00:00Mga panibagong agresibong aksyon ng China sa Bajo de Masinlok,
00:04ating pag-uusapan kasama si Undersecretary Alexander Lopez,
00:09ang tagapagsalita ng National Maritime Council.
00:12Yusek Lopez, magandang tanghali po.
00:16Magandang tanghali, Asik Joey at BIR Commissioner Jun Lumagi Jr.
00:24Pagpasensya nyo na ako, actually gusto ko sanang maging live on-site.
00:30But meron lang akong napaka-especiallyal meeting.
00:32That's why hindi ako aabot kung babiyahe pa ako dyan sa inyong studio.
00:36But nonetheless, magandang hapon sa inyo at sa ating mga tagapakinig at mga nanonood ngayong hapon.
00:43No problem, sir.
00:44Sir, ano po ang masasabi ng NMC sa panibagong agresibo at dangerous maneuver
00:50ng People's Liberation Army, Navy at Chinese Coast Guard vessels
00:54sa humanitarian mission ng ating pamahalaan para sa mga Pilipinong manging isda sa Bajo de Masinlok
01:01na nagresulta pa sa banggaan ng dalawa sa kanilang barko?
01:05Thank you, Asik Joey and Mr. Jun.
01:13Unang-una, gusto ko lang sanang iulitin at ipaalam sa ating mga kababayan
01:20na yung Bajo de Masinlok ay talaga sariling atin
01:26at basis sa international law, sa UN Convention of the Law of the Sea
01:32at sa 26th Arbitur Ruling,
01:35ang Bajo de Masinlok ay within the 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone
01:42at ito ay more than 500 nautical miles sa pinakmalapit na teritoryo ng China.
01:49So dahil dito, ayun na rin doon sa Arbitur Ruling,
01:54ito ay traditional fishing ground.
01:56Kaya sabihin natin sa mga ating mga yung isda,
01:58punta kayo doon, atin ito, at you have to enjoy your fishing rides.
02:04Pero alam naman natin na ito ay inaangkin din ng China
02:09at ito ay naglagay ng mga maraming barko nila
02:13ng PLA Navy, kanilang Coast Guard at Maritime Militia.
02:18So yun nangyari ng 11 August,
02:21ito ay actually nakakabahala, no?
02:24Dahil mas naging agresibo ang barko ng China,
02:30especially yung kanilang Navy, Navy Asset,
02:35na nakikita natin sa video ngayon, yung 164,
02:38na halos mabangga o banggain,
02:43o gustong banggain ang ating Coast Guard Vessel.
02:46But nonetheless, with the grace of God siguro,
02:50napakaswerte pa rin natin na hindi tinamaan ang ating Coast Guard Vessel.
02:54At ito pa rin ay nakapagpatuloy sa kanilang mission na magbigay ayuda
02:59ng kanilang pagdibigay ng fuel,
03:04pagkain at tubig,
03:05doon sa ating mga mangingis ng Pilipino
03:08na nangingisda doon sa malapit sa baho di Masinlo.
03:13Nandila sabi ko nga,
03:14ito ay nakakabahala.
03:16Dahil mismo ang PLA Navy,
03:19na pagkalaki-laki,
03:20ay halos siguro,
03:23tatwohin mo na yung laki ng Coast Guard Vessel natin,
03:26ay nakikita natin na gusto talagang banggain yung ating Coast Guard Vessel.
03:32Yusek, ano po ang implikasyon o epekto
03:34ng ginawa na ito ng China para sa mga tauhan ng PCG
03:38at sa ating mga mangingisda?
03:42Alam nyo, itong meeting ko namin ngayong umaga,
03:45na meet namin yung gumaneng officer ng Coast Guard Vessel
03:51at ang kanilang mga tauhan.
03:55Kahit namin nangyari sa kanila yun noong August 11,
03:58nananatili silang mataas ang moral
04:00dahil, again, sabi ko kanina,
04:03pinala pa rin sila na hindi sila tinamaan.
04:05At pagdating naman sa ating mga mangingisda,
04:08dahil hindi naman sila involved dito sa maneuvering,
04:12masaya pa rin sila dahil na ihetid ng gobyerno.
04:15Ang ating tulong sa kanila,
04:17natuloy yung mission na pagbibigay niyang pagkain,
04:21ng petrolyo at tubig doon sa mga mangingisda
04:23para humaba-haba naman ang kanilang pangingisda
04:27doon sa katubigan ng baho di masinlok.
04:31Hindi pa rin sila na tinag, no?
04:33Alam nyo man,
04:34sa Coast Guard naman,
04:38even sa Navy,
04:40whatever yung risk,
04:42kasama dyan sa trabaho natin.
04:43So hindi sila napanghinaya ng kanilang kalooban.
04:49But magkus pa,
04:50actually,
04:51nagbibigay sa kanila ng tinding tapang na,
04:56kaya namin yan,
04:57babalikan namin yan,
04:58for the service of the country
05:00and our Filipino people.
05:02Yusek,
05:03sabi ng Coast Guard,
05:05base daw dun sa galaw ng Chinese vessels,
05:08tila posibleng indikasyon nito
05:11ng systematic search method.
05:14So ano po kaya yung pakay
05:16ng mga Chinese vessel na ito?
05:18Yung systematic search method na nakita natin,
05:24actually,
05:25ito yung ginagawa ng Chino doon.
05:27Kasi nung pagkatapos nilang magkabanggaan,
05:30no?
05:30Unfortunately,
05:31sila dalaway nagkabanggaan,
05:33ay may tumilapon.
05:34Sa tingin natin,
05:35as account na rin ng ating
05:37mga Coast Guard personnel,
05:41yung mga taong nasa forward
05:43ng Coast Guard vessel,
05:44nung nabangga sila
05:45ng kanilang Chinese Navy vessel,
05:48ay tumilapon yung mga taong yun eh.
05:50Hindi nalala nakita.
05:52So yung sinasabi ng search pattern na yun,
05:54basically,
05:55ito yung kinatawag natin sa Navy na
05:57search and rescue pattern,
06:01actually,
06:02para hanapin
06:03yung mga tumilapon sa dagat
06:05ng mga Chinese Coast Guard personnel.
06:09Yes,
06:09iniulat din po ng Philippine Navy
06:11ang namomonitor na pagtaas
06:14sa dami ng research vessels
06:16at CCG ships
06:17sa Northern Luzon.
06:19Ano po ang masasabi ninyo dito?
06:22Tama yun,
06:23Commissioner Jun.
06:26Actually,
06:28namonitor na natin
06:29na dumadami yung research vessels.
06:33Actually,
06:34ginagamit nila itong mga research vessels
06:37for intelligence gathering.
06:40And in fact,
06:40in one of the occasions
06:41sa Norte,
06:42nasabi nila
06:44na yung...
06:45Kasi meron tayong tinatawag
06:46na mga
06:46underwater cables,
06:49doon sa Norte,
06:50sa bandang Taiwan,
06:51actually,
06:52pinuputol nila.
06:53Siguro,
06:54pagdating dito sa atin,
06:55hinahanap nila
06:55kung nasan yung mga
06:56underwater cables na yun.
06:59Again,
07:00for intelligence purposes,
07:02either for scientific
07:03or whatever
07:04hostile intent.
07:05So,
07:06yun ang gusto ninyo siguro
07:06makita
07:07kung nasan yung mga yun.
07:09Well,
07:09aside from that,
07:10gusto nila nilang
07:11iparating
07:12na
07:13yung
07:14kanilang
07:15capabilidad
07:16ay
07:17kayang paabotin
07:18dito sa ating karagatan.
07:19Yusek,
07:22sabi ng China
07:22na yung pagkilos
07:23daw ng
07:24Pilipinas
07:25ay paglabag
07:26daw sa
07:27soberanya
07:27at karapatan
07:28ng China
07:29sa karagatan.
07:30So,
07:30ano pong masasabi
07:31ng NMC
07:32dito?
07:34Alam nyo,
07:36wala namang
07:37naniniwala
07:38doon sa
07:38mga
07:39naratibo
07:39ng China.
07:41In fact,
07:41yung kanilang
07:42naratibo
07:43ay directed
07:44sa kanilang
07:44mga
07:45mamamayan
07:46sa
07:46loob ng China
07:47para
07:47sabihin nila
07:48na sila ang tama.
07:49Pero,
07:50kung tatanawin
07:52natin
07:52ng international
07:52community,
07:53nobody
07:54believes
07:54them.
07:55In fact,
07:56yung international
07:56community,
07:57especially
07:58yung ating
07:58mga
07:58like-minded
07:59partners
08:00and nations,
08:01they are
08:01supportive
08:01to what
08:02the Philippines
08:02is doing.
08:04Kaya,
08:04yung mga
08:05naratibo
08:05na lang yun,
08:06rehash na yan
08:07at narinig
08:08na natin
08:08doon pa yan.
08:10Sinasabi nila
08:10kanila.
08:11Pero,
08:11again,
08:12ang pinangahawakan
08:13natin dito
08:14ay international
08:15law,
08:15the UNCLOS
08:16at ang
08:162016
08:17Arbitur
08:18ruling.
08:19So,
08:19whatever
08:20they say
08:20actually
08:21is all
08:22lies,
08:23misinformation
08:23and
08:24disinformation.
08:26You said,
08:26gaano naman po
08:27kahanda
08:27ang Pilipinas
08:29sakaling magbago
08:30ng tactics
08:30ang China
08:31matapos
08:32ang insidente?
08:32Well,
08:35even before
08:37Commissioner
08:38June,
08:39meron tayong
08:40kahandaan
08:41actually.
08:42Meron tayong
08:42contingency plans
08:43na for some
08:44reasons
08:44I cannot
08:45divulge
08:46them
08:46kasi
08:46operational
08:47nature.
08:48Pero,
08:48again,
08:49ang preparation
08:50ng ating
08:50gobyerno,
08:51especially
08:51yung
08:52ating
08:53armed forces
08:54and the
08:55Philippine
08:55Coast Guard,
08:56they are
08:57preparing for
08:57the worst.
08:58So,
08:58meron tayong
08:59contingency plan
09:00dyan.
09:01And,
09:01if ever
09:01magbago silang
09:04taktika,
09:04actually,
09:06meron tayong
09:08tawag dun,
09:09na napa-plan
09:10out na natin
09:10yan,
09:11na-predict
09:12na natin
09:12yan.
09:12So,
09:12kung meron man
09:13mangyari dun,
09:14prepared tayo
09:15to address
09:17such things.
09:18Sabi nga kanina,
09:19hindi ko lang pwede
09:19masabi kung ano yun
09:20kasi for
09:21operational purposes.
09:23Yusek,
09:23pagkatapos
09:24nung insidente
09:24sa dagat,
09:25meron na namang
09:26o isa na namang
09:27dangerous maneuver
09:28ang isinagawa
09:29ng Chinese fighter jet
09:31sa isang
09:31PCG aircraft
09:33na nagsasagawa
09:34ng Maritime Domain
09:35Awareness Flight
09:36doon din sa
09:37Bajo de Masinlok.
09:38So,
09:38ano po ang
09:39reaksyon
09:39ng NMC
09:40dito?
09:40Well,
09:43hindi naman ito
09:44una,
09:45actually.
09:47Nangyari na ito
09:48for a couple
09:49of times
09:50already.
09:51In fact,
09:52yung last year,
09:53sometime August
09:53of last year,
09:55meron ding
09:56fighter,
09:58a military
09:59aircraft
10:00na
10:00nagpulipad
10:02yung ating
10:02Philippine
10:03Air Force
10:03flight
10:04doing
10:05maneuver
10:06maritime
10:07domain
10:07awareness
10:07flight.
10:08Nagpaputok din
10:09sila ng
10:09players
10:10na yung
10:11kinatawag
10:12nilang
10:12player.
10:13At ito
10:13ay hindi
10:14ayon sa
10:15safety
10:15regulations
10:16pagdating sa
10:17hintapawid
10:18na paglalakbay.
10:20So,
10:20naulit ito
10:21sometime
10:23this year
10:23also.
10:24Ito naman
10:24ay gumamit
10:25sila ng
10:26helicopter
10:26kung naalala
10:27natin
10:28na dumikit
10:29ito
10:29na halos
10:30around
10:3110 feet
10:31doon sa
10:33BFAR
10:34flight
10:34naman.
10:35BFAR
10:35flight.
10:35And this
10:36time
10:36Coast Guard
10:38flight
10:38naman
10:38ito
10:38nagpakita
10:39sila
10:40yung
10:40Type
10:41J-15
10:41aircraft
10:42na yun.
10:43So,
10:44yung mga
10:44ganitong
10:45pagbagay
10:46mga
10:46activities
10:47nila
10:47actually
10:47we are
10:49categorizing
10:50these
10:50activities
10:51na
10:52intimidation
10:53and
10:53provocation.
10:54So,
10:55ang tanong
10:55meron sinasabi
10:57sila palagi
10:57tayo
10:58doon
10:58nagpo-provoke.
10:59Sa ginagawa
10:59nila
10:59ngayon,
11:00sino ba
11:00talaga
11:00nagpo-provoke?
11:01Klarong-klaro
11:02sila.
11:03So,
11:04they're trying
11:04to intimidate
11:05us,
11:05they're trying
11:06to scare
11:06us,
11:07bully us
11:08para hindi
11:09natin
11:09gawin
11:09yung
11:09dapat
11:10natin
11:10gawin.
11:11Hindi
11:12naman
11:12tayo
11:12magpapa-
11:13hindi
11:13naman
11:14tayo
11:14magpapa-
11:16magba-back
11:16out.
11:17Meron tayong
11:18mandato,
11:19may mandato
11:19ang ating
11:20Air Force,
11:20Coast Guard
11:21and BFAR
11:22to do
11:22their
11:23maritime
11:23domain
11:24patrol
11:25missions.
11:27Yusek,
11:27gaano
11:28naman po
11:28kahalaga
11:28ang pagsasagawa
11:29ng maritime
11:30exercises
11:31ng Pilipinas
11:32katuwang
11:32ang iba't
11:33ibang bansa?
11:37Magandang
11:37tanong yan
11:38kasi palagi
11:39sinasabi
11:39bakit
11:39na tayo
11:40may mga
11:40exercises.
11:41Unang-una,
11:43ito ay
11:44nagpapahihwating
11:45na
11:45yung ating
11:47tinatawag
11:47ng
11:48multilateralism
11:49ay
11:49nagle-leverage
11:51tayo doon.
11:52Dumadami
11:53yung ating
11:53mga
11:54allied
11:55partners
11:55hindi
11:56lang
11:56sa
11:56US
11:56hindi
11:57lang
11:57Japan
11:57meron
11:58na
11:58rin
11:58India
11:59very
12:00recently
12:01India
12:01meron
12:02din sa
12:02Canada
12:02South
12:03Korea
12:03and other
12:05European
12:06countries.
12:06In fact,
12:07just last
12:08week
12:08nakita
12:08natin
12:09may
12:09mga
12:09bumisita
12:10dito
12:10na
12:10Spanish
12:11naval
12:13vessels.
12:14So,
12:15it is
12:15saying
12:16na
12:16ang
12:17Pilipinas
12:17ay hindi
12:17nag-isa
12:18unlike
12:19ang
12:20China
12:21na
12:21apparently
12:22it's
12:22being
12:23isolated
12:23kasi
12:24yung mga
12:25ganitong
12:26exercises
12:26ay nagpapatibay
12:27na
12:28ang
12:30Pilipinas
12:31ay hindi
12:31nag-isa.
12:32So,
12:32in terms
12:32of
12:33deterrence,
12:34ito na rin
12:34siguro
12:34ang
12:35mensahe
12:36na
12:36gusto
12:36ipahihwating
12:38itong
12:38maritime
12:40cooperative
12:41activities
12:43among
12:43naval
12:44vessels.
12:45So,
12:45it is
12:46short of
12:47saying
12:47that
12:47we are
12:48gaining,
12:49we are
12:49winning
12:50in terms
12:51of
12:51coming up
12:53with
12:53more
12:54art.
13:05Ayan,
13:06tila na wala
13:06ang ating
13:07koneksyon
13:07na kasama
13:08si
13:08Yusek
13:09Lopez
13:10ng
13:10National
13:10Maritime
13:11Council,
13:11pero
13:11go to
13:12go to
13:12go to
13:12go to
13:13go to
13:13go to
