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He was the face of a national health campaign. A symbol of transformation. But behind the smiling Subway spokesperson was a dark and disturbing secret.
In this video, we dive deep into Jared from Subway: Catching a Monster, the gripping docuseries that exposes how Jared Fogle’s crimes were uncovered, the brave individuals who brought him down, and the systemic failures that allowed his abuse to continue for years.
⚠️ Viewer discretion is advised. This story involves sensitive content including child exploitation.
In this video, we dive deep into Jared from Subway: Catching a Monster, the gripping docuseries that exposes how Jared Fogle’s crimes were uncovered, the brave individuals who brought him down, and the systemic failures that allowed his abuse to continue for years.
⚠️ Viewer discretion is advised. This story involves sensitive content including child exploitation.
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00:00Good morning, viewers. We're now live at the New York City Marathon, where over two and a half million people have gathered to watch the race.
00:27My goal for this marathon is simply to finish. If I can do it, you can do it.
00:33It was 2010. I had lost touch with Jared. He was tired of me not meeting him in person.
00:45But I never let my guard down because I was sure that Jared Fogel was an active pedophile.
00:53So the public and my children were at risk.
01:02I wanted to warn people so people could protect their children.
01:08You know, I speak to children all over the country and actually all over the world now.
01:11There were times that I just wanted to shout out over the airways.
01:16Sorry.
01:31Sorry. I didn't expect that.
01:33I was prevented from talking by the FBI and I couldn't take it anymore.
01:45At this point, I went to the local authorities, the Sarasota Police Department.
01:58I turned in the FBI for not doing their due diligence to close this case with the evidence that I had provided.
02:06I felt there was enough.
02:10It's kind of a crazy move that, isn't it? You're taking on the FBI.
02:14Doing the right thing is important to me.
02:17And that's what I thought I was doing.
02:18My name is Chris Kentonzo.
02:29I used to be a detective with the Sarasota City Police Department.
02:34On May 13th, 2010, Ms. Rochelle Herman came in to the station.
02:49I spoke with her about Jared Fogle.
02:53Her chief concern at that time was that he was going to hurt children, including her own.
02:59And she felt like we needed to get this guy off the street.
03:05She had already contacted the FBI, felt that it wasn't moving fast enough.
03:10And I think she wanted an audience to believe her and do something.
03:15My first concern was, is this a person that's enamored with a celebrity?
03:23And then she showed us her evidence.
03:25She had phone recordings, all kinds of information in reference to Mr. Fogle.
03:30Ms. Scott, I want you to describe your kids for me.
03:36Ms. Scott, I want you to describe your kids for me.
03:39Ms. My kids? Oh, gosh.
03:42Blue eyes, blonde hair.
03:45Ms. That's the girl of the guys.
03:48So what's your kids? Do you think I'll like better seeing naked, your son or your daughter?
03:52Ms. Um, I don't know. You seem to like both girls and boys.
03:57Ms. Uh-huh. Which one would you think I would like better?
04:00Ms. I don't know. I really don't.
04:02Ms. You don't know? No.
04:06Ms. When I listened to Rochelle's tapes, I was shocked.
04:10I genuinely was shocked because he comes across as a clean-cut guy.
04:14But predators come in many shapes, forms, and oftentimes they can be people that we have a lot of respect for.
04:22I was very disturbed. I was concerned that there could be a possibility that this man was going to do things.
04:28Ms. But because Mr. Fogel lived out of state, there had been, as I knew, no crime committed in Sarasota, so we really couldn't do any kind of arrest.
04:42Ms. But we did take her seriously.
04:45Ms. And I spoke with Agent Billings at the FBI, and she did verify that there was an active investigation concerning Mr. Fogel.
04:55Ms. I was there for several hours.
05:00Ms. I told the detectives, I'm going to play my tapes on my radio show.
05:07Ms. I was going to reveal who Jared was if they didn't do anything.
05:15Ms. I told her, don't do that. That would not be a good idea. Broadcasting something like that can be very harmful to an investigation.
05:22Number one, it can scare the suspect off. And number two, it could cause problems for her.
05:29Somebody could come after her and maybe physically hurt her.
05:32Ms. I was frustrated and incredibly disappointed.
05:38Ms. But I agreed not to share the tapes publicly.
05:43Ms. I was allowed to leave the police station, and my head is just spinning.
05:53Ms. I felt as though I am being watched.
06:01Ms. My wanting to turn evidence on the FBI, was I now someone to be questioned?
06:12Am I a loose cannon? Was I someone not to be trusted?
06:17Was that a level of paranoia, or was there truth to that? I don't know.
06:22Mr. One evening, I was on the air. It was about quarter to 11 or so. My show was about to end. And there was two guys banging on the door.
06:41They had black suits with black sunglasses on. It was right out of the movies. It was the men in black.
06:49The FBI, they showed me their badges. And I said, can I help you guys?
06:56They said, Rochelle Herman, please. And they're like, who the hell are you?
07:00I said, I'm the station manager. And I'm on the air for another 15 minutes. Thank you. We'll be back.
07:06They turned and walked in unison. It was bizarre. I'd never seen anything like that.
07:12So we wrapped up and zoomed across the street, and we watched from a bar.
07:17They were up there for almost two hours. They took computers. They took boxes. They took stacks of printed out emails and texts. And they took a lot of stuff.
07:28The FBI, they raided the radio station. They raided my home to collect anything that I may not have turned over.
07:40They knew that I could tell the public at any moment about Jared.
07:45The FBI told me to stay quiet, or I would be charged with impeding an ongoing investigation.
07:54So I did. I had to step back. I had to become a ghost.
07:59The toll that working undercover for the FBI had on my health was astronomical.
08:18The PTSD that I have experienced because of this has been debilitating.
08:28I truly believe that when someone undergoes such a stressful situation for so many years,
08:36it makes you susceptible to other things.
08:41In the fall of 2012, I was diagnosed with reflex sympathetic dystrophy,
08:49known as suicide disease because it is the most painful chronic disease known to man.
08:57I was on incredible amounts of painkillers and medications.
09:11My entire life changed. It cost me my career.
09:17I felt bad for Rochelle because she's a beautiful person, and she was in pretty bad shape.
09:24Seeing what she became was hard.
09:28The pain and all the stress and everything that's happened,
09:32she's completely different from who she was.
09:37It was a struggle every day.
09:39And I see Jared living a wonderful life.
09:47And he just got married. Congratulations.
09:49Thank you very much. Yeah, it's been great.
09:51My first trip back in the road after being married, so it's awesome.
09:54Jared was married to Katie McLaughlin.
09:57She seemed very nice, very sweet.
10:00From the outside to me, their relationship was simple.
10:04Katie was very much the housewife, taking care of the kids.
10:08Jared was out making the money.
10:11This holiday season, Subway is celebrating you.
10:14Customer appreciation is back.
10:16Enjoy.
10:17By 2013, Jared had made about 300 commercials and was worth $15 million.
10:23Jared, Jared!
10:25I am your biggest fan.
10:26You know, you're more handsome than I am.
10:28Ever since the Friends of Jared commercial, I have followed everything that he's done ever since.
10:36How you doing, buddy?
10:37I was very happy for him.
10:40He seemed very humble.
10:42He doesn't seem like he thought he was better than anybody else.
10:45He treated everybody with respect.
10:47Nice to meet you guys. How are you doing?
10:49He was just a nice guy.
10:53Over 200 pounds.
10:54For 15 years.
10:56Bravo.
10:57Take a bow, Jared.
10:58My name is Chuck Cohen.
11:15I was a captain with the Indiana State Police.
11:20In mid to late 2014, I received a phone call from an Indiana State Trooper that I knew.
11:25He said that he had a friend who had been in communication with a man sending images that depicted bestiality.
11:34I made the decision to ask an investigator to get more information.
11:42Investigators recovered electronic communication about sexual contact with an animal.
11:47At the time, in Indiana, the possession of images and videos that depict bestiality is not a crime.
11:58But the actual act of bestiality, that would be unlawful.
12:04Investigators determined that the electronic communication was sent by Russell Taylor.
12:10Russell Taylor, at the time, was employed as the executive director of the Jared Foundation, owned and run by Jared Fogle, the subway guy.
12:27Investigators served a search warrant at Russell Taylor's house to collect evidence associated with bestiality.
12:33He was living in a very nice house in central Indiana.
12:37By all exterior appearances, he was a very average, upper middle class person.
12:43Russell Taylor didn't have any criminal history whatsoever that we were aware of.
12:48Investigators did find images of an adult female in contact with an animal.
12:52And they identified the person in the images as Angie Taylor, Russell Taylor's wife.
13:03During the course of the search of Russell Taylor's house, investigators inadvertently discovered hidden cameras.
13:14Built into things that look like something else, like a clock.
13:21In places like children's bedrooms.
13:36When he was interviewed by investigators, one of the things Russell Taylor told them was he placed the cameras there to prevent theft.
13:42But the location of the cameras was inconsistent with what Russell Taylor said.
13:49They were pointed towards places that were intimate to children.
13:53Placed towards beds trying to record children when they were unclothed.
13:59One of the things investigators found were videos that appeared to be produced by those cameras.
14:06Of children undressed, of children involved in some cases in sex acts.
14:13Investigators see horrible things.
14:17In my experience, the videos that stick with me the most are the ones where I've heard the audio.
14:23It's hearing the fear in the child's voice.
14:29The only thing that surpasses that is the horrors that the children themselves experience.
14:35When a child is the victim of production child pornography, that will follow that child for their entire life.
14:43After Russell was arrested, we had to talk to the FBI.
14:53I was in a very traumatic, frozen state.
14:57I couldn't even believe what was happening to me.
15:01They sat me down and told me that there were cameras all throughout the house.
15:07They were everywhere.
15:10Russell, he was watching us.
15:13In the shower, watching us get dressed in our rooms, watching us masturbate.
15:16We were being watched 24-7.
15:20You just feel so dirty when you find something out like that.
15:25You just...
15:27It's just really hard to accept that that even happened.
15:34And the FBI showed us still images of just our faces.
15:40The rest of the bodies were blocked out.
15:42I identified myself, I identified my sister, and then I had to identify some of my closest friends.
15:53I think I was starting to reconcile what was really going on.
15:59Everything that ever happened with Russell finally made sense.
16:12When our mom met Russell Taylor, I was about 10, and Christian would have been about 13.
16:22It looked like we all were doing well.
16:25We were going on vacations. We were moving on up in the world.
16:30But all of that was a facade because our lives really started to take a turn for the worst.
16:36Your average teenager will get in trouble for drinking underage and smoking weed, but it wasn't like that for us.
16:47I was being introduced to all of that by my mom and Russell.
16:52We're throwing these parties and it's normal. They want us to. They encouraged us to.
17:03You don't know the difference between what is right and what is wrong because a trusted source, who is supposed to be your parent, is telling you that it's okay.
17:13The common quote in our home was age is just a number. As long as you're mature enough to do it, you're going to do it.
17:24I think that was the seed that was planted and that began the grooming process for us.
17:32Allowing us to drink and smoke and party made us vulnerable to talk about sexual things.
17:43It didn't even have to be about you or I. It was about them.
17:49My mom's attitude to sexual behavior, it went from zero to a hundred.
17:57She would leave the room after giving Russell oral and come tell me about it.
18:04Like, it was just very open.
18:08I remember I was 12 at the time and Russell was telling me,
18:12you should be having sex, you know, you should be exploring your body.
18:16And I told him no.
18:19And he proceeded to kind of make fun of me because I hadn't done those things.
18:26One day Russell texted me.
18:29He said, hey, I left something on your bed.
18:33I went up there and there was a dildo.
18:37And the computer pulled up with porn.
18:40It freaked me out.
18:46He's leaving this for me.
18:49So what am I supposed to do?
18:52I think Russell was doing all these things to catch us on camera.
18:58Literally setting up scenes to put into his film.
19:04Russell Taylor's accused of recording underage girls without their knowledge to produce porn.
19:12Taylor was in some of the images.
19:14When Russell Taylor was arrested in 2015, both Jared Fogel and Subway Corporation released statements.
19:25The statement that Jared Fogel released was,
19:27I was shocked to learn of the disturbing allegations against Mr. Taylor,
19:32a fact for immediately that Jared Foundation is severing all ties with Mr. Taylor.
19:38The statement from Subway was, we don't have any affiliation with the Foundation and we were disgusted to hear about these claims.
19:45We're glad Jared took quick action to sever all his ties with Mr. Taylor.
19:51I'm sure Subway was very concerned the day Russell Taylor was arrested.
19:56And I'm sure somebody somewhere at Subway just said, God, please don't let Jared Fogel be involved in this.
20:04What an inspiration.
20:05Subway, eat fresh.
20:10Through the course of the investigation, investigators found with thousands of text messages.
20:15And also numerous images and videos of children.
20:24The material was horrible.
20:26Investigators were able to identify 12 victims.
20:32One of the things investigators were able to uncover is Russell Taylor sent a image of a naked child to Jared Fogel.
20:40Russell Taylor, when interviewed, told investigators Jared Fogel had actually gone out to dinner with that child victim.
20:51Jared Fogel had the option of calling the police.
20:56He could have told Russell Taylor, I don't want this, don't send anymore.
21:01Or he could have done what he did.
21:02My name is Steven De Broda.
21:14Back in 2014, I was an assistant U.S. attorney.
21:18When I saw the text message that featured a minor he knew in real life,
21:23we began the investigation of Jared Fogel.
21:26If there's one piece of evidence like that, there could be more.
21:29Russell Taylor, when interviewed, claimed that some of his criminal behavior was motivated by a desire to produce child pornography for Jared Fogel.
21:40We know from other communications that at one point a thumb drive in a laptop computer containing child pornography, both commercial and homemade, was given from Russell Taylor to Jared Fogel.
21:50So, we developed enough information to get a search warrant for Jared's home.
21:58So, the morning of July 7th, investigators met at about 5 o'clock in the morning.
22:05Most of the officers were not aware of the location they were going to search.
22:09Our entire goal was to do this as discreetly as possible, with as little media attention as possible.
22:18That was unsuccessful.
22:21Developing story out of Indiana.
22:24FBI agents raiding the home of Subway spokesman Jared Fogel.
22:29I was shocked to say the least when I first saw that something was happening with Jared.
22:33Over the 25 years of my career, there was more media attention at this than any other investigation.
22:40You know, people flocked there, cameras from TV, our reporters, our photographers.
22:45It was the classic media circus.
22:48I don't think anyone understood the full scope of what was going on.
22:51But when the truth came out, it shocked the nation to its core.
23:03I received a phone call from a friend of mine.
23:15You need to turn on the news now.
23:18Investigators showed up around 6.30 in the morning.
23:20They went through the home.
23:21In fact, we see video of them coming out with hard drives and computers.
23:25Jared's house was being raided.
23:28I was shocked.
23:31Oh my gosh, it's actually happening.
23:34I just don't think the FBI raids people for no reason.
23:38The only thing I ever see around his home are happy people doing their yard, waving.
23:44So I'm shocked and upset, of course, and saddened.
23:48The FBI will only say that an investigation is taking place in Zionville.
23:53Jared, you got anything to say?
23:55We want to stress that he has not been arrested.
23:58He has not been charged.
24:00But again, it is an ongoing investigation.
24:03Investigators found digital devices, cell phones, USB drives, several computers.
24:105.6 terabytes of information had to be reviewed to see whether or not there was other evidence or other crimes they committed.
24:18That very day that the news broke, I contacted our local station, ABC7.
24:29I felt it was important to get my story out there and reveal the monster behind the doors.
24:35I remember my assignment manager said, Max, I may have something for you.
24:43And she tells me about this woman who tipped off the FBI on Jared Fogle and something to do with child pornography.
24:53And I'm like, okay, is this just some kook woman trying to get attention?
24:57So I call Rochelle and she tells me her story.
25:04I didn't know whether to trust this woman.
25:08So I am contacting sources and I will say I felt very comfortable that she was telling the truth.
25:16So we did an interview with her.
25:20Did he mention to you that he in fact did have relations with underage children?
25:26Yes, he did.
25:28Jared Fogle to you is what?
25:31Is a monster.
25:35When Rochelle's news broke, I didn't believe it at first.
25:37I thought it wasn't true.
25:39Because Jared Fogle was considered one of the most trusted people in the country.
25:43In the public's eye, I think people were still siding with Fogle and believing that he'd been duped.
25:50A lot of cases involving famous people don't go the right way.
25:54In his particular case, he had fame and he has money.
25:59So we had the concern that Fogle was going to be one more celebrity that would get away with it.
26:07Everyone's still waiting for investigators to give some comments about what they may have found during this investigation.
26:14After the search of his residence, we had to do a painstaking analysis of what digital evidence was there.
26:21My conclusion was that Jared Fogle was fully involved in criminal activity with Russell Taylor.
26:27My question was, was I going to be able to hold him accountable for the totality of what he did?
26:31And that wasn't clear to me until we saw all of the text messages that we got as a result of searching his house.
26:39The text showed Jared Fogle was very good at maintaining his double life.
26:44He would travel around the United States for subway. We know he was in Las Vegas, Florida, and New York City.
26:57But when he's not in public, when he's by himself in a hotel room...
27:03Jared Fogle spent $12,000 a year on sex workers.
27:07Then he would ask if they had access to any underage prostituted minors.
27:24He successfully had sex with prostituted minors on multiple occasions.
27:29At the Plaza Hotel just off Central Park, and also at the Ritz Carlton in Manhattan.
27:39The two prostituted minors in New York were 16 years of age, and we call that traveling over a state line to engage in unlawful sex with a minor.
27:50That's a federal crime.
27:53So, at the end of the day, we charged him with conspiring with Russell Taylor to distribute and receive child pornography.
28:01And also victimizing prostituted minors in New York.
28:06Jared Fogle was searched in July of 2015, and he was pleading guilty by August.
28:12The face of Subway has gone from being famous to being infamous for something much more sinister.
28:17Jared Fogle pleading guilty to child pornography charges and other shocking sex crimes.
28:24He paid to have sex with victims that he knew were kids.
28:29When Jared Fogle first pleaded guilty, it sent shockwaves. No one could believe it.
28:36What we were able to determine was that there were 14 victims, and all of them were subjected to very serious federal crimes.
28:43The guy on the radio said, big trouble for Jared from Subway.
28:50And I listened to him, I'm like, oh my God. They got him. They got him.
28:53Let's call this what it is. This is about using wealth, status, and secrecy to illegally exploit children.
29:01We were just shocked. We just couldn't comprehend that the story was really true.
29:09He had a family, he had children, and then to just throw it away like that is just, it makes me angry and it makes me sad.
29:17I felt sick to my stomach. I felt weird about knowing the guy. It was just horrible.
29:26And I felt for all of the victims and the people involved.
29:31Sir, is there anything you want to say?
29:33His wife immediately filed for divorce. She also asked for custody of their two children, and she denounced him in public.
29:40Breaking news story regarding former Subway spokesman Jared Fogel. And just moments ago, Katie McLaughlin spoke publicly for the first time ever.
29:49Finding out that your husband and the father of your children is a child predator is devastating.
29:55Among her claims that Subway was alerted at least three times to Jared's possible sexual attraction to children and did nothing about it.
30:03Finding out that Subway did not act upon at least one complaint is beyond comprehension.
30:10Did Subway cover it up? I don't know. I think the more logical reasoning here is that Subway just did not find the allegations truthful.
30:24Subway says it found just one serious complaint about its former spokesman Jared Fogel, but it wasn't connected to any sexual misconduct.
30:35Subway has now closed its investigation.
30:38You can't help but wonder, did Jared Fogel get away with his crimes for so long because of his fame?
30:48We may not ever know the full story.
30:50Today, former Subway spokesman Jared Fogel will be sentenced on federal charges of possession of child pornography and having sex with a minor.
31:00Charges that carry a penalty between five and 50 years in federal prison.
31:05A literal media frenzy is on hand awaiting former Subway spokesman Jared Fogel.
31:09The betrayal of the public's trust triggered interest in the case.
31:21As you can see here behind me, dozens of photographers, dozens of reporters out here speaking about history as it's being made.
31:27For me, my goal was to get a sentence that I thought was a fair reflection of what we knew he had done.
31:34The minimum sentence he could get was five years.
31:39The maximum sentence he could receive was 50 years.
31:43In the sentencing hearing, the defendant gets an opportunity to directly address the court.
31:48Fogel went on to tell Judge Pratt,
31:49I went from being raised with good, solid morals and values to living the life of deception, lies and complete self-centeredness.
32:00I had become dependent on alcohol, pornography and prostitutes.
32:05The victims that I have harmed as a result of my decisions will carry a huge burden for the rest of their lives.
32:12Not a day will go by that I don't think about them.
32:16I take full and absolute responsibility for what I have done.
32:20Jared's defense attorneys had him evaluated.
32:24One of the experts provided testimony that Jared was addicted to sexual activity.
32:30His attorneys said early on that he had swapped his food addiction for a sex addiction.
32:40And that he was a good candidate for treatment, that he would be able to beat this and get better.
32:45That seems ludicrous on its face today. It seemed ludicrous at the time.
32:50I think you could have any number of addictions and you're not suddenly going to find someone who's underage sexually attractive.
32:56The defense had one of their witnesses saying it was mild pedophilia.
33:02That his problem primarily was teenage girls.
33:05But he was, according to our evidence, sexually attracted to children as young as age six, boys and girls.
33:14Several women around the United States came forward and said Jared would bring up the issue of his sexual attraction to minors.
33:21One of them, Rachelle Herman, had a set of recordings with Jared Fogle over a period of time.
33:31Have you ever been in a locker room at one of the schools?
33:36Not during a school, which I wish I would be.
33:39Really?
33:41I'd love to try and do that.
33:42I wonder how you'd do that.
33:44I don't know, and that looks like a simple video camera in there, you know.
33:48At the very least, I can watch him strip down.
33:51As far as I'm aware, there is no evidence to support that Jared Fogle ever did any of the things he discussed with Rachelle Herman.
34:13But the existence of the tapes showed he had a sexual interest in minors and a long-standing and persistent pattern of behavior.
34:23It's not a one moment of bad judgment. It's not a small addiction. It's a major problem.
34:29Rachelle's tapes clearly had a huge impact on the judge because when it came to sentencing, she went beyond the prosecutor's recommendations, and I can tell you that is very rare.
34:40The judge in this case, federal judge Tanya Walton Pratt, sentencing Jared Fogle to 15 and a half years in prison.
34:49He is going to be registered as a sex offender and basically being watched the entirety of his life.
34:54I know that there are guidelines, and I know that the judge took everything into consideration, but there's 14 victims.
35:07How is 15 years enough?
35:12Now, looking back on it, it makes me angry.
35:19Jared was just completely complicit in the videos that were being taken of us in our most vulnerable moments.
35:27He was the puppet master, and Russell was kind of just his puppet.
35:34I think Jared Fogle was wired to be sexually attracted to children, and his situation was made worse when he met Russell Taylor.
35:43They become this toxic combination together.
35:45Russell Taylor is paying the price for victimizing children he secretly videotaped in the nude.
35:52The federal crime will cost them more than two decades in prison.
35:55It was his cooperation that allowed them to arrest and charge Jared Fogle.
35:59So many terrible memories in that house.
36:10It looks like a family home, but really it was toxic and evil.
36:16Yeah.
36:18It's kind of hard to believe we've lived in there, and all those things happened inside.
36:24I don't feel trapped in there anymore, but this house robbed me of my childhood.
36:31Russell Taylor, to me, is now a monster.
36:41But I think my mom, Angela, was just as dangerous as Russell and Jared, if not more.
36:51We got a call from the FBI in 2020.
36:55The case was being reopened.
36:56The FBI had this new evidence.
37:02They said, we're going to show you things about your mom that you've never seen before.
37:07And they showed us text messages and text messages and text messages of our mom talking about wanting to have sex with us.
37:17Wanting to let Russell have sex with us.
37:21She was watching us live on these cameras.
37:26I'm sorry.
37:29I'm sorry.
37:34You just feel so unloved.
37:37Just how someone who is supposed to love you and protect you, supposed to be your mom, is dangerous.
37:50We were asked to testify against her.
37:56And I wanted to tell the world what she had done because she stole so much of my childhood away from me.
38:05I felt, you exposed me. I'm going to expose you.
38:11Russell Taylor's former wife was charged with sex crimes.
38:15And in 2021, she was convicted after a jury trial.
38:19Judge Pratt's sentence for Taylor's former wife, Angela Baldwin, was 33 years.
38:25She molested her own relatives and was gleeful about it.
38:29This was someone who chose to do this. This was someone who wanted to do this.
38:32And it's as horrific an exploitation of children who should be able to trust you.
38:41I've asked myself many times, why would our mom do this to her children?
38:48I would label her as evil. She just was not a good mom. She just was not a good mother.
38:58I would definitely say having a child has changed my life.
39:04I've never loved somebody so much. I just want to give my daughter what I didn't have.
39:15I feel like our entire lives we've really just been surviving.
39:20I didn't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
39:24And now I can finally see that light.
39:27I can finally get a little bit of the taste of freedom and happiness.
39:38And it tastes so good. It really does.
39:51Although we've never met Rochelle, I'm definitely thankful for the part that she's played.
39:56Because we didn't have the power to speak up for ourselves.
40:01I would never be able to live my life knowing that I stood down.
40:06I needed to help save these children.
40:10And I would do it all over again.
40:13But I do regret how it tore my relationship with my children apart.
40:21My sister, Angela, struggles a lot with the same things that I do.
40:27Like anxiety and I think she also like has heavy depression.
40:31But she wants to get her life on track again.
40:34The whole thing with Jared Fogel, it's definitely strained like my relationship with my sister.
40:43And my mother.
40:46Around four or five years ago, I moved to Taiwan.
40:49And I've never gone back to America.
40:53There's a lot of reasons why there's been a lot that's happened.
40:58I'm not sure like what I should say to be honest.
41:01But I'm very proud of my mother.
41:07She did do something heroic.
41:09And it was selfless because she lost a lot in the process.
41:13I'm not the same person I used to be.
41:19But I will not allow this experience with Jared to define my life.
41:26If I ever had the opportunity to talk to those 14 victims, I would share it with them.
41:32Do not give Jared the power to define what he did to you as who you are because that's not who you are.
41:46And love yourself because you survived.
41:51And I personally thank you for coming forward to help stop a monster.
41:59I'm sorry.
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