00:00what did you get out of uh friday's game what did you see i guess we can should we do positives
00:08and negatives what what were the positives that you saw out of that game uh so the positives was
00:14was a lot of the young players travion henderson taking back the kickoff and then he had a couple
00:18nice runs as well uh looks as explosive as you would expect kyle williams i know this is going
00:23to sound weird kyle williams had the best game i've ever seen a wide receiver have who didn't
00:28catch a pass um he was constantly getting open and and josh jobs was either just missing him or not
00:33throwing him the ball but i thought he had a really good game uh some of their their defensive players
00:37craig woodson who kind of had a quieter camp after a strong spring i think showed a lot of the things
00:43we saw in the spring you got excited about constantly around the football um the udfa elijah
00:49ponder the pass rusher i thought uh showed up a couple times and then will campbell we can get
00:53to the negatives he did have one play that you know kind of opens your eyes in that regard but
00:57in the run game i he he's he's mean he's nasty he's physical and you can see how he can be a game
01:04changer in that facet of the game yeah young linemen they usually get the run game first right
01:10it's it's the it's takes more of kind of like refinement and technique in pass protection if
01:16i'm not mistaken yeah especially when you look at the way that him and jared wilson another rookie
01:21who's next to him and it's rare you have two rookies playing next to each other on the left side of the
01:25line you look at the play on which they got beat that wasn't he got overpowered that wasn't short
01:30arms that wasn't anything like that it was a twist and him and wilson have only been playing together
01:35for like three weeks and they got to communicate and figure out how they're going to pick that up
01:39instead campbell gets caught up in the middle wilson can't get around to block the outside guy
01:44and it puts a free rusher on drake may who probably should have taken the sack there but that's a
01:49coaching moment and mike brayble even said after the game that was something they were working on
01:53in practice picking up and they were picking up in practice it just has to translate so
01:57that was a moment i think where you just see two young linemen encountering something that they've
02:02encountered a lot before and they're going to have to figure out how they want to handle that
02:06you know watching will campbell closely but you know for the time that he was in there
02:10and i i forgot to ask anybody of substance uh before this morning i asked zo and he hasn't gotten
02:17back to me um but i thought i saw will campbell jump early about five times i thought i it looked
02:24they look like false starts where he was taking a step back like either he is like got the most elite
02:32timing of anyone on that line or that's something that it could present itself as a problem did you see
02:40any of that alex i did so that's a lot of linemen do this in the league now because they know the snap
02:46count right so they now try to jump the snap count the same way a defensive lineman does uh
02:52morgan moses i actually didn't notice if he was doing it or he didn't play uh friday night like in
02:57practice morgan moses does that a ton a lot of veteran linemen do it trent williams does it a lot
03:02trent brown used to do it a lot here chooks a core four tried to do it last year in a preseason game
03:08got called for three false starts in a row so you know there there's a skill that comes with it and
03:13sometimes if you're getting too close officials will call it some people would say one false start
03:19if you're getting that extra quarter second over an entire game is worth the trade-off and there's
03:25some debate on that but it would not surprise me especially considering how close campbell has been
03:30with morgan moses if that's something he's working on and maybe trying to get that right at the snap and
03:36jump the snap in order to get that extra quarter second because it's something you see linemen
03:40around the league do but i did notice that hardy and he was very close with it a few times that might
03:46draw a flag at some point if he'd been in the game longer maybe that would have been the case but i
03:50don't think that's him not knowing the snap count i think that's him trying to do something that we see
03:55a lot of tackles in the league do i wanted to get back alex to what you were talking about the rookie
04:00starting obviously the left side of the offensive line those two guys are pretty much
04:04cement cemented in there unless they get hurt but it was telling to me that travion henderson
04:10left the game as soon as the ones left the game on offense you mentioned kyle williams i saw all the
04:16all the film on replay of him getting open and josh dobbs not getting him the football but in the
04:20secondary all of a sudden there's momentum for woodson to start and dugger running with the twos at
04:25practice yesterday we talked with mike giardi about the possibility of trading him dugger that is and that
04:32looks like more and more possibility it's going to be hard to get somebody to take on the contract
04:37that's kind of my big hold up there but it looks like he's getting passed on the depth chart and
04:42whatever that ends up being it ends up being whether he's just here and he's an expensive backup if they
04:47can find a trade partner if they decide to eat the money and cut him last year was not a good year for
04:52him and he was hurt he was playing through an injury all year and that clearly impacted him
04:56but he still at times hasn't looked like he's all the way back and he missed the whole spring
05:01while he was still rehabbing from that injury so i don't know what it is uh but it might be something
05:06that's still impacting him if this is something that's going to be nagging that's going to be
05:09chronic that he's just never going to fully come back from it it's going to be tough because it impacts
05:15his ability to move and what made him uh you know a good player before he got hurt was his ability to
05:20recognize the play and quickly get to the spot and you lose half a step on that and it changes his game
05:25let but again get let's talk about henderson a little bit and now remandre didn't practice
05:31yesterday it just looks more and more like henderson might be your starting running back for this team
05:36he might i think with josh mcdaniels has always been very uh aware of like how much usage his running
05:45backs are getting and not overusing guys this is something i've talked about the last few years
05:49they've run remandre stevenson in the ground he you know he's top 10 in touches until late in the
05:54year when he gets hurt and you can see it like his play diminishes so they're not going to want to do
05:59that this thing with henderson he took off last year at ohio state because they went out and got
06:05quinch on judkins another really good running back in the portal and his touches decreased but his
06:10overall production increased and that was kind of the knock on him the first three years was
06:14durability and his ability to handle a heavy workload so i don't think you're going to see
06:18like a real bell cow back here i don't think you're going to see a guy play 55 60 percent of the
06:23snaps at that position my guess is high 40s is where henderson will be and uh remandre stevenson
06:30will probably be high 30s low 40s with antonio gibson mixing in as well um it's more about
06:36situations like the starting running backs are relevant remandre stevenson can come out on first
06:41and 10 who's in on third downs who's in on the two minute trail i think that's going to be
06:46trevion henderson he's going to be more maximum impact even if it's not volume uh i think is at
06:53least for this year i think is what's ahead of him all right alex we were talking about drake may
06:58and look if you go out on the street you said how he asked people how was caleb williams last year
07:05everyone's going to go well he sucked and then you look at his numbers and you're like well he didn't
07:08suck like you know he put up pretty decent numbers he had a bad offensive line if you ask people
07:14how about drake may they'd be like he's fantastic he was great drake may now is going to be looked
07:20under like a similar lens of caleb williams in that you know he's going to be expected to win
07:26um how confident are you on him in his second year and you know he didn't play a ton last year
07:32how confident are you that he can make that leap to not only being you know physically gifted and
07:40being able to do all those things but not make mistakes i i mean i feel a lot better than i did
07:46at the beginning of camp because i think he's picked up the offense i don't think that's going to be
07:49the hurdle some people had it for him uh he looks comfortable in that offense he looks in control
07:55but he does need to cut down on the turnovers like that play on friday night right you just got to
07:59take the sack there you're not getting that ball out it's not ideal but that that's the big thing
08:03that's the big unknown i don't think he's ever going to be a guy like you know brady or rogers
08:08in his prime that's throwing four interceptions in a season that's just not his game he's going
08:12to have more turnovers than the average quarterback i i said this on zolak and bertrand last week
08:19i think a good number for him turnovers not interceptions turnovers so including fumbles
08:23can he be under a turnover again i think even if he starts 17 games right he has 15 turnovers
08:29some people might look at that as high i think it is high relative to the average quarterback for him if
08:35the rest of the production's there right he's up close to 30 touchdowns throwing and rushing
08:40you take 15 turnovers so it's never you win 10 games when your quarterback turns it over that many
08:48times with this defense i think they can and this schedule it's part of it too it's a week schedule
08:54but like i think they can like a turnover a game this deep this defense should be forcing a turnover
08:58game right so if you're netting that out zero you should be in good shape now if it's you know
09:04he's getting closer to 20 turnovers then it's going to be a lot harder okay all right well
09:10listen alex uh i talked to you more but i have more jordan hudson news and i can't be like i can't
09:16leave that on hold you got to give the people what they want i get it thank you alex and the people
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