00:00The emotional intelligence, the physical intelligence, and the strategy of these characters all sort
00:24of come together in their consciousness about how they have to look at the possibilities of
00:30what they could be, who they are.
00:32Can you talk about that?
00:33There's so many different sort of notions of existentialism here, but can you talk about
00:38sort of looking at those themes, but then making them real in your mind to play the characters?
00:45Look, I think you're right about, you know, we're talking about a show that has a concept
00:50behind it, but that concept to me was always really just a way to explore these big human
00:56questions.
00:56And these ideas of, you know, the life that you're in right now and the way it looks and
01:07the amount of money in your bank account and the career you have and your health and your
01:11family is a road that you've been traveling down and that you've arrived at in this moment.
01:18And tomorrow will be a continuation down that road.
01:21And then at some point, something tragic might happen or you might win the lottery or whatever.
01:26These big events that move us into a new road or push us onto a highway or whatever, they
01:32knock us down or they lift us up.
01:34But we look back on these marker events and often we look back on them and think, wow,
01:39if I'd have like not made a decision out of fear in that moment and I'd been more courageous
01:46or the opposite, how would my life look now?
01:50And would we in fact be having this conversation?
01:53And I think we often think about that because we're all wrapped up in our success and failure.
01:58But I think at the bottom of it all, it's about life and death.
02:02It's about things that bring us close to greatness or to our demise.
02:10And we're fascinated with the pivots and the different little windows and doors that open
02:16up in our life.
02:17And I think this show is really rich in that stuff as an exploration of questions of having
02:27gratitude or regrets.
02:29Which is common to all of us.
02:30I think it's all what Joel said.
02:33And it's the wonderful thing about working on a show like this is that we're dealing with
02:38the subject that he hits each one of us as people.
02:43Like everyone has regret.
02:44That everyone at some point made a choice that made you double think about it or everyone
02:48has dreams or wonder what if, what if.
02:51So it's a special project to be involved, to discuss those things.
02:57And that at the end, there's no right or wrong choice.
03:00A box that would allow a person to travel across the multiple realities of quantum physics.
03:08And what if he used that box to travel to my world?
03:22What if the person that abducted me is me?
03:30In adapting something like this into your own work, the aspect of perspective and perception,
03:35especially as far as Jason is concerned, and then expanding beyond that.
03:40Could you talk about that use of that?
03:42Because it's about how we perceive things, but how things are sort of placed in the frame
03:48and within the story.
03:49Well, it's, this was always going to be, first and foremost, Jason Dessen's story of a man
03:57who is ripped out of his life, his world, trying to get home.
04:01And in the book, that's all that is.
04:03It's just his point of view.
04:05In the show, we have nine episodes, nine hours to build out all these other perspectives,
04:10like Daniela's.
04:11We had no idea really.
04:13We only saw her through Jason's eyes in the book.
04:16In the show, we get to see Daniela as she sees herself.
04:20We get to see Ryan as he sees himself.
04:22Amanda.
04:23And it, I think it gives a richness to the story that the book maybe doesn't quite have.
04:31Hey, Daniela wasn't.
04:34She said, I wanted to see you.
04:38I did.
04:40And it wasn't for some picture, but.
04:42Remember Andrew Daryl?
04:47Andrew Daryl?
04:50Rich Andrew.
04:51I'm too good for this storm.
04:53He and I have $100 million in our war chest.
04:55And after today, it's going to at least triple.
05:00Wow.
05:01Wow.
05:02For you, Matt, looking at what Blake did, but then with all your experience helping and
05:07create a world, but understanding the structure.
05:09Because this could be, have been done as a feature film, but it's done as a series and
05:14it allows the characters to breathe.
05:16Could you talk about sort of that interaction with Blake, but using your experience to bring
05:20it to where it is as well?
05:22Well, I mean, you sort of answered the question quite well, which, you know, we started out
05:28on this journey to make a movie and then found ourselves, you know, reducing this thing into
05:35a shape that allowed for a two-hour movie.
05:39And a lot of things got lost along the way.
05:42And it was an interesting experience for me because, you know, I've made far more movies
05:48in my life than television shows, but the job was about servicing character and also taking
05:56advantage of all the possibility that the book proposes in terms of worlds and all of that.
06:02So, you know, together, Blake and I sort of had this moment where it was like, what are
06:07we doing?
06:08We, you know, we should be doing this as a television show.
06:11And, you know, and rather than going like this, we can actually expand.
06:17So it was something that we jumped into together and sort of, you know, and it very quickly,
06:25the material just grew to fit that, you know, those nine hours.
06:29You know, we were never like scratching our heads for, you know, what do we have?
06:33No, we don't have enough material.
06:34It was the book just gives you so much to play with.
06:39Neurotech Company.
06:40So?
06:42No.
06:43I want you to be part of it, Jack.
06:47I want you to join us.
06:49Hey, if you're pinching yourself every morning on your way to Lakemont, then please tell me
06:53I will.
06:55No, no, I'm not telling you.
06:58Because whatever Lakemont's being, we will crush that.
07:00We'll smash it.
07:01Yeah, well, that's not hard.
07:02Thinking about this story, the aspect of path, whether path is choice or consequence.
07:08I mean, this is true, you know, William in Westworld, you know, Hemlock even in Bad Batch.
07:14But with Ryan, can you talk about path as far as the journey either of consequence or choice with him?
07:20Well, that's a good question.
07:22No one's really posed it that way.
07:25I mean, what this show is articulating to me is like the what if, it's the options, it's the choices.
07:34And so we're talking about the choices we make that determines our path.
07:39What was your other option, path or consequence?
07:43Path or consequence.
07:44And so if we're making choices, we have consequences from those choices, and that creates our path.
07:53Path or consequence.
07:59Oh, my God.
08:11Yes.
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