00:00As the government and the opposition get set to discuss the Pehelgaam terror attack and Operation Sindur,
00:09the victims, the families, they are looking at how India responds to Pakistan and the world when it comes to that terror attack.
00:20Shubham Dvivedi was a 31-year-old businessman from Kanpur.
00:24He'd been married to Aishanya Dvivedi on the 12th of February this year.
00:29And Shubham was sadly shot dead by these terrorists in Pehelgaam.
00:34The couple were in Kashmir, along with nine family members.
00:38This was a week-long holiday.
00:40They'd visited Sonmarg, they'd visited Gulmarg and then they reached Pehelgaam.
00:45And Aishanya had recounted how they sought help from locals in Kashmir,
00:50asking them to escort her elderly parents to safety.
00:54But they refused.
00:55They said, we are not your horsemen.
00:59And they did not help.
01:01Aishanya Dvivedi now joins me on this special broadcast.
01:05And Aishanya, thank you very much for speaking to India today.
01:09When this debate happens in Parliament,
01:12what is it that you would want our members of Parliament to discuss
01:18when it comes to the Pehelgaam terror attack and Operation Sindhoor?
01:23Are there questions in your mind, Aishanya?
01:25The first question is what they are doing and what they will do about the terrorists.
01:34Because it is something which is eating India, eating the world.
01:39And it's growing like something.
01:42It's growing every day.
01:44It's growing in every corner of the world.
01:47And we need to come together to do something about it.
01:49First is that.
01:51And the second, what are they doing about the 26 people?
01:54As you also know, as I have been telling it out loud everywhere,
01:58that I want a martyr, martyr symbol for him.
02:05But here I request that, and I also am waiting for the day,
02:10they'll give some respect.
02:12They'll honor the 26 people.
02:14They honor these 26 men who died.
02:17They honor these 26 Indian, these 26 Hindus who actually died due to this terrorist attack.
02:27And third, they should do something against Pakistan.
02:30Pakistan, now it's high time Pakistan should stop anything against India.
02:36They should be scared as hell to do anything,
02:40to even think about anything doing against India.
02:44They should do something like that.
02:45But when you have a former home minister of India,
02:49when he says, where is proof that this was Pakistan?
02:54It could be homegrown terrorists.
02:56Or when some congress leader says,
02:58were terrorists airdropped?
02:59Were they airlifted?
03:00What does that mean in your mind?
03:03Are we giving a clean chit to Pakistan?
03:06Are some people in our country giving a clean chit to Pakistan?
03:10I don't know why.
03:12When it comes to terrorists, everybody say it's Pakistan.
03:15But there are few people in our own country.
03:19I don't want to say that it's political things.
03:22It's this or that.
03:23Coming down, it's India.
03:25It's one nation thing.
03:27If somebody is doing this, saying we...
03:31They asked that there.
03:32Are you Hindu?
03:32Are you Muslim?
03:34They did that.
03:35And also, there are few Pakistan terrorist camps.
03:40I don't actually know the right names.
03:43They are taking the responsibility of this.
03:46Still, there are few people in India who are saying,
03:48it's not Pakistan.
03:49Give a proof.
03:50When this will happen with them,
03:52I think then they will get the proof.
03:54I think then they will understand,
03:56yeah, it is a terrorist attack
03:58and it has been done by Pakistan.
04:01Does it hurt you?
04:02Waiting for this to happen.
04:03It hurts.
04:04It hurts like something.
04:05When somebody says,
04:07how can somebody from their own country do this?
04:10No.
04:11It's them.
04:12It's Pakistanis.
04:13They are doing it.
04:14Terrorism means Pakistan.
04:18You're absolutely right.
04:20Terrorism means Pakistan.
04:22And India is a victim of terrorism from Pakistan for decades.
04:25It's surprising that we have leaders who...
04:27And still people come and say this.
04:28Still people come and say it.
04:30It's a give proof.
04:32How to give a proof?
04:33This is a big proof.
04:34It's been done to 26 people.
04:36We are speaking it.
04:37It is a proof.
04:39That is true.
04:40You've suffered.
04:41You were there.
04:42You saw what happened to Shubham.
04:45And yet we have people, you know, who speak like that.
04:48Does this then end up helping Pakistan?
04:50Instead of taking hard action against Pakistan,
04:52instead of entire country speaking in one voice,
04:55does India look divided, Aishanya, to you?
04:59Look, right now,
05:00I know that the actual leaders who are standing,
05:04they are the ones who are standing against Pakistan.
05:08The people who are saying these things,
05:09their voice will not even matter.
05:12What kind of a debate would you want in parliament?
05:18What would you want to come out of this parliamentary debate
05:21so that Pakistan knows it dare not attack a country?
05:24Or what is it that you want, Aishanya?
05:27Whatever debate it should be,
05:29it should not be political first,
05:32which I really request.
05:34It is not politics.
05:35It is Indian.
05:36It is us.
05:37It is us, as a nation,
05:39we should stand united.
05:41It is very important to realize
05:43that the 26 people died there.
05:45These 26 people are martyr.
05:48They need to understand.
05:49They need to talk about this.
05:50They need to talk about the respect
05:52they want to give to these 26 people.
05:55We as a family are sitting at our home
05:57with all the hopes
05:59that they will give some respect.
06:00They will come out and say,
06:02yes, we respect these 26 people
06:04and this, this, this,
06:05we are doing for them.
06:08And when this happened on the 22nd of April
06:11and then when the Indian armed forces,
06:14they went and hit nine terror training camps,
06:17including at Bahawalpur and Mureed K.
06:20I am sure you were watching it on television.
06:22I am sure you heard of it.
06:23What went through your mind and heart
06:25that time, Aisha, Nia?
06:27I have always, always had faith in Indian Army.
06:33Our army is very, very strong.
06:35If they go there,
06:38they can finish Pakistan in seconds.
06:41I have that much trust in our Indian Army.
06:43What they did,
06:44they were very much devastated
06:47after the incident.
06:49I even had word with two, three army members
06:52right after the incident.
06:53They were so angry.
06:55They were so angry.
06:57And they did it.
06:58They showed it to us.
07:00They did their part.
07:01Now it's the government.
07:03Now it's the,
07:04it's this nation who needs to do their part.
07:07They need to,
07:08they need to show that,
07:10yes, these 26 lives matter.
07:12They will do something with the,
07:14for the people.
07:15Because now,
07:17what is happening nowadays
07:18is that people forget.
07:20People are forgetting.
07:21Sadly.
07:23And I don't want,
07:24don't want anyone.
07:25Why am I,
07:26I do not have this much courage
07:28that I come up every time
07:29on a camera and talk.
07:31I'm not somebody who speaks.
07:33I'm not somebody who is,
07:34who has been known to this.
07:36But I'm coming,
07:37because I don't want people to forget this.
07:39I don't want people to forget Pahlgaam.
07:41I don't want people to forget Shubham.
07:44He is a martyr
07:45and a people should say it.
07:47I'm just waiting for the government
07:49to do something.
07:50I'm waiting for the day
07:51to get over with a relax
07:53that, yes,
07:54something good came out of this debate.
07:56Something for the people
07:57came out of this debate.
07:59And when,
08:01you know,
08:01so when we were reporting
08:02Operation Sindur,
08:04first,
08:06it was the targeting
08:06of nine terrorist training camps
08:08including at Muridki and Bahawalpur
08:10and then when Pakistan
08:11tried to hit back,
08:13the targeting of
08:1311 Pakistani air bases
08:15including the use
08:16of BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles
08:18or targeting of,
08:20you know,
08:21their main air bases,
08:23Noor Khan,
08:23Raheem Yahr Khan,
08:24Rafiki,
08:26you know,
08:26Mushaf,
08:27Bolari,
08:27in Sindh.
08:30Did that,
08:31in your view,
08:32send across that message
08:34to Pakistan
08:34that India
08:35will hit terror
08:36at source?
08:38It did.
08:39It did.
08:40And the best thing is
08:42I'm really proud
08:44that I'm an Indian.
08:45I'm really proud
08:46that I am home
08:49and there's Indian army
08:51standing there.
08:53They will protect us.
08:54The way they respond
08:56to every single,
08:57every single drone,
08:59every single attack
09:00from Pakistan,
09:02this is how you fight.
09:04This is the way
09:05you should fight,
09:06not by killing
09:07the innocent.
09:08Pakistan,
09:09they are losers.
09:11Actually,
09:11my words,
09:12they are losers.
09:13They do not know
09:14how to do it.
09:15They do not know
09:16that,
09:17in Hindi,
09:19they call Kair.
09:20Kair is Pakistan.
09:22I agree.
09:23That's why
09:24our country
09:26attacks
09:26those people
09:27who are
09:29who are
09:29doing there.
09:31We are
09:31going to go
09:32there,
09:32going to go
09:33there,
09:33going to go
09:33there.
09:34You attack
09:34there,
09:35you attack
09:35and you attack
09:35and you attack
09:36you.
09:36No big
09:37Kair is not.
09:38If you have to fight,
09:39you fight like this,
09:39come and fight so
09:40you fight like that.
09:41You fight like this.
09:42You fight like that.
09:42You fight like that.
09:44They will not know
09:44that they will save it.
09:45They will not know
09:46that Indian army will
09:46leave it.
09:47But today, my question is just that the debate is happening in India, whatever is going to
10:01happen, I don't know, but I am still having a faith that something good will come out
10:07of this.
10:08We are standing, we are standing for martyrs and I want something good to come out of this,
10:24some respect, something.
10:25We as family are waiting.
10:27And when there is a rule, there is a pain?
10:30Or when Pakistan is given clean shit, there is a pain?
10:33It feels bad?
10:34Absolutely sir, why not?
10:37Maybe this has happened with them, that's why they don't understand them.
10:41Maybe they will understand when someone will go to their house.
10:45And I am saying that, sir, because I don't want anyone to become the next Shubham Divedi.
10:50I don't want anyone to know that someone will come back from 26 years.
10:54I don't want that now there will be a terrorist attack in India.
10:58That's why I am saying that.
10:59I don't have any strength in my mind, but my reason is that this terrorism should stop.
11:07What would you do to do again?
11:10Does Pakistan have a threat?
11:11We would have to die again and get to kill that threat?
11:14Sir, this is absolutely not.
11:18But we do strategically, which is the right thing.
11:22We do in India, we understand some things.
11:25We, you and me are a smaller part of it.
11:28The Indian army is a bigger part of it.
11:30They know when to attack, what to do, what strategies they have to make.
11:36And accordingly, they do it.
11:37I am not going to question them.
11:39I am never going to question Indian Army.
11:42They selflessly do it.
11:45So if they have made some decisions about stopping or stopping after stopping, or whatever it is, I am standing with them.
11:52I am standing with Indian Army.
11:54All the armed forces.
11:56They will do.
11:57I have met so many army people.
12:06They don't like it.
12:08They are very angry.
12:11They have that aggression in them that they can finish Pakistan.
12:14They do not like us.
12:17They do not like any Indian going through this.
12:20Do you have a message for Prime Minister Narendra Modi?
12:22I believe you have spoken to him also about Operation Sindur.
12:27Do you have a message?
12:27Yes, sir.
12:29I just want to request two things.
12:32There is no message, just two requests.
12:34First, do something bigger and a bigger picture against terrorism.
12:40And second, I am waiting in my house with a confidence that for these people, for Shubham Devedi, something good will come out of today's debate.
12:51The respect we as family want for Shubham, the respect the nation want for Shubham, the respect the world want for Shubham, these 26 people.
13:01I am waiting.
13:03I am just waiting today.
13:04I hope you do not have to wait much longer.
13:08There are some who say that, you know, we are not playing bilateral cricket with Pakistan.
13:13But if there is a multilateral cricket, Asia Cup, World Cup, we will have to play with Pakistan.
13:21What do you think?
13:23Why do you have to play?
13:24Who has said you have to play?
13:25I mean, are they doing it to you in a gunpoint?
13:29Are they doing it?
13:30We had a gunpoint.
13:33You are not playing cricket at your gunpoint.
13:35You can play.
13:37You should play anything with Pakistan.
13:41And if they don't do it, it's a disrespect for these 26 people.
13:46It's a disrespect for the nation.
13:50I don't think anything comes before the nation.
13:53You cannot play a big-court cricket for Shubham.
13:58What is this?
13:58Playing with our own emotions?
14:01This is wrong.
14:03I've heard this news and I am boycotting this.
14:07And I want every one of you guys to stand up against this.
14:12All the nations should come up and stand against this.
14:15Boycott India-Pakistan match.
14:17They should, in the first hand, they should have also only boycotted it.
14:21They should have taken that stand that we will not play with Pakistan.
14:25They've hurt us.
14:27We don't want to do anything with them.
14:29And in cricket, we have so much power that we should actually have Pakistan out of ICC.
14:34At least that should be India's effort.
14:36You should try to do it in your view?
14:38Exactly, sir.
14:40Exactly.
14:40You should try to do it in your view.
14:41You should try to do it in your view.
14:46Right?
14:47You should try to do it in your view.
14:48What you have done in your view?
14:48I don't know what will it's it's very very hurtful it's very hurtful
15:18Aishanya you joined me on India today and I I'm very grateful to you for speaking to us here
15:27and I know it's very tough but I know you're fighting for a bigger cause you're fighting
15:32to ensure that we Indians are safe from Pakistan state-sponsored radical Islamist terror
15:38thank you very much Aishanya for joining me here thank you thank you so much on India today
