00:00Dr. Kornbluth, at MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct
00:08or rules regarding bullying and harassment, yes or no?
00:12If targeted at individuals, not making public statements.
00:16Yes or no?
00:18Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?
00:21I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.
00:25But you've heard chants for intifada?
00:26I've heard chants, which can be anti-Semitic depending on the context,
00:32when calling for the elimination of the Jewish people.
00:35So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules?
00:40That would be investigated as harassment, if pervasive and severe.
00:46Ms. McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct, yes or no?
00:56If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment, yes.
01:02I am asking, specifically calling for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment?
01:11If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.
01:15So the answer is yes.
01:16It is a context-dependent decision, Congresswoman.
01:19It's a context-dependent decision.
01:21That's your testimony today.
01:22Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.
01:26That is not bullying or harassment.
01:29This is the easiest question to answer, yes, Ms. McGill.
01:35So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?
01:38If it is, if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment, yes.
01:45Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?
01:49The speech is not harassment?
01:51This is unacceptable, Ms. McGill.
01:53I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.
01:58Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment, yes or no?
02:09It can be harassment.
02:10The answer is yes.
02:13And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?
02:22It can be, depending on the context.
02:25What's the context?
02:27Targeted as an individual.
02:29Targeted at an individual.
02:30It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.
02:34Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
02:37Do you understand that dehumanization is part of anti-Semitism?
02:43I will ask you one more time.
02:46Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?
02:54Anti-Semitic rhetoric.
02:55And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?
02:57Anti-Semitic rhetoric, when it crosses into conduct, that amounts to bullying, harassment, intimidation.
03:04That is actionable conduct, and we do take action.
03:09So, the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard's code of conduct, correct?
03:18Again, it depends on the context.
03:21It does not depend on the context.
03:23The answer is yes, and this is why you should resign.
03:26These are unacceptable answers across the board.
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03:47punto-nya
03:49Sometimes, just request your father's rights.
03:49Therefore, the love to pin it overthsect or if you wait for somebody to object,
03:54until you wait for somebody to work,
03:55you agree.
03:55It如果 decision works without those choices,
03:56and then it does not depend on the sentence.
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