00:00Bueno, es un caso que nuestro amigo Ignacio González Prieto ha sido following.
00:05He fue finalmente identificado.
00:07Sí, es el hombre que fue encontrado en Cerati de la casa de cerca de décadas hace.
00:13Ignacio.
00:14Sí, y es un increíble historia, ¿no?
00:17Typical de una investigación criminal con todas las características que se puede imaginar.
00:22El setting es unthinkable.
00:24We are on Avenida Congreso at 3,742 in the Coghlan neighborhood, an overpopulated neighborhood where there is a characteristic, right?
00:35There are old houses that are being demolished to make way for more modern constructions, but especially buildings.
00:43In the middle of that construction, they demolished this house that Gustavo Cerati, the leader of Soderio, had rented between 2002 and 2003.
00:52But no one imagined, least of all the workers, that on the dividing wall, which is the wall that divides what is now a plot of land, with this house where a family lives that has nothing to do with the story, and now they had to close off the entire land that is already empty, it is already prepared for a future construction and that was authorized by the city government.
01:13On that dividing wall, they found bones, they found 150 bones.
01:24An incomplete skeleton, but we had anticipated it, bones are very noble and provide forensic science, especially forensic anthropology, forensic dentistry and forensic genetics, very important elements to be able to discover identity.
01:39That is why it was a matter of time.
01:45In May they began to study these remains, partners.
01:50The Argentine forensic anthropology team did it, nothing more and nothing less than what they discovered in the drug trafficking graves in Mexico, in the disappeared in Argentina, in the graves of the Balkan War in Europe.
02:03They discovered identities, how could they not discover this case, and they came to an identification, why?
02:12Because among the bones there was a femur, a skull, a hip, and feet, and that allowed them to know very important information about the morphology of the person who had been buried in this place.
02:30Based on the characteristics of the bones, it was known that he was a teenager, that he was a man, that he was of medium height, and that he wore a size 41 shoe.
02:42Well, they began to review records of missing persons, deaths, and kidnappings, and they managed to identify a family based on the male.
02:52With the DNA of the mother, and two siblings, a man and a woman, not the father who died in a traffic accident, they discovered that the person who was here was called Diego.
03:03They have withheld the last name, he was 16 years old, he studied at a school very close to this place on N36, and also played soccer in excursionistas.
03:19And Ignacio, what, could have happened to this kid?
03:23Because the father died without being able to find him.
03:27The truth is that no one knows.
03:29No, no, no, it's not very clear, but prosecutor Lopez Ferrando advanced the story.
03:35That's why the other time we explained that criminology works with two variants.
03:40One is the technical experimental one, which the team of anthropologists actually worked on.
03:45That's already determined.
03:46Now, the technical intellectual one and where this story I'm going to tell you now is going.
03:57On the afternoon of July 26, 1984, this boy returned from school at noon, had lunch with his mother, and told his mother, I need money to take a bus.
04:07He didn't say where he was going, he simply mentioned that he was going to a friend's house.
04:14His mother didn't ask either.
04:15But what was the area, Nacho, where does this area start, quote.
04:19Oh, okay, here, a few blocks from this place, okay.
04:22He lives nearby.
04:23I would say five blocks away, but anyway, he said he was going to take the bus.
04:28The last reference there is to him alive is on the corner of Nayeon and Monroe in the Belgrano neighborhood.
04:34Here we are practically on the border of Belgrano, on the border of Nunez and on the border of Vila Arquisa.
04:39The Coglin neighborhood is not one of the largest neighborhoods in Buenos Aires.
04:44The boy disappears.
04:46At 8.30 at night, his father shows up at the 39th police station.
04:51The police don't pay attention to him.
04:53They tell him, look, we have a record of 4,000 missing people.
04:57He must be with a girl.
04:58Don't worry, quote.
05:00Days began to pass by.
05:02Yes.
05:04The family distributed pamphlets and they appeared in the media.
05:09In the first media outlet, where the famous magazine, Esto, appeared.
05:13It was a magazine about police cases published by Kronika, which sold widely on the street and had many photographs of crimes.
05:20And the father, whose name was Juan Benigno, who was a man who bought and sold cars and also spare parts, told reporters at the time that the police were closing the case, saying that the boy had run away from home.
05:34The father, who died in a traffic accident, left thinking that his son had been kidnapped by a cult.
05:48Of course, and from then on, nothing more was known.
05:52Now members of his family began to suspect that the area where the boy moved in the 80s could be him.
06:00That is why what the anthropologists determined is combined with what I am going to tell you now.
06:09Around the body there were elements that led to this boy.
06:12One of them was the sole of a shoe, a typical shoe that was worn at that time.
06:18At that time, they went to high school with a shirt, blue tie, blue blazer, grey pants, and black shoes.
06:28Well, the shoe was the first element.
06:32The second element, a blue school style tie.
06:35There we see it.
06:37The third item, a Japanese five-lena coin that distracted the investigation a bit.
06:42Some thought it could be an Asian, but in reality many people carry that coin as a lucky charm.
06:53It had an orange floating keychain that was selling a lot at the time and, above all,
06:58it had a calculator-type watch that began to come out in 1982.
07:02Yes, from that time, it
07:04arrived in Argentina two years later and they continued to be sold until the 90s.
07:10Therefore, there was an incomplete body to analyze with 150 bones and, on the other hand,
07:17elements that gave some context as to who it could be.
07:21Well, from there the prosecution is now investigating.
07:26It is known that the last family that was in this house was the last name Graf,
07:31which is a German last name.
07:33German.
07:34That part of the family of the other one that lived in this house currently lives in the city
07:40of Frankfurt, Germany and that now the case from a criminal point of view has prescribed,
07:45that is to say, no one will be able to be charged.
07:50If it is discovered that this is a crime,
07:53a crime, a relationship between this family.
07:56And the boy?
07:57Can I verify if there is any link between them?
08:01No, there was no relationship.
08:04What they believe is that perhaps it was a boy they knew from the neighborhood,
08:08from high school, or from the hiking club.
08:11Now they have to investigate everything.
08:16What happens is that the suspicion here is that there was a crime
08:19because the forensic analysis discovered that the boy died from a stab wound
08:23into one of the floating ribs on the left side of his body.
08:29And that indicates a violent death and therefore a violent death caused by a stab wound.
08:35Of course, so.
08:37Obviously there will.
08:38Have to be a trial of the truth, Ignacio, to find out what happened.
08:42This family deserves to.
08:43Know what happened.
08:45Why was this boy killed?
08:47Yes, absolutely.
08:48Well, we were working all morning trying to find the family
08:53in order to have an account of how the story unfolded.
08:57The family does not appear anywhere.
09:02The justice system has decided to keep the data,
09:06especially the last name of the boy who was identified, confidential.
09:09But anyway, what we anticipated two months ago has been proven.
09:20It has been proven that it has to do precisely with someone who lived here in the area
09:24and who evidently had some type of incident that afternoon in July 1984.
09:29The question is, is this place that we have here a primary crime scene or a secondary scene?
09:34Well, it's going to be very difficult to prove that now.
09:42Why?
09:43Because if I think of a primary scene, everything began, developed and ended here.
09:50Now, if I think of a secondary scene, it's much more complex
09:54because he was probably murdered somewhere else and then transferred here.
09:58Do you know what the problem with all this is?
10:01Yes.
10:01All criminology investigations are based on three backbones.
10:06The occasion, the opportunity and the motive.
10:10And in this case, we have three problems because we don't know what the occasion was.
10:15We don't know what the opportunity was and we don't know what the motive was.
10:19In other words, we don't have the three basic questions.
10:22Dot.
10:23That is to say, for now what we have is the victim's body.
10:26Thank you, Nacho.
10:27For that family, it's a relief anyway, right?
10:29I mean, it's always a relief to know where and how.
10:33I mean, the ghost of where he is.
10:35If he's alive somewhere, this comes.
10:3941 years later.
10:40The investigation will continue and this family deserves it.
10:43Besides, we all want to know who killed this boy beyond the talk of the statute of limitations.
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