00:00Next we have Ved Prakash Shukarma from the Environmental Science Department
00:12What's the difference between death and liberation?
00:19And how can we feel this difference before death?
00:25Or how can we be liberated while alive?
00:30These are two very different things in the sense that they happen to different entities
00:47You are driving your car
01:04And there is a point that you must reach
01:11But you are, as usual, drunk
01:17So you bang the car
01:25And the car is no more
01:28In a shape, in a position, to move any further
01:33This is death
01:37This is death
01:38Death of the car
01:44You are just left frustrated
01:48You haven't died
01:51But it's just that without the car
01:53You belong to nowhere
01:55You cannot move
01:56You cannot move
01:59Somehow your configuration is such that
02:02Your two legs can be used only to
02:07Press the accelerator
02:09And the clutch
02:11And the brake
02:13Those legs cannot be used to walk
02:15Somehow, that's the way you are constituted
02:17So if the car is gone
02:20You are gone
02:21Your journey is gone
02:23That's death
02:25Death of the car
02:28And death of the possibility
02:31The potential that you could have reached your destination
02:34Getting it?
02:36What is liberation?
02:38Liberation is when you reach your destination using the car
02:43And having reached your destination using the car
02:47You find the car does not hold the same meaning
02:52As it used to
02:55The car was tremendously important
02:58As a tool, as a vehicle
03:00Carrying you to your destination
03:02Once the destination is reached
03:05The car becomes quite unimportant
03:09That's liberation
03:13Now you are liberated from
03:15Being attached to the car
03:18Now you are liberated from being identified with the car
03:23Liberation belongs to you
03:25Death belongs to the car
03:28You are liberated from two things
03:33Simultaneously
03:35One
03:37Distance or separation from the destination
03:40Second, confinement to the car
03:42And these two are one and the same thing
03:44As long as there is separation from the destination
03:49There has to be attachment to the car
03:55These two go hand in hand obviously
03:57Because if you are separate from the destination
04:00Then you will have to be identified with the car
04:04Only then can you reach the destination, right?
04:06If you are still away from the point you want to reach
04:11Then you better be alert towards the vehicle
04:19No?
04:25Once you de-board the train
04:28How much do you care for your seat?
04:34How much do you care?
04:39It's a long journey
04:41Let's say you are travelling from Bangalore to Delhi
04:44Long train journey
04:47You have been on that particular seat
04:50B63
04:54Continuously for let's say 25 hours now
05:00And you are so particular about that seat, right?
05:06Three times in that duration
05:08That duration
05:11You told others off
05:13No, no, please
05:15It's reserved
05:20Sir, please can you get up?
05:22I want to take a little nap
05:25Hmm?
05:27And if something falls on your seat
05:30Then you would immediately wipe it away
05:31Wipe it away
05:33You are doing all those things
05:35And then you reach Delhi
05:37And you de-board
05:39Do you even
05:41Turn back once
05:43To look at what happens to that seat now?
05:46Have you done that?
05:48Ever?
05:49The seat holds importance
05:57And the seat must hold importance
06:00As long as you are
06:03Away from the destination
06:09Are you getting it?
06:11If
06:13You are not able to achieve the right results with your car
06:17And the car reaches its expiry date
06:21Hmm?
06:24Or becomes dysfunctional due to some accident
06:28Then it is called
06:30Death
06:32Whereas if you make right use of the car
06:35And the other resources available to you
06:39And utilize them
06:42Channelize them in a way
06:44That they serve your purpose
06:48Then this victory is called
06:54Liberation
06:58Death
07:00Without liberation
07:01Is obviously a defeat
07:03The entire
07:05Sense of life has been defeated
07:07The game begins with
07:15The driver and the car
07:19And the game can end in two possible ways
07:22Death
07:24Death or liberation
07:25Remember
07:27Death or liberation
07:28Remember death or liberation
07:31Which means
07:35That liberation is freedom from death
07:40Is that what
07:42All the ancients have called as immortality?
07:45If there are two possible results
07:47Only one
07:49Out of which is death
07:51Then the other one means
07:53Immortality obviously
07:55No?
07:57Is that not the implication?
07:59Two results are possible
08:01One result is mortality
08:03Then the other result has to be
08:05Which means liberation is freedom from death
08:07Are you getting it?
08:09Death occurs only to those
08:23Who have misutilized their life
08:27Death is only for those
08:31Who have lost on the tremendous opportunity called life
08:35Those who have lived rightly
08:38Do not die ever
08:41They become immortal
08:44They become immortal
08:46Obviously the body has to die
08:49The question is
08:51Does the body die
08:55Without you having reached the destination?
09:00Or are you
09:02Dedicated enough
09:03And swift enough
09:07And focused enough
09:09To quickly reach the destination
09:12Before the body falls apart?
09:21Do we need to
09:25Tell you which of these results you must aim for?
09:27Do we know?
09:31That's why
09:33The sages told us
09:34That the purpose of life is
09:36Liberation
09:38That's the result you must expect from life
09:40No other result is worthwhile
09:44If there is not liberation
09:46Then the only other possibility is
09:48Death
09:50Which means
09:52A lot of achievements without liberation
09:53Merely mean
09:54Death
09:57Which means a lot of prosperity and prestige
10:00Without liberation merely means
10:02So what do you call all that prosperity and prestige?
10:06Death
10:10Any kind of attainment
10:12That does not include liberation
10:13Or that does not lead to liberation
10:15Or that does not lead to liberation
10:17Is merely
10:19Death
10:25That's what you have to decide
10:27What to make of your life
10:29Do you want to bring it
10:31To a dead end?
10:34Dead end
10:36Or do you want
10:39It to reach a point of liberation
10:43From all movement
10:45Liberation from
10:47The vehicle
10:49Liberation from the need to move
10:51And even liberation from the destination
10:54Having reached the destination
10:56Do you care for the destination anymore?
10:57No, you are the destination
10:59You are not at the destination
11:01Now you are the destination
11:02Now you are spared
11:08The agony of worrying even about
11:11That ultimate destination
11:13Forget worrying about
11:15The little and trivial things of life
11:17Now you don't have to worry even about
11:20The ultimate destination
11:22And the seers have told us about it
11:25They say, I do not worry even about that
11:28That worries about me now
11:33Having reached the destination
11:37I have
11:39Crossed over all worries
11:43Forget about me worrying for the car
11:46I do not even worry about the
11:48Destination anymore
11:50Forget about me worrying about the world
11:52I do not worry about even
11:54Liberation anymore
11:59Tempting, isn't it?
12:00Go for it
12:01Go for it
12:05Or die
12:09No third option
12:13Hmm?
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