00:00El Economista, podcast. El podcast de deportes ha llegado.
00:08Y no tenemos un recital de resultados ni cifras económicas enlistadas y aburridas.
00:15Les presento Cien Metros Vallas con Marisol Rojas.
00:22Hola, ¿qué tal? Amigos de Cien Metros Vallas, muchas gracias por estar con nosotros en un episodio más.
00:28Tenemos a un invitado de lujo, su nombre es Alex Carrera, él está conectado en Roma.
00:35Él es una de las personas más importantes ahora en México porque él es el representante de Isaac del Toro y de Tadej Poyacar.
00:43Y lo tenemos vía distancia. Quiero agradecer a Alex, vamos a hacer esta entrevista en inglés y los vamos a apoyar con los subtítulos en la traducción.
00:52Alex es uno de los más importantes managers en el mundo del ciclo y ahora está cerca de México.
01:00Él maneja la carrera de Isaac del Toro y de Tadej Poyacar.
01:04Ambos atletas son ahora compañeros de los Emirados Unidos.
01:08Bienvenido, muy bienvenido, Alex. Gracias por tu tiempo.
01:11Gracias, gracias a todos los que nos vemos.
01:16Gracias, gracias.
01:19Gracias, gracias.
01:19Y él está conectado en Roma.
01:22Estamos en la ciudad de México.
01:23Así que gracias por tu tiempo.
01:27¿Cómo se ha cambiado la responsabilidad de un manager?
01:34¿Qué nuevos desafíos se demanda el mercado?
01:40Cada día hay un nuevo desafíos.
01:43Para mí, mi desafío cuando trabajamos con los atletas es ayudar a los atletas a tomar su sueño.
01:53En este caso, en este caso, para ganar, en el futuro o ahora, la más importante carrera del mundo.
02:01Ese es el ejemplo de la Francia de la Giro d'Italia.
02:04Es mi sueño para ayudar a todos mis atletas a tomar su sueño, por supuesto.
02:11¿Qué tipo de evaluaciones ha realizado antes de elegir una carrera de atleta?
02:20Primero, creo que debemos analizar la valoración de los atletas, cuando llegan con nosotros, el potencial y la mentalidad.
02:33Porque el carrera es un deporte muy difícil.
02:36Por ejemplo, el fútbol es un juego, pero el carrera es un deporte.
02:41Y solo el talento no es suficiente para alcanzar los resultados grandes.
02:47Necesitas trabajar todos los días muy duro, todos los días siguiendo la nutrición del equipo.
02:55Porque también necesitas comer muy bien, recuperar y empezar todos los días para la nueva aventura.
03:02Lo que significa que cuando llegamos con los atletas, analizamos muchas, muchas cosas.
03:09No solo los talentos, sino también la gran atitud de trabajar muy duro.
03:15O sea, no puedes ser un ciclista de campeón.
03:18¿Cómo podemos entender la diferencia entre un manager de fútbol y otros deportes, comparado con el trabajo que haces con los ciclistas?
03:32Todos los deportes son diferentes.
03:34Todos los deportes son diferentes.
03:35Primero, los deportes son similares como el fútbol, o el básquetbol, o el ciclo, porque son deportes de equipo.
03:44Y otros deportes son individuales, como el fútbol, o el ski, o el tennis.
03:50Son deportes individuales.
03:52Entonces, trabajas más para los propósitos privados.
03:55Pero en el caso de los deportes, necesitas, primero de todo, trabajar con el equipo y encontrar el mejor equipo para los atletas.
04:05Y el mejor equipo, muchas veces, no significa que el equipo paga más dinero,
04:11sino que el equipo paga más oportunidades para llegar a los atletas, para obtener sus grandes resultados.
04:19Y entre el ciclo y el fútbol, hay una gran diferencia.
04:24En el fútbol, los equipos son los usuarios de los atletas.
04:31En el ciclo, no.
04:33Cuando terminas tu contrato con el equipo, por ejemplo, eres libre.
04:40Entonces, no puedes vender uno de los riders a uno de los otros equipos.
04:45En el fútbol, es normal.
04:47Entonces, hay una gran diferencia.
04:49Ok.
04:50I've heard in another interview that you say you like that your athletes feel passion when they do the sport.
04:59All your represented cyclists work very hard.
05:02But, what makes Isaac different?
05:05What made you choose him?
05:08One of the first time I met Isaac, I remember very well that we go together to a supermarket.
05:21A small supermarket in the town where he lived in Europe.
05:25And he has a great, if you feel, if you see the eyes of Isaac, you see the passion.
05:34Then you are, he's the natural boy.
05:38But the boy that loves cycling.
05:40And he did, in every minute in life, he did his best to arrive the results.
05:49When we go to the supermarket, I know exactly that he checks every single product that he buys.
05:56The best products, because the food is also important.
06:00Because the nutrition is important in cycling.
06:02Not only the trainer and the talent.
06:05And when you have a passion, as today, as Isaac, or as other athletes, you have more chance to arrive to the top in the world.
06:18Do you remember the year of that visit in the supermarket?
06:24When?
06:25The year?
06:26When?
06:27The year?
06:28When?
06:29When?
06:30I remember that this supermarket is in 2000, in the beginning of 2024.
06:37In general, in January 2024.
06:43Or December 2023.
06:45I don't remember exactly when.
06:47But I remember that he checked every single product.
06:51Because he wanted to be sure that what he bought is good for him and for his career.
06:58There are small details, of course.
07:01But in the pro-career, the small details, in the end, is the big difference.
07:08And also, well, he learned about his nutrition, about his development.
07:14When he was working with Monex, Alejandro Rodriguez, CEO for Monex, he told me exactly the day that you guys were talking about Isaac.
07:25And that was in San Marino, the day when you went with Isaac to the market?
07:32Because he lives there, right?
07:34He was in San Marino, yes.
07:39Okay.
07:40So, by that time, were you already searching to guide his career?
07:48Or you still were looking if it can be a possibility?
07:53The first time that I saw Isaac, he was in video call.
07:59And it's before the Tour de l'Avenir 2023.
08:04But Isaac has already shown his talent in some races, in Romania, in Italy and so on.
08:15Then the talent of Isaac, if you know cycling, if you have experience, you can show immediately.
08:24After Tour de l'Avenir 2023, all experts in cycling understand that one young guy comes from Mexico to be a big star in the future.
08:41And in the last May, all fans see the great talents of Isaac, you know?
08:47But in this case, I am very happy that Isaac chose my agency.
08:54Because after this victory in Tour de l'Avenir 2023, he can choose every agency in the world.
09:03Because it's pretty easy to see that in the future he can be a champion.
09:12What do you think could be Isaac's long-term impact? I mean, beyond the results and outside the competition?
09:23Isaac is a little bit special. He's special for two reasons.
09:28Because behind him, there is a big country as Mexico.
09:35Then, with his results, he can help cycling to the lot in his country, first of all.
09:42And second, he has a great image because he has a nice voice.
09:46All the time he has a smile during the interview.
09:51And also, during the race, he attacks a lot.
09:56The fans love the riders' attack all the time.
10:01They try to win all the time.
10:03The fans love the fighters, as Isaac.
10:07Then, I am pretty sure that if you combine that he is a fighter, a winner rider,
10:17and the good mentality, he's from Mexico, he's a nice boy.
10:22If you combine these all things together, for sure, in the future,
10:28he's one of the most important riders in the world.
10:31All right. How does the work of a team manager fit with a manager duty?
10:41What means the question? Explain me better what you want to know.
10:46Yeah. For example, the team manager of Isaac's team, for example,
10:51or any other cyclist, they need to work with the athlete.
10:56They need to do also marketing about the team.
10:59But you also need time with the cyclists.
11:04Yeah, of course. Our job is pretty easy when the rider is so good as Isaac.
11:12But the other side is also very, very hard.
11:17My job is to solve the problem for my athletes.
11:22In this case, for Isaac.
11:24What means? If Isaac needed to solve the problem for the insurance,
11:29with the relation with the media, the relation with the team,
11:34with the private sponsor, of course, I am the guise to help him.
11:42In Mexico, it's a big country.
11:45Also, Alex Reines worked with Isaac in Mexico for his private sponsor,
11:51because we are a team together around Isaac.
11:54But who we are?
11:57We are the person that Isaac can trust to us and to him to solve the problem.
12:04Of course, the marketing or many things we need to do with our experience.
12:14Also, find the best place to live.
12:17Also, the relation with his teammates, the relation with the team.
12:23But in the end, when you manage a good athlete, for one side is easy,
12:30and for the other side is hard, because we have a responsibility.
12:35But the most important thing that I can reply to your question is,
12:40who is Alex Carrera?
12:43Alex Carrera is the guy that helps Isaac to solve the small or the big problem in this career.
12:51Because if I solve the problem, Isaac is more quiet.
12:57He can stay concentrate on the trainer, on the nutrition,
13:03and maybe have more chance to win the big race.
13:08Alright.
13:10What reasons makes you to decide to end a relationship with an athlete?
13:16Because I love my job.
13:19My job is to help the athletes.
13:22I have a lot of passion in cycling, in sport in general.
13:27And, of course, it's a business.
13:30And there are many, many things that connect this job.
13:35I decided to open my company when I was 22 years old.
13:40And I think it's one of the best decisions in my life.
13:46Great.
13:47Final question.
13:49Sometimes we find salary rankings, but are they even close to reality of the amounts?
13:57I never read these rankings because, of course, I know that I don't need to read the rankings in the newspaper and the website.
14:14For sure, cycling has changed if you compare 10 or 20 years ago.
14:22But for sure, it will change also in the future.
14:24Then I don't need to read the ranking of the salary, but sometimes I hope that what they wrote is right.
14:34But sometimes they wrote stupid things because the people love this information.
14:42And in the end, the media want also right to create some curious story.
14:48Okay, and before we go, Alex, I would like you to give a message to young athletes that can be listening and seeing this podcast.
15:01And also to Mexican companies that are thinking if supporting or not an athlete, a young athlete.
15:09What lessons can be learned from exact moment?
15:14I think that Mexico is a big, big country.
15:19There is a lot of company trust in the sport, and now they know cycling.
15:26They give the opportunity to invest in the new generation of Mexican riders because there is a lot of talents in Mexico.
15:39First of all, the number one is Isaac.
15:42And if you enjoy in this sport, you have a great opportunity to have a lot of visibility and together we can arrive in the up of the world.
15:54Great.
15:55Thank you very much, Alex, for talking to El Economista in Cien Metros Vallas podcast.
16:02We keep the communication open.
16:05And when I invite all the people that are listening and seeing this podcast to send me questions or to send me your opinions, and we will be glad to hear them.
16:15Thank you very much, Alex.
16:16Thank you.
16:17Bye.
16:18Goodbye.
16:19See you.
16:20See you.
16:24See you.
16:25See you.
