Matt and Emma Willis spill on their ‘mortifying’ proposal

The Independent

In celebration of Love is Blind UK season 2, co-hosts (and ultimate relationship goals) Matt and Emma Willis join a special episode of Overrated or Underrated to share their piping hot takes on love and dating.From the ethics of ghosting to breakup sex, dating apps to love at first sight, the couple discuss the challenges and quirks of finding – and keeping – love.They also look back on the early days of their courtship, from Busted and MTV to married life, and reveal the mortifying story behind their engagement.

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00:00I proposed and I got down on one knee and Emma looked mortified.

00:02No, he tried to get down on one knee.

00:04Tried to get down, I tried to get down.

00:05And I grabbed him by his neck and pulled him back up.

00:07I said, don't you dare.

00:08Not by his neck, by his neck.

00:09Yeah, like this, like this.

00:12I thought, he's really cute underneath all that make-up.

00:14I was 20.

00:15No, I'm not, it's not a bad thing.

00:18She made me watch The Princess Diaries 2

00:20and literally at one point she gets engaged

00:24and she went, that's the ring I'd like to wear.

00:26Pulling in line with you.

00:28Oh my God, this never happened.

00:29To honour Love is Blind Season 2,

00:32I wanted to play a little game with you both.

00:33I'm going to throw out a bunch of relationship tropes.

00:35You're just going to tell me if you think they're overrated or underrated.

00:38We'll talk ourselves into the other person viewpoint.

00:41I'll probably fall in line.

00:42Yeah.

00:43To start off, love at first sight.

00:45What do we think?

00:46Love at first sight.

00:47I think it's underrated.

00:48People are quite sceptical about it being a thing.

00:51Do you know what I mean?

00:52Yeah, I think you're probably right.

00:53People are like, you can't fall in love at first sight.

00:55You can't.

00:56But you can.

00:56With you guys, was it like, oh my God.

00:59I look into your eyes and I just know, this is my person that I want to be with.

01:02I watched you on telly and I was like, I've got to meet that girl.

01:05That's what I thought.

01:06I was like, I've got to meet her.

01:08The first time I saw him at his interview on MTV,

01:11I thought, he's really cute underneath all that makeup.

01:15It was the noughties.

01:15He was, yeah, he loved a bit of glam, didn't you?

01:19I did, I did.

01:20Well, I had terrible skin as well, so I had so much makeup on.

01:22I was 20.

01:23No, I'm not.

01:24It's not a bad thing.

01:25I don't think the first thing we thought was, oh my God, I'm in love with you.

01:30I'm going to marry them.

01:31See, I've taught myself the other way now.

01:33I'm like, maybe it is a bit overrated.

01:34I think it's overrated.

01:35I think it's so much more to it than that.

01:37Post-breakup sex.

01:38I'm like, it's just been him for 20-odd years.

01:42I don't know.

01:44I mean, we broke up here and there in the beginning.

01:46You know, like, over the first, like, year, month,

01:49I'd be like, oh, this is working out.

01:51And then straight back in.

01:53Classic.

01:54So, yeah, underrated.

01:58Being friends with your ex.

02:00I think there's a few things that come into play.

02:03It's like, how is your current partner feeling about you being friends with your ex?

02:07And how friendly is the friendship?

02:10If you're sat on the couch and they're texting them, that's a bit much.

02:13It also depends on the ex.

02:15Because some of them you just don't want to be friends with.

02:17Some of them, you know, you want to put them on a...

02:19You want to put them on a little island

02:22and just put all the exes on the island

02:25and just leave them there to kill each other.

02:26I love how you said all of them.

02:28All of the exes.

02:29I'm like...

02:30All of the exes.

02:31Tell us about your history.

02:34I think we're leaning towards underrated.

02:36I think it's underrated.

02:36Yeah, because I think also,

02:38depending on the relationship and what it was like,

02:40if it was an overall, genuine, good relationship,

02:44I think it's nice that you still have that respect for them.

02:46Yeah.

02:46So next up is ghosting.

02:49That's always wrong.

02:51Ghosting would make me so cross.

02:52I'd probably not want the confrontation.

02:54I'd probably be a ghoster.

02:56I think I would.

02:58You wouldn't?

02:59Well, I think it depends how far you've gone.

03:01What if you've been on one date?

03:02One date?

03:03Yeah.

03:04You owe someone a,

03:05this is not going to work out.

03:06A guy once sent me a gif.

03:07Really?

03:08Yeah.

03:08Saying what?

03:09You know the gif where Homer Simpson

03:11is like backing into the hedge?

03:14Really?

03:16The Homer Simpson backing into the hedge.

03:18I know the exact one.

03:19Yeah, so do I.

03:20All too well.

03:21You're not a ghoster.

03:22I wouldn't ghost.

03:23He's giving it the big one.

03:24Giving it the latter.

03:25Ghosting's overrated.

03:26Overrated.

03:27Public proposals.

03:29Ah, this is quite fitting.

03:31I think they're overrated.

03:33What do we think?

03:35When I proposed to Emma, right,

03:37I took her to Venice

03:39and I proposed on the Rialto Bridge.

03:41I was supposed to propose in a restaurant,

03:43but then there was some people from Birmingham

03:44who started talking to me about bust-in

03:46and I thought it wasn't the time.

03:47I found this bridge and I proposed

03:48and I got down on one knee

03:49and Emma looked mortified.

03:51No, he tried to get down on one knee.

03:52Tried to get down.

03:53I tried to get down.

03:53And I grabbed him by his neck

03:54and pulled him back up.

03:55I said, don't you dare.

03:56Not by his neck.

03:57I was going like this, like this.

03:59Yeah.

04:00Because I thought I was either

04:01about to be dumped or proposed to

04:03because he had been so weird the whole trip.

04:05He had barely spoken to me.

04:07He looked panicked

04:08and like he was about to ghost me.

04:10That would be a rogue choice

04:13taking someone to Venice to dump them.

04:14On their birthday.

04:16Oh, yeah.

04:17When was that in your head?

04:19Because you were just acting so odd.

04:21I am a bit odd sometimes.

04:22I'd made it very clear

04:23what engagement ring I wanted.

04:25So he knew.

04:26So we'd had those kind of discussions.

04:27She made me watch

04:28The Princess Diaries 2

04:29and literally at one point

04:32she gets engaged

04:33and she went,

04:34that's the ring I'd like to wear

04:36for my engagement ring.

04:37Wow, okay.

04:37So very subtle.

04:39So I had to screenshot it.

04:40Right, yeah.

04:41What I meant was

04:42don't get down on one knee

04:43because everybody's going to look.

04:45But now I'm a bit more mature.

04:47If ever I see it,

04:48I'm like,

04:49oh, that's so cute.

04:51So underrated.

04:52Oh, wait, underrated?

04:53You've changed your chin.

04:54It's under, yeah,

04:55it's underrated.

04:56I think they're great.

04:57So if you could go back in time,

04:58would you like?

04:59I'd let him do it.

04:59Yep, I'd let him do it.

05:01I'm not doing it again.

05:02Make a grand gesture publicly

05:04in front of everyone.

05:05I'm done.

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