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101 East meets the conservationists in Indonesia bringing leopard sharks back from the brink of extinction.
Leopard sharks were once abundant in the waters of Indonesia’s Raja Ampat archipelago.

However, commercial fishing and the lucrative shark trade have nearly wiped out the population, leaving only 20 adults in these pristine waters. Now, marine biologists are leading a unique project to rewild leopard sharks. Pup sharks are carefully raised in captivity, taught how to hunt and closely monitored before being released into their native waters.

101 East meets the conservationists in Raja Ampat determined to bring leopard sharks back from the brink of extinction.

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00:00In Indonesia's Raja Ampat archipelago, leopard sharks were once a common sight.
00:10It's quite a charismatic shark and not a toothy, sharky shark. It's easy to fall in love.
00:17But overfishing has nearly wiped out the species.
00:23With less than 20 individuals here, they could easily just go extinct.
00:26The lucrative shark trade is to blame.
00:40Now conservationists are trying to restore the population by breeding baby leopard sharks in captivity and releasing them into the ocean.
00:50The overall goal for the next five to ten years is to release 500 sharks.
00:54But conservation sometimes conflicts with the needs of local fishermen.
00:59There's potassium in the sea. It's very expensive.
01:04What's the money that you buy from the ground?
01:07It's like when you buy a baby at school and eat at home.
01:14In this episode of 101 East, we follow the fight to save Indonesia's leopard sharks.
01:21The books.
01:35It's always a bit nerve-wracking to wait for them to arrive, because a lot of things
01:58can go wrong. So far, we've been kind of good at it, but of course, it's never 100%.
02:14This precious cargo has travelled over 11,000 kilometres from the US to this shark nursery
02:22on Indonesia's Cree Island. Inside are eggs of the endangered Indo-Pacific leopard shark.
02:30Sometimes it can be up to 40 hours inside the box, so we try to prepare as much as possible
02:35to have a very smooth transition.
02:44See, it's tail moving. It's always good to see tail moving.
02:48Nesha Rachida is a marine biologist who joined a mission five years ago to repopulate leopard
03:01sharks back into the sea.
03:03Nesha Rachida is a marine biologist who joined a mission five years ago to repopulate leopard
03:06sharks back into the sea.
03:11who joined a mission five years ago
03:13to repopulate leopard sharks back into the sea.
03:21So it's a very long journey of a few days
03:23and it's very lovely to see them still moving
03:26and wiggling inside the egg once upon arrival.
03:32This is the first step in the rewilding process.
03:37Okay, now these guys are all good,
03:40they didn't really want to feed,
03:41so let's check on the rest of them.
03:46You guys are pretty mellow.
03:51Nesha and her team check on an earlier batch of baby sharks.
03:57Oh, are you looking for food?
03:58Yay, you're looking for food!
04:00No.
04:03Food pillow.
04:04Is it?
04:04No.
04:05Many of them are only a few days old
04:10and just learning to eat.
04:16Oh, she's so cute!
04:18The baby of this group has just hatched.
04:23The team has named her Myra.
04:25Oh, they're moving!
04:27Hello.
04:28So, she's Myra now.
04:29Yeah, Myra.
04:30Yeah, Myra.
04:31And has she eaten yet?
04:33No.
04:34She's very shy.
04:35She's always in the corner.
04:36Yeah.
04:37I'm not quite sure why she loves to do that,
04:39but when she, when we had Christina before,
04:41she always goes to the corner,
04:43but as soon as we drop the food,
04:45like, she will go through everything like,
04:47ah, this is my food.
04:48Yeah.
04:49But for Myra over here, Myra is quite slow.
04:52She doesn't really respond to food.
04:55Myra has captured the team's attention,
04:58not just for her striking black zebra-like stripes,
05:01but because she seems to be struggling
05:03to keep up with the other sharks.
05:04Myra has captured the team's attention,
05:07not just for her striking black zebra-like stripes,
05:11but because she seems to be struggling
05:13to keep up with the other sharks.
05:22Well, we always have a little bit of a slow one in the batch.
05:26And she is our baby.
05:27She's our last one, actually, of the season.
05:32Myra feels very special to me in a way
05:35that she is our youngest pup right now
05:38in this first big scale-up of the project.
05:42And it's, you know, we're getting to a point where,
05:45you know, this is kind of the end of the breeding season.
05:48So she's going to be, I guess,
05:50the last one to be released this year.
06:01So we're measuring the daily food intake for every individual
06:07to make sure that it's at least, you know,
06:11consuming the minimum amount.
06:14We have basically two goals in this project,
06:17like to make sure that it can hunt for live food in the wild,
06:21but also to make sure that it's growing continuously
06:23and be ready for release as well.
06:25So it's kind of a balancing act of making sure everyone gets some food
06:30and not being left behind by the other cohort,
06:33because some are much more greedy than others.
06:37So for the first two weeks of a pup,
06:39you're usually at the most critical stage.
06:41A lot of pups actually don't make it.
06:43Today marks a milestone for Myra, her first feast of snails.
06:55She's smaller than the other sharks,
06:57and it's critical that she starts feeding immediately.
07:01Myra will be the 15th shark that the team releases
07:05since the program began in 2020.
07:14Oh, you're smelling it, Myra.
07:18Oh, oh, oh, she's trying to flip us.
07:21Yay!
07:23Oh, she got her first live food.
07:26Well done.
07:27Come on, go listen, Myra.
07:31Nailed it.
07:33Oh, she's going for another one. Yay!
07:36Well done.
07:37She's feisty today.
07:38If it can eat live food, then we're kind of confident, right?
07:44Like, it will be able to hunt its own food in the wild.
07:49Oh, it's going for another one.
07:52I love it when they, like, try to push the snail,
07:55trying to flip it.
07:57Yay!
07:59Good job, Myra.
08:00Myra and her companions will have only six months here in the nursery
08:10to grow stronger before they are released into the wild.
08:17It's the world's first shark rewilding project,
08:20with more than 100 organisations involved.
08:23Nesha has spent countless nights coordinating egg shipments
08:31from aquariums in Australia and the US.
08:34Nesha has sought out the expertise of Mark Erdman.
08:46With only a few months to go before Myra's release,
08:50Nesha has sought out the expertise of Mark Erdman.
08:54A leading coral reef ecologist,
08:57he's the mastermind behind the initiative to rewild leopard sharks
09:01into the pristine waters of Raja Ampat.
09:04We're going to have at least 20 acoustic receivers
09:07placed throughout this area near the release site
09:09in order that we can track the baby leopard sharks
09:13once they're released.
09:14Yeah, and then we'll install all the receivers
09:16right before they're released, basically.
09:21Cree Island is one of about 1,500 islands
09:24that make up the Raja Ampat archipelago,
09:28located off the northwest coast of West Papua in Indonesia.
09:45It's a marine protected area covering 40,000 square kilometres.
09:50There's no coral reef on earth which is more important
09:59as a conservation priority than Raja Ampat.
10:0975% of the world's corals.
10:13It's really a conservation jewel.
10:15A crown jewel where the iconic leopard shark once reigned supreme.
10:22I think leopard sharks are one of the coolest sharks out there.
10:25It is the only species in its family.
10:28So basically, if it becomes extinct,
10:31there's not much else that looks like it in the ecosystem
10:34to kind of replace it.
10:37It also is a very beautiful animal to begin with.
10:40It has a tail as long as its body length.
10:43It has sandpaper skin.
10:46And one of the most interesting bits is definitely
10:48the fact that it hatches with zebra patterns,
10:51and then it evolves into a leopard pattern.
10:56And the third is it's quite a charismatic shark
10:59and not a toothy, sharky shark.
11:01It's easy to fall in love.
11:03There used to be lots of leopard sharks here.
11:11So if you were to go back into the 1990s,
11:13they were quite abundant.
11:15We estimate there might be 20 adults left.
11:17Something happened in the late 90s.
11:25They seem to have become a kind of a high,
11:28trendy item in the shark fin trade.
11:30And they're so easy to catch.
11:33And so immediately, there was just a great reduction in their numbers.
11:39The demand for additional products from sharks and rays
11:43has expanded dramatically.
11:44So probably the biggest issue is actually for health supplements.
11:49So there's a lot of cartilage being taken, the shark liver oil.
11:54All of that is going into beauty and health products,
11:56which are not Asian-driven per se at all, very much European, American and the rest.
12:02So yeah, sharks and rays are having issues everywhere.
12:06We really need to do something.
12:09If we don't actively rewild leopard sharks here,
12:13it could be 100 or 200 years before they come back, if at all.
12:17That they might actually, with less than 20 individuals here,
12:20they could easily just go extinct.
12:21Humans are what caused this problem in the first place.
12:24And I think humans want to fix some of the things that we've mucked up.
12:27And that's what we're doing.
12:32Not everyone, though, wants to see shark fishing come to an end.
12:36The global trade in shark products is valued at about $1 billion a year.
12:45In Surabaya, a major port city far from the protected waters of Raja Ampat,
12:51an astounding number of sharks are being traded.
12:56Indonesia exported almost 700 tons of dried and preserved shark fins in 2021.
13:04Criticism or attempts to regulate the industry are often met with resistance,
13:09and sometimes violence.
13:13I'm a civil society who is currently serving the human culture in Indonesia.
13:19Indonesia
13:24in Indonesia
13:26Indonesia
13:28Indonesia
13:30Kenapa saya kemudian memutuskan untuk merahasiakan identitas dan wajah saya?
13:39Karena itu bagian dari bagaimana saya mengamankan diri saya.
13:43Tidak menurut kemungkinan ada biak-biak yang kemudian terlibat,
13:48terekspos namanya yang kemudian melakukan serangan balik.
13:52Indonesia
13:57Ingin melihat kapan hiu-hiu didatangkan.
14:00Jadi, karena kami sudah mendapatkan informasi bahwa kapal-kapal itu biasanya datang
14:07saat orang masih tidur,
14:08untuk melihat langsung proses kedatangan kapal dan juga hiu itu diturunkan.
14:18It's the break of dawn.
14:20These ships have spent several weeks at sea.
14:24Shark fishing is regulated in Indonesia.
14:27Certain species such as whale sharks are protected,
14:31making it illegal to catch or trade them.
14:36Conservationists are calling for similar protections for leopard sharks.
14:40But for now, they remain at risk.
14:42They remain at risk.
14:44Pak, kalau hiu sudah diturunkan tadi?
14:46Yang hiu, iwak-iwak-wak-wak gitu?
14:48Oh, sudah.
14:49Sudah semua.
14:50Dapat banyak, Pak.
14:53Berapa bisi?
14:54Mas, Pak.
14:55Tidak dapat banyak.
14:56Bukan bisi.
14:58Bukan yang dapat?
14:59Semua ini, Pak.
15:00Berarti dia kan alih mancing.
15:03Ini bambut pirang, kira-kira ini.
15:06Ini luas 10 kilonan.
15:0810 kilonan ini, Pak.
15:09Betul.
15:109 juta.
15:119 juta.
15:129 juta.
15:138 juta.
15:1510 kilonan itu.
15:1610 kilonan.
15:1710 kilonan ini.
15:1912 kilonan ini.
15:2013 kilonan ini.
15:2013 kilonan ini.
15:2214 kilonan ini.
15:2415 kilonan.
15:2515 kilonan itu.
15:27Jadi, masalahnya sekarang kita harus kita bergantikan ini handsut.
15:3115 kilonan ini.
15:3115 kilonan ini?
15:3315 kilonan.
15:3416 kilonan ini.
15:37ETHELA24
15:39It is a country that is the largest in the world.
16:09Because Indonesia has a wide sea and in it there are many species of hiu.
16:16There are about 200 species of hiu and pari in Indonesia.
16:22From my experience, I found that a person who is trying to catch hiu Macandutul because he has a large export market and is highly expensive.
16:52This is my friend who is making a zebra.
17:17What is this?
17:20How much water is?
17:22How much water is?
17:24How much water is?
17:26How much water is this?
17:28How much water is this?
17:304.70 kg.
17:321.70 kg.
17:34It's a lot.
17:361.50 kg.
17:38500 kg.
17:40500 kg.
17:42They sell it to the business in Jakarta
17:45and then they sell it to the store.
17:47They sell it to the store.
17:49They sell it to the store.
17:51It's really strong.
18:04This is a lot of water.
18:06It's a lot of water.
18:08It's a lot of water.
18:10600 kg.
18:12It's a lot of water.
18:14It is a lot of water.
18:17It's the local product.
18:18They sell it to the store.
18:19They sell it to the store, right?
18:21Every time I have 5 minutes.
18:24I buy them as 4,000 kg.
18:26Where they sell it, sir.
18:28They sell it to the store.
18:33I try to sell it.
18:35The store is on the store, right?
18:38Back in Raja Ampat, Nesha is visiting a local school to teach the students about shark conservation.
19:04Hello, how are you? Good to see you again.
19:08Good to see you again.
19:13Good to see you again.
19:14Good to see you again.
19:15Hello, my name is Raja.
19:17I'm from the ReShark program.
19:20Have you ever played in the hatchery?
19:23Yes.
19:24Have you ever played in the hatchery?
19:25Yes.
19:26Maybe there's a question.
19:28Do you have any questions?
19:32From the first time when I was a little diving, did you see it?
19:36I haven't seen it yet.
19:38So, the monitoring team in Raja Ampat, the last 15 years,
19:42the monitoring of the river or the hill here,
19:46the most seen is less than 20 years.
19:48And the hill was just silent in the forest and not being able to kill.
19:54And then, after Raja Ampat has become a national park,
19:59it showed that the other hill are all back,
20:02such as black tip,
20:04the manta, the population has increased,
20:06but the hill is still not.
20:08So, this program is one of the examples
20:12where humans can help the species
20:15to return to the status of the better.
20:20Yes.
20:21Can you protect the hill in Raja Ampat?
20:24How is the best way?
20:26If the hill is happy to live in the Terumbu Karang,
20:29what does it mean?
20:31Karang.
20:32Karang.
20:33Yeah, from the beginning,
20:34you must protect?
20:35Karang.
20:36What does it mean?
20:37Karang.
20:38Karang.
20:39Karang.
20:40Karang.
20:41Karang.
20:42Karang.
20:43Karang.
20:44Karang.
20:45Karang.
20:46Karang.
20:47Karang.
20:48Karang.
20:49Karang.
20:50Karang.
20:51Karang.
20:52Karang.
20:53Karang.
20:54Karang.
20:55Karang.
20:56Karang.
20:57Karang.
20:58Karang.
20:59Karang.
21:00Karang.
21:01Karang.
21:02Karang.
21:03Karang.
21:04Karang.
21:05Karang.
21:06Karang.
21:07Karang.
21:08Karang.
21:09Karang.
21:10Karang.
21:11Karang.
21:12Karang.
21:13Karang.
21:14Karang.
21:15There's no way to say no.
21:22Let me care.
21:38When he's already reached the daily morning,
21:42the minimum.
21:45Back at the nursery, Nesha and her colleagues
21:47are evaluating the shark's progress,
21:50including little Myra's.
21:54Today, Nesha will decide if she's ready
21:57to move to the next stage.
22:02OK, it looks like Myra might be ready for some people
22:06to pop back here.
22:08So this week, she grew close to six centimeters.
22:17And before that, she grew also six centimeters.
22:23She prefers for frozen food, she prefers squid.
22:27Yeah, we can't be giving squid too much.
22:30That's like French fries of the ocean.
22:32We always try to give crabs.
22:34Not much calories.
22:35But they don't really like crabs, like mango crabs.
22:38But we always try.
22:40Maybe we should try the sea pan crab.
22:43So Myra's moving to pop tank.
22:46Then it's time for them to go to the bigger class
22:49to be challenged with the S-class.
22:51What do you call it?
22:52What is S?
22:53Super!
22:54Super class!
22:57So, time to move.
23:11Today is another big day for Myra.
23:15Having struggled to keep up with the other sharks,
23:18after two months, she's finally grown enough in size.
23:22She's now been moved to a new environment,
23:26a fenced sea pen.
23:28So today is Myra's first time in a sea pan.
23:53So I'm just trying to get her to feed.
23:56It's going pretty well.
23:58But, you know, you've got other fishes in here.
24:00And if Myra's not close enough to the food,
24:02it can get eaten by other fish very quickly.
24:05So we did eat one clam, which is really good.
24:21I'd say it's a good protest.
24:25She'll be exposed to more competition when it comes to food.
24:30So when we do feed her, we try at the beginning to have it right next to her.
24:37So it's a bit obvious, but over time we'll start like hiding it under the sand and hiding it between the rocks
24:44so she can actually try to find it.
24:47And we will measure her success obviously by her weekly growth.
24:55So this is definitely my favorite part of the job.
25:00I get to be with the sharks and this is like all science and behavioral observation of what works and what doesn't
25:09and basically just seeing them grow is the best part of the project.
25:25With Myra and her appetite growing day by day, Nesha wants to ensure she has enough live food.
25:34This morning she's heading to a mangrove forest, the natural habitat of the leopard shark in search of snails for Myra to feed on.
25:50With her are the students from a local school she visited earlier.
25:59Foraging for snails among the murky waters, sharp rocks and twisted roots is challenging.
26:07But the students are familiar with the forest and lead the way.
26:17One of the students, Mesli Mambrazar, has developed a passion for shark conservation.
26:23She's very curious and she asked so many questions and she's the only one who's very proactively like, you know, want to be part of the project as much as possible.
26:36For Mesli, the fight against shark fishing is a personal one.
26:41For me, my family is a lion.
26:44Sometimes my parents take a bite to eat it.
26:50I've been to my parents for not to be a lion.
26:55That's what I think I'm here.
27:25The communities of Raja and Pat have a complex relationship with sharks.
27:52The demand for shark products means restrictions on shark hunting are sometimes violated here as people try to earn a living.
28:22In my opinion, it's very good for my friends and friends to protect the world of Raja Ampat, especially the land.
28:42Mezlin's father has been out fishing for one year.
28:52Mezlin's father has been out fishing for one year.
28:58Mezlin's father has been out fishing for weeks.
29:12Mezlin's father has been out fishing for two weeks.
29:32Today, Mezlin is on a mission.
29:36She's going to find a father, confront him, and try to convince him to give up hunting sharks.
29:46I'm going to find a father.
29:48Maybe he's on the other side.
30:06He's on the other side.
30:08He's on the other side.
30:20Come in!
30:22Come on!
30:26I love you, I love you.
30:56This is my pleasure because I met my friend, and also I'm happy because I'm so happy and I don't feel like I'm feeling anything else.
31:10My man is just not able to get food.
31:15After a long day out on the water,
31:42Mesli, her brother, and her father, Ferdinand Mambresar,
31:47head to a shack where he stays when he goes out fishing for weeks.
32:12What about water?
32:15About water?
32:16About water.
32:17We always know that our friends have to keep the water.
32:22We don't think that the water pollution is outside.
32:26Now we're in the Raja Ampat,
32:28so we keep the water that's better,
32:31and we don't have to leave the sand,
32:34so that the water will stay clean, and the water will not die.
32:38When you were little, did you know about conservation?
32:47Because of conservation,
32:49when they were little, they didn't hear anything.
32:53So we have a little bit of water,
32:58and they're still free.
33:00They're still free in the water,
33:02so they can also use potassium.
33:06But for conservation,
33:10we started to be popular since 1990.
33:17I also used potassium in the water.
33:21There was conservation,
33:23and we started to be aware of it,
33:25and we wanted to protect the water.
33:27If we didn't have potassium degrees,
33:30we didn't have potassium.
33:32We didn't have potassium.
33:34We didn't have the water.
33:35After that,
33:36we started to make the water,
33:37and we grew up again.
33:38We started to get our water.
33:39On a午,
33:41after the winter,
33:43we started to get our water.
33:44So the work happened just like that.
33:46The store had huge amounts.
33:48Is that what's the money you buy?
33:52For Bobby's time to eat at school,
33:57then eat at home.
33:59Then there are other needs for the need at home.
34:222,000 kilometres away in the Indonesian city of Surabaya, the investigative journalist
34:41has found evidence of the enormity of the shark trade.
34:45Locals have pointed him to a shark fin drawing facility, not far from the fishing port he
34:54visited earlier.
35:22This is a lot of fish.
35:24This fish is more rare than in the outside.
35:28This is the skinhead.
35:29It's also the skinhead and the skinhead.
35:31What is the best?
35:33It's the skinhead and warm water.
35:35What is the best?
35:37They collect each day.
35:40They collect the fish, the fish inside.
35:45So, they can use the fish then?
35:47In this case, we usually wear a bag, a jacket,
35:52and if we go to the Cina, we can make food.
36:02This is a big business.
36:05$1 billion,
36:07and the money is made from the business.
36:11And they don't expect that the activity can be exposed to the outside.
36:21The actors don't expect that this crime or what they do...
36:27...or the consequences they get from this business will stop or stop.
36:33It's very difficult to break down.
36:41I'm very curious in the future the situation of Hiu will become better.
37:03All are agreed to support Hiu, but during the same time...
37:12...the violence of Hiu and the trend of Hiu will increase...
37:17...and the death rate of Hiu will increase.
37:23It's been six months since Myra arrived in Raja Ampat.
37:37Her skin has changed completely from the black zebra stripe she had as a baby...
37:42...to the leopard spots she has now.
37:48Today at the nursery Nesha and her team will decide...
37:53...if she's finally ready for the wild.
37:580.775.
38:05She's so big.
38:09Careful, don't run.
38:18Come on.
38:30Come on.
38:32I'm so stout.
38:35Okay, careful.
38:38She's already kind of excel in eating diabor by herself...
38:46...and also able to hunt and forage for herself.
38:50So that's good.
38:52Yep.
38:54And she's already kind of in the level of ready for the wild.
38:59Myra has passed the test.
39:05A date has been set.
39:09It's the day before Myra's release.
39:19Mesli has brought her father to the shark nursery for the first time.
39:26Since talking to him, he's agreed to stop fishing for sharks completely.
39:47So, Dad, that's the house to carry on.
39:53What is the best?
39:55I'm going to get the best to get the best to get the best.
39:59Yes, we'll get the best here and we'll get the best to get the best.
40:03Good afternoon.
40:06Good morning.
40:07Hi.
40:08How are you?
40:09How are you?
40:10How are you going to get the first shot?
40:12No, the first shot.
40:14We have 5 here, there are a lot of food here.
40:21There are a lot of food here.
40:26What are the motives?
40:27It's different.
40:28It's different.
40:29It's different.
40:31It's different.
40:35I'm going to put my hand in the air.
40:37I'm going to put it.
40:40The motives are different.
40:43How are you?
40:44I feel very happy.
40:47It's very good.
40:50It's very beautiful.
40:53It's very beautiful.
40:56It's amazing.
41:02I think it's very beautiful.
41:17We often get the best ones, but the best ones are the best ones.
41:21Yes, but that's what we do.
41:26Now we have to be aware of it.
41:29We are aware of it.
41:31We are aware of it.
41:33We are aware of it.
41:35We are aware of it.
41:43We are aware of it.
41:46You see?
41:47We are aware of it.
41:48We are aware of it.
41:50The ones that have no points.
41:53We are aware of it.
41:56I feel very sad.
41:59Because I listened to them before.
42:03Bapak pernah buang tali, terus dapat jenis begini.
42:07Terus kasih luka baru dia kasih pergi.
42:10Terus hari ini Bapak lagi lihat sementara ada buli gaya securit ini.
42:16Merasa sayang saja pas siang.
42:19Tapi Bapak senang atau tidak karena Bapaknya?
42:21Ya, senang. Senang sekali.
42:26For Mezli's family, it's the beginning of a new chapter.
42:33In the nursery, the big day has finally arrived.
42:42It's time for Myra to be released into the wild.
42:46In the morning of the release, we prepare dive gears and, you know,
42:50where people will be, either in the boat or in the nursery,
42:53or who's the dive team, who's the snorkel team.
42:58We also prepare the hydrophone, make sure they're all charged up
43:01because they're going to be needing to be turned on for, like, close to ten hours.
43:05Yeah, I'm a little bit excited and also a little bit nervous.
43:09I love Myra. So...
43:15Yeah, I'm a little bit excited and also a little bit nervous.
43:35I love Mayra, so yeah, she's our baby girl, she's beautiful and I hope she's surviving
43:43the way.
43:47Before Mayra's release, the team does a final blood test.
43:58Okay everyone, so this morning, big day, we're going to be releasing Mayra.
44:04Very exciting day and of course we have a division of labor that we have to do.
44:08So I will be out in the lagoon, a bit off in the blue, waiting for the animal.
44:14Nesh, I guess you'll be doing the actual release, right?
44:18Mardia as normal, you'll be the one transferring Mayra from the CPEN out to Nesha.
44:23And I guess you and Aaron can hopefully be in the boat in the asphalt with the hydrophones,
44:29yeah?
44:30Such that when the release happens, if you can then follow along with the snorkel, and
44:36hopefully she comes into the lagoon.
44:40At that point, of course, Mardia, if you're able to also join me with a tank, that would
44:45be good because as you know, they can sometimes swim faster than I can.
44:49And you guys will just be up top listening with the hydrophone, and let us know if we
44:54come up, if you're still hearing it, so.
45:06I think I'm more on adrenaline rush than anything, but it's mostly excited.
45:11In the ocean, it's not like in the forest, you can somewhat follow an animal around or
45:24have a tracker on it, but in the water, it's a bit more difficult.
45:30.
45:36I think it's hot.
45:38Flowing and breathe.
45:41Alright.
45:42Three.
45:43Two.
45:44One.
45:45.
45:47.
45:50.
45:54.
45:57.
45:59It's amazing what humans can do and be part of rewilding and making
46:29the world a better place and all you see is basically conservation optimism and just
46:34want to replicate it everywhere else.

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