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Lou Lou Safran is an American singer-songwriter and actress. Her latest singles, “Parallel Lines” and “Cinnamon (On The Rocks)”, are now available.
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00:00good afternoon lulu saffron welcome on vh berries yes very excited
00:17i am extremely grateful because you are a vehement catalyst
00:25handing the best one-way ticket to a soul-steering peregrination through your music and your
00:36depictions and while a typical room has four walls when the saffron music is played it adds
00:48another pair of parallel walls forming an hexagon shaped space how are you doing today
01:00you know what i'm doing pretty good especially after that um i think after this interview i just
01:06have to take you everywhere with me because that was awesome and that's how i always need to be
01:11introduced absolutely this is the best way to be introduced and in this hexagonal
01:24beehive you're often surrounded by a large piano facing the pacific ocean and i truly believe
01:35that those 88 keys spanning just over seven octaves are opening the door for your creativity
01:49dude do you like narrate audiobooks or something because i think that should be your career
01:54i think you're wasted in doing podcasts get into apple studios or whatever start narrating
02:00i should lulu safran consider a path in audiobook voiceover and to come back to the words
02:17the words that i just pronounce can you tell us a little bit more about your connection to piano
02:25my connection to piano is it was the first instrument i started playing um or rather the first instrument
02:35after i quit playing guitar because it it hurt my fingers when i was i was little um so it was kind of the
02:43first instrument i remember really learning and falling in love with and uh i used to go to piano recitals
02:52when i was like you know eight nine ten and playing songs that i should not have been singing as a
03:00nine-year-old i'd get up there and i'd do my alex turner impression from like many mansions vertigo
03:07and i do i i didn't realize at the time i was fully doing the accent fully it sounded like i had just
03:13come off the plane from europe i'm an american child it didn't make sense but um i was doing the impression i
03:20i was playing the keys and i was you know singing about heartbreak and growing old with a lover um
03:27and none of that stuff should have made sense to me at the time but that's how timeless music is and
03:34good lyrics i guess because i was feeling it absolutely lulu safran it all started with the piano and you
03:47also have another lucky charm which is your guitar so true um definitely a good luck charm although
04:00the first time i played my uh first gig at the troubadour the guitar that should have been my lucky
04:07guitar broke on stage and the sound guy told me it was my fault it totally wasn't and then my second
04:15guitar that should have been my second good luck charm also broke on stage and i ended up playing all
04:21of my songs uh on an electric guitar that was my third option and i had never played any of them on
04:27that before um so you know i have a little bit of a rocky relationship with my lucky guitars
04:33you have lulu safran a very special relationship with your guitars and from what i've saw
04:47this is an acoustic guitar and model with a dark sunburst finish featuring ornate floral designs
05:00around the sound hole and the body i wish that that was my guitar this was a special guitar that i got
05:11um to borrow i know which one you're talking about because it was so special i just i played it um
05:18when i i recently did this this uh concert for a fundraiser in poland um and it was on like two days
05:28notice i flew over from london i didn't have my guitar with me and so one of my good friends over
05:33there was like i have something really special that you're gonna want to play and it's um an epiphone
05:38so it it technically isn't like top of the line but it has the most beautiful sound that i have ever
05:47heard in my life i there's like some human souls trapped in there or something not quite sure what it
05:53is it has a voice of its own i've never played a guitar like that so um i hope that since you've
05:59said it's mine uh i will be able to now officially claim it as a guitar that i own
06:07you will lulu safran be able to claim that instrument and for all i know when you flown back
06:18from poland the guitar was not a checked baggage but a supplementary one because it exceeds the carry-on size
06:36so true
06:39i feel like i'm in an old trailer you know where that guy's like lulu safran stars as whatever doing this
06:46thing and and kicking butt that's exactly what i feel like right now i love that you say my full name
06:52every time this is like it's giving me such joy right now
07:01absolutely and i would love to explore uh one of the events in which you were uh one of the headliners
07:12uh at a specific charity events to support all those affected by the posnan floods can you tell us a
07:24little bit more about it yeah i would love to okay now i have to get serious because it's a serious topic
07:30um it was there's been massive flooding over the summer um in all of poland uh not really posnan but um you
07:39know around opola and a lot of other places um mostly to the east uh and i mean it's been disaster after
07:48disaster and uh the polish red cross acted unbelievably quickly and put together this this concert to raise
07:56funds and it was in my hometown of poznan or my second hometown i guess um in poland and it was at our
08:05uh it's called aula universitetska it's the symphony hall and it's this stunning building um and we got
08:13together a bunch of incredible artists i was really really honored to be on that bill um and we put on a
08:21night of great music um everybody you know tried to have fun being good spirits uh despite all the tragedy
08:31and um it it brought a lot of joy and most importantly it brought a lot of funds to the cause which is
08:39really exciting um and we were able to help a lot of people so uh it was definitely one of the the highlights
08:45of of the fall so far
08:47it was one of the highlights of the fall so far lulu safran and it was as you just mentioned a night of
09:00great music because on stage you brought a feeling of grounding security and calmness
09:13which are also the tones naturally naturally associated with cinnamon the name of your penultimate
09:25single very true indeed cinnamon on the rocks baby
09:33cinnamon on the rocks baby and i would love to make a transition with that specific
09:42song can you tell us a little bit more about the story behind it um yeah i would be happy to um
09:54cinnamon on the rocks what is the story behind it well
10:02it's the hard-hitting questions
10:04uh well i i wrote it because i watched um the kristoff kieślowski movie double life of veronique
10:14uh which is mostly in french actually so up your alley um and in the movie uh a lot of it is is told
10:26because it's very languid it has the slow shots i'm i'm one of those insufferable film people who are
10:31like i really like the the dolly shot and whatever but it's true it's and its use of lighting is just
10:39exquisite it's so perfect and and you start to feel the character's emotions even less through
10:46the acting and the portrayals and more through the super vibrant uh lights and a lot of scenes are
10:53are super yellow or super blue and um i thought it was funny how how much one associates colors with
11:04emotions um because it's it's it's such a silly thing that to see something so visual and be like
11:11wow that's the color of sad um but it's true you really do feel it and so i thought it would be
11:18interesting to explore that in a song um and the song itself is you know probably about some breakup
11:25as a lot of them are absolutely lulu safran in that piece of art you were associating some colors with
11:39emotions and i believe that the song could also have been named cinnamon on the rocks with my whole
11:51tribe of ants because this is what we see in the video clip so true oh my gosh i forgot about the ants
12:03yeah you know what you're right forget about yeah that's not my love story it's the ant love story
12:09that is exactly what it is yeah 100 percent totally aren't ants colorblind too i feel like
12:19i i there's some fun fact that they can't quite see color so now it's a tragedy too they wish that
12:25they could experience life and the full spectrum of emotions and colors but they can't because they're
12:32just little ants they are just little ants lulu safran and if they are colorblind it means that they cannot
12:48witness and fully appreciate the work that whether your stylist or yourself did with that stylish bohemian
13:00inspired outfit thank you that uh i will take the credit for that um i i found it it's it's a it's a
13:10beautiful uh old that i think it was supposed to be a dress um but it never quite got finished and i found
13:19it uh in my mom's closet actually so um i'm very diy in my music videos um so i i i threw some stuff together and
13:29went to my favorite place and went to my favorite place ever which is the california desert uh i think
13:35that one was in joshua tree um but yeah it was a great shoot it was really fun i think
13:47hmm oh i'm thinking about feel your love sorry um i just love the desert too much i have too many desert music videos
13:55cinnamon uh that was also me not a stylist um but what was cinnamon that was in the mojave and
14:06it was springtime uh so it was the perfect weather to be shooting a uh music video and because of that
14:13i thought that all music videos in the desert must be so easy and fun to shoot because it's it's such
14:19pleasant terrain and then i went back to film uh feel your love in the middle of the summer and it
14:26was it had to have been 120 degrees something insane um where you can see on the music video
14:35you can totally see it that i am so hot my face is so red and it was the most exhausting day ever
14:43and at the same time it's my favorite music video because it was the best day we'd take like 10 minute
14:49breaks in between shooting in the car with the ac on full blast because we were in the middle of nowhere
14:54um and it's it's it's one of my favorite stories it was the best
15:01it was one of your favorite stories lulu safran and if i understood correctly you picked in the family
15:13closet that light beige pisan style blues embellished with floral embroidery on the sleeves and you also just
15:27mentioned the desert because that video clip was indeed filmed in that location which is an ideal place
15:39to launch satellites and rockets because as you sing in aquarium everyone wants to be an astronaut
15:51so this is true yeah um everybody does want to be an astronaut i actually i wrote that and then realized
16:00i didn't hold on let me explain because this is actually fun you bring up one of my favorite things
16:06which is the bridge of aquarius um everybody wants to be an astronaut technically yes but also i think
16:13i'd be terrible at that because i get really carsick um so that actually that's a line from um
16:21one of my favorite bands of all time royal republic um and they have a song called everybody wants to
16:28be an astronaut killer song so good um and this aquarius is is written about uh somebody who's really
16:38close to me and so that bridge is um has a bunch of references to our favorite songs um so there's
16:48everybody wants to be an astronaut oh smooth sailing starts with smooth sailing by queens of the stone age
16:55uh it's always within not without is 12 foot ninja this um australian metal band they rock they are so cool
17:07and they are like genre bending in every song um but that's from their song coming for you which combines
17:14hard rock heavy metal with like bossa nova or or samba or something i don't know it it's awesome
17:23and looking too closely but we'll figure it out this is my favorite i've always wanted to talk about this
17:29bridge it's always with looking too closely but we'll figure it out is is looking too closely by fink uh
17:36also an amazing song by an incredible artist and then la pièce de la résistance everybody wants to be
17:42an astronaut royal republic my favorite our favorite um and we came full circle because i went with my
17:51aquarius and got to see them live twice or three times last summer uh in europe so i was on the
18:01barrier i even was featured in one of the the concert videos where where they show the mosh pit uh
18:09some of the best moments of my life were had in that mosh pit for sure and um i just had to mention it in
18:16the song you absolutely had lulu safran to mention that event in the aquarium song and it is my personal
18:31favorite uh song from uh yours and the video clip is directed by michael jaguero can you tell us a little
18:44bit more about choosing in his own words the finest sunsets of the year
18:55um yes michael jaguero amazing um polish cinematographer and director uh it was it was great to be able to
19:06film with him i think uh it was less choosing the best sunset of the year and it was actually
19:13we are so lucky and um it was fate that we just happened to get the perfect sunset i think is what
19:21it is i think he's a little more practical about it um he's he's i guess big into science about choosing
19:28the right day but um no i'm pretty sure it was the magnetic pull of the earth or whatever and
19:38and spiritually we were guided to the perfect sunset it really was it was um we were shooting it in a
19:45field outside of poznan um and i got eaten alive by mosquitoes which is my least favorite thing but um
19:55it was definitely worth it because it's one of my favorite videos uh he's incredibly talented and it was
20:00really fun sort of getting to uh direct with him and and shoot it and um run around in a field for a
20:11bunch of hours honestly what is better than that absolutely lulu safran we cannot find anything better
20:19than running in the field and i am wondering what do you think is the most fulfilling in creating your own music
20:35that's a really good question
20:39what is the most fulfilling
20:43well
20:44mostly i love the attention
20:50um but other than that
20:53uh
20:56i think you know songwriting for me is is definitely uh very therapeutic and it sort of lets me take a
21:06step back and distance myself from whatever i have going on and and sort of be able to look at it from
21:12a different perspective
21:14um so it's it's nice to sort of be able to
21:17compartmentalize feelings like that
21:20um but also
21:24music is is such an enormous part of my life and it always has been i just i love listening to it so much
21:30i love seeing it played live
21:31um that
21:33being able to sort of add
21:36my own
21:37creations
21:38uh to the endless
21:40amount of music is really special it kind of feels like i'm i'm plugging into something that
21:45is so much bigger than myself and um
21:48i'm doing the same things that all of my heroes were doing even though they're they were probably
21:53doing it way better and um
21:57yeah i just i love getting into that creative headspace and
22:01something that i used to not like but now i quite do
22:04um i recorded a lot of these songs that have been released so far i wrote a lot of them
22:12sort of in between the ages of
22:15you know 12 and and 16
22:18um
22:19so i was in a very specific headspace and a lot of it was during the pandemic
22:24um so i wrote very honestly what i was feeling at the time and now i get to look back on it
22:32and uh
22:34first i hate it i hate all the lyrics and all the songs i'm like this is so stupid why would i ever
22:38write this but
22:40um
22:41it's it's really special to get to look back on on the things that i was feeling how i was expressing them
22:47um and sort of get to create new songs that are released old ones i don't know it's it's special to
22:57have like a time stamp
23:02in definitive it is essential to have a time stamp lulu safran and
23:10you're indeed also adding your own cinnamon brick on the building and also being smart because
23:22people are watching your horror movies and they can then afterwards seek some comfort with your song
23:34you are both the discomfort and the relief
23:39you're so right oh my gosh you're
23:43recombobulating my my whole life perspective right now honestly
23:47um you're so right the comfort and the discomfort it's all me that's just you know that's what they
23:54all say about me is that i'm the discomfort and also the comfort but also i think i need to add
23:59more discomfort to the mix i'm gonna start making heavy metal for sure um i i want to freak people
24:06out on screen and in their headphones i think absolutely lulu safran this is a good idea to start
24:15a heavy metal career and i would love to explore your parallel journey as an actress on the seals
24:29over lenticular screen can you tell us a little bit more about it um i mean what is there to tell
24:42you can see it all um it's uh let's see what do i tell what do i reveal what do i reveal
24:53you know i act as well i love it uh i've i've i've been doing it for for about as long as i've
25:02been doing music uh which is forever i popped out of the womb doing an accent and and a little irish jig
25:09um so i i definitely couldn't have one without the other that's what they always ask they're like
25:17would you do you want to do music or do you want to do film i have to have both there i couldn't live
25:23with without either one um and i love doing both at the same time because music uh for me is is sort
25:34of more of a solitary thing at least where i am right now because i write and produce all of the songs
25:39myself um so there isn't that much room for collaboration um until i start recording you
25:48know with some incredible instrumentalists that um play on my songs um but the film is the complete
25:58opposite end of the spectrum where uh yes there is you know the solitary journey i guess of figuring
26:04out what you're doing with your character but it's this incredible buzzing environment of
26:12a billion people who are all who all have a ridiculously hyper specific job that are all
26:18coming together in this creative space to to make one big project um and it is so special to to have
26:26the two sides of the coin where i get to sort of hide in my room and uh make songs alone and then i get
26:32to come out on this set and have this incredible example of teamwork so yeah having those two extremes
26:46with both making your own music in a bedroom but also attending those sets with billions of people
26:58and a good story points lulu safran would be the annabelle creation and annabelle comes home movies
27:11they're good movies
27:15those are good movies can you tell us a little bit more about the beginning and the evolution of that
27:24horror adventure the beginning and the evolution i was so young at the beginning how old was i i i i think
27:35i was 10 when we shot annabelle creation so um a good eight years ago oh almost nine um
27:44um so i can't say i i remember that much from the very very beginning but the summer i spent on set
27:55i will remember forever um the the film is about a group of uh of orphans orphan girls that are all
28:04in the around the same age so uh i we formed a little family on set and i am still such good friends
28:13with all of those girls and and uh taylor buck who was technically my best friend in the film is one of
28:22my bestest friends in real life to this day uh so very special um we we try and scare people a little
28:30less in real life these days uh but you know every now and again you have a little fun with it uh so
28:39and then the evolution well i was lucky enough to come back um and and have a have a scene in in
28:46annabelle comes home uh which is the third of the the trilogy um and
28:55yeah it was it was it stands out and my mind is like one of the best opportunities and experiences of
29:03my life it was one of the most changing experience of your journey loulou safran
29:16and we can now say that those 14 hours screen time felt like two
29:29you're right actually i hope not i hope that my
29:33two hours of screen time in annabelle felt like 14. that's what i hope
29:38absolutely we hope the complete opposite of the lyrics of your latest single that is called
29:51parallel lines and i would love to explore that new song that came up within the last week can you tell us
30:03a little bit more about it i would love to actually um so my song parallel lines it came out uh yeah a
30:16little a week ago a little over a week ago i'm not sure but um time doesn't exist but uh it's a special
30:25song to me it really is and i had sort of it felt unfinished for a very long time and uh like a week
30:34before releasing it i was like oh my god i know what it needs it needs slide guitar so that is what
30:40we added um i i went to this uh incredible instrumentalist slide guitar player in in poland
30:48and i was like please please please please please can you record this for me and please please please can
30:52you do it immediately because i have no time i have to put it out um and he said yes luckily
30:59and uh he recorded the beautiful melody um and i worked with him on it and and suddenly i heard the song
31:09and it was like a completely new track um and i i was i was so happy uh with with how it came out
31:16and it's sort of you know it's it's it's hardly country but it's it's it's a wave towards americana
31:24at least and um americana and country and and folk rock of like the 70s it's that's all such a
31:33big inspiration to me or at least it was on this album um so getting to have that little taste on it
31:40uh on the song was really exciting um and i uh i wrote the song for my dad's birthday actually
31:51because i am very bad with gifts and i always think of it too late and the one thing i can do
31:57really best is write a song um so uh i it was it was for him it was for his birthday which which i think
32:09is a little mean because i do complain about him a little bit i think in the song uh but i wrap it
32:15up nicely i think um and yeah i i'm pretty proud of the track and i've also been playing it live
32:23recently and it sort of takes on a life of its own uh so i'm a big parallel lines fan now
32:29in conclusion parallel lines was a birthday gift for your father and i am looking forward to see you
32:43maybe one day do the first part at the arctic monkeys concert with maybe alexander david
32:54turner which is your favorite band and group thank you very much lulu safran definitely definitely one
33:03of my my favorite bands um there are so many now that i i can i can hardly uh keep track maybe
33:11yeah listen with the i'm already working on the second album because i i love it so much i i can't
33:17stop for one second making more songs all the time and um i think as much as i like parallel lines uh
33:27the next stuff is is gonna be a little a little heavier uh i'm thinking maybe i do parallel lines
33:34with alex turner and then go play the second album with with mike patten
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