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*China rejects U.S. threats to impose tariffs on BRICS countries and partners
*Israel continues seizure of Palestinian land in the West Bank
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*China rejects U.S. threats to impose tariffs on BRICS countries and partners
*Israel continues seizure of Palestinian land in the West Bank
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00:00On Monday, the 17th BRICS Summit continues with a focus on the environment and global health.
00:14China responds to U.S. allegations against the BRICS and opposes any form of coercion.
00:22The Palestinian World and Settlement Resistance Commission denounced that Israeli occupation forces continue with the seizure of more Palestinian land northeast of Ramallah.
00:39Hello, welcome to From the South. I'm Luis Alberto Matos from Delezu Studios in Havana, Cuba. We begin the news.
00:52On Monday, the 17th BRICS Summit continues with a focus on the environment and global health.
01:02Monday's plenary session began with an event in the United Nations' Cup 30 climate and global health systems.
01:11During the day, pro-tempoor president of the BRICS, Luis Ignacio de Silva, warned that nihilism and unilateralism are rewarding the advances of the past and sabotaging the future of the peoples.
01:21Lula Silva also warned that global warming is occurring at a faster pace than expected.
01:27Brazilian head of state also stressed that it is urgent to recover the leading role of the World Health Organization as a legitimate forum to confront pandemics and defend the people's health.
01:37Even without the historical liabilities of the developed countries, the BRICS members have.
01:53At the World Health Organization and the World Trade Organization, we fought together for access to essential medicines and vaccines to overcome the HIV-AIDS epidemic, malaria, tuberculosis, and other problems that mainly affect the most vulnerable countries.
02:12At the Cairo and Beijing conferences three decades ago, we reaffirmed the human rights of women and girls, including sexual and reproductive health.
02:27Today, denialism and unilateralism are eroding the progress of the past and sabotaging our future.
02:39Let's go now deeper with the analysis with our next guest, Fabio Jorge, Brazilian economist and professor at the Federal University for Latin American Integration.
02:47Welcome, Fabio, to From the South.
02:51Good afternoon. Thank you for the invitation.
02:54It's a pleasure.
02:55It's a pleasure.
02:56Fabio, these two days are being packed with activities and discussions at the BRICS Summit.
03:00Yesterday, we saw the first plenaries and the first day of debate and a final declaration that was signed by all participants, by all members and partner countries.
03:08What can you tell us of that first day and what is enshrined in that final statement?
03:13Well, the summit represents an important moment in a very unstable international system.
03:20It represents an alternative to the neoliberal global order that has generated social, environmental and economic disasters.
03:31Especially with Trump's current unilateral protectionism stance, the BRICS have become very attractive to the countries in the global south.
03:43It represents a critical of the United Nations institution that no longer represents the correlation of forces in global geopolitics.
03:55For example, the group represents almost half of the world's population.
04:00It has a GDP graded there the G7.
04:04Well, in the final declaration, we have five main points.
04:10The first one, strengthening multilateralism in reforming of global governance.
04:17Second, promoting peace, security and stability in international systems.
04:23Third, deepening international economic trade and financial cooperation.
04:28Four, combating climate change and promoting sustainable, fair, inclusive development.
04:37Five, partnership for promotion of human, social and cultural development.
04:43I think it was a very important summit in the international system.
04:56Speaking about, you were referring to integration and the multi-polar world.
05:01What elements can you provide? How will it move forward? And how can it replace what has been called by different actors within BRICS?
05:09They are calling to replace that obsolete, as has been described by the Russian Foreign Minister and President of Brazil,
05:15replace that obsolete neoliberal model that has hindered the development of the people.
05:20And that is how BRICS is coming as an alternative for this. How do you see it happening?
05:26I think there are a lot of important things in this way.
05:30First of all, it's clear. We live in a hegemonic transition for the unilateral system with the United States in the leadership.
05:44Now we have other forces, especially the BRICS, defending the multilateralism system.
05:52It's very clear in this moment, it is an acceptable international system without cooperation.
06:01I think BRICS represents the possibility of the cooperation, especially in transnational issues like environmental issues,
06:10health issues and health issues. It's clear. It's impossible to combat these problems without cooperation.
06:20In this way, I think Brazil has a good player, leader in this process, especially with historical role in the promoting cooperation,
06:35especially in climate change, especially in climate change challenges, especially now.
06:40I think it's very important to economic cooperation with an unstable scenario, especially with the unilateral political of the United States.
06:53So it's very interesting. We have now new members in BRICS group representing the attractive group in an international system very unstable.
07:07We are reflecting the attractive position in this group has an alternative to the neoliberal global order, in my opinion.
07:19And as just yesterday, Sunday, the BRICS members and partners and observers were reaffirming their integration,
07:26their cohesion to work for a multiplayer role, we saw a quick reaction coming from the U.S. President Donald Trump
07:32with threats of imposing 10 percent tariffs, additional tariffs on any country that support BRICS or is partnered with BRICS.
07:40Is this a sign of concern from Trump's side that maybe they are afraid of losing their hegemonic power in the face of this growing power of BRICS?
07:52Exactly. In my opinion, this is a reaction of nations. It's losing power in the international system.
08:02But I think it's important that BRICS represents an alternative possibility with the economic order without the United States.
08:15It's clear United States is very important in the international system, especially in security issues, in economic issues, so.
08:25But in this moment with the disaster politically external in the United States, no doubt, it's important that there are alternatives like BRICS.
08:41So I think it's very important to understand it's possible international system working a little bit without the United States in this system.
08:54I think it's an important transformation in the international system in the last two decades.
09:04Thank you very much, Faulio, for your time and your inputs hearing from the south.
09:08Thank you. It was a pleasure for me.
09:12No, it was a pleasure to have you.
09:14Let's now continue. We are now taking our first break.
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09:23We're going to be right back. Stay with us.
09:25Welcome back.
09:44On Monday, Beijing responded to threats from U.S. President Donald Trump, who has promised additional 10% tariffs on all countries as support or partner with the BRICS bloc.
09:51Foreign affairs ministry spokeswoman Maonin and shared that the group formed by emerging economies is not an initiative against any country but a positive force in the international community.
10:03Maonin confirmed that they opposed the use of tariffs as a tool of pressure and coercion and reminded that trade wars have no winners.
10:10The BRICS, where multi-polarities cease to be a future aspiration and has become a reality under construction, reached important agreements this Sunday in Brazil that could renew global governance.
10:25Armed criminal groups and criminal violence have left 4,026 people dead in Haiti in the first six months of 2025.
10:33This is revealed in the report of the United Nations Integrated Office in Haiti, where it specifies that there are 376 women, 21 girls and 68 boys among the dead.
10:42According to the report, homicides have increased by 24% in just one year. The increase in the number of displaced persons is even more dramatic, tripling to 1.3 million.
10:52Miroslav Jenka, United Nations Assistant Secretary General also stated that Puerto Prince, the country's capital, is to all intents and purposes paralyzed by criminal groups and completely isolated.
11:04The report reiterates that without greater action by the international community, the total collapse of the state presence is a very real scenario.
11:19In Haiti, political and former organizations were visited by an international delegation of ALBA movements.
11:24During a week of activities that culminated on Sunday, the participants were able to have an overview of the situation in the country and to elaborate a long-term solidarity plan.
11:33A correspondent shall have full with the details.
11:37A dozen Latin American activists, members of ALBA movements, traveled to Haiti to meet in Pignan, a municipality in the north of the island, with the Haitian chapter of the organization.
11:50The main objective of the meeting was to reaffirm the commitment to solidarity between the movements in the context of the political and social crisis facing the Haitian people.
11:58It is important not only to say in our voice solidarity from our voice, it is a very practical way with the organizations here in Haiti to truly show solidarity, people to people, movement to movement, peasant to peasant, to go out together in front of imperialism at the international level.
12:19The central point of the talks that took place at the Tet Coal Agroecology Center was to understand the real reasons for the situation in the country.
12:33Behind the violence, corruption and food shortages is the same United States imperialism that oppresses all the peoples of the global south.
12:40The crisis in which we find ourselves is not only related to national actors, but also to foreign actors, imperialist and multinational interests that unite to create what is happening today.
12:52That is why we need the solidarity of the oppressed masses of other countries, of the working and peasant classes, to help us in this struggle to take it further.
12:59In addition to breaking down communication barriers and bringing a deeper understanding of the Haitian crisis to their countries, the delegates undertook the task of collectively developing a plan of concrete and permanent actions at the international level, especially in the areas of training, communication and political articulation.
13:22It is fundamental that we can think of solidarity alternatives that have to do with the defense of the sovereignty and self-determination of the Haitian people.
13:32The defense of the sovereignty and self-determination of the Haitian people.
13:35We are here today to think about just that, how we build these bridges, how we also generate a framework of denunciation through the popular and alternative media in the region, how we also add more organizations to these solidarity actions.
13:48To support the struggle of the Haitian people is also to be inspired by and learn from it.
13:58Haiti was the first country in Latin America and the Caribbean to achieve independence and abolish slavery and became an example of resistance against the hegemonic powers of the world.
14:08For me, it is impressive to observe how many of the achievements of the Bolivarian revolution at the ideological level, Haiti already had them in its consciousness of independence since 1804, since when they started the struggle from gender equality to racial issues.
14:25All this was what Haiti was developing, all this was what Haiti was developing, and that is why it has been so attacked. And that is why we cannot continue to allow the perpetuation of this action, not only neo-colonial, but colonial, of the continuation of the colony, in our continent. It is not acceptable.
14:42True exchange allows everyone to receive more than they can give. This week of dialogue, planning and visits to other places in the region was enough for each participant to leave stronger and with hope in the construction of a world of solidarity and a sovereign America.
14:59Shada Folk, from Cabo Haitiano, Haiti, for TELESUR.
15:05We are now going back live to Brazil.
15:07The Brazilian President, Luis Hernández, is offering a press conference following the second day of the 17th BRICS Summit.
15:13Let's go live to Brazil to listen to the statements.
15:17...al mayor protagonismo de Brasil e India en ese órgano, lo cual es un avance importante de todas las reuniones anteriores.
15:25No nos omitimos a los temas más urgentes de la política internacional.
15:31Adoptamos posiciones coordinadas sobre la necesidad de resoluciones definitivas para la situación de Palestina.
15:40Condenamos de forma unánime los recientes ataques militares contra Irán y los riesgos nucleares asociados.
15:49BIO tendremos bien con razón ante el ser humano.
15:53Lo agradecemos a la cooperación hacia el agosto.
15:55En como proyectos de la cooperación hacia el things preservation de los ecuadilos,
16:16under the pretext of climate concerns. The dialogue on the use local use of
16:22commerce and investment in convergence of payment methods in BRICS will
16:29continue advancing to reduce costs in commerce and international trade and
16:35invest. BRICS has once again shown the strength of this joint action to adopt
16:42as it adopted the declaration of artificial intelligence and climate
16:46financing. Our relations in climate field establishes a roadmap for the next five
16:53years and to transform our capacity to find answers and face climate change.
16:58Likewise, we treated artificial intelligence for the first time. We have
17:03a shared vision of the Global South. Our objective is to bring to the center of
17:09governance, world governance, very concrete aspects that will impact all, as
17:15is the issue of employment and access to data, always with a just competence and
17:21digital sovereignty. Likewise, we establish an alliance to eliminate diseases of
17:29social origin like tuberculosis and tropical diseases like malaria and dengue.
17:35the purpose is to combat the deep causes of these diseases such as poverty and
17:40social inclusion. Likewise, we launched the alliance of BRICS to for the
17:45restoration of degraded soils, which is in an agenda that involves different
17:50possibilities, investment to produce food, biodiesel and the restoration of the
17:58rainforest. Likewise, we reached other important results, an initiative to
18:04advancing the reform of the International Monetary Fund, and we adopted a
18:09declaration in support of a convention of the UN on the cooperation of revenues
18:16internationally. In accordance with social politics policies of this government of
18:23president Lula da Silva, we carried out a first encounter of the CEO societies of BRICS, a meeting
18:29that allowed businessmen, workers, women entrepreneurs, youth, and parliamentarians to
18:35present recommendations to leaders of BRICS. Likewise, I highlight the making of a
18:45special forum on Saturday that reunited thousands of participants. I would also like to
18:53talk about economic and commercial integration and central access of BRICS, and our work
19:00does not end after this summit, for Brazil will exercise the pro-tempered
19:06presidency of BRICS until the end of the year, and we're going to continue giving continuity to
19:11different initiatives that were made here in this summit. I want to thank the authorities of Rio de
19:18Janeiro that hosted this summit and supported us in the making of this very important encounter.
19:28Once again, I thank and I would like to say that in this occasion, the president in parallel with the
19:35summit had meetings with different leaders, bilateral meetings with several leaders that were present here
19:44on Saturday, and today President Lula met with the Prime Minister of Ethiopia, the Prime Minister of
19:51Vietnam, the President of Nigeria, the Air Prince of Abu Dhabi, the Prime Minister of China, and Cuban President.
20:01Therefore, once again, thank you very much for your attention, and I give the floor to the President, Lula da Silva.
20:19Thank you very much to all.
20:28I would like to take this opportunity to call the Ambassador Andre. Can you please? I would like
20:51that you speak three minutes about COP30 that we are going to make, because the date is getting closer
21:00for the COP, so let's take this opportunity so that you can talk a bit about COP30.
21:08Thank you very much, Mr. President.
21:12It was clear today the support of all countries to COP30 and the will, the broad will, that this
21:19Brazilian effort that comes after G20, and now BRICS, and the strengthening of multilateralism and the
21:37concentration of efforts to fight climate change. So, therefore COP30 is moving forward in this sense.
21:44We are mobilizing internationally to prepare COP30 and then we will have more information regarding
21:56how the summit will go, how the action agenda will also take place. But I think it has been impressive,
22:05the support that we have felt, and the choosing of the climate change subject was very well received.
22:14This subject, and I think this is encouraging us to prepare the COP30.
22:21Was I very short?
22:22Why is it going to be held in Belen? Tell us more about the Amazonia. Here is the press from all over the world.
22:38COP30 will take place in Belen, and the region is preparing incredibly for this summit, and I think it's going to be the best.
22:48I think that everyone is encouraged. There are some situations that are being evaluated and overcome.
22:56I asked that this podium were a bit stronger for colleagues.
23:17After the presentation of Mauro of what took place in BRICS, the day concluded,
23:35because I have no doubt that Brazil has already made the best results that the G20 had,
23:45and today Brazil carried out the most important meeting that BRICS has made,
23:51because we invited new people, important people, so that we can be convinced that BRICS has a new
24:02form of doing multilateralism and surviving the world. In BRICS, we have the conviction
24:09that we do not believe about tutelage. We do not believe in cold wars. We do not believe and we respect sovereignty. We do not want any more wars.
24:26And this is why we are discussing deeply the need to change, for change, structural change.
24:38Even the UN system so that we can believe once again in something past in the geopolitical facts of 2021
24:46and not of 1945. That world was left behind. Only those that miss that world of Nazism and fascism are the ones that are not in BRICS.
25:03In BRICS, we want to strengthen democratic processes, multilateral processes. We want peace and development and inclusive participation.
25:10This BRICS has a novelty that is the participation of business women, which is something new, and the participation of civil society represented with documents that will be read by the heads of states.
25:27If we want to create something new in the world, we have to create new paradigms of participation, and we cannot repeat the same mistakes.
25:43We do not want changes in the IMF because we do not like it. We want changes so that the IMF becomes an investment institution
25:53that attends the necessity of the poor countries. It is not to lend money and take countries to
26:07as it has happened because the model that has been imposed on several countries makes it that every time
26:13the debt is unpayable. So what we want is to create a financial system and the BRICS bank serves as a model
26:21to have a kind of financing so that we can guarantee that some countries that own money, that that debt is used as a way of investment in infrastructure,
26:34in the health sector, in the energy sector, and infrastructures. Something has to change.
26:42What cannot happen is that we continue with the same elements as always. We have a century of experience.
26:49Following the second world war, we have how many years now since the second, 80 years of experience since the second world war.
26:56There are things that were successful and there are some others that were not. Multilateralism is something
27:03that was successful and they want to destroy it. So we need to have awareness that the world has to change.
27:14Today, we are living likely after the second world war, the greatest danger of conflict among nations.
27:25We have wars everywhere and what is even more serious is that the UN Security Council that should be
27:31the paradigm to try to prevent these situations are the ones promoting it. From the war in Iraq,
27:40from the invasion of Libya, the death of Gaddafi, all the way to the Ukraine war, no one is calling for
27:52permission to the war. They take decisions and they make it. And then the UN loses credibility
27:56authority and authority to negotiate. Who negotiates? The Russia and Ukraine war, who is negotiating?
28:11There is not an institution capable of sitting at the table. The two factors that are the world to make
28:23an evaluation and a proposal. From time to time, I say this and I told some Brazilian reporters and foreigners
28:30that President Putin already knows what's going to happen. And Zelensky knows what's going to happen.
28:41What I think happens in this war, I was giving an example, is that when you go to a strike,
28:50the union leader radicalizes and says 100% or nothing or 100% or nothing. Days pass and then you realize
28:58that that 1% they don't have the bravery to go down to 90% to 80%. So I would like to know the following,
29:08what will happen in Russia and Ukraine if there is not a multilateral institution or a group of countries
29:16as we did between China and Brazil, a group of friends that say, not all the Zelensky ones,
29:23but not all the Putin ones. But we must sit and we must have equal alternatives. If there are no alternatives,
29:31it's going to be like this. It's going to end like this because we each have our own discourse to our
29:35Republicans. It's very difficult to go back on those wars. It's very difficult.
29:41When you write an article that people say is not correct, you have issues to go back on the war as
29:48well, imagining a war or a strike in the public sector. The world, we must be honest,
30:00what happens in Gaza has already happened before. It happened from the capacity of understanding.
30:09It has gone beyond the capacity of understanding of any model on the planet. To say that that is a war
30:14against Hamas. And only innocent people are dying, children and women. And where are the multilateral
30:24institutions to put an end to that? It does not exist. The UN should be coordinated, but the UN cannot
30:31coordinate because it's involved in it. So, colleagues, when I say the UN, I say because
30:44the UN has the United Nations Security Council, which is comprised by the countries that are involved in there.
30:55Most are involved in Europe and in the US. So, we need a mediator, but there is not one to create
31:08an alternative proposal, nor Israel, nor Ukraine, nor Congo, nor in Sudan. There is none. It does not exist.
31:19That is why we are vindicating a change in global governance, that African countries take part as well,
31:30from the Middle East, from Latin America, that others participate. What is the implication that India
31:40is not in the United Nations Security Council, or a country like Brazil, or Mexico, or Nigeria that has
31:47240 million inhabitants, or Ethiopia that has over 120 million, or Egypt, or South Africa. What is the
31:58explanation? None. Those that stay in the UN Security Council of 1945, they don't want to exit, and they
32:11don't want to allow others to enter. So, it grows difficult. So, BRICs that were not created to face
32:20anyone. They want to be another model, another way of doing politics, something more collaborative,
32:28that the bank is more concerned in helping developing countries to develop, to help the poorest
32:37country. That in the issue of climate change, we have awareness, as it was proven today in BRICs,
32:43that everyone is aware of the issue of climate change, and that it is something serious.
32:52So, things are happening, and we are not controlling change.
32:58We are not controlling anything. So, what we need to do is to take care.
33:05That's why we must take care of the ocean, the rainforest, the air that we breathe.
33:14It's not something radical. It has nothing to do with environmentalists, or universities,
33:20students. No. We are people, we are people that believe in science, and this is what it is about.
33:29The world can go through a catastrophe as the one that took place in South Uganda, here in Texas,
33:35in the United States, just a few days ago. Things like catastrophe like this can happen.
33:40Therefore, BRICs is a model, a new model, something new. Something that we are being treated carefully.
33:50It's nothing that is closed up. It's not a privileged club. It's a junction of countries that want to create
33:58other ways of organizing the world. From the economic development of human relations perspectives,
34:10something must be done. Including the issue of artificial intelligence. So, it's necessary for BRICs to
34:20create a system of discussion, so that everyone can have access to artificial intelligence. It
34:26cannot be something to be used to dominate. Of half a dozen of companies that will control data
34:32banks of the world. When the truth, the state, has to assume that responsibility of guaranteeing
34:41that data banks are not used to create words and to tell lies, to tell fake information. But what
34:52is at stake here? That is why I believe that BRICs is being an issue for some.
34:58What was the world before BRICs?
35:07Something important that we must create is the conditions that every year we go to the U.S.
35:16National Assembly and every president makes their statements and they go and no one listens to each
35:22other. Everyone speaks and don't listen. It's like it was a market of ideology. People buy and sell what
35:33they want without a commitment. So, it's necessary that the U.N. has a conference to solve these issues,
35:39the wars, to spend a week to discuss the issue of wars and what to do to end them.
35:47What will we do with the issue of climate change? Science is teaching us, if we don't take this decision,
35:58who's going to make it? Who's going to demand? If we don't have an institution, a governability,
36:07governance institution, with greater representation and seriousness, we are entering a system,
36:16very destructive system, of the way that relations among states works, that it doesn't benefit anyone.
36:26So, it seems to me that BRICs can be that alternative that humanity needs to do something new.
36:37Sincerely, I believe that we must invite countries because we are 10 from G20 in BRICs.
36:49It's only to invite the other 10s to come to BRICs to discuss these issues.
36:58We don't need to have G7 or G20. We must do something that we're all a part of,
37:04and it can be the UN, the great center of debates, of global issues.
37:13So all know that it's not that. That's why Brazil for a time is vindicating the right to participate.
37:21I'm very glad with this meeting, and I'm very glad with the role that Brazil has taken in this,
37:29because we did the G20 at the end of last year. We are doing now BRICs, and we are going to do
37:37COP30 in the future at the end of this year. So these are three important events.
37:44So in these three events, Brazil wants to create a new paradigm of acting in COP30 in Brazil.
37:51We are going to have to discuss something very serious. Leaders of the world believe what science
37:59are saying about climate. It is true. What science has shown us that climate change are concrete and
38:10irreversible if we don't change our way of acting. If we believe that it is like that, we must take
38:17action. We cannot just sit and wait for the owners of some ships to go out of the country. And some
38:29might do it and live abroad, but there are many millions of human beings that don't have how to do
38:36it. So it is in our hands. Brazil has its commitments. There are countries in BRICs that are highly committed.
38:45I want to remind that in 2009 in China was being treated as a bandit that was contaminated the world.
38:59Remember, I was there.
39:06Mauro was very young back then, so he was not there. But in that meeting, China was being
39:11was being vilified. France, United States, everyone wanted to punish China. We rejected to be part of
39:21that, saying that industrialized countries that had contaminated the world way more than China has
39:33paid nothing. So what we want them is for them to pay this. Today, possibly, China has the best model of
39:45country that has faced the issue of climate change. It is the energy transition, the faster energy transition,
39:54and it is trying to make that the economy effectively is an economy
39:58that is going to be developed with a low carbon footprint, something that should be done for many
40:05rich countries. And this is what we are dealing here. And we want to make, we are going to debate
40:11from here on now. It is important to say that what has been decided here is that we don't want to
40:18continue to continue living in a world like the one that we have currently. It is necessary to change
40:25relations of the people's health, the behavior that has to do with the development model. It is necessary
40:35to have more financing, and we must change the financing model. And also, we need to build peace in
40:43the world. Those are the most sacred issues. So I'm very happy. It has been a very strong, what Brazil
40:54has shown, that has competence to articulate. And this, I conclude here, very thankful.
41:02For one side, I'm saddened because Corinthian was not invited for the World Cup. If he had been invited,
41:10would be in the final. But I'm a bit saddened by that. But my joy is that BRICS are doing, are being
41:18champions of the world in terms of climate policies and artificial intelligence, development policies,
41:26and participation of society in debate. Having said that, I'm ready to listen to your questions.
41:40Let's see if we have issues with the sound. Sometimes the echo doesn't allow me to listen. I'm going to check the sound.
42:10Let's see if you hear better.
42:32We are speaking Portuguese. Well, I'm going to listen to a Portuguese.
42:34Yesterday on social media, President Trump said that he was going to impose additional
42:47tariffs of 10%, a quote, any country that aligns with anti-U.S. policies of BRICS.
42:56And my quote here, what do you think of these statements of the U.S. President?
43:00Honestly, I don't believe that I should comment because I don't think there is something serious
43:13nor responsible that a president of a country the size of the United States threatens the
43:22world through Internet.
43:25It's not something that is right.
43:32He must know that the world has changed.
43:38We don't want an emperor.
43:41We are sovereign nations.
43:42If he believes that he can impose tariffs, other countries have also the right to do
43:50it.
43:53The law of reciprocity exists.
43:59I think it's very ill-advised and irresponsible that a president be threatening other countries
44:08through social media.
44:10Sincerally, I think there are other spaces for the president of a country of the size of
44:16the United States to speak with other countries.
44:20They have to learn that respect is very important, that we like to give and we like to receive.
44:32And it's very important that people read the significance of the word sovereignty.
44:39Every country is owner of itself.
44:54Good afternoon, President Trump spoke of supporting former President Bolsonaro, saying that he is
45:08following that he is being the victim of a witch hunt.
45:17Is there diplomatic measures?
45:21Is Brazil going to do something?
45:22What do you think of that situation?
45:26I won't comment much on that either.
45:30The issue of Trump and Bolsonaro, I have more important things to comment on than that.
45:37This country has laws, rules, and an owner, which is the people of Brazil.
45:50So take care of your life and not ours.
45:56Mind your own business.
46:00Mind your own business.
46:01Individuals from last year.
46:02The New York Times.
46:03Good afternoon, Mr. President.
46:06Good afternoon, Mr. President.
46:07My question has to do with the tariff threats.
46:23Because in this group that just carried out this meeting, there are countries that are
46:27negotiating right now, trying to reach some kind of agreement with the United States and
46:34try to escape the imposition of harsh tariffs.
46:41I would like to know if these threats made by the US President Trump affect in a way
46:47the dynamic of the group in this encounter.
46:52And it threatens the unity of the group.
47:01I just learned about this because you asked.
47:04In the meetings of BRICS, no one talked about this.
47:16We didn't give any importance to that subject.
47:18I would like to know if discussions have moved forward for the new version in local currencies
47:33for trade to reduce the weight of dollars in relations among BRICS members for the size
47:47and difference in the economies that make up the block.
47:54Is this a challenge?
47:56And we also want to ask about Iran.
48:04Iran was in this agreement in relation with the two states.
48:08It is an issue that was overcome by the 16 meetings before.
48:13So how are these being addressed in this new challenge as a country that has this misunderstanding?
48:27With relations with Iran's position, no one is going to ask Iran to change position.
48:37And the position of Iran in the logic of other countries is an issue of Iran.
48:44Since it is close over there in the heat of the dispute, Iran can think, but we continue to believe
48:51that it is necessary to create the two states and that they live in harmony without the issue
49:02of one country going over another.
49:07So we are coming in that sense.
49:09The other question?
49:17Regarding investment, well, if you remember in 2004, we made that with Argentina.
49:27In 2004, we approved the commerce between Brazil and Argentina in our local currencies.
49:40And central banks, from time to time, they gather and they can establish the liquidity of our relations.
49:54In the case of Brazil and Argentina, there was a mistake that we did optional.
50:06It is very difficult to make people change to what they are already accustomed to do for decades.
50:11I think that we must find a way in the world so that our trade relations do not go through the dollar.
50:24When it is with the US, of course, we use the dollar.
50:27But when it is with Argentina, it is not necessary to go through the dollar.
50:30With other countries in Europe, we discussed in Europe, no one determined that the dollar is the standard currency.
50:44In what form was this determined?
50:46And obviously, we have all the responsibility to do this very carefully.
50:52Our central banks have to discuss this with central banks of other countries.
50:59But it is something that has no way back.
51:04I say this again.
51:06This is going to happen little by little until that is something that has been fully consolidated.
51:11Good afternoon, President.
51:22The declaration, the final declaration of the leaders talks about justice.
51:26Constitution justice is something that is very important for BRICS and the Global South.
51:33How can this importance influence the internal agenda of Brazil now that commerce is discussing to tax the rich and the imposition of rents?
51:52I am not taking part in any of those actions.
51:57So we sent a proposal to Congress.
52:00Congress determined to do something, in my opinion, that is completely anti-constitutional.
52:10Unconstitutional because the decree is a priority of the government, of the executive.
52:16It was a proposal that we took through the justice system.
52:28I have not read still the decision of the Maestro Alexandre de Moraes because I was here in BRICS.
52:35But we have, you know, for the ministers that are different from the decision of Alexandre de Moraes.
52:41For example, a decision of Maestro Gilmar that approved the tax, also what was approved in the Bolsonaro government.
52:58When I arrive in Brasilia tomorrow, I will receive the Prime Minister Moria as head of state tomorrow.
53:06And on Wednesday, I will welcome the Indonesia president.
53:11From there, I will talk with the institutions to cede to this issue.
53:20It's something simple. It's not something out of the ordinary.
53:24There is a difference, a political difference that is inherent to democracy.
53:30And we're going to solve these issues.
53:42Thank you very much.
53:44Good afternoon, Mr. President.
53:45I would like to ask the importance of Latin America in the BRICS block that has Brazil as a permanent representative.
53:55And also about the rejection of Argentina that Venezuela be vetted.
54:00What is the next step now if there is an intention to continue voting the block in general?
54:07Or at least in another mechanism like in the business forum of women or civil society, I would like to know about this.
54:20Thank you very much.
54:22Well, for example, BRICS, I could tell you that it's a metamorphosis, a walking metamorphosis.
54:40It's not something that is already made.
54:45It's a child that is growing.
54:48We are learning.
54:50We are trying not to repeat the mistakes of the others.
54:56We are trying to make something new.
54:58Therefore, I'm very calm with what is happening right now in BRICS.
55:04I think that BRICS is the novelty that came up in the world where geopolitics was determined by half a dozen countries considered rich.
55:23If we see the absurd that the world is, we see at the IMF, although BRICS represents half of the world GDP,
55:39GDP has only 18% of representation in the IMF.
55:46I remember when we were hosting the Olympic Games, China had a delegate and Switzerland had five.
55:58Italy had five.
56:03So BRICS country took the multilateral decisions and we left at the door, leaving from favors.
56:16What we want is to build a BRICS in which relations are felt and that all participate in decision-making
56:24and that the decision is always made from the most democratic possible way.
56:30So I'm convinced that we are creating the only noble thing that has come up in the world.
56:41Something that comes from us, not from up to down, but from down to up.
56:47And we are lucky to have important countries like China, India, Indonesia, Brazil, South Africa, and others that are coming in.
57:03We don't have our doors closed.
57:06Whoever says that wants to join, we will evaluate.
57:10And once we do it, we will make an invitation.
57:15That's what it is about.
57:17Thank you very much.
57:23Now, all of us are Fluminense now.
57:25So greetings to all of you.
57:27Okay.
57:28I'll be back.
57:40Mr. Alberto.
57:41I'll be back.
57:42I'll be back.
57:43I'll be back.
57:44I'll be back.
57:47I'll be back.
57:50You
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