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During a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing prior to the congressional recess, lawmakers debated a bill that would facilitate arms deals for Arab states that have normalized relations with Israel.
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00:04Pursuant to notice, I now call up H.R. 4335, the Abraham Accords Defense Against Terror Act.
00:12This bill was circulated in advance, and the clerk shall designate the bill.
00:19H.R. 4335, to provide authority to enhance security assistance with countries that are engaged in regional security cooperation efforts
00:28in the Middle East and North Africa, and for other purposes.
00:30Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with, and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point.
00:37Also, without objection, the Lawler Amendment, in the natures of a substitute, circulated to members in advance,
00:42shall be considered as read and will be treated as original text for the purpose of the amendment.
00:50I now recognize myself in support of this legislation.
00:58I want to thank my friend and my colleague, the MENA Subcommittee Chair, Representative Lawler,
01:04for sponsoring this piece of legislation.
01:07The Foreign Military Sales Program, which we've spoken about quite a bit today,
01:11is a key component for our national security.
01:14FMS strengthens our alliances, enhances interoperability with partner forces,
01:20promotes regional stability by ensuring that foreign governments are equipped
01:24with high-quality, reliable U.S. defense systems.
01:28Yet the process underpinning foreign military sales is complex, lengthy, and opaque,
01:33leading many of our traditional defense partners to question U.S. reliability
01:37and commitment to our long-term partners.
01:40There is a clear recognition that it's simply not enough for our equipment to be the best.
01:45Those procuring U.S. origin weapons must also have the confidence
01:49that our equipment will be delivered on time in a transparent manner.
01:55Streamlining the FMS process is critical if the U.S. is to remain the partner of choice,
02:00particularly in the Middle East and North Africa,
02:03which represents the lion's share of FMS cases globally,
02:06yet also subject to some of the most egregious delays.
02:10This inherent unpredictability has increasingly driven our traditional partners
02:14to consider alternative defense suppliers,
02:17threatening the competitiveness of the U.S. defense industry
02:20as well as its interoperability.
02:24These sales are critical to ensure our partners and allies
02:27have the tools that they need to continue working with the U.S.
02:31to advance our shared objectives.
02:33These issues are something this committee will work hard to address,
02:38a goal that I know is shared by this administration.
02:41This is why this bill is essential by ensuring FMS sales to partners and allies in the region
02:46who have taken steps to advance critical U.S. national interests,
02:50notably with respect to Iran and Israel,
02:53receive priority when it comes to congressional review.
02:56These sales not only build partner capacity,
03:00but also help strengthen interoperability, as I've said already.
03:03This helps ensure key partners in the region are equipped to work
03:07and work in a hand-in-club manner with us
03:11to collectively respond to evolving security challenges
03:14and ultimately strengthens our collective deterrence
03:17and, therefore, overall regional stability
03:20and the strength of the United States of America.
03:23Do any of any other members seek recognition?
03:26Ranking Member Meeks.
03:27Thank you, Mr. Chair.
03:30Let me be clear that I'm a strong supporter of the Abraham Accords
03:36and the efforts by Arab states to normalize diplomatic relationships with Israel.
03:42It is something that I have seen over my lifetime in Congress.
03:49For the first time, countries agreeing to the Jewish state of Israel.
03:56It is the beginning of trying to get to a real peace in the Middle East.
04:02It is just the beginning.
04:05We have a long way to go.
04:07But I'm a supporter, and I thank the many Arab countries
04:12who have agreed to normalize diplomatic relations with Israel.
04:19And I look forward to others joining to do just that.
04:23It's the only way to work towards broader regional peace and stability.
04:29And it's important, though, that countries do so
04:32based on merit and genuine openness.
04:38We shouldn't be having a set of quid pro quo arrangements or enticements.
04:45It should be done on the merits.
04:49As we see countries agreeing and moving forward,
04:54we cannot ever forget human rights.
05:00It is, you know, in Mr. Lawless Bill,
05:05it would mandate expedited processing of all U.S. arms sales
05:13to the Abraham Accord countries,
05:15as well as we shrink the statutory required congressional review time
05:20of any such sale from 30 to 15 days.
05:25Why do I disagree with this?
05:27It's because this would put such a review period
05:30on par with our historic U.S. treaty allies,
05:37like NATO member countries,
05:39like South Korea and Japan.
05:43And while I support the broadening of the Abraham Accords,
05:48I don't believe it is appropriate to equate
05:50longstanding allies like the U.K.,
05:54like France or Canada,
05:58all countries with which the United States
06:00has detailed comprehensive defensive agreements,
06:04to countries who have thus far
06:07had inconsistent and checkered records
06:10regarding the U.S. weapons,
06:13the use of U.S. weapons in conflicts
06:14and protections of sensitive defensive technologies.
06:20An example of that would be
06:22the misuse and diversion of U.S. weapons in Yemen.
06:27The UAE, unfortunately, continues to provide armed support
06:32to the RSF militia in Sudan.
06:35And this has been extensively documented.
06:41I've paid particular attention to what's taking place
06:46and talking to our humanitarian groups
06:49and talking to individuals
06:51about what's happening on the ground there.
06:53It concerns me.
06:56I appreciate the UAE becoming an Abraham Accord country
07:04and working with Israel in that regard.
07:07But if we provide expedited timeline
07:14to our closest allies,
07:16or we do provide an expedited timeline
07:19to our closest allies
07:20because of the presumption of approval,
07:24I can't say that we have a presumption of approval
07:26in this case
07:27with the countries
07:29who are part of the Abraham Accords.
07:32This bill also comes at the time
07:34that the Trump administration has made corrupt
07:38pay-to-play deals with the Gulf governments,
07:42a central part of U.S. policy.
07:44Congress still has yet to receive
07:46any substantive details
07:48from the administration
07:50regarding the arms, crypto, and AI deals
07:54the White House announced
07:55during President Trump's May Gulf trip.
07:58This reflects the administration's unfortunate pattern
08:01of discounting the legislative branch
08:04and flouting transparency and oversight.
08:08And for these reasons,
08:09I cannot support this bill at this time,
08:13and I yield back the balance of my time.
08:16The ranking member yields back.
08:17Do any other members seek recognition?
08:19Representative Lawler is recognized.
08:21Thank you, Mr. Chairman,
08:22and thank you for bringing this bill forward
08:25for markup today.
08:27The Abraham Accords
08:28were the single greatest development
08:30towards peace in the Middle East
08:31in recent decades.
08:32For over 75 years,
08:34Israel has been our staunchest ally
08:36and a pivotal partner in the region.
08:39Israel is a beacon of freedom,
08:41democracy, and prosperity,
08:43a true innovation nation
08:45with a successful and vibrant society
08:47despite the geopolitical conditions
08:50they have faced.
08:51President Trump recognized this
08:53during his first administration,
08:55and he worked diligently
08:56with some of our partners
08:57in the Arab world
08:58to showcase this.
08:59He showed them
09:00the economic benefits
09:02to normalizing with Israel
09:04and that the real inhibitor
09:06to a prosperous Middle East
09:08is not Israel,
09:09but Iran.
09:11So, at its origins
09:12in September 2020,
09:14the Abraham Accords
09:15included the UAE
09:17and Bahrain.
09:19Morocco joined
09:20the following December.
09:22During President Biden's term,
09:23he made no forward progress
09:25with other nations
09:26to normalize with Israel.
09:29Luckily,
09:29President Trump
09:30has again been prioritizing
09:32this agreement
09:33since he has been back
09:35in the White House.
09:37The Abraham Accords
09:38Defense Against Terror Act
09:40will make the President's job
09:41just a little easier
09:42by further incentivizing countries
09:45to normalize with Israel.
09:47This legislation
09:48will enhance arm sales processes
09:50for Abraham Accords countries
09:52that also cooperate
09:54with the U.S.
09:55on anti-Iran efforts
09:56or Iran-proxy
09:58counterterrorism efforts.
09:59Specifically,
10:00it narrows the timeline
10:01for congressional consideration
10:03after arm sales
10:04are accepted.
10:06This is the same
10:07preferential treatment
10:08that our NATO allies receive.
10:10In addition to the tangible benefits
10:12of this shorter time period,
10:14there is also great symbolism.
10:16We are showing
10:16our Middle East partners
10:17that we're serious
10:18about deepening security ties.
10:21This was something
10:22I emphasized
10:23when I traveled
10:24to the region
10:24this past May
10:25and something I know
10:26the President has focused on
10:28during his trip there as well.
10:30The United States
10:31sees the UAE, Bahrain,
10:32and Morocco
10:33as key partners
10:34and we are dedicated
10:35to maintaining
10:36these relationships
10:37and expanding them further.
10:39A similar sentiment
10:40is shared for Saudi Arabia
10:42and our other partners
10:43in the region.
10:44We are hopeful
10:45that Saudi Arabia
10:46and others in the future
10:47know this as well.
10:49As a leader
10:49in the Arab world,
10:50Saudi Arabia
10:51joining the Abraham Accords
10:52would make massive inroads
10:54for Israel's relationships
10:55not only in the Middle East
10:57but across the globe.
10:59So I want to thank
10:59Chairman Mass
11:00for understanding
11:01the benefits
11:02of strengthening ties
11:03in the Middle East
11:03and for bringing
11:04this critical legislation
11:06before the House
11:06Foreign Affairs Committee.
11:08And I encourage
11:08all of my fellow
11:09committee members
11:10to support
11:11this bipartisan bill
11:12and I yield
11:13the remainder of my time.
11:14Representative Yields.
11:16Representative Jacobs
11:17is recognized.
11:17Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:20I am opposing this bill.
11:23Overseeing arms transfer decisions
11:24is one of the most
11:26important oversight duties
11:27of this committee
11:27and I cannot support a bill
11:29that weakens
11:30our oversight responsibilities.
11:32This bill would cut
11:33in half the time
11:34for Congress
11:34to review sales
11:35to Abraham Accord countries
11:36which includes Egypt
11:38and the United Arab Emirates.
11:40In Egypt,
11:41Congress maintains
11:41longstanding concerns
11:43with its poor
11:43human rights record
11:44and growing ties
11:45to Russia and China.
11:47In the UAE,
11:48I and other members
11:49of this committee
11:49have expressed
11:50deep concerns
11:51that Abu Dhabi's
11:52continued material support
11:54to the rapid support forces
11:55in Sudan
11:55which is committing
11:57a horrific genocide
11:58in Darfur.
11:59We should not grant
12:00these countries
12:00privileged access
12:01to U.S. arms
12:02given these considerations.
12:04Besides,
12:05this bill won't even
12:06solve the problems
12:06my colleagues
12:07are trying to solve.
12:08We all know
12:09that the arms transfer process
12:11is often a years-long process
12:12whose lengthiest aspects
12:14are the DOD contracting timeline
12:15and the production timeline.
12:18Shaving 15 days
12:19off of the congressional
12:20notification clock
12:22will do little
12:23to incentivize countries
12:24to normalize relations
12:25with Israel
12:26but it will have the time
12:28available to members
12:29of Congress
12:30to assess some
12:31highly sensitive sales
12:32to countries
12:32that require heightened
12:33not weakened oversight.
12:35So for that reason,
12:36I oppose this bill.
12:37I urge my colleagues
12:38to do so as well
12:38and Mr. Chairman,
12:39I yield back.
12:40I yield back.
12:41Representative Self
12:42is recognized.
12:43Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
12:44I applaud Mr. Lawler's
12:46work on this.
12:47The Abraham Accords
12:48are vitally important
12:50to the Middle East.
12:52I will just make
12:53two points
12:54along the lines
12:56of Mr. Meeks.
12:57If everything
12:58is most important,
13:01nothing is.
13:02If everything
13:03is number one,
13:04nothing is.
13:05So we need
13:06to be careful
13:07because our industrial base
13:08is having trouble
13:09keeping up right now
13:11with our commitments
13:12for weapons
13:12across the world
13:13as is the European
13:15industrial base.
13:18And secondly,
13:19I want to make
13:19very clear
13:21that I support
13:22the qualitative edge
13:23of Israel's weapons
13:26from the U.S.
13:28over anyone else
13:29in the region.
13:31So we need
13:31to be really careful
13:32about the qualitative edge
13:34of the Israeli weapon systems
13:37that we are getting
13:37to them.
13:38With that,
13:38that you're back.
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