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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma
FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma
FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
© 2025
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04:45Christian Andersen instead and using fairy tale as a complete opposite so it's
04:51a flip of a coin like a yin and a yang you know you have a documentary and you
04:56have fantasy and I like extreme so I was like I'm gonna go from one to the other
05:02and I think working in fantasy has been a lot of fun so I decided to make push
05:08it for a few years ago but as a TV show and that became Copenhagen Cowboy
05:14which is really pusher Ford has some of the same characters and some of the
05:19same worlds but I I was no longer interested in the way I used to because
05:25also social media has kind of dominates that narrative now everything is
05:31accessible and most of it is real or at least some can be very real captured at
05:38the moment to moment and those are far more it's very effective and I can't do
05:43that but what I can do is I can manipulate it into my own version that's
05:48fantasy and that I became more interested in I I lost the lust for living in the
05:54real world and being more excited about stepping into the theatrical space the
06:02space of unreality like a stage and so therefore it's like the evolution you know
06:10I think that if directors want to go back and change their films I mean I'm sure
06:16there's a reason I don't have a need to do I've never not have creative freedom to
06:23make the film I wanted to make so there's nothing to really change I kind of look
06:28ahead so once I've done with something it's been ostracized of my body I'm no
06:33long it's no longer in me I have to kind of move on to something else
06:40it's hard to explain
06:47they're talking about you boy but you're still the same
06:55there's something inside you
07:01oh absolutely I mean I'm starting from the beginning with doing everything in 4k and
07:23I'm doing all the restorations myself so I'm doing it's all coming from me and you
07:28you can buy them directly from me at by nwr.com I'll sign your box set and send
07:35it off to you I am yeah I'm a huge fan of 4k like I love 4k I think 4k is like
07:43oh amazing because so many films can be rewatched with even better quality and and
07:51and who doesn't want that you know so it's kind of like a new layer of the new normal for me so
07:58I decided to do all my films in 4k slowly rolling them out you know
08:06I think cinema and television for that matter is has had a very tough time in the last 10
08:13years or so 10-15 years gaming social media VR canvases are exploding
08:20and they're constantly evolving because technology is allowing them to evolve
08:24movies and television TV is becoming more and more
08:28just content that you almost look at while you're doing other things and movies
08:33and movies are still that window of exclusivity of the collective experience
08:39but I think that movies also needs to reevaluate themselves
08:44I remember when we were in Cannes for Only God Forgives
08:47and I after everyone had been booing me for so long that during my stay
08:53I did say look you can be angry with me and about my film
08:58but I am from the future and I'm going to make something that's going to predict
09:03what it's going to be like if you want to make films in the future and I was right
09:08because right after Only God Forgives the industry changed because of Netflix
09:13Netflix was the game changer and it changed not so much what we're making
09:18but it's how we experienced film and content essentially how we viewed it
09:23and I think that to justify or for a movie to exist in longevity
09:29you have to see what a film can become rather than what it used to be
09:36violence is like sex
09:38it's all about the build up
09:40bang bang and then it's to the other wall
09:42now make it dirty, unique, interesting, never seen before in violence
09:46I'm not that strategic but I will say that everything is an evolution of something
09:57and there can be a tendency when something is liked that everyone wants the same same
10:07but I don't necessarily think that's true
10:09it's better to give them something else or something different
10:13or something that destroys your past in order to make something new, to transition
10:19you know obviously the two films are very different
10:22but what ties them is myself and Ryan's interaction
10:28however I find that interesting
10:30it's like taking something and turning it on its head
10:33it's taking the ultimate superhero in one movie and emasculating him in the next
10:39it's taking one movie that's very poppy and another movie that's very esoteric
10:45and that I think is what makes the world interesting
10:49is that things can become different
10:52it can evolve into other components
10:55rather than just always staying in the same repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly run out of steam in my opinion
11:02I was very happy but obviously you know a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing and screaming
11:11but then I was like that's kind of cool
11:14because then you like the sex pistols of cinema
11:17you know you're like the one everyone throws bottles at
11:20but you can't deny it existence
11:23you can't really criticize it because I did it my way
11:26the world will see it as it continues to evolve
11:30and you just have to be
11:32you have to just to be trust yourself
11:34so you never lose your vision when you have that strong reaction?
11:38no on the contrary you're like it's like energy
11:40it's like just wait for the next one
11:42I love that
11:44I'm like you I have no regrets about only God forgives
11:47I think it's a masterpiece and it is
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive
11:51is there a doctor in the house?
11:54we need to get a medic in here
11:57is there a doctor around?
11:59when you were mentioning 2001
12:02it says in Kane you forgot to add Drive
12:04we'll let that slip
12:06we won't know about Drive for another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10whether it lives or dies
12:12I'm talking about films
12:142001 was made in 1968
12:17I made this film about 4 years ago
12:194 years is a zip
12:21it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple on the asshole of humanity
12:27what was funny about talking to Billy Friedkin
12:30was that it was
12:31he had a man who had struggled a lot in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully at a young age
12:40and then gone into sorceress
12:42and you know was still traumatized by that experience
12:47after so many years
12:49and I think that was what was so sad
12:51in a way that it had such an effect on him
12:54it's a little bit like Michael Cimino doing Heaven's Gate
12:57these amazing films
12:59both Sorcerers and Heaven's Gate
13:01are probably their best films
13:04for some reason get so destroyed
13:06and then they lose sight of themselves
13:10or they lose their confidence
13:11and it affects all the other movies they make afterwards
13:14and I was like I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right
13:18you're wrong
13:19I mean I've done two shows
13:25one with Amazon
13:26one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making obviously
13:30but I don't know how much I want to continue
13:35I may want to take a break
13:37and go and make movies again
13:40I've decided to do more visual arts
13:44you know and trying to find other areas of creativity
13:50but I think it's time to go make a film again
13:53you said you work on two shows
13:54but you work on The Famous Five or something
13:56The Famous Five was a television show
13:59that I just, how do you say, executive produced or created
14:03but I had no involvement in it
14:06otherwise I just created the kind of concept and the story
14:09based on these very famous books
14:11The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books
14:14when they were young
14:15I remember my mother reading me the books
14:17so it was more like a past history thing
14:20that came up as an opportunity
14:23Well I mean if anything, if something is interesting
14:29you know why not look at it
14:30I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood
14:33met wonderful people
14:34but in the end I like my freedom
14:37that's all I really want
14:39is just to be free
14:40when you work in Hollywood
14:42there is a contract
14:43some people love that and can work within that
14:46it's maybe not so much my thing right now
14:50but who knows
14:51maybe next year I'll do a big, you know, big superhero movie
14:56that could be fun maybe
14:58I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open to anything
15:01but at the same time
15:02at the end you should just make what makes you happy
15:05it's one thing having creative control
15:07which is easier enough
15:10but it's where all the money that's invested
15:13puts a burden on you
15:15because all that money has to get, you know, recouped
15:18and then you have to make a certain type of movie
15:20you don't have the freedom to do whatever you want
15:23because you're a slave to the economics
15:26if your film costs 200 million dollars or 100 million dollars
15:29you need to make 300, 400 million dollars to break even
15:32that already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make
15:35and I don't want any conditions on me
15:39at all
15:41you have to be completely free
15:43I mean in the beginning a lot of people were talking about another drive
15:51but it was like
15:52that would be the worst idea I've ever heard of
15:55so never?
15:56never
15:57I've been very lucky to live a fun life
16:09and it has nothing to do with fame
16:13you realize very quickly
16:16it has that I've had opportunities
16:19and I've been able to work with people
16:21I've met people
16:22I've spoken with people
16:24and it's all been a lot of fun
16:27but I think when I started
16:29the idea of being seen
16:31was very essential
16:33the idea of fame
16:34and fame being an opportunity
16:36it's like an opportunity
16:37it's like a stage
16:38one thing is becoming famous
16:40the next
16:41what are you going to do with it?
16:42and obviously
16:43it's like anything
16:44it's an opportunity
16:46it's like
16:48you do not really have anything
16:49I have a lot of love
16:50we don't have a lot of love
16:51the whole time
16:52the whole time
16:53the whole time
16:54I will also
16:55I will also
16:56mmm
16:57we will be here in Bangkok
16:596 months
17:00and if he will film
17:01he will film the next film
17:02I will film the process
17:05it needs to be together
17:07when he will film
17:09at the last drive
17:11I was home
17:12with kids
17:13and it took me ten months
17:15Et c'est difficile de faire pour les autres.
17:45et le prochain jour c'est le mois d'août.
17:47Tu regardes des films ?
17:49J'ai regardé beaucoup de films quand j'étais plus jeune,
17:52mais maintenant c'est plus difficile et plus.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:57J'ai fait ma première exposition qui s'ouvre à Tokyo,
18:02et ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une exposition qui s'ouvre la semaine dernière,
18:15en Tokyo, où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:23Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33Wait !
18:38N'est-ce pas sans moi ?
18:41Non !
18:42Non !
18:43Non !
18:44Non !
18:45Non !
18:46Non !
18:47Non !
18:48Non !
18:49Et tu es aussi dans «Death Stranding 2 » ?
18:50Je suis «Heart Man »
18:52et «Heart Man » est toujours dans «Death Stranding ».
19:00Je pense que tu ne crois pas tout ce que tu lis sur Internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Tu peux nous dire quelque chose ?
19:05Je pense que tu lisais tout ce que tu lisais sur Internet.
19:07Ah, ok.
19:35On va chercher…
19:37Mais ça, c'est moi-même.
19:39Je pense que tu lisais.
19:40Moua !
19:41Mais c'est bon !
19:42Ça, c'est bon.
19:44C'est bon !
19:45C'est bon !
19:47C'est bon !
19:48C'est bon.
19:49C'est bon !
19:50C'est bon !
19:51C'est bon !
19:52C'est bon !
19:53C'est bon !
19:54Je suis prêt !
19:55C'est bon !
19:56C'est bon !
19:57C'est bon !
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