00:00Is it a case of appeasement? Is Ursula von der Leyen essentially now a Neville Chamberlain in a confrontation with Donald Trump?
00:08Well, only, that's a very good question, only the future will say whether on this front, and this is one of the many fronts of the transatlantic, very complex and multidimensional relationship, whether on this front and on others, Trump has been sort of appeased.
00:36And we'll move to other topics. Now, one can doubt about this, A, because he himself predicts to be transactional, unpredictable, changing position, like a boxer.
00:53Second, there are other areas like digital regulation, for instance, or financial regulation, where the U.S. could take measures or the EU could take measures that would destabilize further this relationship.
01:11And then, of course, we're always left with this question of whether the NATO Article 5, which says that the U.S. will protect Europe in case the Russian aggression still stands valid, which is, in my view, a very important question mark for the European Union.
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