35:14Yes.

00:35:14And then you crashed the car.

00:35:16Yes.

00:35:17And the insurance company

00:35:18paid the lien holder on the car.

00:35:21Yes.

00:35:21Made the payout.

00:35:22Yes.

00:35:23So you didn't get any money

00:35:25from the insurance.

00:35:26No.

00:35:26So now you have no car, right?

00:35:29I don't know if you have a car now.

00:35:30I have a car, yes.

00:35:31Well, you got another car.

00:35:32Yes.

00:35:33What kind of car did you buy?

00:35:34A Tesla.

00:35:35A Tesla.

00:35:36And how much did you pay for the Tesla?

00:35:38I put down like $8,000.

00:35:40Where'd you get the $8,000 from?

00:35:42I work out of a place

00:35:43where I hold traveling nurses.

00:35:46Did you take the money out of a bank

00:35:48or did you have it in cash?

00:35:50I had it in cash.

00:35:50The $8,000.

00:35:52Yeah.

00:35:52How much money do you make

00:35:54from this business that you have?

00:35:55It varies depending on how many nurses

00:35:58I have staying there.

00:36:00So you own the property

00:36:01or do you manage the property?

00:36:03I manage the property.

00:36:04So it's basically housing nurses

00:36:06or people that travel for business.

00:36:09And how long have you had that business?

00:36:11I've been doing that for maybe a couple years now.

00:36:14That's how you support yourself?

00:36:16That and I do training as well.

00:36:19Fitness training.

00:36:20Okay.

00:36:21So now you paid back $300 of the $15, right?

00:36:25I gave her $300.

00:36:27Right.

00:36:27And when did you give her the $300?

00:36:29I'm not quite sure the date, but...

00:36:32Tell me a month.

00:36:33I'm not quite sure.

00:36:34When did he give you the $300?

00:36:36May 17.

00:36:37Okay.

00:36:37Tell me why you gave it back for $300.

00:36:40I gave it back to her because she basically...

00:36:44Not basically.

00:36:45Well, because she kept asking for it.

00:36:47So just to get her off me for a second.

00:36:50So I gave her $300.

00:36:52I didn't feel like I owed it to her

00:36:54because I thought that, you know,

00:36:56it was given to me because we were, like, really cool.

00:37:03Just a second.

00:37:04Okay.

00:37:05All right.

00:37:06Well, Ms. Howard.

00:37:08You can't be serious.

00:37:10Ms. Howard.

00:37:10Yes, ma'am.

00:37:11How long have you been operating your two salons?

00:37:14I'm opening a new one now,

00:37:16and the first one was opened in 2012.

00:37:19Do you live with anyone?

00:37:20My children.

00:37:21How many kids do you have?

00:37:23I have three.

00:37:23How old are they?

00:37:24I have a 17, 18, and 21-year-old.

00:37:27Big kids?

00:37:28Yeah, college and high school, yes.

00:37:30Who supports them?

00:37:32I do.

00:37:33From your work?

00:37:33Their father helps, too, yes.

00:37:34From your work.

00:37:35Do you live with their father?

00:37:36No.

00:37:37No.

00:37:37But he also helps.

00:37:38Yes, he does.

00:37:39And you sound like a really intelligent, put-together woman

00:37:43who's had her own business, who's got three kids, college kids.

00:37:47Yes.

00:37:48Moving forward.

00:37:49Yes.

00:37:49Why?

00:37:52Why do you think, you know, I know that you work, because if you're a hairdresser and that's

00:37:58your source of income, you work really hard.

00:38:00It takes a long time to accumulate $1,500.

00:38:03You know, I'm sure you get some tips and stuff.

00:38:05That's the cash that you keep.

00:38:06Yeah.

00:38:07So you work hard and you've got three kids who need money.

00:38:11He wants to buy an Uber expensive car, and he wants his payments to be lower.

00:38:17So he says to you, not that he needs it.

00:38:20See, he doesn't need it to get a car.

00:38:22He wants it to make his payments lower.

00:38:25That's not how he presented it to me.

00:38:27How did he present it to you?

00:38:28He said he needs help.

00:38:29He needs the money for the down payment.

00:38:31And I knew, he told me that, you know, the situation, his car got taken away or whatever.

00:38:37His car got what?

00:38:38His previous vehicle was taken from him.

00:38:40From how?

00:38:41I don't know.

00:38:42What kind of a car did you have?

00:38:44Before you bought the BMW.

00:38:46That's what it was.

00:38:47It was a BMW.

00:38:48Oh, then you bought a Mercedes.

00:38:49Yeah.

00:38:50Okay, so you bought, sorry, I got that confused.

00:38:53You bought the Mercedes using some of her money.

00:38:55Before that, you had a BMW.

00:38:59Yes.

00:38:59Okay, and now you have a Tesla.

00:39:01Do you understand how foolish that sounds?

00:39:02Yes.

00:39:03You don't want to sound foolish.

00:39:05Well, like I said, he's had a baby on the way any day now, and my compassion for the situation,

00:39:11I was like, okay, I'll give you that.

00:39:13And I know he's had a source of income.

00:39:15It's not like I've ever known him not to have an income.

00:39:18So I felt like, okay, he'll do right by me.

00:39:20Of course, he didn't.

00:39:22We see.

00:39:22Do you know how many people stand in exactly that spot and say, you know, I trusted him.

00:39:27He gave me this story.

00:39:28He gave me that story.

00:39:29Yes.

00:39:30And what I'm telling you is most of the people standing there for some reason that has always

00:39:36baffled me are women.

00:39:38Any guy who takes money from you to lower his car payment and buys a car for $75,000,

00:39:49the only people that do that sort of thing are untrustworthy.

00:39:53Then you change the contract.

00:39:54You said not acceptable.

00:39:56You're behind $500, and a late payment will only be acceptable with a current payment.

00:40:00Is there anything about that in your contract?

00:40:02There's not.

00:40:03Okay, so if it's not in your contract, it doesn't exist.

00:40:06Most of the people standing there, for some reason that has always baffled me, are women.

00:40:13Yeah.

00:40:14Very rarely do I have guys standing there and say, you know, she asked me for this,

00:40:18and so I knew she had a baby on the way, and I felt sorry, so I gave them money.

00:40:24Right.

00:40:24And most of the time, they say goodbye, which is what you should have said.

00:40:29Absolutely.

00:40:29And you appear to be much too fine a lady and a hardworking lady.

00:40:34Don't give anybody.

00:40:35No more.

00:40:36Any guy who takes money from you to lower his car payment and buys a car for $75,000

00:40:44and asks you for $1,000 or $2,000 knowing that you're a working gal and that he didn't need

00:40:51it to buy a car.

00:40:52He could have bought a car for $50,000.

00:40:53He could have bought a car for $30,000.

00:40:55Right.

00:40:55Likes to drive fancy cars with somebody else's money, okay?

00:40:59Yes.

00:40:59So the only people that do that sort of thing are untrustworthy, usually as my great-grandmother

00:41:06would call them, bums.

00:41:07So I would suggest that you be smart in the future.

00:41:10You're a hardworking lady.

00:41:11Hold on to your money.

00:41:12If you want to invest in anything, invest in your children's future.

00:41:16We're done here.

00:41:17Judge, from the plaintiff.

00:41:18This court is adjourned.

00:41:20Mr. Brooks took my money with no intentions of paying back.

00:41:23I thought it was she gave it to me.

00:41:26Oh, car crashed.

00:41:28My tires got slashed.

00:41:29I thought it was a gift because she really liked me.

00:41:32Don't let men borrow money.

00:41:36Lovely woman, hardworking woman.

00:41:38She's going to have a chain, as Dolly Parton would say, have a chain.

00:41:42You're going to have a second salon.

00:41:43On the other side, you have somebody with zero judgment.

00:41:47He's well-versed in other people's money.

00:41:49Why a perfectly sensible, bright woman would take money that she worked really hard for

00:41:54and give it to somebody that she hardly knows?

00:41:56Women have to be smarter.

00:41:57Women have to be smarter.

00:41:59Worry about themselves.

00:42:00Case 2113, Pickett v. Glick.

00:42:03All parties, please step forward.

00:42:05William Pickett is suing his former friend, Clinton Gick, for unpaid car payments and vehicle

00:42:12damage.

00:42:13Mr. Pickett, you and the defendant, according to what I've read, we're friends.

00:42:17You knew each other.

00:42:18Yes.

00:42:18You had a car that you were interested in selling.

00:42:21The defendant was interested in purchasing the car.

00:42:24Your car was a 10- or 11-year-old vehicle, is that correct?

00:42:28Yes.

00:42:28When had you purchased it?

00:42:30I purchased it about a year or so prior.

00:42:33So you only had the car for a year.

00:42:35You were not an original owner.

00:42:36Yeah.

00:42:36Did you pay cash?

00:42:37I did.

00:42:38How much did you pay for the car?

00:42:39Roughly $10,000, $9,000, $10,000.

00:42:42No, I want to know.

00:42:43I mean, you came into court today, not a roughly.

00:42:45Today we know the numbers.

00:42:47We're not talking about something that happened 20 years ago, something that happened a year ago.

00:42:51You bought a car a year ago.

00:42:53You paid cash for it, according to you.

00:42:55I want to know how much you paid for it.

00:42:56That's easy.

00:42:57You should have those records.

00:42:58$10,000.

00:42:59Well, now you say $10,000, right?

00:43:01Yep.

00:43:02Now you say $10,000.

00:43:03So now I'm going to tell you to go outside and get me the bill of sale for the car.

00:43:07I did not bring that.

00:43:09Why?

00:43:10I didn't think I needed it.

00:43:11How am I supposed to ascertain what you paid for the car, sir?

00:43:15I didn't think about that.

00:43:17You should have thought about it.

00:43:18I thought about it right off the bat.

00:43:19You had the car for one year.

00:43:21And when did you sell it to the defendant?

00:43:23$318 of $22.

00:43:24For how much?

00:43:25$10,000.

00:43:26Well, then you're a genius businessman because unless this 10, 11-year-old car, Mr. Pickett,

00:43:32had something really unusual about it, most cars depreciate the moment you drive them out of a lot.

00:43:39You bought this car from a company, which means you paid more for it than if you purchased it through a private person.

00:43:44You understand that?

00:43:45Yes.

00:43:45Of course.

00:43:46So there was clearly a markup.

00:43:48Sarah, take a look at a 2012 Dodge Charger with 148,000 miles.

00:43:56I got it.

00:43:56Between $7,500 and $10,000 for a private party sale.

00:44:00Okay.

00:44:00So, as I thought, the value of the car went down from when you bought it, but you sold it to him for $10,000 because he was making payments, I assume, because he was making payments.

00:44:10Did you have a written contract?

00:44:12I did.

00:44:12I'd like to take a look at it.

00:44:18Mr. Glick, how did you know each other, sir?

00:44:20We worked together.

00:44:22We'd known each other for about a year, I think, at the time the car was sold.

00:44:27Okay.

00:44:27So the first thing was he traded in something of value, which was he gave you a car.

00:44:34Correct.

00:44:34What kind of car did he give you?

00:44:35A Honda minivan.

00:44:36Did you have the title to that?

00:44:38Yes, I did.

00:44:39Did he turn over the title to you?

00:44:40He did.

00:44:41What did you do with the Honda minivan?

00:44:42I sold it.

00:44:43To whom?

00:44:44Someone off of Facebook Marketplace.

00:44:46Okay.

00:44:46When did you sell it?

00:44:47A few weeks afterwards.

00:44:48How much did you sell it for?

00:44:49How much did you say you sold it for?

00:44:50$1,000.

00:44:51$1,200.

00:44:52Let's get specific, Mr. Pickett.

00:44:55$1,000.

00:44:55I'm not exactly sure what he sold it for, but clearly he acknowledges at least $1,000.

00:45:00So this is what the lawsuit is about, and I've read your contract.

00:45:02According to the contract that you have here, you listed the dates, the schedule of payments, and you marked off when he paid and when he didn't.

00:45:10But we're going to go through the dates.

00:45:12And your lawsuit seeks damages to the car, repo fees, the unpaid contract price of the car because you repossessed it and you want him to continue until he's finished paying for it.

00:45:23Right.

00:45:24That's what you want.

00:45:24Yes, ma'am.

00:45:25And the defendant has a counterclaim, and his counterclaim, in effect, although he doesn't articulate it in legalese, the basis of his countersuit is that there was never any meaningful breach of the contract, and that he tried to make his payments pursuant to the contract, and that you repossessed the car without just cause, and he's counterclaiming for the money that he put into the car as equity.

00:45:48That's what your counterclaim is.

00:45:49That's correct.

00:45:50That's correct.

00:45:50Okay.

00:45:51So, so far, you put in $4,000.

00:45:54According to this, he paid you March of 2022, April.

00:45:58As a matter of fact, he made two payments.

00:46:01Correct.

00:46:01Payment schedules for every two weeks.

00:46:03Shh.

00:46:04$6,17, he made a partial payment, but made that up on $7,1, so he was up to date.

00:46:10Then you say on the 15th of July, he missed a payment.

00:46:14Did you miss a payment the 15th of July?

00:46:16Yes, I did, Your Honor.

00:46:18Tell me why.

00:46:18At that point, the plaintiff had already threatened to repossess the car several times before I'd ever missed a payment on the car.

00:46:26Because you made a partial payment once in June.

00:46:29Yeah, and also.

00:46:30But then made it up again within two weeks.

00:46:33Yes, exactly.

00:46:33Okay, so you had already said to him, you missed payments, I'm going to repossess the car.

00:46:37I informed him I didn't threaten to repossess it.

00:46:39No, no.

00:46:39Yeah, that, yes.

00:46:40Yeah.

00:46:41Yes.

00:46:41Okay, so you missed a payment on July 15th.

00:46:44Yes, and I informed him when I missed the payment that the reason for missing it, he had just filed for bankruptcy.

00:46:51And with his bankruptcy and the threats to repossess the car, I had decided that I wanted to miss, as it states in the contract, that I could miss two consecutive payments before repossession.

00:47:04I wanted to talk to a lawyer and make sure that I wasn't going to be putting even more money into a car than I was.

00:47:10A car that you weren't going to have equity in.

00:47:11Exactly.

00:47:12Okay, so that's why you missed July 15th.

00:47:14Yes, that's correct.

00:47:15Okay, and it's the 29th of July, also missed.

00:47:18Yes, so I attempted to give Mr. Pickett a $500 payment on the 29th.

00:47:25He refused to accept that payment, and I have that in text.

00:47:29I'd like to see it.

00:47:29Text messages.

00:47:30I'd like to see it.

00:47:31Do you acknowledge that he attempted to give you a payment on the 29th?

00:47:36Yeah, he attempted to make a partial payment.

00:47:38He attempted to give you $500.

00:47:40Correct.

00:47:40And tell me why you didn't accept the $500.

00:47:47He missed the payment on the 15th.

00:47:49I informed him on the 16th that I would not accept a late payment unless it's in conjunction with the current payment.

00:47:54You can't change the contract, sir.

00:47:56You can't change a written contract.

00:48:00There was a loan on this car.

00:48:01Yeah, there was a title loan on it.

00:48:03Oh, you didn't tell me that.

00:48:04That adds a different wrinkle to this whole thing, because he told me you paid cash for the car, so I assume...

00:48:09All's pretenses.

00:48:10Now, you had a written contract with him.

00:48:12If you're changing the terms, he has to agree to the terms in writing in the same force and manner of the original contract,

00:48:18which is this in writing signed by both parties.

00:48:21You have a contract here.

00:48:22The contract says he can't miss two consecutive payments.

00:48:25He wasn't missing two consecutive payments.

00:48:27He missed July 15th, and he tried to give you one on the 29th of July.

00:48:31If you refuse to accept it, he hasn't missed two payments.

00:48:34You refuse to accept the second one.

00:48:36Got it?

00:48:37Got it.

00:48:38Okay.

00:48:43Well, I see the interchange, Mr. Pickett, and the interchange clearly says,

00:48:47you're paying $1,000 today or returning my car.

00:48:51He says, I'll be giving you my $500 payment that's due today.

00:48:55Then you change the contract.

00:48:56He said, not acceptable.

00:48:57You're behind $500, and a late payment will only be acceptable with a current payment.

00:49:02Is there anything about that in your contract?

00:49:04There's not.

00:49:05Okay.

00:49:05So if it's not in your contract, it doesn't exist, and you had, so far, no reason to repossess the car.

00:49:10Did he try to make a payment to you in August?

00:49:13I think one other time between the time I repossessed it.

00:49:17Okay.

00:49:17Well, you had no reason to repossess it, so far, unless he missed two consecutive payments,

00:49:21or unless he failed to keep insurance.

00:49:23Did he fail to keep insurance?

00:49:24I have never been given proof of insurance.

00:49:27This doesn't require that you are given proof of insurance.

00:49:31I don't know if you have insurance or not.

00:49:31This doesn't say you require proof.

00:49:34Did you have insurance on the car?

00:49:35Yes, I did, Your Honor.

00:49:36Through whom?

00:49:37Erie Insurance Agency.

00:49:38Okay.

00:49:39And you have no information to the contrary?

00:49:41I don't.

00:49:42Okay, fine.

00:49:42So at the time you repossessed the car so far, Mr. Pickett, you didn't have basis under your contract to repossess the car.

00:49:49There was also other terms that I believed he had violated.

00:49:52Well, let's hear them.

00:49:53So far, he didn't miss two consecutive payments.

00:49:55Had you filed for bankruptcy?

00:49:57I had started filing for bankruptcy, yeah.

00:49:58Is that completed?

00:50:00Still hasn't been discharged yet.

00:50:02I think I have another month or so.

00:50:03Was this the first time you filed for bankruptcy?

00:50:05Yes, ma'am.

00:50:05Buyer misses two or more consecutive payments.

00:50:08Buyer fails to maintain full coverage under insurance.

00:50:11Any significant damage to the vehicle that is not repaired in 30 days?

00:50:16Did you notify Mr. Glick of any damage to the car, give him notice, and say pursuant to the contract has to be fixed in 30 days?

00:50:24We had talked about it when he came to drop off one of his payments, and he said...

00:50:28Well, give me a month.

00:50:29It was...

00:50:30A month and a year.

00:50:31It was in June.

00:50:32June of 2022, he came over to drop off a payment,

00:50:37and that would have either been on June 3rd or June 17th.

00:50:43Okay, and tell me about the conversation.

00:50:45I said, hey, there's a dent in the front now, and he said he'll get taken care of.

00:50:50At that point, I didn't really inspect the car because...

00:50:52Well, I don't care what you didn't do.

00:50:54I want to know what you did.

00:50:55Yeah, I told him, you know, it needs to be fixed, and he said he'll get taken care of.

00:51:00Okay, and?

00:51:01When I repossessed it, it was still there, as well as more damage.

00:51:05Okay.

00:51:05Did he talk to you about the dent in the front?

00:51:07I don't recall that conversation ever happening.

00:51:10There was text messages sent to me about damage to the car.

00:51:14The car had dents and dings all over it when I got the car.

00:51:18I mean, the front bumper even had significant damage to it.

00:51:21You repossessed the car at the end of August.

00:51:23Where is the car now?

00:51:24At my house.

00:51:25What's it doing at your house?

00:51:26I was just sitting there for the moment.

00:51:28Well, what's your intention to do with the car?

00:51:30Give it up in my bankruptcy or repair it and keep it and pay it off.

00:51:33Who has the title?

00:51:34The title loan company.

00:51:36So there was a loan on this car?

00:51:37Yeah, there was a title loan on it.

00:51:39Oh, you didn't tell me that.

00:51:40That adds a different wrinkle to this whole thing because you told me you paid cash for the car,

00:51:44so I assume there was not a problem.

00:51:46When did you take out a title loan on the car?

00:51:47I took out the title loan...

00:51:49Month and year?

00:51:50One of them was in December of 21.

00:51:53Did you know that there was a title loan taken out on this car?

00:51:56I knew that there was one.

00:51:57I didn't know that there were multiple.

00:51:59I don't know.

00:52:00But yeah, I did know there was a title loan.

00:52:02Did you know in what amount?

00:52:03No.

00:52:04I was never...

00:52:04Well, that's pretty dumb of you.

00:52:06Yeah.

00:52:07I agree.

00:52:08Well, because if you're buying something free and clear that he owes nothing on, that's one thing.

00:52:12How much was the title loan?

00:52:13Roughly $6,000 is what was owed on it still at that point when he bought it.

00:52:18How much did you pay off?

00:52:19$2,000 by that point.

00:52:22It's super high interest.

00:52:23Okay, dokey.

00:52:24Mr. Pickett, your claim against the defendant is dismissed.

00:52:28I'm now entertaining his counterclaim.

00:52:30Do you understand?

00:52:30Yes, ma'am.

00:52:31You get stuck with this car.

00:52:32Now, the problem is, you drove this car.

00:52:35Was it your primary source of driving the car?

00:52:37Yes, it was.

00:52:38Okay.

00:52:39For one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten months, right?

00:52:45Yes.

00:52:45Okay.

00:52:46So, Mr. Glick, this was your primary vehicle.

00:52:48How much do you think it would cost you to rent a car per month?

00:52:52Per month.

00:52:53Give me a figure.

00:52:54To rent a car per month?

00:52:56I would say $900 a month, probably something like that, $900,000 a month, maybe.

00:53:02Okay.

00:53:03Based upon what you told me, it's not so egregious because you had the use of the car for 10 months.

00:53:08I actually don't think that an 11-year-old car would cost that much to rent, $900 a month,

00:53:15considering that you also paid for your own insurance.

00:53:18Correct.

00:53:18And if you rented a car, that insurance would, of necessity, come with a car.

00:53:23Sarah, could you look up for me best deals on leasing a Dodge Charger?

00:53:29I don't know what that is.

00:53:30Is that a truck?

00:53:31That's a car.

00:53:32Is there a site where you could look that up?

00:53:34I'll see what I could find.

00:53:34But the intention was that money was going to go towards, you know, something that I would own.

00:53:41Well, I understand that.

00:53:42But you had full use of his property for 10 months.

00:53:45Sure.

00:53:45You don't think it's fair for you not to pay for some of that use?

00:53:49I would think the depreciation in the car for the mileage that I put on it would be more than fair.

00:53:55Absolutely.

00:53:55Everything depends on how much you put down versus how much you pay monthly.

00:54:00So there's a wide range.

00:54:01Wide range.

00:54:01Give me the range.

00:54:02He didn't put anything.

00:54:03$786 a month.

00:54:04$843 a month.

00:54:05But these are for brand new Dodge Chargers, not for 2012.

00:54:08Oh.

00:54:09So.

00:54:09Okay.

00:54:10And according to you, the current low price on this car is $7,500 price.

00:54:17For a private party.

00:54:17For a private party, low price, $7,500.

00:54:20Yes.

00:54:21So you're going to resell this car.

00:54:23And the car is currently in working order.

00:54:26And the low price on that car is $7,500, right?

00:54:30Yes.

00:54:30And he's already paid you $5,000.

00:54:34Yes.

00:54:34In order to break even, if you sold that car, all you need is $2,500.

00:54:40Correct.

00:54:40So I think that it's more than fair to give you credit for the $2,500 from what you paid.

00:54:47Okay.

00:54:48He paid $5,000.

00:54:48Half of that seems to be a more than reasonable figure to have full use of his property.

00:54:54And he repossessed the car.

00:54:56I don't think he had any basis to repossess the car, which is why he dismissed his case.

00:55:01And you certainly don't want to get involved with bankruptcies and payments.

00:55:06So you don't want this car back, because getting this car back will be more trouble for you than anything else.

00:55:11Exactly.

00:55:12I absolutely understand that, because then you're dealing with his creditors and whatever.

00:55:17I'm not trusting that whole situation.

00:55:18In any event, I don't think that you paying $2,500 towards the rental of the car over a 10-month period is unreasonable.

00:55:26And then he's whole.

00:55:27Then if he wants to spend money to have the car spruced up before he sells it, well, maybe he can get $8,500 for it.

00:55:33And then he's whole.

00:55:34So now everybody's happy.

00:55:36Judgment's on the counterclaim for $2,500.

00:55:39We're finished.

00:55:39Thank you very much.

00:55:40Thank you, Your Honor.

00:55:41Whose court is adjourned?

00:55:42I'm very happy.

00:55:43Need a car?

00:55:44I had a car.

00:55:44I don't think it was an honest transaction on his part.

00:55:46I'll keep buying and selling.

00:55:48So, yeah, I think he was just trying to get a quick payday.

00:55:51So I just want to make sure I have this right.

00:55:53The defendant was paying the plaintiff $1,000 a month towards the vehicle that the plaintiff had a title loan out on.

00:56:01But instead of paying off the title loan so the defendant would have the car free and clear, he decided to keep the payments and not pay off the title loan.

00:56:10Correct.

00:56:10Which means that even after he completed the payments, which he was halfway finished with, he could not have gotten clear title.

00:56:19Yeah.

00:56:19Because the title is with the loan company.

00:56:21And he's filed for bankruptcy, so you can't come against him.

00:56:24Claims her daughter, Jessica Crane, is wrongfully keeping her son's property and money from his GoFundMe fundraiser.

00:56:33I want to see the paperwork on the loan.

00:56:48Okay.

00:56:48Sarah, when we finish with this case, call credit union, advise them who has the truck.

00:56:53Let them go repossess the truck.

00:56:55We're finished here.

00:56:56Your case is dismissed.

00:56:57This court is adjourned.

00:56:58I had an addiction problem, and she's just angry.

00:57:04She's angry at me, and I've tried to make amends.

00:57:08I've tried to get this better, and she won't have it.

00:57:11My daughter got away with taking absolutely everything, and she wasn't entitled to it.

00:57:15I think that if there's any lesson to be taken away, aside from the fact that you're not supposed to fight, you know, when you lose somebody so young and so vital.

00:57:25The one innocent party is the credit union who loaned him the money to buy the truck.

00:57:31She's been hiding the truck now for five months, hasn't made a payment on it.

00:57:35The right thing to do is for her to turn that truck into the credit union, because I can't control that, except that I can advise the credit union where she is, who she is, that she has possession of the truck, and they should go and repossess it.

00:57:49Anyway, it's all very sad.

00:57:50Before you donate money to a GoFundMe page, make sure you know where the money is going.

00:57:54I think that that's the takeaway from this.

00:57:56Case 2161, Shaheen v. Larry.

00:57:59All parties, please step forward.

00:58:00Shamal Shaheen is suing his neighbor, Sabrina Larry, for car damage after Sabrina hit his vehicle and a house.

00:58:10Mr. Shaheen, tell me where you live.

00:58:12I live in Moorhead, Minnesota.

00:58:13And on September 8th of this year, you parked your relatively new car that, according to you, you got a week before.

00:58:22No, Your Honor.

00:58:23I just purchased a Sequoia a week before.

00:58:26No, actually, it's not the new car.

00:58:30I mean, it's an old, it's a used car, but it's, I purchased it maybe a year before that, not exactly a week.

00:58:38Okay.

00:58:38So it's not a new car, and you didn't purchase it a week before?

00:58:41No.

00:58:41But you parked it in front of your house.

00:58:43Do you have a photograph of the car?

00:58:44I do.

00:58:45I'd like to see it.

00:58:45And it is your claim that the defendant, Ms. Larry, while under some sort of influence or some sort of substance, was driving her car, had an accident, hit your car, and caused it to move 25 feet, and it was damaged.

00:59:01Yes.

00:59:01And the damage to the car was the rear bumper.

00:59:05Yep.

00:59:05Not yep.

00:59:06Yes is the answer.

00:59:07Yes.

00:59:08Yes is the answer.

00:59:09Okay.

00:59:09Ms. Larry, what time did you have your accident?

00:59:12At 9 or 10 a.m.

00:59:13On the 8th.

00:59:15Yes.

00:59:15Where were you coming from?

00:59:17The grocery store.

00:59:18Where were you going?

00:59:20Home.

00:59:20What kind of drugs had you taken?

00:59:22I was taking Benadryl, prescription medication.

00:59:25That's all I had.

00:59:27That's what I took.

00:59:28Can I see the police report?

00:59:29You remember hitting his car?

00:59:31No.

00:59:31You remember the police coming to where your car stopped?

00:59:34No.

00:59:35No, I don't remember the police coming.

00:59:37Well, did the police come?

00:59:38They did, yes.

00:59:39And you don't remember that?

00:59:40I don't remember that.

00:59:41Were you taken to a hospital?

00:59:42I was.

00:59:42You have the discharge notes from the hospital?

00:59:45I do.

00:59:45I'd like to see it.

00:59:46What kind of narcotics were found inside the vehicle?

00:59:49It's alleged that it was a...

00:59:50No, it's not alleged.

00:59:52This is a police report.

00:59:53I'm asking you.

00:59:54What kind of narcotics were found in your car?

00:59:57They said that they found a round blue pill that had an M30 on it.

01:00:02That's what it stated.

01:00:03Sarah, do me a favor.

01:00:04Sure.

01:00:04Look up under illegal drugs, M30.

01:00:10So, M30s imitate oxycodone obtained from a pharmacy, but when sold on the streets, the

01:00:17pills routinely contain fentanyl.

01:00:19Look up this name, Percocet.

01:00:22You smoke Percocet?

01:00:23How do you smoke Percocet?

01:00:26That's the only thing you remembered.

01:00:27You didn't remember the accident.

01:00:29Patient remembers smoking Percocet pill just prior to allegedly passing out and crashing

01:00:35her vehicle.

01:00:36That's what they say from your doctor.

01:00:40Yeah, that's what they're saying.

01:00:42Well, that's what they're saying.

01:00:43The history is provided by the patient.

01:00:45The history is limited by condition of the patient.

01:00:48History is limited because the patient does not remember the actual automobile accident.

01:00:52Remember smoking Percocet pill just prior to allegedly passing out and crashing her vehicle.

01:00:59You think the doctor made that up?

01:01:01And they just so happened to have found this blue pill in your console in your car?

01:01:06That's what they are saying.

01:01:07Okay.

01:01:08You actually know you could have killed yourself.

01:01:10Yeah.

01:01:11Okay.

01:01:11And you don't remember anything about it because that's what you told them.

01:01:14You don't remember anything about anything after you smoked the little blue pill, which

01:01:18is what they said.

01:01:19So, your car was moved.

01:01:20That's the damage to your car.

01:01:22Yeah.

01:01:22So, can I see the estimate for the damage, please?

01:01:25I think...

01:01:26You gave it to me?

01:01:27Yeah.

01:01:27Okay, great.

01:01:28Have you had the car fixed?

01:01:29Just the bag tail light that I had to put it on.

01:01:33I was trying to fix it, but don't have any money to do it.

01:01:37Sarah, look up, please, would you?

01:01:38I'm looking it up right now.

01:01:39Oh, great.

01:01:41Oh, it's a 21-year-old car.

01:01:43It's got 226,000 miles on it.

01:01:46How much did you pay for it, sir?

01:01:47I paid 10.

01:01:48We're not going to spend seven to fix it.

01:01:51But that's how much it costs.

01:01:52You find somebody to do it less.

01:01:54Well, now I am without a car.

01:01:56You're not without a car, sir.

01:01:57You put on the tail light so that you could drive it.

01:01:59This car is not not drivable.

01:02:01That car was dragged.

01:02:02That back axle, it shakes.

01:02:04I can't drive it in a highway.

01:02:05Between $2,000 and $5,000.

01:02:06Between $2,000 and $5,000.

01:02:07You paid too much for the car, sir.

01:02:09You don't understand something, sir.

01:02:11Even though she was high on drugs and passed out in her car

01:02:15and you were not at fault, it's not windfall day.

01:02:19If you can buy the car for $2,000,

01:02:22buy an old 22-year-old car for $2,000.

01:02:25She's not paying you $7,000 to fix a $2,000 car.

01:02:29That's ridiculous, and I'm not stupid.

01:02:33Do we understand each other?

01:02:34Now, between...

01:02:35$2,500 and $5,000 based off of a $250,000 mile 2002 toilet.

01:02:41So you have to find somebody who's going to fix your car for $3,000, sir.

01:02:45That's $1,000 more than you could buy it for.

01:02:47We're done here.

01:02:48Judgment for the plaintiff.

01:02:49This court is adjourned.

01:02:52I would remember if I had a car and I didn't.

01:02:54She ran into my car, run into a garage.

01:02:57I know exactly what I took, and it definitely wasn't narcotics.

01:03:01That area that I was living in, it's a really bad area.

01:03:05A lot of drugs are going on over there.

01:03:07I'm very, very lucky.

01:03:08I'm very blessed.

01:03:09Like she said, I could be dead.

01:03:11Just the audacity of some plaintiffs to come in here

01:03:14with an almost 20, no, over a 22-year-old car

01:03:19with 275,000 miles on it.

01:03:22And I looked it up, and I even priced it on the positive end,

01:03:26the private party value, not a trade-in and so forth.

01:03:29$7,000.

01:03:30He was comfortable asking the court

01:03:32for a car that's not even worth $7,000.

01:03:35Yeah, he would buy...

01:03:36For a back panel.

01:03:37Buy a new one.

01:03:38He was lying when I said,

01:03:39how much did you pay for the car?

01:03:40$10,000.

01:03:41That's ridiculous.

01:03:42And he just bought it, he said, a year ago.

01:03:44In the papers, he said he bought it a week before.

01:03:46So either it was a week or a year.

01:03:49Either way, not worth $7,000.

01:03:50Not worth $7,000.

01:03:53Want justice?

01:03:54Go to Judy Justice Maude Gatlin.

01:03:57Claims her 18-year-old great-granddaughter,

01:04:00Angelina Marshall, used her account

01:04:02to cash fraudulent checks.

01:04:04Okay, now, according to you,

01:04:06your father's been in and out of prison.

01:04:07Yes.

01:04:08How long had he been out of prison

01:04:10when he came to the house?

01:04:11I'm going to be honest,

01:04:14I don't know,

01:04:14because he's honestly brave

01:04:16in and out of jail a lot.

01:04:17So I don't want to keep track

01:04:18of how many times he gets out and then...

01:04:20Well, I'm just asking,

01:04:21when they came to your house in July,

01:04:23had he been in jail in June,

01:04:25in April?

01:04:26April.

01:04:27May?

01:04:27April.

01:04:27He'd been in jail in April.

01:04:28In May?

01:04:29No, he was not in jail.

01:04:31Where was he working?

01:04:32He was actually...

01:04:33He wasn't working anywhere.

01:04:35He wasn't working in May?

01:04:36No, he does his own thing.

01:04:38What is...

01:04:39I don't know what that means.

01:04:40I don't know what...

01:04:41Good.

01:04:42Was he working in May?

01:04:43Was he working in June?

01:04:45No.

01:04:46When you say he was doing his own thing,

01:04:47this own thing that he was doing

01:04:49did not produce paychecks.

01:04:51I don't get into my father's business,

01:04:53but I wouldn't know.

01:04:54So you took these checks.

01:04:55Do you have a copy of the check?

01:04:57Anybody have a copy of the first check from...

01:04:59I only have one.

01:05:01All four of them is there.

01:05:02Well, first of all,

01:05:09I don't see any signature on here.

01:05:11On the first one, there isn't.

01:05:13On the 3560, Your Honor, there isn't?

01:05:16No, on 600.

01:05:17600, 1200.

01:05:18There isn't any signature on any of them.

01:05:20It's just that she wrote her name on it

01:05:22and screenshot them into the account.

01:05:25Now...

01:05:25And I do have to break down.

01:05:27I'm sorry.

01:05:28Just a second.

01:05:28Okay.

01:05:29I do have these checks

01:05:31starting to be deposited in August.

01:05:35One on the 11th, two written to you on the 16th.

01:05:38From a Suzanne.

01:05:41And they're made out to you, right?

01:05:43Yes.

01:05:44You're not a stupid person, right?

01:05:47No.

01:05:47I want you to tell me who Suzanne is.

01:05:50I wouldn't know.

01:05:51My dad did.

01:05:52I swear my dad just gave them to me

01:05:53and told me to cash them.

01:05:54Well, Ms. Marshall,

01:05:56you have checks that are made out to you

01:05:58from a person that you don't know.

01:06:01Not from one of your work checks.

01:06:04It's made out to you.

01:06:05It's signed by somebody who you work for.

01:06:07It indicates the number of hours on the stub.

01:06:10Do you know what I'm talking about?

01:06:11Yes.

01:06:12This is written by somebody

01:06:14that you have no idea who it is.

01:06:16Now, a person with a modicum of intelligence

01:06:19that has an unsigned check

01:06:21would say,

01:06:23who is Suzanne?

01:06:26Are you telling me

01:06:27that you didn't ask that question?

01:06:29No.

01:06:30Now, when you signed the checks,

01:06:32because they had to be signed,

01:06:34right?

01:06:35Yes.

01:06:36Whose name did you sign?

01:06:38My name.

01:06:38Well, the checks are made out to you,

01:06:41which means you could have cashed them.

01:06:43Am I missing something?

01:06:44So her name was docu-signed on these checks,

01:06:49and she merely endorsed them?

01:06:51Is that what you're telling me?

01:06:52Basically, what I'm seeing

01:06:54from what the bank told me,

01:06:55she put her name on it,

01:06:57put the amount that she wanted to withdraw,

01:06:59did a screenshot,

01:07:01and got the money.

01:07:02Okay.

01:07:03Now, okay,

01:07:04there did come a time

01:07:06when you found out

01:07:08that these checks

01:07:09were bad checks,

01:07:11right?

01:07:12Yes.

01:07:13And that they were going

01:07:14to hold your great-grandmother

01:07:16responsible for those checks

01:07:18because you already took out the cash,

01:07:21and you spent it,

01:07:22all of it,

01:07:23not your pay.

01:07:24You may have taken out your pay, too.

01:07:26I'm going to ask you

01:07:27a very serious question.

01:07:28Did you give your father

01:07:30any portion of checks

01:07:32that he gave you?

01:07:34Did he say to you,

01:07:35well, this is work that I did

01:07:37for this woman,

01:07:39so if you cash them,

01:07:41you can give me some,

01:07:42and you can keep the rest?

01:07:43Think carefully

01:07:44before you answer my question.

01:07:46No, Your Honor.

01:07:47So he just said to you,

01:07:48take these blank checks,

01:07:49fill them in,

01:07:50and deposit them.

01:07:52No, he's the one

01:07:53that filled them in.

01:07:54He just told me this.

01:07:55I'm like,

01:07:55I looked at him,

01:07:56I'm like,

01:07:56Dad, are you sure?

01:07:57He's like,

01:07:58he's like,

01:07:58trust me, Lena,

01:07:59they're fine.

01:07:59I'm like,

01:08:00Well, why would you trust him?

01:08:02What does he go to jail for?

01:08:04Way different stuff from me.

01:08:06Sounds like a dreamboat.

01:08:07Well,

01:08:08so now I'm going to ask you,

01:08:09you took this money out,

01:08:11and what'd you do with it?

01:08:12Paid bills,

01:08:14bought stuff I needed

01:08:14for my daughter.

01:08:15Like what?

01:08:16Diapers,

01:08:17clothes,

01:08:17shoes,

01:08:18you know,

01:08:19saving just in case

01:08:20I needed some more stuff

01:08:21for her,

01:08:22but I really didn't save.

01:08:23Took her to places

01:08:24just to get her out the house,

01:08:26and

01:08:27what happened

01:08:29when your grandmother

01:08:30told you that the checks

01:08:31were bad?

01:08:32Did she tell you

01:08:32at one time

01:08:33that all the checks

01:08:34were bad,

01:08:35or did she tell you

01:08:35over a series of times?

01:08:37She only,

01:08:37she told me twice.

01:08:38Twice.

01:08:39The first time

01:08:39was $400 something,

01:08:40and I was like,

01:08:40okay,

01:08:41I didn't know

01:08:42because I was trying

01:08:42to get into my account.

01:08:43I didn't know about it.

01:08:44I'm like,

01:08:44okay,

01:08:44she's like,

01:08:45are you going to pay it

01:08:46so it won't come back on me?

01:08:47I'm like,

01:08:47yes,

01:08:47I will pay it.

01:08:48You're talking very fast.

01:08:50Sorry.

01:08:50I said to my grandmother,

01:08:52and my grandmother said to me,

01:08:52$400 is discounting

01:08:55because it was a bad check,

01:08:57and that must have been

01:08:57one of the first checks.

01:08:59Yes.

01:08:59And you said?

01:09:00I told her,

01:09:00I will pay it back

01:09:01once my next paycheck

01:09:02goes through.

01:09:03You will pay back what?

01:09:05The $400,

01:09:06I'm not exact how much it was,

01:09:08but I know it was $400,

01:09:10maybe $50 something.

01:09:10So now you know

01:09:11that the checks

01:09:12that your father

01:09:13was giving you are bad.

01:09:14Yes.

01:09:15That's with only $400 in it

01:09:17because you said to her,

01:09:18well,

01:09:18I'll pay you back

01:09:18because you've been using

01:09:19that money to take care of you

01:09:21in addition to the money

01:09:23that you're earning.

01:09:24Yes.

01:09:25You were using the money

01:09:26that your great-grandmother

01:09:27was earning

01:09:28to take care of you.

01:09:29So now you find out

01:09:30that the checks are bad,

01:09:31but your father gives you

01:09:32other checks.

01:09:33Did your father give you

01:09:34other checks?

01:09:35No.

01:09:36Not after everything happened

01:09:38because he,

01:09:39well,

01:09:39once everything's,

01:09:40started to happen.

01:09:41No,

01:09:41when he gave you

01:09:42the $400 check

01:09:43and the $400 check

01:09:45was returned

01:09:46and you said,

01:09:47I will replace it

01:09:48once I get to work,

01:09:49there is more

01:09:49than one check here.

01:09:51Why did you continue

01:09:52to deposit checks?

01:09:53Well,

01:09:53when they all came back

01:09:54to me about,

01:09:55oh,

01:09:55negative this,

01:09:56I was like,

01:09:57okay,

01:09:58what's going on?

01:09:59I checked

01:09:59and I said how

01:10:00the checks were bad.

01:10:02Again,

01:10:02I didn't know

01:10:03that they were bad,

01:10:04so when I saw it,

01:10:05I was like,

01:10:06okay,

01:10:06I had to find a way

01:10:07to pay it back

01:10:08so, you know,

01:10:08my great-grandmother

01:10:09won't get mad

01:10:10and no one else

01:10:10would have to get involved.

01:10:11Do you want to tell me

01:10:12how much you owe the bank?

01:10:14Okay,

01:10:14Your Honor,

01:10:15I went to the bank

01:10:16on the 23rd.

01:10:17Now,

01:10:18just tell me

01:10:18how much you owe

01:10:19to the bank.

01:10:19It's $3,600.

01:10:20That's what they

01:10:21had,

01:10:23did.

01:10:23Okay.

01:10:24At this time,

01:10:25I've been paying on it.

01:10:26At this time,

01:10:27it's $2,300

01:10:28and some change.

01:10:30I'm sorry.

01:10:32But you've been

01:10:32paying on it.

01:10:33Yes, ma'am.

01:10:34And it started

01:10:36at $3,600.

01:10:37Yes, ma'am.

01:10:38Did your great-granddaughter

01:10:40pay you any money

01:10:41towards it?

01:10:43No,

01:10:43she did not.

01:10:44Why not?

01:10:45Well,

01:10:45I was going to pay it back,

01:10:47but then she had

01:10:48my Aunt Janae

01:10:49come into my house

01:10:50and take a lot

01:10:50of my electronics.

01:10:54I would have said

01:10:55to myself,

01:10:56Self,

01:10:56this doesn't look right.

01:10:57I don't know,

01:10:59or I have to ask

01:10:59my father,

01:11:01who's writing

01:11:01all these checks,

01:11:03she's somebody

01:11:03he works for,

01:11:04or is it somebody

01:11:05his checks he stole?

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