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00:00You purchased tickets from the defendant, sent her money.
00:03Never got the tickets.
00:06You have proof to me that you sent her the money?
00:08Yes, ma'am.
00:10And she sent you no tickets?
00:12Correct.
00:12Yes.
00:13Can I explain why I did it?
00:15I'm waiting for your story.
00:17Make it one that this face is going to believe and understand.
00:20This is Judy Justice.
00:30We'll see you next time.
01:00That's a mouthful.
01:06Oku Mamboa.
01:08Mwa Boa.
01:09How about O?
01:10Yeah, that works, Jackie.
01:12Does that work for you?
01:13Yes, ma'am.
01:14Okay.
01:15Miss O, tell me about this concert you wanted to attend.
01:18It is a music festival.
01:21It's called Rolling Loud.
01:22They have different locations.
01:25Basically, once the state started lifting their quarantine orders,
01:29the one in Miami was the first one that occurred.
01:33So that happened in July of this year, 2021.
01:36And that was the concert you wanted to attend?
01:38That was the concert I wanted to attend.
01:41According to your complaint, you purchased tickets from the defendant, sent her money.
01:45She never sent her tickets.
01:46She says you never sent her the money.
01:47That's what the case is about.
01:49How did you locate the tickets?
01:52What do you mean by locate the tickets?
01:54If I want tickets to, I don't go to music festivals.
01:58I'm much too old for music festivals.
02:01But if I wanted theater tickets, I'd call the box office, ticket agent.
02:07But I know that young people do things differently today.
02:10Their lives and their worlds are all tied up in the Internet.
02:15Mm-hmm.
02:16So just to educate myself.
02:18Okay.
02:18So there's a lot of ways to purchase tickets.
02:21You can either go to the hosting website, which is the Rolling Loud.
02:25You can also go through third parties' website.
02:28And then the one I...
02:30How do you get to the third party website?
02:33You can Google.
02:34You just go to the website.
02:36And depending on what concert you want to go to, you can just type it in, and it will pull up, like, pricings.
02:42And that way, people who want to sell their tickets, I'm able to see them, and I can pay for them, and then have them get sent to me.
02:49Is that what you did with the defendant?
02:50No.
02:51What I did, and I was going to...
02:53So eliminate number one and number two.
02:56Yes.
02:56So I went the route of joining a private group via Facebook.
03:00And what's the name of the private group?
03:02Rolling Loud.
03:02Okay, Rolling Loud.
03:04Yes.
03:05I'd just like to see what that looks like, if it still exists.
03:08Sure.
03:08It does.
03:09It does?
03:09Yes.
03:10Just so that I understand it.
03:11Yeah, no, that's fine.
03:12You can always learn something.
03:14Yeah.
03:15So it looks like there's a couple different groups.
03:18The one she's talking about is a private group, but it looks like a few of them have been taken down since then, since the event has already happened.
03:24Right, that's what I thought.
03:25But could I just take a look and see what it looks like?
03:28Sure.
03:28So this is the official Facebook page.
03:33And then you can go to who else is following this page, that many people.
03:37And they create their own private groups in order to exchange tickets or sell them.
03:41Okay.
03:42And is that how you found the defendant?
03:44Yes.
03:44On what date?
03:45I believe my first day of talking with her was June 4th.
03:49I don't know that...
03:49Speaking to her over the Internet or...
03:51Over the Internet, through Facebook, yes.
03:53I responded to her Facebook post.
03:55She had mentioned she had two VIP...
03:58Do you have that Facebook post?
04:00I don't have the Facebook post.
04:03I just have the messages that me and her exchanged.
04:06May I see it?
04:06Yes, you may.
04:09Where do you live, by the way, Ms. O?
04:11I stay in Monterey Park, California.
04:14And you?
04:15St. Louis, Missouri.
04:26What was wrong with your car, Ms. Walker?
04:28I was having transmission issues, or what I thought at the time was transmission issues.
04:33How did that manifest itself?
04:35Just, it wasn't running properly.
04:36How do you think I knew you were having car trouble?
04:38Because it was in the messages.
04:39No, your messages are deleted.
04:41Okay.
04:42Hers aren't.
04:43You can't delete her messages, but you deleted yours.
04:45Yes, ma'am.
04:46So how do you think I know you had car trouble?
04:48I'm not quite sure.
04:49It might have been something that I wrote in the Rolling Loud chat that I was having car troubles,
04:54and that's why I was trying to sell tickets.
04:56Oh.
04:56That I'm not 100% sure.
04:57No.
04:58I'm only looking at the text messages.
05:00Hers that you didn't delete, but yours that you did delete.
05:04Mm-hmm.
05:04I want you to dwell on that for a moment before you give me the next couple of answers.
05:10How did I know that you were having car trouble when you purposely deleted all your messages to her?
05:19I don't know.
05:20I understand that you don't know.
05:23I want you to think about how I knew you had car trouble with your car when you don't say it in here.
05:31Think about that.
05:32Okay.
05:32I hope it makes you uncomfortable for the next couple of minutes.
05:40So you were going to go with a friend, and each of you were paying half of the money.
05:45The two tickets were $1,500, which the defendant needed to pay for her car.
05:51Correct.
05:51Which wasn't working.
05:52As yet.
05:53You have proof to me that you sent her the money for the ticket?
05:56I sure do.
05:57I'd like to see it.
05:59So I made my payments via Cash App.
06:01I also have her confirmation of her sending me the money, and then I sent the whole.
06:06I see it.
06:07Okay.
06:07Your texts to her.
06:09Mm-hmm.
06:10You got your money first, and you were waiting for your friends.
06:13Sent your friends.
06:15She was at work.
06:16She'd be home in 15 minutes.
06:18Correct.
06:18Yes.
06:19Yes.
06:19Okay, now I'm waiting for your story.
06:33Make it a good one, Miss Walker.
06:35Make it one that this face that knew you were having car trouble is going to believe and understand.
06:39I met her through the Facebook group, like she mentioned.
06:43We messaged for probably about a week, I will say, just back and forth.
06:48We talked about her sending me the money.
06:49I am aware that her friend was going to send me the other half.
06:52We talked about the address that I was supposed to send the tickets to, all this other stuff.
06:56She never sent me the money, and that's why nothing came of it.
06:59Explain to me why you deleted your texts.
07:02Because she was someone that I wasn't talking to anymore.
07:07There was...
07:07I want anybody to raise their hand if they've ever just deleted their portion of a conversation,
07:21leaving only the dialogue of the other person.
07:25Look around.
07:27And later today...
07:29Oh, well, there is a caveat here.
07:31May I say something?
07:32No, no, no.
07:33No, no, no.
07:34He wasn't truthful to me.
07:36You asked me if you can say something.
07:38I said no.
07:39What part of no didn't you understand?
07:52Jacqueline Okumabwa claims ticket seller Raven Walker is responsible for the cost of music festival tickets she never received.
08:01What I want to know is, say to myself, self.
08:06Why would I go through the trouble of just deleting my answers to somebody's texts?
08:17Why would I do that?
08:18We're going to do a survey here, Miss Walker.
08:21Okay.
08:22We have a gallery.
08:23We have four people here.
08:25I know this person intimately.
08:27I know that she uses her machine to communicate with the majority of the world.
08:32I don't know about Whitney that much.
08:35She's a tad older, but still uses the Internet.
08:38Kevin, I'm not so sure how often he uses the Internet.
08:43I feel like he'd rather be puttering around this house, fixing things, but maybe once in a while.
08:51And I don't know about the people here, but I see a lot of young people.
08:54I want anybody to raise their hand if they've ever just deleted their portion of a conversation that they've had with somebody.
09:06Just their portion of the conversation, leaving only the dialogue of the other person.
09:12Has anybody ever done that?
09:15Look around.
09:17Not a soul.
09:19Do you know why?
09:20Can I explain why I did it?
09:21You just told me why you did it.
09:23You want to read back to me, Whitney, why she told me she did it?
09:28Just not logical.
09:30Right?
09:30You're deleting the whole conversation.
09:32Yeah, delete the whole conversation, maybe.
09:35So you asked her, explain to me why you deleted your text.
09:39She said, because she was someone that I wasn't talking to anymore.
09:42That's exactly right.
09:43Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of, you sent $1,500?
09:47Yes, I did.
09:48$1,500.
09:49And she sent you no tickets?
09:50She sent me no tickets.
09:51We're done.
09:52Thank you very much.
09:53Court is adjourned.
09:55She didn't send me any money, so it sucks that I have to give her something that I didn't receive.
10:00Judge Judy, she saw the receipts for herself, so.
10:02My transactions for my Cash App, there was nothing ever sent on that day.
10:06There was nothing ever sent, period.
10:07Unfortunately, you got to reap what you sow at some point, right?
10:09Did you ever buy anything from a private person on the Internet?
10:15I personally have not.
10:16I'll buy them direct from the website, as she was mentioning.
10:20I've used those, but never just on Facebook or Craigslist or anything like that.
10:24If you buy from a private person, what recourse do you have if you don't get the merchandise that you've agreed to?
10:31Honestly, that's why I don't do it.
10:32I don't believe there really is one.
10:34And I think that someone who wants to get around the system and potentially scam people, that's the easiest way to do it.
10:39I remember one case we had years and years ago, Sarah.
10:43Somebody advertising had a photo of the most current iPhone with a price, and the plaintiff sent the money for the phone and, in return, got the photograph of the phone.
10:56I've seen many stories like that.
10:58That was the case.
10:59And she said, well, that's what I was selling.
11:02It was a photograph of a phone.
11:03I said, this is a cautionary tale to anybody who purchases things from unknown people where you have no recourse.
11:12I agree.
11:13Cage number 1166, David versus Paws.
11:17Please step forward.
11:18Sherman Davis is suing furniture stager Julio Paws for storage fees and the cost of furniture.
11:26Mr. Davis, let me see if I can briefly state what I believe your cause of action is.
11:31I believe your cause of action is in contract.
11:33Now, you own a property.
11:35Some three years ago, you asked the defendant, who was in the business of staging with furniture, properties for the purposes of being either sold or rented, you asked him to stage an eight-room property.
11:47And you signed a contract, and the defendant did, in fact, stage a property that you wanted to rent.
11:55So far correct?
11:56You have to say this is both video and audio, so you can't...
12:00Yes.
12:01Yes.
12:01Good.
12:02What?
12:02It's a small misunderstanding there in the sense that I sold it to him.
12:06I didn't stage it.
12:07Do you have a contract?
12:08Yeah, he...
12:09All right.
12:10I'm surprised you don't have a copy of this contract.
12:12You're in business.
12:13Oh, I have it right here.
12:14So you have it on your phone?
12:15Yeah.
12:15Yeah.
12:15It would have been nice if you printed it out so that you had it.
12:18That would have been smart, because you're dealing with somebody who is not a millennial who likes to see things that I can touch, that I can bang.
12:26If it's in the phone, I don't have it.
12:27If it's in the phone, I don't have it.
12:29In any event, you signed the contract, you staged it.
12:32That was three years ago.
12:33He says within three years, you had an agreement, and it's in the contract, that you would buy back the furniture for which he paid $10,000...
12:43That's correct.
12:43...from him for $3,500, and he advised you within that three-year period that he wanted to exercise that part of the contract that says that you would buy back the furniture for $3,500, and you declined to do that.
12:58And as an excuse for declining to do that, I'm just telling you what his claim is.
13:03You say that he moved the furniture from where you had originally staged it someplace else, and that was your reason for not honoring...
13:13...the contract to buy back the furniture.
13:16Do I have that right?
13:17Part of it.
13:18What part is wrong?
13:19That I never refused not to buy the furniture from him.
13:22On the contrary, I wanted to buy it.
13:24It was a great situation for us to buy it at the price we were buying it, only $0.30 on the dollar.
13:28So?
13:29Well, when he finally contacted me about the house being back off the market or that he has sold it, that he would like to exercise the option for me to buy it, I said, sure, give me a couple of days.
13:40I'm doing a couple of stages.
13:42We'll come by.
13:42Check it out.
13:43If everything is in good condition, we'll buy it all.
13:46If not, we'll buy the pieces that are steel, because it's been three years.
13:48So what happened, he goes, well, uh...
13:50Well, that's not what the contract says.
13:52And I go, and it's storage?
13:54He goes, yeah, everything is in lockers.
13:55And I say, in lockers?
13:57I say, how do you expect me to inspect it?
14:00If you put it in lockers and all the comforters and everything in boxes, you're going to have to take it out of the locker and put it anywhere that we can inspect it, because I'm not going to buy this lot blind.
14:11Well, I have to see what the contract says.
14:13I have to see what the contract says.
14:13Yeah, we have a list of the furniture and the items.
14:15Just a second.
14:16May I see it, please?
14:17May I see it?
14:18No, I want to see the contract.
14:19Yes, that's the contract with the list of furniture that he provided.
14:23Okay.
14:23So let's go back just for a second.
14:26You did this contract in 2018.
14:29As it turned out, according to what I read in your complaint, your tenant didn't want the furniture.
14:34Correct.
14:34So you took out the furniture.
14:36Yes.
14:36And that was in 2018.
14:38Yes.
14:38What did you do with the furniture, Mr. Davis?
14:41So the plan was...
14:42I don't want to know what the plan was.
14:44I want to know.
14:45He put the furniture in eight rooms.
14:49You took the furniture out because the tenant said, I don't want that.
14:53I have my own furniture, whatever it is.
14:54I want to know in 2018, because I read everything, and I pick up nuances.
15:02What did you do with the furniture in 2018?
15:06My son's girlfriend warned me that I shouldn't interrupt you because you would get angry,
15:13and I can't believe I'm doing it.
15:14She put it on my notes.
15:15Do not interrupt her.
15:16I apologize.
15:17Do not interrupt her.
15:19Sherman Davis claims furniture stager Julio Paz broke their agreement when he refused
15:37to buy backstaging furniture from Sherman.
15:40Now, what did you do?
15:41The original intent of the furniture.
15:42I don't care what the intent was.
15:45It went into a staged unit for you to sell.
15:50That's what it was.
15:52Paid $10,000 for it.
15:53The tenant didn't want it.
15:55I'm not going to ask you the question again while you figure out what you're going to say
15:58to me.
15:59What you're going to say to me is the truth.
16:01What did you do with the furniture in 2018?
16:04We moved the furniture out.
16:05To where?
16:06To a storage unit.
16:07Immediately from the apartment house, the eight rooms, you moved the furniture to a
16:14storage unit.
16:15Yes.
16:15What month and year?
16:16The tenant moved into, occupied our house on December 21st, 2018.
16:23Oh, my God.
16:24I have the lease agreement states that they moved in on December 21st.
16:28Just a second.
16:29When did you put the furniture in storage?
16:32So, the furniture was put in storage the week prior to when they moved in.
16:38So, 12-10, 2018.
16:41And it has remained in storage ever since?
16:43Yes.
16:44It has not been moved from the original storage unit?
16:47No, it's been there the whole entire time.
16:49Okay.
16:50So, let's see what it says.
16:58Oh, well, there is a caveat here.
17:00May I say something?
17:01No, no, no.
17:02No, no, no.
17:03He wasn't truthful to me.
17:04Hey, don't.
17:05He didn't listen to me.
17:05You asked me if you can say something.
17:07I said no.
17:08What part of no didn't you understand?
17:10Okay, Your Honor.
17:11Maybe your wife doesn't let you do that.
17:13Not me.
17:13He left me for that too many years ago.
17:15Yeah.
17:15Well, there's a reason.
17:18I got an ADDA, so it's hard for me to listen.
17:20Sorry.
17:21Is the furniture still in storage?
17:23Yes.
17:24Then, how do you expect him to satisfy a condition of this agreement?
17:29Mr. Davis, this was a simple contract agreement.
17:32I was absolutely prepared to rule in your favor.
17:35Furniture should be in good, reasonable condition.
17:38How do you expect him to view furniture that has been packed in storage to see if it's in
17:45good and reasonable condition?
17:46The furniture's there for him to come out to inspect.
17:48Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
17:50That's not on him.
17:51That's on you.
17:52The furniture was never used, though.
17:54We just moved the furniture from the house to the storage.
17:56You're asking him to believe that that's true.
18:00He's allowed to see where the mice got in the furniture and storage in three years,
18:04whether it's got mold and mildew after three years.
18:08It's your responsibility, yours, to lay it all out so that he can come and look at it,
18:14and then you fulfill that provision of the contract.
18:17He says he'll buy it back.
18:19It has to be in good and reasonable condition.
18:21And I was willing to do that.
18:23Well, then I tell you what you do.
18:25You arrange for all the furniture to be unpacked in a location where he can view it and see that
18:32it is in good and reasonable condition, not eaten by rats, has no mold, has no mildew,
18:39all eight rooms laid out.
18:41And you do that within five days.
18:43Okay.
18:44I'd love to buy it, Your Honor.
18:45Purniture prices went up 40% right now, so I'll get a great deal.
18:49Love to buy it from you.
18:51ADHD, Your Honor.
18:53I'm sorry.
18:53I apologize.
18:54My bad.
18:55My son's girlfriend warned me that I shouldn't interrupt you because her grandmother watched you for many years
19:00and you will get angry, and I can't believe I'm doing it.
19:02She put it on my notes.
19:03Do not interrupt her.
19:04I apologize.
19:06Well, she should have added, do not interrupt her, especially when it appears to be your winning.
19:10She also told me.
19:11Do not interrupt her.
19:13When it appears you get exactly what you want.
19:16So, these are the ground rules.
19:18If you want him to buy back the furniture within five days from today,
19:22you arrange for the furniture to come out of storage.
19:25You give him 48 hours notice where the furniture will be.
19:29Totally laid out.
19:31You may have to rent a stage somewhere for a day.
19:35That's going to cost you money.
19:36But he doesn't have to buy a pig and a poke.
19:39And there's a condition precedent in your contract that the furniture has to be in good condition.
19:45Now, as far as I'm concerned, once your tenant didn't want the furniture,
19:49instead of putting it in storage, you're going to make the money up from the tenant anyway.
19:53You say to him then, in December, listen, before I put it in storage, you say you'd buy it back for $3,500.
20:00I'm prepared to eat the loss because I'm going to make it up and rent over the next 12 months.
20:04Instead, you put it in storage.
20:06He's not responsible for your storage.
20:08So, within five days from today, on 48 hours notice, you're going to lay out all the furniture.
20:13If you don't do that, you don't get your money.
20:16Then it's your furniture.
20:17Do you understand?
20:18Yes, but what about the storage fees?
20:20He's not responsible for your storage fees.
20:22That's my ruling.
20:24I'm abiding by the terms of the written contract that you signed with him.
20:29Do you understand?
20:30Okay.
20:30Perfect.
20:31That's the ruling.
20:32You'll get a copy of it.
20:33Goodbye.
20:34Who was it?
20:35Your sister told you to be quiet?
20:36I'm sorry?
20:37Your sister!
20:39No, he's my son's daughter.
20:41I don't care.
20:42I actually, I withdraw that question.
20:44I don't care.
20:46Court is adjourned.
20:48When he actually contacted me recently, all he told me was the house was sold.
20:52Now I want to exercise my option for you to buy it.
20:55Well, it's a little frustrating because I did reach out to him.
20:58And he actually blamed me that the reason he was in storage was because I didn't get back to him quick, which was not true either.
21:04About a year later, and he declined to come and pick up the furniture.
21:09If I get the furniture, it would be a good thing for me because the furniture prices are super high because of the problem with the shipping overseas.
21:16I mean, it's very dated furniture.
21:18It's furniture that's really undesirable.
21:20I would love for him to actually call me, and I'll definitely buy it.
21:25I need it.
21:26Yeah, I'll follow.
21:27I'll pursue what the judge said.
21:28It makes my work so easy when there's a contract.
21:33And it's interesting.
21:34When I read that, the complaint and answer, you read it.
21:37It looked pretty straightforward.
21:39Yeah, it did.
21:39I thought he really refused to abide by a portion of the contract, but it was really the plaintiff that did not satisfy the condition precedent to him buying back the furniture.
21:49Which was to be able to look at it.
21:50Yeah.
21:50It's not his obligation to display it.
21:54It's the plaintiff's obligation to let him see whether after three years.
21:58I don't know whether I would rely on what happens to furniture.
22:02Yeah, you never know.
22:03You don't.
22:04So, anyway, I think that that was, it made the resolution of it so easy.
22:09People should pay attention.
22:11Do a contract.
22:12Read it.
22:13Abide by it.
22:14Right.
22:15Makes your life and courts much easier.
22:17Yeah.
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