00:00Okay, so Gerald, let me turn to you. You've written a letter in the Daily Telegraph. It was published yesterday. You say President Trump cannot be allowed to betray Ukraine in his desperation for a deal. In your opinion, Sir Gerald, should Ukraine give up anything at all?
00:14Good afternoon, Tom. Not a square inch, no. And I'm surprised to hear Greg talking of that kind of compromise. It was his president, President Bill Clinton, who alongside Prime Minister John Major of the United Kingdom in 1995 signed the Budapest Memorandum under which Ukraine gave up its entire arsenal of nuclear weapons in return for which the parties there too, Russia under Boris Yeltsin.
00:44United States under Bill Clinton and the United Kingdom under John Major, nobody else. But those three agreed to respect the sovereignty, independence and existing borders of Ukraine.
00:57Of course, Russia's complete breach of that agreement, which the former leader of Russia signed. And now it appears that the President of the United States is going to flamely breach that agreement. I think it is very, very dangerous indeed.
01:14It sets a very dangerous precedent. And of course, ultimately, if land is to be ceded to Russia, who thinks that Putin will stop there?
01:26He wants to seize the whole of Ukraine, does not believe that Ukraine is a sovereign nation. He believes that it should be part of Russia. We are entering a very, very dangerous period.
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