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This episode of To The Point focusses on the sudden resignation of Vice President Jagdeep Dhankhar, who cited health concerns just three years into his term.
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00:00Good evening, you're watching To The Point. I'm Preeti Chaudhuri. These are the headlines.
00:08Speculation over Vice President Dhankar's resignation. Sources indicate government unhappy over Dhankar towing opposition line, especially on Justice Varma impeachment notice.
00:18Politics over Jagdeep Dhankar's resignation. Congress claims there is more to what meets.
00:31DI accuses Nadda and Rajiju of snubbing Vice President. BJP dismisses charge. Claims Congress double-speaks.
00:39Opposition MPs protest in Parliament on Bihar SIR. Rahul Akhilesh lead STIR in Parliament. Opposition MPs unite to protest at Makardwar.
01:00Income tax tribunal set back to Congress party to pay tax on income of 199 crore received in 2017 and 18.
01:09Congress had called it donation money and claimed it was exempt from taxation.
01:18It is an Apache boost for the Indian Army. World's most advanced ground attack chopper.
01:23MiG-21 era ends. IAF Wall Horse set to retire.
01:33Prime Minister set to leave for two-nation tour of UK and the Maldives tomorrow.
01:37Prime Minister to meet King Charles III during his visit to the United Kingdom.
01:48Air India, Hong Kong to Delhi flight catches fire.
01:51After landing in Delhi, when passengers were de-bordering, blaze doused all crew and passengers safe.
01:56Airline grounds damaged claim.
01:58All right, we move with the latest news break that is coming in right now.
02:24Home Minister Amit Shah has met the Lok Sabha speaker.
02:27News break just about filtering in.
02:29Viewers, read it in context with the resignation of the Vice President of India,
02:35where Amit Shah is at Om Birla's residence.
02:37Om Birla presides over the lower house, Lok Sabha.
02:40Jagdeep Dhankar, the Vice President who has put in his resignation.
02:46The resignation since then has been accepted to sides over the upper house, Vajya Sabha.
02:51Now, Amit Shah, the Home Minister, is at the Speaker's residence.
02:55Discussion likely on Judge Verma impeachment.
02:58So, a lot going on in terms of various facets and aspects of the story,
03:04which is developing, my colleague, Imanshu joining us for more details.
03:08Imanshu, what more can you add?
03:10Thank you very much.
03:40The secret of the speaker on Birla came, which was for all the political parties and signatures of all political parties was prescribed,
03:53but one thing is that the secret of the committee formed to be in committee,
04:01Thank you, my colleague Himanshu for joining us, giving us details.
04:25Because all of this, especially this development, needs to be read in context of what happened
04:30late last night, which was the resignation of the Vice President of India, who chairs
04:35the Rajya Sabha.
04:39Dramatic, unprecedented, unceremonious.
04:43Vice President Jagdeep Dhankar resigns from post-citing health concerns.
04:54Day one of a stormy monsoon session, 9.25pm.
04:58Dhankar invoked Article 67A, citing medical advice and stepped down, effectively, immediately.
05:09Midterm exit, only three years in office.
05:13His term, which began on August 2022, ended prematurely with nearly two years left.
05:20Resignation accepted by President Murmu.
05:23President Draupadi Murmu accepted the letter, formalizing the vacancy in the second-highest
05:30constitutional post.
05:32Hariwansh takes over Rajya Sabha.
05:35Deputy Chairman Hariwansh Narayan Singh will now preside over the upper house until a new
05:41Vice President is elected.
05:43Article 67A for resignation.
05:52Article 68 mandating election as soon as possible.
05:58Upcoming Vice President elections loom.
06:02Election Commission must schedule a vote by Parliament's Electoral College.
06:06Both houses, including nominated Rajya Sabha members.
06:12NDA in crisis mode.
06:15Was the ruling alliance taken by surprise and now evaluating potential candidates?
06:21With stone-cold silence from BJP broken by a short, what some would call cryptic, tweet
06:28by the Prime Minister.
06:29Opposition smears more than meets the eye.
06:36Opposition suggested deeper reasons behind the sudden exit.
06:39The same opposition had sought an impeachment motion against Jagdeep Dhankar in 2024.
06:47Rare, historic move.
06:50Dhankar, only the third Vice President to resign mid-term, following V. V. Giri and R. Venkatraman.
06:57And the first to do so for health reasons.
07:04The first to do so on health grounds.
07:07The Vice President of India has resigned.
07:09Lots of conspiracy theories are abound.
07:12Which one is the most probable is something we are going to discuss during the course of this bulletin.
07:16But viewers, right now, all indications point to what took place yesterday in Rajya Sabha,
07:23which is a possible impeachment motion when it came down to Justice Verma.
07:27Vice President Jagdeep Dhankar shocks with an unforeseen resignation.
07:46Shock gives way to speculation.
08:01And conspiracy theories abound.
08:05Trigger, opposition motion against Verma.
08:08Mr. Justice Yashwant Verma, sir, please.
08:13Opposition sponsored motion to remove Justice Yashwant Verma after a massive cash recovery from his residence.
08:21Opposition MP submitted the notice in Rajya Sabha.
08:25Dhankar, as Chairman of the House, accepted it.
08:28This reportedly infuriated the government as Dhankar moved, denied the NDA the chance to lead the narrative against judicial corruption.
08:41A phone call from the centre.
08:44According to sources, a call from the centre followed Dhankar's decision.
08:49The conversation quickly escalated into an argument.
08:52Dhankar reportedly responded sharply and cited the powers of his office during this exchange.
09:00The call is believed to have set off alarm bells within the government.
09:06No Confidence Threat and Pre-emptive Exit
09:09Following the acrimonious exchange, rumblings of a government-backed no-confidence motion against the VP began.
09:16This comes just six months after the opposition had moved a similar motion.
09:22Sources say Dhankar, a seasoned political operator, chose to resign rather than risk the humiliation of being pushed out.
09:33Government's cold shoulder
09:35Hours before resignation, Union Minister J.P. Nada and Kiran Rajiju skipped a meeting of the Business Advisory Committee chaired by Dhankar.
09:45Their absence was interpreted as deliberate.
09:49Nada's remarks in the House, only what I will say will go on record.
09:55During opposition leader Malik Arjan Kargay's address also drew criticism, with some interpreting it as disrespect to the chair.
10:06Nothing will go on record. Whatever I will say, that will go on record. You should know.
10:11The absence of a farewell addressed by the Vice President deepened the sense of intrigue.
10:20Opposition leaders described the resignation as inexplicable.
10:26Health concern or face-saving exit
10:29While health reasons were cited, there has been no prior report of a major winless.
10:37Speculation that was a face-saving narrative.
10:39The most palatable public reason for a politically triggered move.
10:45Ultimately, the health reason doesn't match up.
10:48When the Vice President said this on the 10th of July.
10:52I will retire at the right time.
10:58August, 2027.
11:03Subject to divine intervention.
11:07The curious case of the sudden resignation by the Vice President of India.
11:11Did a sudden health plea mask deeper political tremors?
11:18Was it pressure?
11:20Was it pre-emptive?
11:21Or was it plain palace intrigue?
11:25Top Focus on To The Point this evening.
11:29And what we have are the best editors, political analysts to break it down on what really was it that led to that resignation at 9.25pm last night.
11:40Let's cut across, joining me, Rajdeep Sardasai, our consulting editor, Rajat Sethi, political commentator.
11:46Javed Ansari, senior journalist.
11:48Rashid Kidwai, author, senior journalist.
11:50Ashutosh, political analyst.
11:52All of them have studied Parliament.
11:54Some of them have covered Parliament very closely over the years.
11:58And Rajdeep, you're one of them.
12:00How would you read with what happened yesterday?
12:03Which conspiracy theory do you subscribe to?
12:07First of all, Preeti, I think that was a wonderfully written story.
12:10Because it brings together all the various conspiracy theories doing the rounds.
12:14What is increasingly clear, whether conspiracy or not, this has been in the making for a while.
12:20This wasn't something that happened at 9pm yesterday.
12:23This has been building up for the last couple of months.
12:26Apparently, sources close to the former Vice President are saying he was feeling uneasy about the manner in which the government was responding to some of the issues he was raising.
12:38Principally, one of the pet peeves of the Vice President was the issue of the judiciary.
12:46Judicial independence, judicial corruption, judicial interventions in Parliament.
12:50These are issues that Mr. Dhankar, a former Supreme Court lawyer, felt very strongly about.
12:55And it was that which we are told was the trigger for his eventual ouster.
13:01I'm not using the word resignation, but possible ouster.
13:04Because the manner in which he took up the case of Justice Yashwant Verma, in whose house cash was found.
13:11Mr. Dhankar was determined to push ahead with an impeachment motion, allowed a notice which was signed primarily by opposition MPs to be tabled in Parliament even before the government could react.
13:25And it almost seemed as if Mr. Dhankar therefore had made taking on the judiciary his personal cause.
13:34And that had embarrassed the Modi government because the Modi government was looking for better relations with the judiciary.
13:40And then you had Mr. Dhankar who wanted to take on the judiciary and create a potential Parliament versus Judiciary conflict if the Justice Yashwant Verma impeachment went through.
13:51So that was the trigger. But it's been building up, we are told, for a couple of months.
13:56You can see the comments that Mr. Dhankar has made on the farmers' issue.
14:01We are also told that there was one foreign visit which Dhankar and family had planned.
14:06And there were elements in the government who scotched it.
14:09J.D. Vance, the U.S. Vice President, was here last month.
14:13And protocol would have suggested that the Indian Vice President would be hosting him.
14:17Even that didn't happen.
14:19So something went wrong in this relationship in the last couple of months.
14:24The trigger, of course, we believe, was what happened with the Justice Yashwant Verma case in Parliament yesterday.
14:31But clearly, health reasons are only, it seems, a fig leaf to give the Vice President a chance to exit.
14:41Some believe, actually, that he decided to exit before he was pushed out and almost preempted what the government, his close associates felt, was intending to do, which is remove him from the Vice President's chair.
14:56But Rajdeep, how does it all add up?
14:58Because at one end, you had somebody who was seen, perception-wise, as a loyalist, you know, to the limit, that the opposition not once but twice wanted to move and moved a no-confidence motion against him in Parliament today.
15:13Of course, the same opposition somewhere down the line are championing his cause.
15:17So that's come full circle.
15:18How does it all add up?
15:19Do you also see now, Jagdeep Dhankar take the Satyapal Malik route?
15:23No, I don't think we can say that Jagdeep Dhankar is taking the Satyapal Malik route.
15:28Certainly not yet.
15:29What is very clear is the opposition is fishing in troubled waters.
15:33They want to suggest that there is some major constitutional crisis, suggest that this is the typical Modi Shah way of operating, of use and throw politics,
15:42while fully knowing that Jagdeep Dhankar was someone who was seen to be the mouthpiece of the government and, as you're right, tried to move an impeachment motion against him not too long ago.
15:52So forget the opposition for a moment.
15:54What does it say about the way the government functions is the question.
15:58Is it that if any constitutional authority is seen to exercise any kind of autonomy, he or she will be immediately brought in line?
16:07Remember, the Supreme Court has already tried to clip the powers of governors and presidents when it comes to sitting on bills.
16:18And now we have a situation where a presidential reference has been brought in, wherein the president is effectively challenging the Supreme Court's writ.
16:27So you do have several issues where the government is making it very clear that they will not allow anyone to enter the so-called writ of this government.
16:40And maybe Jagdeep Dhankar made that one vital mistake of trying to, in some way, after having spent years being the mouthpiece of the government,
16:50actually departing from the government's view when it came to the judiciary.
16:54Optics, Rajdeep, has been something that this government has got mostly right all the time.
17:00This might not serve too well in the larger scheme of things.
17:03Do you concur?
17:04Well, not really.
17:05You see, look, I don't think unless Jagdeep Dhankar comes out tomorrow and, as you said,
17:10becomes a Satyapal Malik and takes on the government,
17:13I don't think the government is too concerned about what happens to Jagdeep Dhankar
17:17and whether this will spark off a wider conflict.
17:20It's not going to.
17:22The government believes it can still control the narrative.
17:25They are determined to go ahead with a new vice presidential choice at the earliest.
17:29And Jagdeep Dhankar will be history.
17:30That's how this city operates.
17:32Delhi is a city where courtiers can become conspirators or enemies the very next day.
17:38And that could well happen with Jagdeep Dhankar.
17:40I think the government believes, yes, for today the optics don't seem very favorable.
17:46But that public memory is short and Jagdeep Dhankar will soon be a footnote in parliamentary history
17:52and the Modi government will move on.
17:54The larger issue of that judiciary versus executive conflict that is brewing
17:59is the issue that has to be looked at.
18:01Because remember, it's not just Justice Yadav, there's another impeachment, sorry,
18:05not just Justice Verma, there's another impeachment process against Justice Yadav
18:10which is being sought to be moved.
18:12How is all that going to play?
18:13And how will the tensions between the judiciary and the executive work out in the months ahead?
18:18Well, that's already seeming to happen because you have the Home Minister
18:21who's right now at the Lok Sabha speaker's residence
18:24and we believe the topic of discussion is the impeachment motion against Justice Verma.
18:30Appreciate you joining us, Rajdeep.
18:31I want to bring in Javed Ansari, Rashid Kidwai, Ranjad Sethi and Ashutosh into this conversation.
18:36I want to bring in Javed and Rashid first.
18:38Two journalists who have covered the parliament for the maximum number of years, I know.
18:44And Javed, to come to you first, have you ever seen something like this
18:47or is it completely unprecedented?
18:51Well, I haven't seen a Vice President resign like this.
18:54I have seen Mr. Shankar Dhal Sharma threatened to resign, break down in office,
18:59but I have never seen a Vice President being forced to exit office in the manner
19:04that Mr. Jagdeep Dhankar has been.
19:08So this is unprecedented.
19:10Mr. Venkat Raman and V. V. Giri did quit as Vice President,
19:15but they went on to contest and win the presidential elections
19:18and they went on to become President.
19:20But this is really something really unprecedented and this is not a run-of-the-mill.
19:26It's not something, it's not just a storm in a teacup or something.
19:30Just remember, this could come back to hurt them politically.
19:34Mr. Jagdeep Dhankar is the second prominent chart leader,
19:38the first being Mr. Satpal Malik, who's been humiliated and who's been hounded.
19:48Satpal Malik was humiliated, hounded by the government.
19:52He was lying in a hospital bed and the CBI was raiding him.
19:55The police were visiting him.
19:57Now the second is Mr. Jankar.
19:59Mr. Dhankar, he might for now keep his powder dry,
20:03but much will depend on what happens on the ground.
20:05If there is some churning,
20:07especially with any of his voices concerns about the farming community amongst the farmers,
20:12so he could become a rallying point for the farmers,
20:15who are either which way not particularly enamoured of this government.
20:19Well, that's exactly what the opposition would hope it does.
20:21And these are the two points that the opposition has suddenly found,
20:25which is the Jhata identity of now the former Vice President
20:29as well as his affection for farmers,
20:31which is also newfound where the opposition has come into the question.
20:35But Rashid Kidwai, of your many records of covering politics,
20:41how do you read the developments of the last 24 hours?
20:47There have been several instances where the presiding officers face problems
20:52from their own party or erstwhile party.
20:56I remember during Rajiv Gandhi's time,
21:00once Junior Minister KK Tiwari had made some observations
21:04against the then Vice President, Rajya Sabaabh,
21:07Presiding Officer Shankar Diyal Sharma.
21:10And Shankar Diyal Sharma had walked out of the chair
21:13and he had threatened to resign.
21:15And Rajiv Gandhi and his cabinet colleagues,
21:17senior cabinet colleagues had gone.
21:20They apologised and they persuaded Dr. Shankar Diyal Sharma,
21:23respectable man, to continue.
21:26Now, in this instance,
21:27if there was any difference of opinion,
21:30there are two, three things which are very glaring.
21:32There is no response mechanism.
21:34There was nobody.
21:35If health was an issue,
21:37then senior ministers, you know,
21:38could have called on Mr. Dhankar
21:41at his residence late in the night
21:42or today morning,
21:44to best of my knowledge,
21:45there has been no gesture.
21:47So, it seems that it is a political thing.
21:49If there was a difference of opinion,
21:51as I cited the example of KK Tiwari
21:53versus Shankar Diyal Sharma,
21:54there should have been some redressal mechanism.
21:57Why was,
21:58if assuming there was some point of difference
22:01or disagreement,
22:02why was he allowed to go
22:04in a hurry,
22:04in a most bizarre manner?
22:06If health was a consideration,
22:08then he could have opted out,
22:10he could have resigned
22:11before the Walsu session of parliament commenced.
22:15So, the timeline
22:15and the fact that in the BSE meeting,
22:18senior ministers didn't show up.
22:20I have also covered parliament for decades.
22:22There were never instances
22:23where a parliamentary affairs minister
22:25or leader of the house
22:26would not go
22:26in the business advisory committee meeting.
22:30What was the other engagement
22:32that was so pressing or so important?
22:34We have no details of it.
22:36Well, you know,
22:37they've come out both.
22:38J.P. Nadda and Kiran Rajiju
22:40have come out and said
22:41that they were going to attend the meeting,
22:44but because of something untoward,
22:46they couldn't.
22:46But I want to bring in Rajat Sethi.
22:47Are you the one, Rajat,
22:48to subscribe to the various conspiracy theories?
22:51Because 10 days ago,
22:52you had Mr. Dhankar Rajat
22:54who had said that
22:54I will, you know,
22:57dim it office
22:57on 20,
23:00August 20, 27,
23:02until and unless
23:03there's divine intervention.
23:04So, clearly,
23:05there has been some sort of
23:06divine intervention
23:07that has made this happen.
23:08Yeah, the divine intervention
23:10comes in multiple colors,
23:13multiple hues.
23:14So, I believe there is
23:15one divine intervention
23:15which eventually
23:16resulted in his resignation.
23:19You know, but see,
23:21in politics,
23:22and this is in my limited,
23:23you know,
23:24experience with politics,
23:25I believe that a lot of,
23:26especially in such
23:27esteemed offices,
23:28such high constitutional positions,
23:30words say something,
23:32then there is a lot
23:32that is left between the words.
23:34for interpreters
23:35to either cook
23:35conspiracy theories
23:36or for later biographies
23:38and autobiographies
23:39to come in
23:40and fill the gaps
23:40that is there.
23:41Till that time
23:42or till that authentic biography
23:43is not out,
23:44we can only speculate.
23:46You know,
23:46you can look at the terse tweet
23:48that Prime Minister did,
23:49clearly hinted at,
23:51you know,
23:51perhaps there was something
23:52which didn't work out well.
23:55And you need to give that
23:56to these offices
23:59where they have to,
23:59even if they have to
24:00demit the office,
24:01they need to do it
24:01so that the prestige
24:05or the decorum
24:07of the office
24:08is not heard.
24:08And I believe
24:09this is where
24:10the Vice President
24:11chose the right words
24:12and he stepped down.
24:13But my problem here
24:14is that when some
24:15esteemed journalists
24:16out here
24:16suddenly are now
24:18portraying that
24:19the opposition
24:19will latch on to this
24:20and will do
24:22Kisan Rajneeti
24:23on top of it,
24:24for all these while,
24:25for the past two years,
24:27these were the same
24:28opposition leaders
24:28who were outside
24:30the parliament
24:30were mimicking him.
24:32These were the same
24:33leaders who were
24:33mocking him,
24:34abusing the chair,
24:35bringing impeachment motion.
24:37Then these Kisan leader
24:38and Jat leader,
24:39all these theories
24:40go down the drain.
24:41See, let us,
24:42you know,
24:43people come
24:44and people go,
24:45country stays,
24:47this position stays
24:48and eventually
24:49one has to look at
24:50from that perspective
24:51as well.
24:52He did serve
24:53and I believe
24:54I agree with
24:55all the interventions
24:56that he made
24:56vis-à-vis the judiciary
24:58and I believe
24:59that the judiciary,
25:00there is absolutely
25:01no authority
25:02other than
25:03the president
25:03and the vice president
25:04which can even
25:05put out certain questions.
25:07Look at those
25:0810-12 questions
25:09that the honourable
25:09president has put out
25:10are absolutely material
25:12and they need
25:13to resolve this
25:14because I feel
25:15that they have been
25:16crossing the mandate
25:16that the judiciary has
25:18and running a show
25:19where there are
25:19no checks and balances.
25:20This was not
25:21what was envisaged
25:22by our founding fathers
25:23and I believe
25:24this is where
25:25what he said
25:26has said
25:26he is now
25:27no longer
25:27on that position.
25:29Let this,
25:29this situation
25:30is not going
25:30to be discussed
25:31after two days.
25:32It will only come
25:33when there is,
25:33you know,
25:33a possible biography
25:34or Dhankarji
25:36wants to come back
25:36and restart
25:37his political life
25:38and then we will
25:39again revisit
25:39these topics
25:40and perhaps
25:40there will be
25:41more data on the table.
25:42Right now
25:42we are only speculating.
25:44So I don't want
25:44to indulge myself
25:45in speculation.
25:46Well, you know,
25:47but speculation
25:47is what politics
25:49is nowadays
25:49because there is
25:50that much news
25:50that really comes out
25:52but having said that,
25:54you know,
25:54many would,
25:55especially in the government
25:56would hope,
25:56Rajat,
25:56with what you said
25:57that they have to
25:58wait for the biography
25:58and not possibly
25:59an interview
26:00like Mr. Satpal Malik
26:01because that took
26:02a life of its own
26:03but Ashutosh,
26:04in midst of all
26:05the speculation,
26:06conspiracy theories
26:06that are abound
26:07and there are plenty
26:08out there,
26:09which do you think
26:10is the most
26:11possible
26:12reason for
26:14the resignation?
26:20I have no
26:21conspiracy theory
26:22to say
26:23but I can tell you
26:24one thing
26:24that the last week
26:25I was talking
26:26to somebody
26:26and I met somebody
26:27and then I was told
26:29that Mr. Jagdeep Dhankar
26:30Vice President
26:31was very,
26:31very upset,
26:32very,
26:32very angry
26:33and he felt
26:34extremely humiliated
26:37and his ego
26:38was very hurt
26:39so I just wanted
26:40to know what
26:41happened to him
26:41and I was told
26:42that somebody
26:43in the higher up
26:44within the BJP
26:46itself has really
26:47done something
26:49to him
26:49and which
26:50he was not
26:52able to swallow
26:52and he was
26:55I was told
26:56that he was
26:56literally in tears
26:57so the fact
26:58of the matter
26:58is that what
26:59has happened
26:59what triggered
27:00I was not
27:01told that what
27:02was the reason
27:02behind it
27:03but apparently
27:04something has
27:05gone wrong
27:06and what has
27:07gone wrong
27:08nobody knows
27:09so those
27:09who are
27:10getting the
27:12story that
27:13this all
27:14has happened
27:14on Monday
27:16itself
27:17and because
27:18everything was
27:19all night
27:19till the first
27:21BAC meeting
27:21in the morning
27:22and by 4.30
27:23when the next
27:24BAC meeting
27:25happened
27:25in which
27:26the party
27:27president
27:27Nadda
27:27and the
27:28leader of
27:28house
27:29in Rajasabad
27:30did not
27:30turn up
27:30and also
27:31the parliamentary
27:32affairs minister
27:32Kiran Rajuji
27:33also wasn't
27:34there
27:34and so
27:35something
27:35must have
27:36triggered
27:36in between
27:364-5 hours
27:38or just
27:39before 4.30
27:40meeting
27:41I don't
27:41buy that
27:42argument
27:42my argument
27:43is very
27:43simple
27:44something
27:44was missed
27:45between
27:45Mr.
27:46Vice
27:47President
27:47and the
27:48BJP
27:48and the
27:49government
27:49and which
27:50could not
27:51be controlled
27:52or they
27:52didn't want
27:53to control
27:53it
27:53I didn't
27:54want to
27:54manage it
27:55so finally
27:56it culminated
27:56into his
27:57resignation
27:57so for
27:58me it
27:59was really
27:59a surprise
28:00that because
28:01when I was
28:01told about
28:02this incident
28:03I did not
28:03anticipate that
28:04Mr.
28:05Dhankar will
28:06go to the
28:06extent of
28:07resigning it
28:07because we
28:09had already
28:09known him
28:09that he was
28:10so close to
28:10the government
28:11and government
28:11whatever wanted
28:12him to do
28:12he did it
28:13whether as
28:13a governor
28:14of Bengal
28:14or as a
28:15Vice
28:15President
28:16and somebody
28:17who lived
28:17in the
28:18political
28:19wilderness
28:19for more
28:20than two
28:20decades
28:20and who
28:21had never
28:22thought that
28:22he could
28:23rise to
28:23the post
28:24of Vice
28:25President
28:25if he
28:26reached to
28:26the Vice
28:27President
28:27then why
28:27should he
28:28lose that
28:28position
28:29unless
28:29something
28:30seriously
28:31had gone
28:31wrong
28:31between him
28:32and the
28:32Modi
28:33and the
28:33Modi
28:35government
28:35what could
28:36that be
28:37died in
28:38wool
28:38Modi
28:39supporter
28:39a loyalist
28:41to the core
28:41what could
28:42have gone
28:42wrong
28:43because
28:43of late
28:44there is
28:44this other
28:44conspiracy
28:45theories
28:45that he
28:46of the books
28:47were meeting
28:48certain leaders
28:49two days ago
28:49there was an
28:50image of him
28:51shaking hands
28:51with Arvind
28:52Kejriwal
28:52which clearly
28:53mustn't have
28:54gone down
28:54well with
28:55the dispensation
28:55so how did
28:56it all come
28:57down together
28:57because this
28:58was a man
28:58who was
28:59seen as
28:59an out
29:00and out
29:00loyalist
29:00well an
29:02out and
29:03out
29:03loyalist
29:03who for
29:04a very
29:05large part
29:05of his
29:06limited
29:07tenure
29:07forgot the
29:08difference
29:09between
29:09shoe pine
29:10and spine
29:10and eventually
29:13ended up
29:13paying the
29:14price for
29:15it
29:15that being
29:16said
29:16this is
29:17what happened
29:19yesterday
29:19that
29:20test phone
29:20call
29:20was the
29:23immediate
29:23provocation
29:24was the
29:24last straw
29:25that poked
29:26the camel's
29:26back
29:26but
29:27trouble has
29:27been brewing
29:28they haven't
29:29been on the
29:29same page
29:30for a long
29:30time
29:31I have it
29:32on reasonably
29:33good authority
29:34that the
29:35vice president
29:36has felt
29:38buffeted
29:39has felt
29:40hemmed in
29:40he in fact
29:41confided in a
29:42senior leader
29:43that things
29:44were this
29:44bad
29:45had gone
29:45that bad
29:46that he
29:46couldn't even
29:47choose a
29:47painting of
29:48his choice
29:49in his
29:49house
29:49he couldn't
29:50even have a
29:51painting of
29:52his choice
29:52in his
29:53house
29:53he says
29:54I find it
29:55difficult to
29:55breathe
29:56it's become
29:56so suffocating
29:58so even
29:59somebody like
30:00Mr.
30:01Dhankar
30:01who was
30:02always
30:02who always
30:03bent over
30:04who was
30:04more than
30:05deferential
30:05in his
30:06interaction
30:07and in
30:08his
30:08with
30:09the powers
30:10that be
30:10even he
30:11found it
30:12and especially
30:13the way
30:14look at the
30:15alacrity with
30:16which the
30:16vice president
30:17of India's
30:18resignation
30:18was accepted
30:19within us
30:21no effort
30:22was made
30:22to at
30:23least talk
30:24to him
30:24or persuade
30:25him
30:25and then
30:26the terse
30:27almost
30:28abrasive
30:30tweet
30:32from the
30:33PM
30:33this morning
30:35the prime
30:36minister's
30:36reaction
30:36I mean
30:37it tells
30:37its own
30:38story
30:38there's
30:39lots of
30:39things
30:39happening
30:40and
30:41I've
30:42never
30:43taken
30:43names
30:43on
30:44I
30:46haven't
30:46ever
30:47divulged
30:47information
30:49that
30:49was
30:50not
30:50meant
30:50to be
30:51told
30:51or that
30:51was
30:51shared
30:52in private
30:52but there's
30:53a lot
30:54of things
30:54happening
30:54and
30:55take it
30:56from me
30:56in the
30:57days
30:57to come
30:57there will
30:58be a lot
30:59more
30:59information
31:00forthcoming
31:00on this
31:01subject
31:01than what
31:02we are
31:02aware
31:02of
31:02at the
31:03moment
31:03all right
31:04well
31:04you know
31:04that's
31:04all the
31:05more
31:05interesting
31:05where
31:06political
31:06journalism
31:07is
31:07concerned
31:07but
31:08Rashid
31:08would
31:08you want
31:08to weigh
31:09in on
31:09that
31:10with
31:10what
31:10Javid
31:10was
31:10saying
31:11I
31:16think
31:16the
31:17ruling
31:19dispensation
31:19is very
31:21sure-footed
31:22that they
31:22can get
31:23away
31:23just
31:23because
31:24Mr.
31:24Jagdeep
31:24Dhankar
31:25is a
31:26political
31:26lightweight
31:27he does
31:28not have
31:28a much
31:29popular
31:30following
31:30or so
31:31and
31:32there was
31:33some
31:34kind of
31:34confrontation
31:35but
31:35instead of
31:35resolving
31:36through
31:36a
31:37radical
31:37mechanism
31:38through
31:38sort of
31:39mollifying
31:39through
31:40process
31:40of
31:40accommodation
31:41after all
31:42Mr.
31:42Dhankar
31:43represented
31:43a
31:43constitutional
31:44post
31:45a very
31:45high
31:46post
31:46in terms
31:47of
31:48warrant
31:48of
31:49protocol
31:50etc.
31:50precedence
31:51but there
31:52was no
31:52mechanism
31:53so
31:53government
31:54is
31:54actually
31:55thinks
31:56that it
31:56can
31:57get away
31:57and they
31:58will
31:58do all
31:59the other
32:00adjustment
32:00what we
32:01are talking
32:01about
32:02is a
32:02deadlock
32:03that
32:03supposed
32:03to be
32:04supposed
32:04to exist
32:05between
32:06the choice
32:07of new
32:07BGP
32:08president
32:08supposedly
32:09some kind
32:10of tension
32:10between
32:11the RSS
32:11and Mr.
32:13Dared Modi
32:14and Mr.
32:14Amit Shah
32:15so they
32:15will be
32:16able to
32:16get one
32:17of the
32:17you know
32:18factions
32:19to get
32:20this office
32:21of vice
32:22president
32:22so some
32:22kind of
32:23adjustment
32:23and compromise
32:24is there
32:25I think
32:26there is
32:26a
32:26the
32:27resignation
32:28of vice
32:28president
32:29is a
32:29combination
32:29of two
32:30things
32:30one
32:31is a
32:31sort
32:31of
32:32you know
32:32arrogance
32:33or a
32:33deadlock
32:34a kind
32:34of
32:34confrontation
32:35which
32:35went
32:36unattended
32:37it was
32:38allowed
32:38to
32:38go out
32:39of the
32:39out of
32:41the
32:41box
32:41and the
32:42second
32:42part
32:42that
32:43the
32:43political
32:44master
32:44saw it
32:45as an
32:45opportunity
32:46to accommodate
32:47and adjust
32:47someone
32:48a very
32:49senior
32:49perhaps
32:50from the
32:50union
32:50cabinet
32:51as a
32:51vice
32:52president
32:52and then
32:53in the
32:53process
32:53you will
32:54soon
32:54have a
32:55new
32:55BGP
32:55president
32:56also
32:56you know
32:57it's a
32:57two month
32:58as per
32:58the constitution
32:59two months
33:00for the
33:01election
33:02of the
33:03new
33:03vice
33:03president
33:04and whoever
33:04the vice
33:05president
33:05is will
33:05serve the
33:06full five
33:06year term
33:07and not
33:07just the
33:08term
33:08left over
33:09by Mr.
33:10Dhankar
33:10Rajat I'll
33:11just come
33:11to you
33:12I want to
33:12take that
33:12question
33:13which you
33:13posed
33:13earlier
33:13to Ashutosh
33:15and Ashutosh
33:15I'll bring
33:15you in
33:16first on
33:16this
33:16because
33:17Rajat
33:17touched
33:18on it
33:18and it's
33:18something
33:18which is
33:19quite
33:19you know
33:20apparent
33:20the hypocrisy
33:21of the
33:21opposition
33:22from
33:23mooting
33:23an
33:24impeachment
33:24motion
33:25against
33:25the man
33:26now you're
33:26championing
33:27his cause
33:27see Priti
33:32I think
33:32the opposition
33:33should have
33:34a right
33:34to have
33:35a laugh
33:35at
33:35because
33:35I think
33:36this is
33:36not a
33:37love
33:38for the
33:39Jagdeep
33:39Dhankar
33:40basically
33:40they are
33:41laughing
33:41at
33:42the
33:43government
33:44itself
33:45they are
33:45enjoying
33:45at the
33:46face loss
33:47which the
33:47government
33:47has got
33:49through
33:49because of
33:50the Jagdeep
33:51Dhankar
33:51I think
33:52they have
33:52every right
33:52to enjoy
33:53that
33:53let them
33:54enjoy
33:54that
33:54moment
33:54I don't
33:55see this
33:55as hypocritical
33:56at all
33:56and why
33:57it should
33:58be hypocritical
33:58if BJP
33:59had been
34:00in place
34:00of
34:00Congress
34:02party
34:03in opposition
34:03right now
34:04they would
34:04have also
34:04done the
34:05same thing
34:05so this
34:06is not
34:07that suddenly
34:07the Congress
34:08and the
34:08other opposition
34:09party
34:09has developed
34:09some kind
34:10of affection
34:10some kind
34:11of love
34:11affair
34:12with Jagdeep
34:13Dhankar
34:13because they
34:14all know
34:15that Jagdeep
34:15Dhankar
34:15how badly
34:16he treated
34:16all of them
34:17and badly
34:18to the extent
34:19that the
34:19opposition
34:20had to
34:20move
34:21an impeachment
34:21motion
34:22against him
34:22not once
34:23but twice
34:24that
34:24effort
34:26was made
34:26so let's
34:28have some
34:28enjoyment
34:31some fun
34:31out of this
34:33so I read
34:34what Jairam
34:35Ramesh
34:35has written
34:36I have also
34:36heard what
34:38Kapil Sipal
34:38was saying
34:39but this is
34:39more of a
34:40fun angle
34:41to the story
34:42not a serious
34:42angle to the
34:43story
34:43and they
34:44want to
34:44enjoy at
34:45the cost
34:45of the
34:46government
34:47itself
34:47who had to
34:48cut such
34:48a sorry
34:48figure
34:48because
34:49somebody
34:49who is
34:50supposed
34:50to be
34:50his puppet
34:51has finally
34:52resigned
34:53and so
34:53ingloriously
34:54but you
34:55know
34:55what's
34:55interesting
34:55is when
34:56you speak
34:56of the
34:56hypocrisy
34:57you touched
34:57on Kapil
34:58Sibal
34:58the sheer
34:58fact that
34:59Kapil
34:59Sibal
34:59signed the
35:00impeachment
35:00motion
35:01and yet
35:02is defending
35:02Justice
35:03Verma
35:03you know
35:03I don't
35:04know how
35:04these two
35:04things add
35:05up
35:05but having
35:06said that
35:06Rajat you
35:07want to
35:07come in
35:07quickly
35:07make your
35:08point
35:08and then
35:08we'll take
35:09final comments
35:09well I
35:11mean I
35:12was thinking
35:12that Jairam
35:13Ramej would
35:13be running
35:14short on
35:14tissue papers
35:15the kind
35:15of teary
35:17eyed
35:17farewell that
35:18he was
35:18giving on
35:18Twitter was
35:19just unbelievable
35:20but good
35:21that they
35:22have this
35:22very perverse
35:23sense of
35:23happiness
35:24on other
35:25people's
35:26falling
35:26which is
35:27bemusing
35:28to everybody
35:29especially
35:30what Ashutosh
35:31has just
35:31mentioned
35:32I mean
35:32instead of
35:33looking at
35:33their own
35:34in-house
35:34disorder
35:35where you
35:36have a
35:36Shashi
35:36Tharoor
35:37who you
35:38know basically
35:38has largely
35:39been written
35:39off
35:40their own
35:41party leader
35:41call him
35:42by names
35:42all kinds
35:43of things
35:43and then you
35:44have the
35:44audacity to
35:45come out
35:45and laugh
35:45at others
35:46issues
35:46that just
35:47shows why
35:47congress is
35:48where congress
35:48is
35:48again good
35:49luck to
35:49them
35:50coming back
35:50to the
35:51moot point
35:51I think
35:53Jagdeep
35:54Dhankarji
35:55if there
35:56has been
35:56an issue
35:57and if he
35:57is saying
35:58that say
35:59I couldn't
35:59buy a
36:00painting
36:00you by
36:01the way
36:02any
36:02constitutional
36:03office that
36:03you sit
36:03or any
36:04government
36:04post that
36:05you occupy
36:05there are
36:06set protocols
36:07you cannot
36:07you don't
36:08even have
36:08that freedom
36:09to go out
36:09and buy
36:09even a
36:10painting
36:10I am
36:11sure people
36:12who have
36:12served in
36:13the government
36:13know that
36:14I for once
36:15know that
36:15I know
36:16that even
36:17a very basic
36:18fundamental
36:19thing goes
36:19through very
36:20elaborate
36:20bureaucratic
36:21procurement
36:21processes
36:22so I don't
36:22think
36:23Jagdeep
36:23Dhankarji
36:24is such a
36:26novice that
36:26he wouldn't
36:27know that
36:27therefore I
36:28will not
36:28believe on
36:29all these
36:29kite flying
36:30theories out
36:30there
36:30let this
36:32conspiracy
36:32mature in
36:33a way
36:34where you
36:34know the
36:35leader
36:35concerned
36:36Jagdeep
36:36Dhankarji
36:37himself comes
36:37out and
36:38says that
36:39these were
36:39the reasons
36:39and then we
36:40can do a
36:40detailed sort
36:41of postmortem
36:42on that as
36:43to what
36:43happened
36:44was it
36:44legitimate
36:45was his
36:46you know
36:47feeling the
36:47pinch
36:48was it
36:48justified
36:49or unjustified
36:50what leader
36:51said what
36:51again these
36:52are all
36:53theories that
36:53you know
36:53we are just
36:54bouncing off
36:56each other
36:56and perhaps
36:57waiting for
36:57something to
36:58stick on the
36:58wall just
36:59to just to
37:00give the
37:00opposition some
37:01kind of an
37:01agenda to
37:01latch on to
37:02and I don't
37:03think opposition
37:03will do service
37:04to its own
37:05cause if they
37:05want to continue
37:06latching on to
37:07it fine do it
37:07for two days
37:08but then get
37:09back to business
37:09after two days
37:10all right let's
37:11take final comments
37:11David you
37:13wanted to come
37:13in quickly sir
37:14yeah Rajat was
37:17talking of political
37:17opportunism but I
37:19think you mentioned
37:19the point political
37:21opportunity there is a
37:22thin line difference
37:23between political
37:24opportunism and real
37:25politics
37:26Mr. Modi and
37:28the BJP take
37:28advantage of the
37:30opposition's
37:31discomfiture
37:32it's you know
37:34they find it very
37:35convenient to
37:37lampoon Mr.
37:38Shashi Tharoor
37:38at some point of
37:40time and suddenly
37:41now he becomes
37:41there you know
37:43they want to make
37:44him the poster boy
37:45are they not
37:46fishing in troubled
37:46waters so you
37:47take advantage if
37:48when your opponent
37:50provides lets his
37:51guard down you
37:53take advantage you
37:54try and take a
37:54take a shot that
37:56that's precisely
37:56what the BJP has
37:58been doing in the
37:59past and this is
38:00what the opposition
38:01say they are not
38:02going he Mr.
38:03Dhankar will
38:03certainly not be the
38:04opposition's knight
38:05in shining armor but
38:07at the moment if
38:08the if because of
38:09the way the
38:10government has
38:10mishandled this
38:11issue if they can
38:13cause some political
38:15embarrassment to the
38:16government they will
38:17certainly try to do
38:18it and every they are
38:19within their rights
38:20just as the
38:20government ruling
38:21party is within it
38:22tries to try and
38:23embarrass the
38:24opponents okay you
38:26know Rashid
38:27Kidwai you know
38:28it's foolhardy
38:29especially with this
38:30government to even
38:31venture a guess but
38:31because we are
38:32talking about
38:32conspiracy theories
38:33who do you
38:34reckon is going to
38:34be the front
38:35runner when it
38:35comes down to the
38:36position for the
38:37VP and the
38:38question that I
38:38asked Rajdeep
38:39Rashid and Javed
38:41also touched on it
38:42in his submission do
38:43you see any
38:43parallels now with
38:44Satyapal Malik
38:45well that I leave it
38:49to Mr. Dankar's
38:50judgment he is a
38:52very astute politician
38:54and a lawyer I think
38:55at some stage in life
38:57he would want to put
38:58the records straight and
39:00if he does that in
39:01terms of murmur etc it
39:02is going to be you
39:03know quite embarrassing
39:04for the government of
39:05the day whenever he
39:06chooses to the to
39:08respond to your first
39:09question I think it is
39:10very hazardous to
39:11speculate who would you
39:13know step in Mr.
39:15Jagdeep Dankar's shoes
39:18because we do not
39:20know what will happen
39:21if you look at the
39:22decision making process
39:23it is highly it is
39:24kept at the very kind
39:26of close guarded
39:27secret and people
39:28do not get to know
39:29what I sense I what I
39:33can see that there
39:34is going to be a
39:35full timer BGP RSS
39:37person having you
39:39know total kind of
39:40faith and respect
39:42within the BGP
39:44Sangh Paribar maybe
39:45someone like Rajnath
39:46Singh or somebody from
39:47the union cabinet as
39:50I am saying maybe it
39:51can be Nirmala it can
39:52be Shivaraj Singh Chauhan
39:53it depends because the
39:55vice president is going
39:56to out outlive this
39:5918th Lok Sabha his
40:01tenure would be his or
40:02her tenure would be till
40:042030 well past 2029
40:07Lok Sabha election so I
40:08think the choice will be
40:10very carefully made they
40:11will not be a kind of
40:12outsider like Mr.
40:14Jagdeep Dhankar though
40:15he was from BJP but he
40:16was he had been in the
40:17Congress he had been with
40:18Samajwadi party he's been
40:20with with Chanan Singh's
40:22party so I don't see a
40:24you know prominent lawyer
40:25or someone outsider
40:27getting in it is going to
40:29be a someone an insider a
40:31close confident of
40:32Prime Minister Modi and
40:33Mr. Amish Shah.
40:34Okay close confident you
40:36want to add to that
40:37Ashutosh because
40:38especially social media
40:39is a buzz that they
40:40found a new Mr.
40:41Satyapal Malik.
40:45See Satyapal Malik was
40:48a was a different kind
40:50of a person he was
40:51mentored by Chaudhary
40:53Charan Singh and Chaudhary
40:54Charan Singh was known
40:55for plain simple straight
40:58talking whereas Chakdeep
41:00Dhankar is a much clever
41:02person much clever
41:03politician he got one
41:05opportunity and the way
41:06he manipulated things for
41:07himself that he rose to
41:08the post of vice
41:10president so the man like
41:11him I doubt and I dread
41:13whether he will behave
41:14exactly the way Satyapal
41:15Malik was behaving because
41:16Satyapal Malik was very
41:18hurt when he was removed
41:19as a governor though he
41:20was placed to Manipur and
41:21then he was not in the
41:22northeast and then had
41:23gone to the to the Goa
41:24but Satyapal Malik is a
41:26very very hard-headed
41:28person whereas this man
41:30the Jagdeep Dhankar is not
41:32that kind of a person he's a
41:34malleable person he is very
41:36smart very clever and he
41:38knows that Mr. Narendra
41:40Modi and Amit Shah can have
41:43a limited tenure whereas the
41:46RSS is going to stay so why
41:49he should say something which
41:50damage RSS and the BJP itself
41:52so if he is a clever politician
41:54he will make that distinction
41:56okay final comments Rajat you
41:59want to quickly come in and
42:00then we'll close the show or
42:02the debate so I I just feel
42:05that the conspiracy theories
42:08will still carry on for a
42:09couple of days now that we
42:10have an acting VP I believe
42:12the the Rajasaba proceedings
42:13are going to go back in
42:14track the opposition's core
42:16questions will have to be
42:17again brought to the foray
42:18there are certain important
42:19things which have to be
42:20discussed and very soon the
42:22new cycle will change and we
42:24will see the the ex vice
42:26president Dhankar ji go back
42:27into the history pages and I
42:29believe that Satyapal Malik by
42:32no means is a litmus test of
42:33how everybody who's out of
42:35favor or out of force should
42:36react that's unbecoming of him
42:38as an individual Satyapal
42:40Malik and he is a he is not
42:42somebody who who can be a
42:43benchmark of anybody who has
42:45occupied a public public office
42:46no matter what party you come
42:48from no matter what post you
42:50have served on so let's keep
42:51Satyapal Malik out of
42:52equation there is a gentleman
42:54here Satyapal Malik and sorry
42:56Dhankar ji who if he genuinely
42:58feels in the causes that
42:59judiciary needs to course
43:01correct he will he can go
43:03back to his law practice and
43:04then do serve the cause in the
43:06future days to come there will
43:07be a lot of popular support
43:08let me tell you if he can go
43:10back and argue those court
43:11cases in the Supreme Court and
43:13try and seek accountability from
43:14the the highest court of our
43:15country thank you know but
43:17but Rajat in all of this he's
43:19also 74 just one shot of 75 I
43:22mean that's another conspiracy
43:24theory so let's leave it at
43:27that I appreciate all four of
43:28you for joining us thank you
43:29there all right news coming in
43:32from Karnataka before we move on
43:34to the state of Uttar Pradesh after
43:36claims made by a whistleblower that
43:38he buried many bodies in
43:40Dharmasthala the Karnataka High
43:42Court has set up a special
43:44investigative team to probe the
43:45charges
43:46it's a big India today impact
43:53after days of relentless focus on
43:58the alleged Dharmasthala mass
43:59murders the Karnataka government is
44:02finally taking strong action
44:03chief minister Siddharamaya has now
44:06ordered a full-fledged SIT probe
44:09into charges of disappearances
44:11sexual abuse and murders a special
44:15investigation team or SIT headed by top
44:17cop P Mohanty will investigate the
44:20claims and ghastly crimes in and
44:22around the holy town of Dharmasthala
44:24advocates have now urged the
44:27government to set up a dedicated
44:29helpline for filing complaints to
44:32look into Dharmasthala issues you know
44:38that there has been a complaint there
44:40has been a public hue and cry government
44:44has taken note of all this and then
44:46constituted an SIT to look into this
44:50entire thing this move is welcomed by
44:54by Karnataka BJP
44:57long ignored patterns of missing women
45:01unnatural deaths murders and sexual assaults in Dharmasthala
45:06spanning more than two decades will now be probed the investigation began
45:11gaining traction after a whistleblower came forward with horrifying claims
45:17he alleged that corpses of several women and girls including school
45:47students were found naked bearing visible signs of violence and possible
45:52sexual assault the whistleblower says he was threatened warned that he too would
45:57be cut into pieces if he spoke out now families of the missing are breaking
46:04their silence sujata whose daughter went missing during a college trip to
46:09Dhanvsthala in 2003 says she was assaulted and silenced when she sought
46:15justice Amid this Padmalata murder case has resurfaced in
46:36Mangaluru 39 years later Padmalata a resident of Boliaru village in Dharamsthala
46:43belithangadi taluk of Dakshan Kannada district mysteriously went missing on
46:48December 22nd 1986 after she left for her college despite an extensive search she
46:56remained untraceable eventually skeleton remains were found with the hands and
47:01feet tight from ignored complaints to buried bones and silence testimonies every
47:09unanswered question now demands attention as the SIT steps in across nation
47:16there is one hope justice truth and dignity for the daughters who were
47:22possibly faint with Sageraj Bureau report India today
47:29all right viewers let's just focus right now to Uttar Pradesh because one ice breaker is being read a lot where political messaging is
47:38is concerned it involved the incumbent chief minister Yogi Adityanath and
47:44Bridge Bhushan Sharan and a lot has gone down where Bridge Bhushan Sharan is concerned
47:51after years of visible strain in ties with the state leadership Bridge Bhushan Sharan former BJP MP from Kaizar Ganj mind you his son holds the seat of Kaizar Ganj now a heavyweight in Uttar Pradesh politics and in the world of wrestling called on chief minister Yogi Adityanath
48:08Adityanath at the latter's official residence on Monday afternoon the meeting that came after a long gap sparked speculation in political circles though the exact issue discussed were not known the timing and context of the meeting have added to its significance notably in previous remarks Bridge Bhushan had claimed that he could meet the chief minister whenever he wished and there was no problem in doing so but he was preoccupied with work especially with the entire controversy surrounding bridge
48:37Bridge Bhushan Sharan on his alleged role as a sexual harasser when it came down to our wrestlers some of them have represented India on an international stage even now while the Poxo case against Bridge Bhushan Sharan is closed the other sexual harassment charges continue to haunt him
48:58It is that the
49:02Yeah, we've seen the
49:03been
49:03the
49:04Yeah,
49:05on the
49:08Yeah,
49:09and
49:09yeah,
49:10I
49:11I
49:11really
49:13your
49:15I
49:16the
49:17I
49:18I don't know how much I can do it I don't know
49:30Oh
49:33I'm gonna send it back to you
49:37Oh, I can't be
49:40Oh, and I can't be
49:45Oh
49:48I want to cut across to Kumar Abhishek live because viewers, what you just see is a meeting
50:02between Yogi Adityanath and Brijbhu Shanksharan because clearly relations between the two
50:08were not quite right, especially in the months leading to elections in Lok Sabha 2024.
50:17What is the political significance of both the leaders coming together in a state where
50:22caste is a huge factor where elections come into question.
50:27The Thakur factor could very well be that clue.
50:30Kumar Abhishek, what is behind this Milan?
50:34The politics behind it, please tell us.
50:37We are having a bit of a problem with the connection of Kumar Abhishek.
50:56We are going to try and connect to him later.
50:59But viewers, a lot of it has to do with the politics of the state and the center.
51:04We are going to continue to get our viewers more.
51:07But for now, you have Brijbhu Shanksharan who is still embroiled in the sexual harassment
51:12case regarding wrestlers, even though the POXO case has been shut, but the other cases continue.
51:21Despite that, Brijbhu Shanksharan has gained a lot of favor, especially where the BJP is
51:27concerned.
51:28His son was given a ticket from Kaiser Ganj instead of him.
51:31He went on to win that particular seat.
51:33And now, slowly but surely, you have Brijbhu Shanksharan who is coming back to active politics
51:40where UP and even the state center is concerned.
51:44in 2014.
51:45And now into win.
51:46He was following the