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Creator/Executive Producer Harriet Warner, Executive Producer Colin Callender and Lead Actors Alice Englert and Nicholas Denton talk to The Inside Reel about perspective, class structure and deconstruction in regards to the first season of their Starz drama series: "Dangerous Liaisons."

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00:00Sal, Sal.
00:01Sal, Sal, Sal, Sal.
00:17Sal, Sal, Sal, Sal.
00:26It's like the love for war,
00:28there's nothing between
00:30it's war it's it's very in-depth because the thing is is that she only seen by certain people
00:38and it's only when she's really truly seen by valma that it reverses back into him um could
00:45you talk about that nicholas because the thing is is that that respect and that one-upmanship
00:50to the fact that she is the nightmare but she's the most beautiful nightmare you've ever seen
00:55in a way could you talk about that and then i'll go to the reverse because it's about building that
01:00tension within it well i think when you you know what i really loved about the show is that idea of
01:06what as p what is someone willing to do if they've had everything stripped from them and so it's like
01:12what thanks were you know would valmont go to to get back what he believes is rightfully his
01:17so that kind of that strong trajectory from the get-go is so kind of poignant and it's his way
01:23of escaping that if we can go back to the trauma way of escaping that kind of pain is just to keep
01:28going headstrong but he's sideswiped by this woman of camille and he i think that kind of idea of
01:35finding this kind of safety and and this kind of tent of of safety in and amongst the chaos of his
01:41world is so new to him and so being this kind of reprieve from that outside world is so kind of
01:50confused where there's actual truth and and kind of compassion and love and also a one-upmanship that
01:56he's never experienced before it comes from a place of affection and love and and kind of delicacy
02:03it isn't the rambunction and the and the chaos that he's existed in for so long it's this other
02:08world that he's he's going oh fuck i can actually they're like in the eye of the storm
02:12they are and they're like okay for a little bit but something's gonna happen yeah
02:18what would you give to have me back
02:27everything
02:29i want to give you another chance
02:33tell me what to do but i love that what you were saying was uh because you were talking about
02:42chaos chaos and control control begets chaos and chaos begets control because everybody's so
02:48you know it can you know claustrophobic that's why the thing in the labyrinth works very well
02:54um in certain ways because it's about that chaos and control and the primal taking over can you talk
02:59about chaos versus control in the society both from the female point of view but also from the
03:05male point of view because it's completely different sure
03:07wow i wonder yeah i guess thinking about i guess control is a fairy tale and chaos is
03:25reality i don't know how we could say but can you know i think that you know in a kind of
03:34masculine patriarchal sense it's like they're it's all chaos but they've got their own kind of control
03:40out of the chaos i think that's that really kind of strange dichotomy of going all right this is
03:46chaotic and this is out this is kind of this kind of outrageous kind of reality to live in but let's try
03:52make this let's make this control feel so real let's encapsulate all this chaos and make it feel
03:57like it's ours and we own this and i think that's the power that uh the man the male kind of uh
04:03characters have in this i think i think that because you know i think because camille at least is so aware
04:11of the the chaos that she has experienced i think she feels like the only control she has over when
04:19and um when um when she can start some if that makes sense it's just like if i know that nothing i can
04:28do is truly um i was just suddenly remembering them beyond beyond my control you know the truth
04:38i think i think she's very aware of the fact that um you know every everything that she tries to do
04:46will eventually fail in some way or be one up that's how like the game moves forward is um constant
04:53pursuit and of of success and constant you know experience of failures of some variety
05:01she sort of thinks at least if i can be an agency of chaos um an agent of chaos that that harbors
05:11some control yeah at least i'm in tandem with reality but you said it really beautifully which
05:16is like we you kind of try and create control in a very uncontrollable world like it's almost like
05:22it's almost it's impossible to win this game it's impossible and and the reality that they live in at
05:29the time is it's well beyond both of them and very well beyond camille and i think that's trying
05:36to find a way to to to to live instead of just being instead of just surviving is a completely
05:43difficult it's a very difficult way so to exist but that's how we all exist and i think that's why
05:48i find the story to still resonate is that yeah we're still trying to get all the old chaos oh i don't
05:56i love it how else do you think we will have our freedom
06:01our love you don't know how to love my love for you is the only thing i am sure of
06:09beyond secrets beyond money beyond everything
06:22i did want to ask and my last question is the aspect because it's interesting because you're
06:44talking about deconstruction and deconstruction is when in the middle you find trauma and the trauma is
06:50what fuels both of these characters well a lot of the characters but both these characters the lead
06:55characters specifically but if you take that and you see camille at least this is my takeaway
07:00um especially in this adaptation is she has an anarchy of the soul no matter where things seem to be
07:07she's going to push through it and it's just going to laser through um can you talk about that anarchy
07:13she loves that chaos but it's in her soul even that one point where she does something to valmont
07:19she stops herself almost a little bit a little bit can you talk about that anarchy in her soul
07:24definitely i think from the place she starts
07:30a kind of war builds really a war for trust in so many ways i think the relationship she has with
07:40victoire her her her wonderful friend is such a key relationship in the show it's in a way the purest the
07:49truest and yet still she can't really enable these relationships to survive intact she does as you say
07:59there's this anarchy she she sabotages but also that all goes to this place of of trust she cannot
08:06ultimately leave her life in the destiny and in hands of any anybody else's um so i think that is
08:14key to her character i think valmont is the um the other half of her you know he's the the the place
08:23that still calls to her away from that destruction but she's so driven by a past that has in a way
08:32taken taken taken away the stability and even the ability to see stability um that is the character
08:43but she's in a society a very kind of patriarchal society that there isn't a clear route for women
08:49of no means to navigate she meets this extraordinary mentor um it's a brief mentorship but it is the
08:58little chink of road ahead that she follows and in a way could carve out a a great stability within it
09:07but as you say this anarchy just is so key to her she is as i say she is a revolution you know that is
09:15the character of camille and and i think it's very exciting to get to continue that that story of her
09:21because yes like a a shark you know she's just compelled to do what she does and to keep moving
09:29while she does it so i think she's a very exciting character to write and explore to get what you
09:35truly want in this city you must destroy everything and everyone that stands between you and it
09:43you have something that belongs to me your dignity you can't win against that sort of power you know how
09:52dangerous this is
09:53you

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