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During a Senate Commerce Committee hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) spoke about the Trump Administration's funding cuts to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
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00:00Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:02And as you mentioned, this hearing comes at an incredible time of human loss from the floods in Texas.
00:11And now we know in New Mexico and North Carolina.
00:15But I want to offer my condolences to the families who have lost loved ones in this unimaginable tragedy and to the people of Texas.
00:24We grieve along with you as a nation.
00:30Our thoughts and prayers do go to the families to ask for strength for them to deal with this incredible loss.
00:37And as you said, there is a time and a place to figure out what transpired.
00:44You know, for us in the Northwest where natural disasters, whether it's fire, flooding, earthquakes, or the big one that is someday going to hit,
00:53this issue of first responders and communication is really important to us, too.
01:01So I, too, want to thank the National Guard for their incredible work and response to this incident.
01:09I want to thank the Coast Guard men and women.
01:11I'm pretty sure we train those surfmen out on the Olympic, you know, Long Beach area of our state.
01:18And we're very proud of what they do to get those men and women ready to help do the search and rescue.
01:24But clearly, first responders did everything that they were asked to do in response to this flood.
01:32But as you said, Mr. Chairman, there will be others.
01:34So I agree that we should figure out what we can do in the future to improve our communication system,
01:41to improve the science behind the information, and to figure out how we best prepare for the future.
01:50Today, we're considering Dr. Jacobs to be the NOAA administrator,
01:54Mr. Taylor to be the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Environmental Observation and Protection,
01:59and Mr. Kumar to be the Assistant Secretary.
02:02NOAA does play an incredible, important role in preserving life and property,
02:09and obviously good data behind your weather reporting for sustainable fisheries to get food on the table,
02:16to support our domestic product.
02:21You play a critical role in safety and economic competitiveness.
02:25And so, obviously, I'm going to ask today about the cuts to NOAA and how, as a science agency,
02:34you preserve the core mission of an agency when we're cutting so much of the science and the science budget.
02:42The budget eliminates the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research R&D arm,
02:47which is critical to improving lead times and accuracy of information.
02:51NOAA's R&D is at the cutting edge of science in projects like Warn On Forecast,
02:56which will give communities more notice about tornadoes and other severe weather events
03:01by using prediction models instead of waiting to detect weather service that is already occurring.
03:07The budget proposal also eliminates NOAA's Integrated Ocean Observing System Program,
03:14the buoy system.
03:15This is a very bipartisan program that helps us, particularly in the Northwest,
03:21in detecting the potential of tsunamis, hurricane forecasts, fisheries, marine transportation.
03:30And even though the administration put out an executive order calling for growing American fisheries,
03:35fisheries, I believe that we are doing the opposite if we're not investing in the kind of stock assessments
03:42that we need to deal with fisheries management.
03:45So, while the administration seeks to slash NOAA's budget, it has also taken a sledgehammer to its workforce.
03:52Since the start of the year, NOAA's workforce has been gutted by 2,000 employees.
03:56The agency currently has over 3,000 vacant positions, most of which cannot be filled due to the hiring freeze.
04:03For example, Pendleton, Oregon, the forecast office serving central Washington,
04:08no longer has 24-7 local coverage because of their 44 percent vacancy rate.
04:13And in my opinion, that is unacceptable in the height of fire season.
04:18The hiring freeze also resulted in 160 vacancies at NOAA's research ships,
04:23resulting in 30 percent of those ships being left at the docks this summer
04:26instead of charting navigation in the Arctic, serving key weather buoys and conducting stock assessments.
04:32So, for Washington, two Pollock stock assessment surveys and one salmon survey have already been canceled.
04:39Now, what this means is that people can't fish.
04:42We don't have the science.
04:43They can't fish.
04:44We don't know.
04:45We're putting billions of dollars of economic activity at risk.
04:49So, the West Coast region of NOAA fisheries has lost so many staff
04:53that we no longer have key experts to negotiate salmon or other treaties,
04:57and entire permitting teams are gone, and local communities are begging for answers on these.
05:04So, I expect to hear how we're going to defend the science mission without the people
05:08and without the science to help deliver those essential services.
05:12I want to know what our real plan is that we're going to continue to protect our environment.
05:20Mr. Jordan, if confirmed, you will be responsible for advising the administrator on weather, water, climate, and related matters,
05:28and I hope that you will tell us today how you also plan to counter cuts to the weather program
05:33and where you stand on the R&D investment that we need to improve forecasts, such as supercomputing forecasts.
05:42Climate change is driving more intense hurricanes, more frequent severe atmospheric rivers, rain events,
05:47and is doubling the number of wildfires.
05:50According to NOAA, since 1980, we've had on average nine extreme weather events annually
05:55that have cost us over $1 billion each.
06:00So, from 1980, nine extreme events.
06:03But in the last five years, that has spiked to 23 events per year, and last year, it was 27 events.
06:11So, we can see that we're having more devastating impact and the cost to all of us.
06:18So, we're in a state of emergency that's getting worse, and we need to come up with better solutions.
06:25So, we know how to do this.
06:26In 2015, as firefighters were fighting a devastating wildfire in Okanagan County,
06:31and wind patterns changed, resulting in the loss of firefighters, we implemented new tools
06:38to help with the training of a new system that would help us get better information
06:43and get that information faster.
06:45I should also note that today, the OIG for the Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General
06:51released a report on our National Weather Service tornado forecasting system and the things that they believe
06:59the office has gotten wrong on in forecasting the shortcomings of that system and six plans for improvement.
07:07So, we'll probably ask you about that as well.
07:10So, finally, Mr. Kumar, you'd be leading the Legislative Affairs Department.
07:14Simply put, the Department's critical engagement with members of this committee is not happening at the level we need it to happen.
07:23So, I expect you will help fundamentally change that if confirmed and make sure that as members ask for information
07:30and data from the agency that they will receive it in a timely manner.
07:34So, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and again, our hearts are with you, your colleagues, Senator Cornyn, the many people of Texas,
07:43and we will work with you in whatever fashion we can to help move forward and help Texans in any way,
07:52and obviously our colleagues here on the committee from New Mexico,
07:58and our colleagues in the larger body from North Carolina.
08:03But thank you so much.
08:05Well, thank you.
08:06I appreciate that, and I want to say thank you to all my colleagues who have reached out on both sides of the aisle.
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