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Inflation is going to get worse
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6/27/2025
Gene Goldman, Chief Investment Officer at Cetera, joins TheStreet to explain why inflation isn’t getting better any time soon.
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So first, I want to get your reaction to the latest inflation data basically came in line
00:05
with expectations, although core inflation a little hotter than expected. What's the big
00:09
takeaway there? Yeah, so first of all, core PCE, the Fed's preferred measure of inflation,
00:13
as we all know, came in hotter than expected. It's the first time it's risen since February
00:18
of this year. I think it's an important number, whether it's up a little bit or a lot of it.
00:22
I don't think we weren't too worried because we know inflation is coming. I think what really
00:26
worried me more, whereas personal income and personal spending actually deteriorated. And
00:31
that suggests that there's more pressure on the economy. And what you and I have talked
00:34
about before is that the pressure on the economy suggests the Fed should cut rates, but inflation,
00:39
the Fed can't cut rates. So they're in this whole spectrum where they're trying to balance
00:44
both sides. Of course, it's their dual mandate, but they're willing to sacrifice the economy
00:48
in order to fight off inflation. But the inflation number was stronger than expected, and we've
00:52
been saying this. The one thing you and I talked about before is that tariffs are deflationary
00:57
at first because they impact economic growth, they're demand destruction, but then they also
01:02
put pressure on economically sensitive commodities like energy, oil, like copper. So it's always
01:09
deflationary at first. We're going to start seeing the numbers in July. I definitely believe
01:13
we will. And you're already seeing inflation numbers pick up in PMIs and flash readings from
01:20
manufacturing. Like even earlier this week, we saw PMI prices came in well above expectations,
01:26
and 70% of companies said they are raising prices, pushing them out to consumers. And
01:31
as another note, CFO study came out yesterday, two days ago from the Fed. And if you read between
01:36
the data, one of the Fed's special questions was about tariffs. And 41% of CFO said they're
01:42
raising prices, passing on costs to consumers. That's inflation. Inflation is going. In that environment,
01:47
as I've said to you before, the Fed can't cut rates as much as they said it would.
01:51
So the takeaway is that inflation is going to get worse.
01:55
Yeah, that's my opinion. It will get worse.
01:56
So those hopes that the Fed is going to cut rates as soon as July are off the table now?
02:02
Yeah. I mean, I think even like even Powell's press conference at the last Fed meeting,
02:06
he said, we want to see more summer data to gauge the impact of inflation. That just says nothing in
02:12
July. On the other hand, you have like Waller and Bowman, everyone coming out and saying
02:16
they should cut rates in July. I don't think that's the case. They can't cut rates. They
02:20
won't have enough data points at this point to actually make that.
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