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'When Do You Expect The Final Vote To Be And Will It Pass?': Britt Pressed Over Big Beautiful Bill
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During an Appearance on CNN's "State of the Union", Sen. Katie Britt (R-AL) spoke to Jake Tapper about the Senate version of the "Big, Beautiful Bill," after it cleared its first vote in the Senate.
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Mike Johnson said about 85% of this bill is the House bill. We have been working on this, Jake,
00:05
since September, tirelessly thinking about what we would do when we took control. We've had over
00:11
50, 51 meetings about this. These different provisions that have been put out, as they've
00:16
been put out, we've been reading, we've been talking, we've been figuring out how we can
00:19
make them best for the American people, because at the end of the day, we know we have to deliver
00:23
results. President Trump ran on this. He said we are going to change America for the better.
00:28
We're going to make sure that hardworking people can keep more of their money. We're going to make
00:32
sure that we have secure borders, not just now, but for generations to come. We're going to make
00:36
sure that we have a strong national defense so that our warfighter is the best trained, equipped,
00:40
and ready across the planet. We're going to unleash American energy, and we're going to make sure that
00:44
people who have been unseen are seen. We want to make sure that these programs are available for
00:50
the people who need them, and we want to make sure that people who are working know that we see them
00:53
and that they have a greater opportunity to achieve the American dream, and that's what this bill does.
00:57
So this bill, when do you expect the final vote to be, and will it pass?
01:01
Yeah, so right now, obviously, you see Senator Schumer having the entire bill read,
01:06
so clerks actually have to do that for the people who are watching this, so they're doing that all
01:09
through the night, and then they'll be doing that probably for, I think they're about halfway
01:13
through now, so we're looking if current pace continues, probably finishing about 3 o'clock.
01:19
After that, Jake, we will move into debate. Democrats will have 10 hours. Republicans will have 10 if
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they so choose. I would assume Democrats take all 10 of their hours. Republicans may take a few
01:28
to continue to make the case for this great piece of legislation, and then after that, we'll start
01:35
voting. So I will actually be in the chair tonight. I am signed up between 11 p.m. and 1 a.m.,
01:42
so if anyone is bored or needs an opportunity to put themselves to sleep, C-SPAN 2. But I'd imagine
01:48
if it currently tracks, that's likely when we'll start voting on amendments, and amendments will
01:52
come from both sides, Jake, and actually, there is no limit to how many people can bring, so I think
01:57
you'll see some fruitful debate on the floor, and we'll see what we ultimately end up with.
02:02
Probably a vote on Monday, you think?
02:03
I would think so.
02:04
Right. So there is some criticism of what's in this bill from Republicans, too, not just from
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Democrats. As you know, Alaska Senator Murkowski only voted to proceed with debate after Senate
02:16
leaders exempted Alaska from key Medicaid and food stamp provisions in the bill. North Carolina's Tom
02:23
Tillis voted no because he said he's worried about the Medicaid provision adjustments, cuts will cost
02:28
his state tens of billions of dollars. Missouri's Josh Hawley voted for it, but is trying to
02:34
delay some of the Medicaid provisions, and he says that the GOP, quote, can't be cutting
02:39
health care for working people and for poor people in order to constantly give special
02:43
tax treatment to corporations. That's a lot of pushback from within your own party.
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Look, I would absolutely agree with that, and that's exactly what we're trying to achieve.
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We want hardworking Americans to keep more of their taxpayer dollars, and we also want to make
02:57
sure that these programs are alive and well for the people that they were intended for.
03:00
I mean, if you think about it, Jake, the entitlement spending in this nation is absolutely out of
03:05
control. You can rewind back to the 1960s when actual mandatory spending, which is what these
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entitlements are, only made up about a third of federal spending. Now, if you take that plus the
03:16
interest on our debt, it's about 73 percent of what we spend. We are spending at a rate that we cannot
03:22
continue, and ultimately that means that these programs would one day be insolvent for the very
03:27
people that need them. We're trying to make structural reforms that make these programs
03:31
stronger and make them be able to actually last and be there for the people who need that
03:37
assistance. We want these to be, we want them to be safety nets, not hammocks that people stay in,
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but getting people on their feet so that they can achieve the American dream. That's what they
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were intended for, and, Jake, that's what we have an obligation to do is preserve them for the very
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people who they were meant to serve.
03:52
Let's talk about them in terms of your constituents, because there are about 760,000 Alabamans who rely
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on Medicaid. The bill will also cut federal funding for food stamps. It will require states to kick in
04:02
more and shift a lot of that cost to Alabama, and that's more than 750,000 Alabamans who rely on
04:09
what we're going to call food stamps, including 330,000 children. So are you guaranteeing that these
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changes that you were voting for Monday, presumably, will not hurt recipients in Alabama of Medicaid,
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of food stamps or SNAP for those who are citizens and for those who truly need it and deserve it?
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Absolutely. So when you look at Medicaid, children, obviously, we have the Children's Health
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Insurance Program. So children are absolutely not touched by this. Same thing when it comes to SNAP
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benefits. So we've made sure that that is taken off the table. What you're talking about is
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abled-bodied, working-aged Americans without dependents at home, having them work, train,
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volunteer in some capacity 20 hours a week in order to receive those government benefits.
04:58
This goes back to Bill Clinton era politics. When you know that being a part of something bigger than
05:04
yourselves, helping to contribute is ultimately what we need to do. And it's actually the American
05:08
people agree with us on this. But when you look at what's happening in Alabama specifically,
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you know, you think about what you mentioned with regards to SNAP. What we're doing on that
05:18
is ensuring that states have some skin in the game. If you have an error rate that is down below 6%,
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which Alabama is about a percentage point, a little bit over that, above that, we will have time,
05:29
we have several years to make sure that we get that percentage point down. And I have every faith and
05:33
belief that we will. We've got to make sure that these overpayments, underpayments that are happening,
05:37
we've seen it in our own state where people's benefits are being stolen from other states,
05:42
that that stuff stops. If states, obviously, under the Biden administration, we stopped that
05:47
accountability during for the SNAP program, reinstituting it and ensuring that states have
05:53
some skin in the game will ultimately help us be able to deliver these resources and services that
05:57
these people so desperately need. Yeah, I mean, I've heard your fellow Senator Tuberville talk about he's
06:01
worried that your state can't afford it, your state can't afford to pick up the slack.
06:05
What we can afford to do is get it right. And so if you think about moving that percentage rate down,
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right now, states have no incentive to actually get it right, to do the numbers, to check them.
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And if you think about that, nobody across the country wants a state to be able to freeload.
06:20
You ultimately have some states that have over a high over a 60% error rate in this. We've got to get
06:26
it right because we have to preserve these programs. If you go back to this entitlement spending,
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we want it to be there for the people who need it most. The rate in which we're spending now,
06:35
there's no way that it will be. And so we're ensuring that states have some skin in the game
06:39
and there's some accountability for them actually making sure that those payments go to the people
06:43
who need them.
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